Thread 64085678

Do mercenaries from 3rd world countries have a place in a modern fighting force?

After the Battle of Monte Cassino:
>"The French colonial troops are on the rampage again. Whenever they take a town or a village, a wholesale rape of the population takes place. Recently all females in the villages of Patricia, Pofi, Isoletta, Supino, and Morolo were violated. In Lenola, which fell to the Allies on 21 May, fifty women were raped, but – as these were not enough to go round – children and even old men were violated. It is reported to be normal for two Moroccans to assault a woman simultaneously, one having normal intercourse while the other commits sodomy. In many cases severe damage to the genitals, rectum and uterus has been caused. In Castro di Volsci doctors treated 300 victims of rape, and at Ceccano the British have been forced to build a guarded camp to protect the Italian women."

>>64085693
>in Vallemaio two sisters had to satisfy a platoon of 200 goumiers; 300 of these, on the other hand, abused a sixty-year-old.

Average Moroccan interaction

>>64085678 (OP)
>>64085693
>>64085737
>Given the involvement of non-commissioned officers and white officers, some of them Italian-speaking as Corsican, not present in the Goumier troop departments, it can be said that the rapists nestled in all four divisions of the CEF. Perhaps also for this reason, the French officers did not respond to any solicitation from the victims and watched impassively at the work of their men. As the testimonies report, when civilians showed up to report the violence, the officers shrugged their shoulders and dismissed them with a smirk.

Why were the french officers so indifferent to the suffering of women and children? Would the Moroccans rebelled if the french officers used physical force to stop the rapes?

>>64085817
>General Alphonse Juin was alleged to have said before the battle: "For fifty hours you will be the absolute masters of what you will find beyond the enemy. Nobody will punish you for what you will do, nobody will ask you about what you will get up to."

The thin veneer of "civility" breaks immediately once the fighting starts. Ubiquitoisly throughout history, once an invading force claims victory, men and women between the ages of 8 and 80 are raped and killed en masse as war trophies, with no trial or justice ever being sought for the victims.

Kind of makes you realize how modern notions of "feminism" and "equality" would fall apart immediately if tested by more serious circumstances. Women don't control social virtues by moral finger wagging for 99% of history.

>>64085817
>Why were the french officers so indifferent to the suffering of women and children?
They were enemy women and children. 2 be fair, the French officers were also just as indifferent to the suffering of their own soldiers (especially the Colonials). The French military culture of the time lionized the individual infantryman in propaganda but in practice treated him like something less than human.

Imagine living a peaceful life in the cozy Italian countryside when a bunch of Moroccan niggers invade your neighborhood, break into your house, steal your daughters, and then when you try to resist, they tie you to a tree and forcibly stretch your asshole with a series of bareback Moroccan creampies provided by filthy mercenaries who haven't had a bath in 4 weeks. All the while hearing your daughters being ravaged by 20 men standing around them in a circle.

>>64085693
>with a musket aimed at them
wat

>>64085975
It's poorly translated from spaghetti nigger to english

>>64085959
That's just 2025

Spike Milligan talking about Goumiers and the singer Sally Fields in his memoirs:
>to get rid of her we directed her to a table of Goumiers (rapists by appointment of the Allies). "Sallyyy, Sallllyyy" she sang to the baffled Moroccans. They didn't even try to rape her.

If the allies were the "good guys", how come they raped so much more than the Germans did? Why is it not discussed today?
The allies literally weaponized savage rape nigger warbands and you have to browse 4chan to find out.

>>64085678 (OP)
Enter the best colonial troops

>>64086128
The Germans raped more people in poland

>>64086128
Both sides raped the shit out of everyone
That's just the nature of warfare I'm afraid

>>64086128
how come you only brought up the germans?

>>64086166
The Italians never won any territory to pillage.

>>64085678 (OP)
Did ww1 German Colonial Troops not wear helmets?

>>64085678 (OP)
Pathetic. The USSR raped that many in a single hour.

>>64085678 (OP)
>>64085693
>>64085737
>>64085817
> quoting literal atrocery propaganda that was invented decades after the war
if things were really this bad then why didn't the italians flee north?

