Official artwork of NG's FA-XX prototype

That's a FAMAS you spastic

>>64084660 (OP)
Even "official" art is rarely super accurate.

>>64084660 (OP)
>NG FA-XX
NiggerFaggot

most of its in mist. waste of an advert.

>thread gets deleted
>make a new one without the schizophrenia on the top

>>64084660 (OP)
Did it fart?

looks like a f-22
>>64084680
mods tend to delete chink and vatnik shills pretty quickly now. shame they don't bother with the nafo ones (which means there's nafo mods).

>>64084684
you cunts can't help but give yourself away lmao

>>64084693
nice projection there, nafo fella
i hate all of you shill faggots that ruined /k/

>>64084700
>ruined /k/
watching ruslims die in glorious HD is the best thing that has happened to /k/ since apache guncam footage. fuck off tourist

>>64084700

>>64084684
>be retarded chink or vatnik
>spam dumb threads every day
>after years of this threads starts to get deleted
>spam continues
>threads get deleted even faster
>i Am GeTtInG PeRsECuTeD hERe! wHaT aBoUt oThErS?
>continues spam
>literal decade later of this spam
>chink and still complains about their dumb threads getting deleted

If anyone needs another hint:
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/deleted/deleted/type/op/
Last three deleted threads:
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64084584/
>Would the marines aboard the USS Gerard R. Ford care about catching a couple of 1 ton glide bombs if they were tossed by Chinese cuties?
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64084513/
>NG's FA-XX entry has vertical stabilisers
Earlier version of this thread.
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64084389/
>Why can't the US make 6th gen fighters? China already has them rolling off the production line

>>64084660 (OP)
that's the gcap

>>64084711
I hope chinkspammer at least gets paid to come here every day and take our abuse, it would be incredibly pathetic if he did it for free

>>64084700
How do third worlders ever expect to win a war when they cant even shill competently?

>>64084700
>>64084684
>spams shill post
>astounded people are tired of it
Go to pol turdie

>>64084660 (OP)
Why vertical stabilisers?

>>64084744
why chink shilling?

>>64084749
Well thats an easy one, ping ping gotta get dat gutta oil somehow

>>64084660 (OP)
Another artwork?

>>64084776
hrooooor implessive might be a 5tha gen dis time

>>64084776
another shillpost?

>>64084776
4.5 gen paper kites

This is a 6th gen plane by chinatard's logic by the way.

>>64084776
Congrats. You have a flying tailless design prototype. You may join the ranks of America and Germany in the 1940s.

>>64084776
Implessive

>>64084936
>behold a 6th gen

>>64084660 (OP)
That artist rendering is years old.

>>64084711
>>Why can't the US make 6th gen fighters? China already has them rolling off the production line
>>NG's FA-XX entry has vertical stabilisers

Those two are legitimate questions/statements.

Might as well ban someone for saying "sky is blue" or "water is wet".

So, why cant the US make a single tailless stealth fighter design these days, while China flies an absolutely random number of them?

And why does the FA-XX have vertical stabilizers? Shouldnt it be at least more stealthy than the F-35 it replaces?

Give me a good faith answer to a good faith question.

>>64084936
Where's the stealth coating?
Where is the stealthy jet nozzle?
Where are the AESA radars? Where are the optoelectronic devices? Can it go supersonic? And that while being tailless.

All those are available in the Chinese planes. None of them on the german plane - or american fighters for that matter.

>>64085187
Your questions assuming the conclusion and are thus not in good faith.

>>64085187
>why cant the US make a single tailless stealth fighter design
This flew thirty years ago you disingenuous turd.

>>64085208
Yes, and where is it now? And why cant the US built untop of that awesome experience to produce something other than a subscale demonstrator today? Or not even that.

Serious question.

>>64085214
Assuming the conclusion again.

>>64085199
>chinks
>RAM

>>64085206
Good faith question:
Where is America's 6th generation fighter jet today?

Most likely answer:
You dont know.

Just admit that and I accept your concession without any prejudice.

>>64085225
India's Rafale's couldnt detect even 4th gen J-10Cs before getting shot down. And that with their superior french radars.

Chinese J-20s have crossed the Tsushima Strait undetected by either Japan or South Korea.

It's pretty good, I'd say.

>>64085238
>chink sources
implessive

>>64085226
>I accept your concession
Ironically a concession in itself. An admission that you have nothing else. You answered your own question and revealed your disingenuous intentions all in one post.

>>64085251
First source is Reuters:

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/how-pakistan-shot-down-indias-cutting-edge-fighter-using-chinese-gear-2025-08-02/

>>64085187
>>64085226
>6th generation fighter
Comrade, we talked about this already, you should be referring to Chinese fighters as 7th and 8th generation by now. With this weak and conservative shilling, you have demonstrated a lack of revolutionary virtue, poor understanding of dialectical materialism, and brought great shame to Comrade-Raceführer Xi and the Chinese people. Also, your grandparents were most likely raped by the Japanese and then staved by Mao, which is a shame, because if the Japanese had killed them when they were done raping them, or if Comrade Mao had starved them properly, you wouldn't be here spamming /k/.

