>>64084009 (OP)
Singapore's f16 is now obsolete. With f15ex coming for Indonesia, Singapore's f15 is also obsolete. Grim. Indonesia is about to have the largest and most advanced air force in south east asia. Singapore is finished.
>>64084024
Not to mention Korean jets too that has stealth. We should ditch Singapore as ally for Indonesia. Singapore is compromised by the CCP anyways. Lots of Aussies are pissed about the US selling 4 f-35s to singspore, leaking state secrets to china.
>>64084067
It's related to Bharat, Czechia, and Magyarski.
The United Nations of English Disambiguation.
The lands of Gobbley Feast Bird, Feather Injuns, Bank Note Republic, and Hungry-Hungry Hippos.
>>64084029
The F-35, has already been compromised:
>Americans decided to sell F-35 to Singapore. >Doesn't realize that Singapore is another Communist China province. >Singapore allowed PLAAF 'technician' to inspect the F-35 in the name of Chinese brotherhood and supremacy >Just a year later F-35 got surpassed by advanced Shenyang FC-31 version.
I laughed hard when I saw news that the US is going to sell F-35s to Singapore. The moment those jets land in Singapore there is going to be an army of Chinese spies ready to dig into whatever areas they haven't stolen already. Many seething Australians on /k/ have already been sounding the alarm since the US decided to sell the F-35 to Singapore as they believe it compromises Australia's air defense to China. While the US can afford to replace the F-35 with something new in 20 years Australians are going to be stuck with them for at least 50. >>64084032
>>64084024
Indonesia also looking to buy M-346FA from Italy. This will give them a fleet consisting of: >F-16 >Su-30 >FA-50 >Rafale >KAAN >F-15EX >KF-21 >M-346
>>64084009 (OP)
Muslims buying weapons from turkey should trun out with hilarious results. Turkey has exactly zero avionics pedegree beyond some glorified model planes in FPV
The State Secrets to China bot forgot that China has neither the material science nor quality control nor even ability to intuit any part of an F-35 but the wheel.
So China can fucking basically have one while we watch their insect rage failing to copy it.
I work in military logistics in frogland and also worked in Indonesia to grab geological stuff so I have a modicum of experience with Indonesian state and private sector.
This is logistically unfeasible for the Indonesian state to maintain this stuff, they can only get it with full technical and personal support from the producing states, clearly
>>64085565
as a dutchman i just went to tenerife and i saluted the memorial they have at the northern airport there.
god bless you, we gaan man, may you crash into airplanes in heaven now.
>>64086044
Indonesia currently has >Brazilian Embraer EMB 314's >British Hawk 200s >South Korean T-50s >Russian SU-27 and SU-30s
and >American F-16s
In active use
They also have >French Rafales >South Korean KF-21s
And now >Turkish KAAN's
At least as per wiki, i think the South koreans kicked them out of KF-21 after they tried to steal shit. Nothing about buying from China in general.
>>64085594
It is way too behind the schedule but I'm pretty sure it's in production now. It entered production in the last year I think. So probably something like 10 has been produced.
>>64085594
shit got delayed for 10+ years because Germany decided to not provide engine. Then Turkey said, fuck it, we are going to build our own engines.
If rumors are true, first batch is going to be delivered by the end of this month.
Good thing is, now Turkey has a diesel engine family for MBTs, SPGs and IFVs. These will be sold without any third-party restrictions.
>>64086403 >They also have >>French Rafales >>South Korean KF-21s
They do not. No contracts have been signed to acquire either of those fighters. Indonesia actually backed out of acquiring the Rafale after Pakistan managed to shoot down three of them a while ago.
>>64086878
I don't get your reference, and i don't have much knowledge of chinese tank engines.
I believe it's crucial for a country to design and manufacture its own engines. Tank engine development has now diverged, with many efforts shifting toward diesel engines for marine vessels and trains.
>>64086991 >Turkish tanks rolling with Turkish engines
Not happening in your lifetime >Turkish boats sailing with Turkish engines
Not happening in your lifetime >Turkish planes flying with Turkish engines
Not happening in your lifetime
Maybe we'll live to see Turkish civil war in our age.
>>64087048 >>Turkish boats sailing with Turkish engines >Not happening in your lifetime
Hey, they make great money laundering boats ive been told. Dunno about the engines tho
>>64087097 >Meanwhile Turkish-made 1500 hp engine already installed on Altay MBT.
Ah, the mighty Batu that has been hyped for over a decade now with zero endurance tests and a few media exposure aimed at gaining public popularity by Erdog. Would be actually hilarious to see them turning to Korean in the end kek.
>>64087146
To your dismay and humiliation, it's not BATU only. They have built an engine family for armored vehicles now. Powering everything from MBTs to Tank Movers. Same engines were also built in marine standards and installed in FACs and USVs as well.
>>64087097 >And TEI jet engines and turboshafts are being commissioned in drones and helicopters >>64087178 >They have built an engine family for armored vehicles now.
Yeah, but how many of them actually seen moving? Also, you need to localize the transmission which is much more complicated than the engine.