>>64086174
you forgot japan

>>64086578
found the Moroccan

Is rape really that common in war? Even man on man??

>>64086931
Morroccans are moslem.

>>64085678 (OP)
pretty standard conduct for the IDF

>>64086128
The german army was an even bigger bunch of degens, the veneer of civility wears off them quick in wartime.

>>64085678 (OP)
jeets did most of the heavy lifting fighting the Japanese in Burma for the allies.

>>64086174
They have a whole song about Abyssinia women anon

>>64087544
had no idea desu

>>64085866
Allowing troops a brief period of mayhem following the taking of a city is tradition. In Europe it led to cities declaring themselves "open", not resisting the entrance of an army in exchange for avoiding a violent sacking.

>>64086141
>>64086157
>>64086128
>>64087292
wrong.
race mixing was a crime in nazi germany.
plus the generarlity was strictly against close social contacts to keep tripper and lice out, and the aggression level/killer instict high.

it were mostly the einsatzgruppen and local collaborateurs who violated the civilians.

>>64090565
>race mixing was a crime in nazi germany.
clean wehrmacht myth again
>it was only the einsatzgruppen that did bad things

You wehraboos are so fucking retarded.

>>64093281
> clean wehrmacht myth again

>>64093281
notice how you changed
> mostly
to
> only
when quoting him

a bit odd innit?

>>64090565
>wrong.
>race mixing was a crime in nazi germany
Oh, well, that's settles it. The mass execution, robbery and rape of all of Europe? Vile propaganda. The Allies killed civilians in advance, killed incinerated the locals with death squads, then dumped the pre-prepared bodies in shallow graves as a frameup. Germans don't break the law. Case closed.

>>64093346
> The Allies killed civilians in advance, killed incinerated the locals with death squads, then dumped the pre-prepared bodies in shallow graves as a frameup
not to be that guy but ...

>>64093335
notice how
>local collaborateurs
was not mentioned?

His post is a classic clean wehrmacht post. Next he will mention that rape is illegal and murder illegal in germany so only the SS, einsatzgruppen did it. The evil wehrmacht soldier that did such horrible crimes got punished, and then sent to a straffbattalion (that did those crimes anyway as part of the job). video related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PJkNZ30WV0

The Gernans commited sexual crimes on all fronts and only the Russians managed to beat them by a significant scale. If an american did some rapes then they usually showed up the day after with various food products and insisted the woman was a prostitute or the relation was consensual. And they did not shoot the woman to hide the crime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7oqNLEzdLU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht#Rape
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_brothels_in_World_War_II
The germans have a estimate of 10 million cases of rape (which I guess include women forced into prostitution by lack of food or physical force) on the eastern front which include poles, belorussians, russian, ukranien, baltic and jewish women. Subhuman women that are not equal to german women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany#Soviet_troops
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_Soviet_occupation_of_Poland#Rape_during_the_liberation_of_Serbia
The russians are estimated to have raped 2 million girls in germany alone and going by picture related they probably reached 10 million with ease considering they raped everyone with a vagina and was alive (or dead) infront of them when pushing towards berlin.

>>64093582
> quoting TIK in 2k25
oh no no no

Totally organic thread made in good faith to initiate civilized discussions using reliable sources, started by a white person.

>>64085866
>>General Alphonse Juin was alleged to have said before the battle: "For fifty hours you will be the absolute masters of what you will find beyond the enemy. Nobody will punish you for what you will do, nobody will ask you about what you will get up to."
Nigger this was invented decades after the war by literal actual Italian communists. All they can do is lie.

>>64093629
Well that is disappointing. Did tik not make a follow up video on german losses?.

Military History Visualized have a figure of 2.74 million deaths on the eastern front from 1941-44
https://youtu.be/YaSxLg_5DQc?t=641

>>64085693
>He died two days later from internal lacerations reported

Were they shoving knives up his ass or something?