>>64085238
>India's Rafale's couldnt detect even 4th gen J-10Cs before getting shot down.
I dislike the arrogant Dassault CEO as much as the next guy, but I'm pretty sure Pakistan used Erieye AEW&C to detect the Indian fighters before shooting them down. It wasn't 1v1 Rafale vs J-10C.

>>64085253
Why are you so fragile?
It's just a normal question that can be answered with a yes, no and I dont know.
Why do you stake so much of your personality into the question of whether or not America has flown a 6th generation fighter? Do you personally get more money from that if you do? Just go out and touch some grass I dunno lol

>>64084684
good will has dried up, this board has tolerated chink, zigger and other thirdie shilling in bad faith for years and years, but after a while it's gotten tiring and now when people see your
>teehee passive aggressive question thread
their immune system kicks in and they just instantly report you, this is your own fault.

>>64085269
Now you're projecting.

>>64085187
>NOOOOOOOOO BUT MY THREAD WAS LEGITIMATE, THE OP DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING RULEBREAKING IN IT!!!
starting off a thread innocently and then instantly arguing in bad faith with your own delusional conclusion woven into your passive-aggressive questions has become very recognizeable and people are getting good at just sniffing these bullshit threads out, sucks to be you, maybe just engage with the board in good faith instead off pushing narratives every single hour of the day.

>>64085280
Don't bother trying to reason with him, he's some pic related looking weirdo who probably unironically came here from r*ddit. The only thing he deserves is mockery until the janitor finally checks the report queue 6 hours from now.

>>64084684
>getting banned for this:
>>64084711

holy hell, this board truly is shill central.
You can post gore webms of Russian soldiers getting killed but will get banned for stating obvious facts like "this plane has a vertical stabilizer".

I truly want to see the faces of the mods here. Probably not any different than those redddit losers. Probably a bunch of pajeets and a few weak-chinned skinnyfat poles and balts whose translucent skins already betrays their life in mom's basement and who respond to mom calling them for dinner with "MOM I'M FIGHTING AGAINST THE ZIGGERS AND DEFENDING THE WHITE RACE (online)".

>>64085294
Again.
Why are you so fragile?
Arent you accusing the Chinese for being fragile? Glasshearted?
Why are you like this?
Why do you stake so much of your personality in this? Do you love your country so much that you are willing to die for it? Why arent you going to war then? Why are you a /k/ janny instead?

>>64085295
who is even this guy

>>64085256
>poo and paki sources

>>64085295
>announcing a report

>>64085307
I'd tell you to go outside, and chill. But you're a chang so that may be a death sentance.

>>64085316
Poo and Pakis fought the war, in case you didnt know.
No american was harmed in that fight, so forgive Reuters for not finding a MAGA-hat wearing fat american who can confirm things.

>>64084716
Nope. It's literally one White, four eyed, chinless, mentally ill incel that got kicked out of the US Army for being a mentally ill incel that spams /k/ 24/7 with CHINER STRONK, US WEAK!!!! threads because he's still bootyblasted he got discharged from the Army for being a mentally ill dysgenic freak.
Xi isn't going to give you a girlfriend, grow your chin back, make your brain normal, or turn you handsome bro.

>>64085318
I'm not the one being fragile here. You have been spamming and derailing threads for decades on end with webm spam showing gore and industrial accidents and evoked zero reaction from me. But once I ask you a normal question; "where is your 6th gen fighter?" and "why does the F/A-XX have vertical stabilizers", you immediately get all passive aggressive as if someone hurt you. Why are you like this?

>>64085331
Nta faggot
>Where is your 6G
Under development, where is yours?
>why does the F/A-XX have vertical stabilizers"
Does it?

>>64085338
Great start.

To answer the question;
1. China's 6th gens, if you want to call them such since there is no unified definition for it, are undergoing very public flight tests. We will still need roughly 10 years until they are ready.

2. The official art kind of shows that. But I concede that this might just be an artist impression, much like the canards on the F-47.

>>64084776
hey look, it's the OP, here in his totally genuine, NOT SHILLING thread, hi chinkshill, continue crying at being persecuted, little fag.
>>64085199
>where is the stealth coating
chinks have bad stealth coatings, this conclusion was reached 1000 threads ago
>where is the stealthy jet nozzle
chinks don't have good stealth faceting, this conclusion was reached a 1000 threads ago
>where are the AESA radars
chinks AESA radars are crude and worse than older western PESA radars, this conclusion was reached 1000 threads ago.

you can keep trying to push all these solved arguments like there's still a discussion to be had in the 1001st thread chinkshill, it just results in people mocking you.

this is the conclusion that has been reached regarding you and your ilk:

you are not here in good faith, you are here EXPLICITLY to shill a narrative, not understand reality

you are manipulative and dishonest, and constantly attempt "gotcha's", doublespeak, lying by omission or just straight up lying.

you have been doing this nonstop, near-daily, for an unhealthy amount of hours, for YEARS

people can recognize all of this behaviour from you people, and have gotten bored of it.

your crying about persecution falls on deaf ears for the reasons mentioned above, you are not a victim of internet bullies, you're just an aimless loser with no lot in life.

claims of pretending to be retarded will do nothing to alleviate your situation btw, that doesn't make you any less of a loser with an unhealthy time investment.