>>64087193
They have already delivered hundreds of APCs, MRAPs, Tank movers and various vehicles running on that indigenous diesel engine family.
For 1200 HP and 1500 HP versions these will start rolling along with delivered SPGs and MBTs. 30 August is the victory day in Turkey so it's very likely that new stuff will be delivered to land forces
Tank propulsion is already a done deal. Next step will be diesels for submarines.
>>64087220 >They have already delivered hundreds of APCs, MRAPs, Tank movers and various vehicles running on that indigenous diesel engine family.
Kek, none of them are powered by domestic engines. >For 1200 HP and 1500 HP versions these will start rolling along with delivered SPGs and MBTs.
Yeah, if everything works out flawlessly. >Tank propulsion is already a done deal
Then why are they hurriedly pushing for another deal with the Korean manufacturer?
>>64087220
I find this hilarious, this thing is entirely designed and built in Turkey from ground up, from tires to the engine. And it's delivered to the armed forces.
Meanwhile, Greece still struggles to coordinate a joint production program for a basic utility truck and can't update their Steyr military vehicles that are over 60 years old. No production. No purchase.
>>64087321
Maybe, Erbakan-chan had a dream. >A dream of total greek rape with domestic engines and hardware
I can see her on the visage of the Aegean. Tied up on the mast of the boat, Barefoot and probably pregnant. Ideal greek female barring the bavarian boyfriend desu.
>>64087368
Erbakan's dream of thousands of Turkish armored vehicles with local engines comes true. But raping Greeks won't likely happen as they general behave ok-ish
>>64087387 >100 domestically produced tactical wheeled armored vehicles were delivered to the Turkish Land Forces Command and the Gendarmerie General Command.
>As BMC, TΓΌrkiye's leading military vehicle manufacturer, we have delivered 100 domestically produced tactical wheeled armored vehicles, designed and manufactured by Turkish engineers, to the Turkish Land Forces Command and the Gendarmerie General Command.
Have you forgotten how to even speak your own language?
>>64087411 >Have you forgotten how to even speak your own language?
Not him, but I just want you to know how retarded you look saying this when you're reading a google translate version of the article.
>>64087424 >Not him, but I just want you to know how retarded you look saying this when you're reading a google translate version of the article.
I wasn't. I translated it using grok.
>>64087464 >TUNA engine >The 8.4-litre engine produces 400 horsepower and 1,600 NM torque.
Kek, that's pretty mediocre though. Also, why would the manufacturer offer Cummins engines on its website if it were that good?
>>64087503
The website literally shows 2 vehicles and their gross weight, they're even say their engine is for a 20T vehicle instead of 23-24T. I don't see your point. The Kirpi family has been in service for like +10 years.
>>64087503
You are looking at the old version (Kirpi instead of Kirpi II) and the indicated HP for Cummins engine is 375 PS. Tuna engine is 400 HP and Azra engine is 600 HP. See >64087220
>NTA >https://www.bmc.com.tr/kurumsal/basin-bulteni/bmc-ilk-seri-uretim-yerli-ve-milli-motorlu-taktik-tekerlekli-zirhli-araclari-turk-silahli-kuvvetlerine-teslim-etti >10 Kirpi IIs with local engines >90 Vuran vehicles with local engines
they have put the Vuran IIs with the local engines on the website and not the Kirpi IIs with the local engines.
Here's the Vuran: >https://www.bmc.com.tr/savunma-sanayi/vuran/teknik-ozellikler
Here's the specs of the engine >BMC Power I4 Tuna(Danube not fish) >380 PS (280 kW) @ 2100 rpm
The article and their website contradict each other
It might be a production issue/ them wanting to advertise Vurans instead since there are 10 kirpi IIs with the local engine, maybe it doesn't warrant updating a new category on the website for them
Or it's a conspiracy and the 10 Kirpi IIs are powered by the tombs of ittihadists a la Warhammer dreadnoughts as to be both local and be in spec for the Kirpi series while deterring BMC from updating their website as to not anger the ghost of Enver pasha by stealing credit
>>64087403 >The likely contender for that rape is israelis
God I fucking hope so. I would unironically love Turkey and start calling the Turkeii or whatever retarded shit they want me to call their country if they would just bomb Israel.
We desperately need to give every country its own great firewall, literally any nation is mentioned these days and someones freaking out spewing schizobabble about how some third world place no one cares about is way better. We could get news Uzbekistan and Schlongbongia had a minor border dispute and some Schlongbongian would be banging pot lids together declaring their purchasing of Mig-21s makes them a super strong regional power and all Uzbeks should hang.
>>64087048 >eurocucks in charge of surviving in trakia >russians in charge of surviving in trabzon and anatolian side of istanbul >chinks in charge of not getting scammed by kurds
>>64089290
every shithole dweller needs to be banned from the internet (except me)
>>64087048 >Before the Karabakh war >People fantasize about Bulgaria+Greece, Russia and Armenia invading Turkey and retaking Constantinople
If this would happen today, right now? All four would get slaughtered so hard, that they would find themselves in Brussels, demanding reparation for the 2nd armenian genocide faster than you could spell Baklava.