>>64085959
>Imagine living a peaceful life in the cozy Italian countryside

bruh, Mussolini had been in power even longer than Hitler and enforced his rule through unabashed state terrorism. Also Southern Italy was basically an honorary third world shithole until the Cold War finally elevated the general standard of living.

>>64086128
>If the allies were the "good guys", how come they raped so much more than the Germans did?

The Nazis operated literal rape camps, where for 3 Reichsmarks, you got 15 minutes to do whatever you wanted to Polish, French, Jewish, and Ukrainian girls as young as 12.

>>64086128
Because the Germans lost, retard

>>64093847
aren't those just brothels

>>64094360
Germans can't stop sex trafficking foreign citizens into their brothels. It's genetic.

>>64094392
>>64093847
french brothels were 99% french whores that were already whores pre-war and by early 1941 is was less than 2k women

but sure
> 3 Reichsmarks, you got 15 minutes to do whatever you wanted to girls as young as 12.

>>64094360
>aren't those just brothels
>prostitutes in question aren't actually being paid and forced to work at gunpoint

It's a fucking rape camp

>>64094419
> > prostitutes in question aren't actually being paid and forced to work at gunpoint
> > it was real in my mind
the bad stuff only went down in countries where prositution was illegal before
but even there it is vastly exagerrated (both sides alike - there were no gorillion rapes by soviets, no bazillion rapes by French Colonioal troops and no fantastillion rapes by Wehrmacht soldiers - yes it did happen but the numbers were pumped up in the late 60s in order to create the narrative of women being the worst victims of war and push feminism)

>>64093281
>evil wehrmacht myth again

>>64094899

Yes, the Wehrmacht was evil.

>>64095093
Last time I saw this image, it had twice the resolution. Why is it getting smaller?.

>>64095093
stormfags made these badly shopped images decades ago to radicalize people by debunking their own fakes

>>64095093
Ok give me source for pictures on the right. Bet you can't

>>64095123
The images on the left are the shooped ones, done intentionally poorly so that stormfags could have an artificial "aha moment" and point it out to people.

>>64095123
It's shooped images so anybody can dismiss any real photos as 'fake'. Poison the well, one rotten apple spoils the bunch yadda yadda. These people aren't idiots, they're just using their above-average intelligence in weird culty ways. It's the same shit as
>dude if I had 6 million cookies and 10 bakeries... wtf that doesn't work!!!
When nobody has ever said all six million were gassed or cremated or anything. But they pretend that's true so they can use 'facts and logic' to dismiss the thing entirely. I remember an old /pol/ infographic which was essentially
>We don't deny the holocaust happened we just deny the number and methods
And that's by and large not the case.

>>64095076
All sides performed summary executions, weird thing to cry about

>>64095076
Killing partisans is legally allowed, anon. Combatants without uniform are war criminals under the geneva convention.

>>64095093
My grandpa at least was pretty open about the plundering. Heck, he kept it up from Poland into Ukraine and Italy. Stole a Beretta from an Italian officer POW there.

>>64085817
Look up how the Spanish fascist officers viewed their moroccan auxiliaries doing the same to communist women.

>>64085866
Widespread rape of men is something we politely like to ignore for history, even though the savagery of modern day apes in Russia shows us how easy it is for that demasculinizing sentiment of rape someone to steal their manhood. It's not universal to every conflict, in some cases it'd just be homosexual/homosexually abused sadists doing it, in others it would be widespread and normalized. But it was much more common than our fantasizing about period warfare holds. In fact I've been thinking of pejoratives/slurs that carry more venom and anger than just 'fucker' 'nigger' 'faggot', 'kys' and so on, and I've been circling back around to that old 2000s trend of using the word raped in game parlance. Since
>"I fucking hate you faggot I'm going to beat the shit out of you"
versus
>"I fucking hate you, I am going to rape you"
Carries a lot more anger.

I remember hearing on an old documentary some viking had the nickname of baby-something with the idea posited being he'd impale the children of villages he raided on a spear. I get the feeling the real reason for that nickname was a different kind of brutalizing. And if someone posits "Nuh uh they were all based and tradchristians who wouldn't stick their penis in an ass" - I'd point to the Russians doing it with broomsticks. I Just get the feeling when you're willing to do Swedish Drink to someone in the 1600s you're not going to suddenly have a moral crisis and stop one of your soldiers when he starts sodomizing one of your prisoners with a halberd staff.