>>64085307
>w-why are you so fragile
why are you projecting? you're crying about being persecuted for blatant trolling, what a whiny lil' bitch lol

>h-hahaha why do you eat da poopoo
>n-noooo NOOO don't report me! i was just asking an innocent question, why won't you answer da innocent question of why you eat da poopoo and watch my little pony!!!!

>>64085342
>f you want to call them such since there is no unified definition for it, are undergoing very public flight tests.
Who says they are 6G?
>The official art kind of shows that.
Artists rendition homie. They are still testing X-planes.

Shits tiresome, chang.

>>64085214
Obviously, the US can, and would do these things if they were considered worth doing. That we choose not to is the real question.

>>64085348
Wow, somebody is like extremely angry, possibly due to fragility.

>>64085331
>for decades on end

>>64085342
>China's 6th gens [...] are undergoing very public flight tests
Just for comparisons sake, this is what the odd leak of a US aircraft in development looks like. The country has a reputation for flying aircraft for years before they ever get revealed to the public. They don't fly them over population centers because they don't feel an insecurity driven compulsion to show the world how truly impressive their developments are.

>>64085311
A sad little lolcow named Tenda Spencer known for spamming blacked porn here. Won't post more in case the janitor has a liberal interpretation of doxing, but his info is out there. Not that OP is Tenda, there's actually a whole "community" of these retards who seethe endlessly at the west instead of moving to glorious China or trying to better themselves. It's absolutely pathetic /pol/troon behavior.

>>64085317
I didn't even report him because it rarely does any good kek. That's the worst part: he can cry oppression and censorship all he wants, but the mods here are actually very forgiving given that he's pretty obviously a spammer with no interest in actual discussion. Every time someone actually argues his points listed here in >>64085199, he just fucks off and makes another thread.

>If one smote one of them so thoroughly that, with the bystanders watching, he could but agree, and if one thus thought he had advanced at least one step, one was greatly astonished the following thread. The China shill did not in the least remember the thread before, he continued to talk in the same old strain as if nothing had happened, and if indignantly confronted, he pretended to be astonished and could not remember anything except that his assertions had already been proved true the thread before.
>Often I was stunned. One did not know what to admire more: their glibness of
tongue or their skill in lying.
I gradually began to hate them.

>>64085358
>No u fragile
t. Spammed the 4000th thread about how China is not weak and pathetic actually America is!

>>64085358
yep, it's you, because you do all of these things, and then cry about being persecuted out of the blue for no reason.
if the exact same group of people walk into a store every single day, and try to lift items from the store shelves EVERY time, eventually, they're just going to get stopped at the door and told to fuck off.
this is the situation you have created for yourself, no amount of Deny, Deflect, Accuse is going to change it now, you made your bed.

>>64085352
A commonly held believe for 6G is that it needs to have broadband stealth, which is only achievable with tailless designs since tails are resonators, and that it has drone/wingman/CCA capabilities, as well as enough power generation for EW and DEWs.

Sure, only the tailless factor can be observed so far, and there are some signs of CCA's being tested in conjunction, but the rest is indeed an unknown, which I conceded.

On the other hand, if a plane already has vertical stabilizers, it will most likely not have broadband stealth (B-21 and B-2 have no vertical stabs because they need to be able to penetrate low frequency radar cover aka have broadband stealth). You can still have the rest, like power generation and DEWs, as well as CCAs, which would also put you into a next gen category compared to the 5th generation.

Basically, as Bill Sweetman said, 6th gen is less about the platform, but the network.

>>64085363
China only flies over population centers because the population center has expanded so rapidly, it enveloped the entire air-field which used to be outside the town.

So now he's got 3 threads on the go, plus any that might have been deleted earlier today.

>>64085383
>They are 6G because I say so
I rest my case.

>>64085390
Yeah definitely not a PR stunt like when they paraded their "rail gun" through a bush port.

>>64085393
Again this isnt what I said.
Stop projecting your fragility onto others.

I already conceded that there isnt an unified definition of 6th generation fighter jets, but there are some "next generation design features" that most other airforces in the world are pursuing.

>>64085390
Of course. It's not like the US where they have miles and miles of uninhabited desert where they could conduct test flights away from prying eyes. They just don't have any choice but to allow for close up photos (but not too close) to get disseminated to the world at large.

>>64085383
>achievable
not
>garuanteed
>>64085390
no, china has the resources to just build a quiet testing range for these aircraft in the middle of nowhere, china has plenty of middle of nowhere, they just intentionally fly these at low altitude over populated areas because they wanted to get a propaganda victory that idiots will pump their fists to.

>>64085399
You said Chinas 6G planes are on public display. I asked how we know they are 6G. You tried to talk your way out of it.

Simple as.

>>64085395
Yes, and the railgun was tested in secret, without a PR video or news announcement or public presentation.
The PLAN found it wanting at the current stage, since the rail melting issue persists (because the PLAN wanted a large caliber railgun), but the project is still continuing.

That was literally the polar opposite of doing propaganda.

The Turks and Japanese did PR, with videos showing their small caliber railgun firing from a dozen different angles.

>>64085399
>s-stop projecting
you're going defensive but you've already been detected nigger, no amount of pretending to be in good faith is going to help now.

>>64085415
>Parading it around in a public port
>Is the opposite of propaganda!
Such tiresome "people".

>Parading it around in a public port
>Is the opposite of propaganda!

Better it shows cool shit than whatever picrel is supposed to be lmao.

>>64085432
Lmao, so easy to make you mad. Such fragility.

>>64085414
We dont know if they are 6G, but they showed certain features that aligns with next gen concepts.

>>64085439
Why isnt the Zumwalt hidden in the desert? Why must the US parade it around in a public port?

>>64085443
>but they showed certain features that aligns with next gen concepts.
Features form 1990's US designs are 6G?

>>64085448
>Why is an active duty US warship in port?
Probably to get cleaned up after a deployment.

>>64085402
Aircraft manufacturers are made of people, who have homes and families. And those are usually city people, since they graduated universities, which are situated in major cities.

Chengdu Aircraft Corp and Shenyang are literally named after their cities.

When the prototype testing is finished, they will be sent to the desert bases for tactical integration training, because that's not where the majority of chinese engineers want to go anyway.

>>64085443
>they showed certain features that aligns with next gen concepts
Sort of like the US was doing 30-70 years ago.

1962

>>64085457
Yes, and the Chinese landing ship converted to a railgun testbed is also an active landing ship.

And what deployments did the Zumwalt go? Did it go to fight the Houthis?

>>64085458
This is some fucking unreal cope.

>>64085463
Sorta, but not completely.

The Bird of Prey was more next gen with its blended body design than this one, which still features a prominent tail.

>>64085471
>The Bird of Prey was more next gen
Again, Nineteen Sixty Two

>>64085469
The newest Chinese jet is said to be associated with the Xi'an Politechnical University. Aka it is a stealth aircraft built by engineering students.
Even more reason for them to fly it over the city, since college boys have even less incentives to go to some desert for a school project. No bars and no girls there.

>>64085466
>Nooo! Parading the fake railgun through a busy public port is the same as having an active duty warship in port!!!!111
Zumwalts are in active service in the pacific and one is being moved to Mississippi for refit to get hypersonics. Cope.

>>64085448
>decade old active duty naval vessel
>secret prototype

>>64085432
>loses argument
>loses temper
>gets angry and posts pictures of rusty ships, which chinks don't have since they never leave port lmao
why are you so fragile? you lose a tiny little argument and you immediately drop the half-hearted attempt at a non-shilling convo and go back to screeching chinkshill.

>>64085484
>China has public "secret" projects because it's impossible for China - CHINA - to move some people to the desert.
We need a word for this. Super-Cope. Hyper-Cope.

It's flying in public because they want you to see it. It's a PR stunt. Like everything in China.

>>64085478
Yes, America is impressive. There was a reason why the 20th century was owned by America. I concede this.

Now, the question is if past glories will allow the US to have a headstart in next generation fighter jets too. I honestly wish to see the US F-47 or any other project fly soon. But besides a lot of announcements and unveils, I havent seen much, to be honest.

In the meantime, I follow and discuss the planes that are actually flying, which are the Chinese ones.

>>64085484
All of this is cope. They're flying them over cities because they want the world to see, because they, like you, are deeply insecure.

>>64085499
>, the question is if past glories will allow the US to have a headstart in next generation fighter jets too.
Yes. We have a massive head start. No one disputes this.
> I follow and discuss the planes that are actually flying, which are the Chinese ones.
Are they 6G or are they copies of X-planes developed for NASA in the 1990's?

>>64085497
You might want to tell the Japanese that all the sightings of PLAN carrier groups entering their waters and surrounding their islands and sailing to Guam is actually not real, since Chinese ships never exit port.

>>64085484
and yet every serious country with real stealth aircraft doesn't fly their prototypes slowly at low altitude over major cities.

you keep trying to defend it but again chinkshill, this has been discussed in hundreds of different threads and the conclusion was already made, there is no argument for you to win, the argument was had and you lost, these pictures are the result of chinese face-saving behaviour, there is no rational explanation because there is no rational reason to do this.

>>64085499
>In the meantime, I follow and discuss the planes that are actually flying
Except there's fucking nothing to discuss you disingenuous turd. If it weren't for the braindead implessive posters and your obsessive cope these threads would rarely hit 30 posts.