>>64095278
>Russia shows us how easy it is for that demasculinizing sentiment of rape someone to steal their manhood
Russia is a special kind of homosexuality. Instead of normal rape or mutilation they do crazy shit like forcing two men to have gay sex and then hold one and spin him around like a helicopter. I have not read anyone doing the same elaborate gay shit like the russians.

>>64086128
>If the allies were the "good guys", how come they raped so much more than the Germans did?
>raped more than the Germans did
You dumb retard
The Dirlewanger Brigade alone raped more than the entire Allied Western theater combined.

And that is before we consider
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_birthing_centres_for_foreign_workers
Educate yourself dumb fuck

>>64095369
That is just straight up wrong, you shouldn't lie on the internet
It is known that france and britain almost exclusively sent troops from their colonies when they invaded italy so they rape every village they see

>>64093281
>>64095076
>>64095076
H*ly heckin wholesome my guy! You have won reddit gold my guy!

>>64094899
Even if you retards disregard the massive amount of warcrimes and attrocities aknowledged by the germans themselves, It is statistically impossible to charge the likes of the waffen SS/SS/Einsatzgruppen and "affiliated" military police squads to be the only responsible for biggest amount of dead civilians in wartime in the history of humankind.
The krauts had it coming and rapes were a mercyful outcome. The entire Wehrmacht should have been burnt alive in their germanqualität oven, and the rest of the krauts should have been nuked, burned, and killed, to last one.

Whats with all the jews itt?

>>64090565
Kinda true.

I worked with a Polish guy for a few years who was a Polish nationalist and while he disliked Germany he HATED russia.

His grandparents were all teens in the war. He said his grandparents told him that while the usual looting, murder etc happened under tha nazis, there were limits. For example a Kraut would steal your food, livestock etc but if they saw you had children would leave a milk cow so that you wouldn't starve to death. Also the rape wasn't that prevalent under them because of what >>64090565 said.

The Soviets on the other hand were subhuman tier. His grandma who was 16 at the time ran into the woods in her nightgown when she heard the Russians were approaching (it was winter) and survived on leaves and snow for three days until they moved on. The Russians also took literally everything because what's yours is mine comrade.

Basically the nazis were bad but the Soviets were heinous

>>64096663
I had an old relative who was ethnically polish, he used to say that if you weren't jewish then rule under the germans wasn't that bad as long as you did what you were told, but absolutely unbearable under the soviets so he escaped and legally wasn't a person while hopping around in the 3rd world for about 20 years

>>64085678 (OP)
>thread about warcrimes commited by arab savages
>turns into muh nahtzees within ten posts

Oh yeah, nazi derangement syndrome going strong after 80 years

>>64085959
That's happening right now.

>>64096152
here's your shekel mister goldbladstein

>>64097725
that's when you know JIDF is active, you can pinpoint their working hours just by looking at the thread

>>64097725
>thread about fascists crying about losing to africans, making dubious claims of war crimes
>How did the conversation become about Nazi war crimes? It must have been the jews.

>>64085866
This order from general Juin proved to be fake. French colonial troops raped, of course, like every nigger troops does at war (like the US army rear troops) but it was not as widespread than italians pretend. It was mostly propaganda.

>>64085693
No, it's the turkish grey wolves and other who are, orally and anally, raping kurdish young boys as well as uncorrupt turkish youngters.

So, it are the the turkish grey wolves thug of the regime who are home*sexual

>>64085678 (OP)
>Do mercenaries from 3rd world
No, colonial troops were regular troops

>>64085678 (OP)
Victors should be allowed to rape and loot and exterminate. Lack of this is why modern wars are not fought to victory.

Mercy preserves the enemy. All conquered peoples should be exterminated so the fight ends permanently.

>>64085959
Soon this will be easy to duplicate via local AI for gooning purposes. What was good enough for Roman legions should be good enough for anyone else.