Breaking news, new blurry photo with zero information. Time to cover it round the clock across multiple threads for 6 weeks until the next blurry photo with zero information drops.

>>64085512
>These deployments are impressive for Chang
Just shows how vastly different our standards are.

>>64085507
As said, America is the greatest and best. American X-planes from the 1940s is much more advanced than anything anyone else can come up with.

Now, where is the F/A-XX or NGAD? I want to see it fly.

>>64085399
>"next generation design features"
80 year old next generation design features. I hope you get paid per post at least.

>>64085522
>where is the F/A-XX or NGAD?
Under development.
>I want to see it fly
Regrettably, we don't run PR stunts of X-planes. You'll have to wait until the project goes into LRP.

>>64085512
yep, they don't deploy as often or as far as US ships, which you'd know if you were actually interested in military matters and not poorly absorbing knowledge through osmosis purely to further your shilling efforts, identified and bad-faith angry chinkshill.

>>64085453
He'll remake the same thread again and again until he gets to hear what he wants. No matter how many times his shit gets disproven he'll just make it again and push the same exact thing.

And he's got the gall to complain about censorship after this.

>>64085499
you are still desperately and not very subtle trying to equate the two as if they are the same lol.
the F-47 is flying, and it's an actual 6th gen project unlike these bodykits you keep shilling
>d-discussing!
shilling for. they also don't intentionally fly it at low altitude over heavily populated areas like chinks do because there is actual innovative next-gen technology in there they'd like to keep secret.

>>64085520
570 sorties in 9 days? Fighters only, excluding helicopters? That's 46-47 sorties a day with an airgroup that is only 24 fighter planes, meaning every plane has flown two times per day.

https://www.mod.go.jp/js/pdf/2023/p20231106_01.pdf

It's honestly not too bad.

To compare, the USN only manages to fly once per day per plane, with a much larger air-group.

>>64085498
>>64085502
So B-21s flying in public was also done as PR and the US feels insecure?

>>64085527
Drones/CCA is 80 years old?

>>64085558
you mean once the aircraft had already been publically announced and people already knew about it's existence, chinkshill?

you're so bad at shilling it's honestly surprising the chinese govt hasn't sent assassins to slip a knife into your throat yet, you're seriously hurting their reputation with your autistic spams, identified and angry chinkshill.

>>64085558
We didn't have two concurrent threads every day for months on end prior to the B-21 reveal, and no photos of it in flight during development.

Keep coping. Stay insecure.

>>64085533
I'd say the Chinese are going very far, especially considering that unlike the US, they dont have any support bases on the way.

The US deployments are all from one base to another, with very rarely operating far from any overseas base.

China's navy deployments are thus much more hazardous than USN base-hoppings and put much more strain on undersea supply ships, which is why the US doesnt have undersea rearmament anymore since the end of the cold war, but China always maintained that capability.

>>64085553
>the F-47 is flying

proofs?

>>64085558
>So B-21s flying in public was also done as PR
No, it was done to abide by SALT treaties signed with the USSR/Russoids. The B-21 is a leg of the nuclear triad, and has to be publically disclosed. You would know this if you weren't a leftypol tankie troon that doesn't know shit about anything.

>>64085560

>>64085486
>Zumwalts are in active service in the pacific and one is being moved to Mississippi for refit to get hypersonics. Cope.

Cool.
America might finally get shipborne hypersonics.
Caught up with China circa 2015.

>>64085556
>570 sorties in 9 days?
May I see them?

>>64085560
1948

>>64085556
Nimitz-classes have a daily sortie rate of 120 and can surge to 240 for 48 hours.

>>64085583
Cool, US railguns and the Zumwalt was also part of the SALT treaty?
Totally not PR.

>>64085573
>l-look we can go past the 1st island chain during peacetime and not get instantly destroyed
very implessive chang
well actually no it's not very impressive lol, this isn't a very far deployment and you're not gonna get to do this during wartime where the US will, because they actually do it.

very impressive.
I hope the engine will be honest this time.

>>64085592
Ask the Japanese.
I attached the Japanese Ministry of Defense report in that post. The Japanese actually tracked the Chinese carrier group during its entire duration.

>>64085519
>If it weren't for the braindead implessive posters and your obsessive cope these threads would rarely hit 30 posts.
He'd just change IPs and bump them every time they hit page 9 like every other unpaid shill on this site, the only difference would be the catalog would be flooded with week+ old threads in which he was the only poster. If he's going to shit up the place either way, then I'm at least going to call him a faggot for it.

>>64085573
>especially considering that unlike the US, they dont have any support bases on the way.
kek, not our fault the so-called china treats its neighbors like shit and can only somewhat bribe people to its side with a combination of belt and road loansharking and absolute disdain for human rights to appeal to thirdie dictators.

>>64085590
>America might finally get shipborne hypersonics.
Nice 3 second video of a booster going mach 1. Now, may I see these hypersonic ship borne missiles you speak of actually going hypersonic speeds and hitting something? Also, showing off a copy of Boeing's HyFly isn't the own you think it is. All it shows is chiner can only copy, and can't even fully flesh out the designs they're copying.

>>64085615
>look mom I posted it again

>>64085590
>ballistic missile
China cought up with 1960 US?

>>64085577
don't need any, we've had headsup from the people working on it and that's it
i understand your chinkshill memory is very short, but we just discussed how we don't do "leaked" photo ops like chinks do with their bodykits.
>>64085608
you mean after they've been in service for years?
also
>comparing 10.000 ton cruisers with jet aircraft
chinky...
tssk tssk tssk...poor chinky, you just doesn't get it lol.

>>64085608
What do they have to do with nuclear bombers and treaties? Or are you just grasping at anything you can now because you got BTFO?

>>64085621
I'm sure you have a lot of PR videos of this being launched from any random Arleigh Burke Class DDG since it has become the standard anti-ship weapon, much like how the YJ-21 has become in the PLAN...

>>64085615
debunked, known, identified and angry chinkshill.
>NOOOOO ARGUE WITH ME
the argument was had and you lost, sorry, chink engines are worse than american engines, too bad!

>>64085617
I don't read gook runes, and neither do you. So, where is the proofs?

>>64085619
China has a base in Djibouti, just as the US and Japan as well. Funny how the Chinese treat them like dirt but allowed to keep a base, which is even expanding now.

Cambodia will be the next naval base.

>>64085634
impressive

>>64085633
>YJ-21
Waow, V-2 hypersonic so good!

>>64085639
it is very impressive how high your blood pressure gets every day, yes.
you're probably going to die an early death because you took the mistaken career path of being a loser chinkshill lol.

>>64085303
No, it's the opposite, if we allowed inflationary cheap spam and thread number 91882 made in bad faith it would be shill central. You can lie as much as you want, these threads get spammed, add nothing of value, have been discussed a hundred times only to get restarted with the same bullshit again.

What lets everyone lose even the last bit of doubt is this endless ignorance of disingenuous posters like you to what OP and the likes have been doing for years.

>>64085633
>I'm sure you have a lot of PR videos of this being launched from any random Arleigh Burke Class DDG since it has become the standard anti-ship weapon,
Why would the US adopt an anemic warheaded mach 6 MAX short range missile when it already has the SM-6 which is hypersonic, and has a comparable warhead size?
>much like how the YJ-21 has become in the PLAN...
The YJ-21 is standard? Proof? So, I take it you have countless videos of them launching from Type 054 destroyers? Or only from one of the 8 Type 055s chiner can afford to build?

>>64085642

>>64085637
proof is the official release by the Japanese MSDF

https://www.mod.go.jp/js/pdf/2023/p20231106_01.pdf
Use a google translate to read it.

Alternatively, there is the english versions of Japan Times and Taiwan News writing about this and another carrier deployment where China has managed to do 1000 sorties.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/5034954
>China launches 570 carrier-based sorties east of Taiwan over 9 days
Shandong carrier task force is currently headed toward South China Sea

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/06/20/japan/china-aircraft-carriers-1000-sorties/

>Chinese aircraft carriers conducted over 1,000 sorties during Pacific training

Taiwan and Japan have zero interest in glazing China, btw.

>>64085633
>YJ-21
Literally just an Iskander

>>64085303
so true sister!

>>64085653

>>64085609
The US never deployed carriers during wartime against a peer competitor either, and US carriers will be hunted and sunk in the first days or hours of any peer conflict.

And The US carriers had to retreat against the Houthis, who werent even a peer competitor in the first place.

>>64085652
>Taiwan and Japan have zero interest in glazing China, btw.
No, but they do have an interest in fluffing chiners abilities so that they get more protection and shekels from big daddy US. Now, that proof, please.

>>64085675
the US has no peers. cope and seethe turdie

>>64085638
OH NOES!!1!1 Djibouti and Cambodia! How will the decadent west ever recover? I kind of wish the Cambodians had the spine to tell the so-called china to fuck off considering they supported the communist regime that killed roughly a quarter of Cambodia's entire population. You're not really countering my point, comrade.

>>64085675
>against a peer competitor
The US has no peer competitor.

>>64085675
>The US never deployed carriers during wartime against a peer competitor
wrong. The US has reached a stalemate with the Houthi. That is the greatest military achievement since WWII.

>>64085653

Not exactly an Iskander, because the YJ-21 is quite a bit faster in the terminal stage, but even the Iskander is bad news for the US, seeing how Ukraine needs 30+ Patriot missiles on average to bring down a single Iskander.

And while Patriots can be reloaded on land, if you have the spare missiles in the first place, a ship on the high seas cannot be rearmed - and even if, not as quickly.

>>64085686
yes they do.
see
>>64085689
well technically. The Houthi buys from Aliexpress. So Maybe they are near peer but the US was fighting with its peer - Aliexpress - by proxy.

>>64085675
and they won't this time either, because china is not a peer competitor.
not that that matters, since your arbitrary standard is meaningless, you are not here in good faith.
>had to retreat against the houthis
nope, they didn't.
>proofs
burden of proof is on you, you're the identified and angry chinkshill who comes to this board in bad faith, you should try to prove it and then i have the right to dismiss it if i find the proof is inadequate, which it always is because you've tried this before.

>>64085187
>Tailless
>naval fighter
Let's see you do a landing at sea state 6 with a tailless fighter lmao

>>64085696
samefag

>>64085694
>but even the Iskander is bad news for the US, seeing how Ukraine needs 30+ Patriot missiles on average to bring down a single Iskander.
lmao

>>64085684
The current Cambodian president was ex-Khmer Rouge. Why would he be mad about China? Also, it wasnt just China who supported them but also Kissinger's America, as the Khmer Rouge where Anti-Soviet communist allies who hated the pro-soviet Vietnamese communists.

>>64085689
>>64085694
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/filename/greatnavy.png/
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/filename/Patriotbros.png/
do you have a dedicated folder full of shill material or something?

>>64085694
>a ship on the high seas cannot be rearmed
logisticslet cope

>>64085694
>binkov

>>64085709
he is an identified and angry chinkshill, so yes.

It's always so odd to watch how the shills can't talk about one thing and have to drag in twenty different things they leave alone a moment later when they lost on that topic as well only to start drag in other stuff. It's more like they have to convince themselves than anyone else. How they drag up old shit in almost every thread only makes it worse.

I mean who do even convince with this kind of behavior? Idiots and maybe newfags that just gonna hate them even more once they realize how full of shit they are. In the end the only ones on their side are delusional people and idiots, and it shows when you see the whole thing pop up again.

>>64085679
Same report from the United States (of America) Naval Institute

https://news.usni.org/2025/06/23/chinese-dual-pacific-carrier-deployment-wraps-u-k-royal-navy-warship-transits-taiwan-strait#:~:text=Shandong%20CSG%20Shandong%20carried%20out%20approximately%20420,Spey%20(P234)%20conducted%20a%20Taiwan%20Strait%20transit.

It's crazy, since it confirms the notion that the PLAN CSGs are much more capable than estimated. On Tuesday, June 17 the older Liaoning Carrier performed 80 takeoffs and landings, combined into 700 sorties by the end of the deployment. Reminder that this is the actual ex-soviet rustbucket carrier that the Chinese refurbished, and not the completely new-built carrier which also was deployed alongside it.

Needless to say, China is already a blue-water naval power and there is zero excuse for the US sailing rusting ships into their public harbor. Especially not a ship that hasnt been seriously deployed in any manner.

>>64085724
The mistake you're making is assuming they are actually trying to convince anyone of anything. They do this for the emotional high.

>>64085707
>The current Cambodian president was ex-Khmer Rouge
Old chatbot tier memory, you just proved my original point, that the china only appeals to dictatorial shitholes. Kind of a shame for the Cambodian people though.
>but whatabout America?
We are talking about the china (no such country).

>>64085742
identified and angry bad-faith chinkshill, all of these posts fall on deaf ears, you already outed yourself with your melty over an hour ago, none of your arguments are legitimate because you've discredited yourself that much, sucks to suck.

>>64085712
The USN used to do RAS back during Cold War, but there's a reason why they stopped.
It's dangerous, it's slow, it depends on calm sea-states.
The tactical advantage of it is also increasingly in question, since you'd need two ships filled with explosives sailing close to each other at very slow speeds and straight paths, or even remaining stationary.
Not really a good thing to do when you are already under threat of AShM/AShBM attacks, as seen during the recent Red Sea debacle where a carrier lost a SuperHornet when it did an evasive maneuver.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-29/f18-fighter-jet-slips-off-us-navy-hangar-deck/105227738
>A US official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that initial reports were that the Truman made a hard turn because of a Houthi attack in the vicinity, but it was unclear if that had caused the F-18 to fall overboard.

>>64085743
>They do this for the emotional high.
It's probably for survival reasons too, can you imagine the emotional trauma if the colllective dumb shit they have done hits them like a brick wall? Would probably be enough to die of embarresment.

>>64085759
What is bad faith about stating a fact?

"Water is wet" is bad faith? "Rusting ships arent good" is bad faith? "Rusting ships without having the excuse of long deployments" is bad faith?

I guess the true bad faith was your birth in the first place.

>>64084660 (OP)
>Official artwork of NG's FA-XX prototype

Cool.
When will we see the real thing?

>>64085796
fuck off shill

>>64085784
what is bad faith about lying every single day, displaying manipulative behaviour every single day, asking loaded passive-aggressive questions with the incorrect conclusion woven into the question every day? what is bad-faith about then crying about persecution when people see you do this every single day? i don't know, identified and angry bad-faith chinkshill, you tell me.

>>64085796
it's highly C•L•A•S•S•I•F•I•E•D

>>64085796
it's adorable how you keep making these posts as if people will not catch on that you're pretending to be a "new" guy who just entered the thread and totally didn't samefag against his own OP lol.

>>64085796
lol newfag missed the entire shit thread

answer: you wont and will never.

>>64085784
Isn't it bad faith when you restart an overdiscussed topic again and ignore all the answers you already had gotten before? When you act like it is something new? When you act like you down nothig wrong when you thrown shit in every direction the last time you were given a chance?

>>64085820
>you will never see the Fag-47 ever!! It's so stealthy
k

>>64085796
Talking about whether an american 6th gen render will become real one day is like talking about Trump on Epstein's list.

Innocent questions, but taken as bad-faith provocations by certain red-hat wearing people suffering from TDS.

>>64085841
>he says right after he made posts about how he isn't arguing in bad faith

>>64085841
>overemotional seethe response caused by being wrong
lel.
you're not going to see it, even when it's decimating the chinks you so desperately shill for as a spiteful action towards the country you blame for your own failures in life, chinkshill.

>>64085303
>"MOM I'M FIGHTING AGAINST THE ZIGGERS AND DEFENDING THE WHITE RACE (online)".
You lazy fucks really can only take what other people have said about you and try to flip it around.

>>64085841
>i-i don't argue in bad faith stop bullying poor old me!!! oh me oh my!
>posts this immediately after
really goes to show why you never picked a different career path that isn't [fucking loser] lel, your IQ is just too low.

>>64085860
I cant wait to get decimated by Epstein's client list lmao

>>64085884
>goes full schizomode off-topic distraction
lel, it really is impressive how fucking bad you are at shilling, you make posts like this and then immediately try to go back to your poor little bullied "just asking questions" persona and think people will just forget what you said lmao.

>>64085820
>can't show something that isn't real
at least you're honest

>>64085898
Stop being fragile.
Repair your fragility by posting a single picture of your F-47 or whatever.

>>64085852
>>64085884
>whatabout bluumbphf!!1!
Pulling out all the stops already? Now you've convinced me: the multipolar world order has clearly suffered some kind of humiliation today. Witkoff meeting not go well for Monke?

>>64085907
Why do you assume I care about Russians?
Are you some pole or balt who would get anal raped the moment the US empire retreats? Why are you so fragile? Are you that weak-chinned skinnyfat mod/janny that the other anon is talking about?

I'm german and actually find it funny how much of a pedo Trump is, since that's not how a strong man should be who slaps tariffs on everyone else. In our culture, it is normal to satirize the powerful. Maybe you should try too.

>>64085884
>>64085904
Did you just unironically switched to full bot reply mode and expected to win with this?
You just proven one more time how you argue in bad faith and are overall a very dishonest person.

>>64085923
Dennis is that you? Are you a doctor by now or did you fuck your life up again?

>>64085934
Dennis? Wer ist das?
Auch, wer heißt noch Dennis heutzutage? Das ist so 90ger.

>>64085923
Why the sudden off-topic seething then?

>>64085934
I can't imagine looking like pic related, would probably kill myself (I'm sure he's tried). Is there a name for this phenotype?

>>64085904
>s-stop being fragile
you're projecting again, identified and angry chinkshill.
gonna have another melty?
>>64085903
oh wait you already are

>i-if i just start spamming angrily where the F-47 is then that will make my last few hours of humiliation dissapear
no lol, good to see you fully drop the mask of genuineness off now, should've just done that in the beginning of your first shill thread of today and saved yourself the extra humiliation.

>>64085940
Dennis, a serb schizo that lives in Germany, known for being a failure in life and blogposting on /pol/ and /int/, a certified schizo.

>>64085884
Is he really still pissed that everyone ripped him apart for the stealth comments

>>64085948
Is that actually him?

>>64085948
>Is there a name for this phenotype?
Rural inbreeding to the point of severe mental defects.

>>64085962
We call it Elefantenbaby, aka. Steffen, since most are named as such.

>>64085962
also mongol admixture
it's impressive how the mongols at their peak were this impressive and fearsome force of nature and competence, but all the regions they plundered and raped, their remaining DNA just causes the inhabitants to be disgusting, spiteful loser failures to this day, russia and china being good examples of this.

>>64085971
But enough about yourself, let's talk about the F/A-XX's vertical stabilizers now.

>>64085262
Why are Saab 340 & descendants so sexy?
A lot of twin/quad turboprop transporters seem to have a similar sexyness. 340 is probably tops, but the P-3 has some of that same appeal too

>>64085960
Yes, he even posted his ID on KC, but mods here consider that doxing, even though it's out of date and has the important stuff covered up.

>>64085979
lol good job confirming it, i bet you wince every time you look in the mirror and see your dysgenic grimace

>>64085988
He had done anything noteworthy in the last two years execpt being a complete failure as usual?