Thread 64089371

monke is going to try and D-Day the southern island portion of Kherson city soon

can he do it?

they'll just bomb and bombard it until there's nothing left like they've done elsewhere.

>>64089371 (OP)
Through what means? Bridges that stay up long enough to move the number of troops required to assault/occupy a city of that size are just begging to be HIMARS'd, and it genuinely seems like any Russian amphibious AFV/marines who might be trained in this sort of thing were wasted in meat assaults long ago

>>64089371 (OP)
With what?

would be quite retarded to do it now, when they retreated they controlled a much bigger area and had a bridge that could at least move troops on foot across.
the ukrainians did the same thing and were stuck in the suburbs of the town opposite kherson, they were a nuisance to the russians for some time but as you can guess supplying troops in these conditions is really hard.

>>64089385
Lots of temu boats. Millions of them will die but Russians seem to like dying

>>64089371 (OP)
KILL THEM ALL. MAY THE INVADERS BE BUTCHERED TO ATOMS WITH RIGHTEOUS FURY.

>>64089388
Who the fuck knows, but it will probably look like B-roll from Waterworld within a week or two

>>64089391
Don’t forget that Ukrainian controlled side is some 200 meters elevated compared to Russian side and controls a large city there it will be infinitely harder to support such operation.
There likely won’t be any attempt to take it, try to control uninhabited islands resulted in “disappearance” of several Russian brigades and no control of them, this one will just be much, much worse if attempted

>>64089388
russia does this:
>bomb and bombard everything
>small groups of infiltrators
>drones everywhere to suppress everything, which also facilitates the infiltrators
they don't rely on large numbers troops anymore

russian aviation is doing all the work now, and ukraine needs more fighters to have a chance of stopping it.

>>64089405
with what artillery
been done hundreds of time
lmao

>>64089412
russia still has an artillery advantage, but it's not the biggest issue. it's the glide bombs. without the glide bombs, russia wouldn't be able to advance.

sam systems aren't enough to stop it, because drones + iskander can get sam systems.

ukraine needs a lot more f-16s.

>>64089405
THIS NIGGA THINKS CROSSING WATER IS LITERALLY LIKE WALKING ACROSS THE FIELD LMAO

>>64089420
>russia still has an artillery advantage
no they're not and the reason kherson have not yen been flatten i mean liberated because artillery brigade couldn't push deep enough without risking being attacked by drones
>glide bombs
a meme
>just spam iskander and drones bro
lmao
i should have noticed that you are a shitposter the moment you said
>they don't rely on large numbers troops anymore

>>64089405
So anyway, how are you planning to deliver those infiltrators?

>>64089371 (OP)
>we didn't get dollar store D-Day in Odesa
>monke decided to do it in Kherson instead
I am so ready to see heaps of slaughtered cuckniks and piles of burnt equipment again

>>64089431
if you don't learn how opfor behaves, you'll never be able to counter them. russia has been doing the same thing time after time, and they keep on steadily advancing using the exact same tactics.

>>64089371 (OP)
>competent militaries take heavy casualties during well planned and equipped landings
>Russia is going to attempt a landing
Please let this happen.

>>64089448
Why didn’t it work single time on other Kherson islands?

How far has Ukraine's territorial fortification progressed in three years?

>>64089448
>exact same tactics.
can meatwave be called a "tactic"? A tactic implies some thought was put into it

>>64089440
MOAR DEATH
MOAR KILLING
MOAR SLAUGHTER
MOAR DESTRUCTION
MOAR MASSACRE
MOAR CARNAGE
MOAR BLOODSHED
MOAR BUTCHERY
MOAR ANNIHILATION
MOAR DEVASTATION

MAY ALL OF THE INVADERS BE SLAIN HAPLESSLY AND CONTINUE THEIR STRUGGLE FOR ALL ETERNITY IN THE VERY DEEPEST BOWELS OF HELL.

>cross one of the widest rivers in europe
>after that take on a big urban area of a few hundred thousand when towns of 10000 already take 16 months for russia to conquer

>>64089388
they will swim across the river for glorious mother pozzia

>>64089448
all I am seeing is vatniks getting slaughtered left and right for a couple of cow pastures

vatnikstan controls much, MUCH less of ukraine then they did three years ago kek

>>64089448
10km a year in a localized area small enough individual houses are visible on satellite imagery isn't a steady advance. 10km a year on the entire LCC wouldn't be a steady advance.
>learn from opfor
The only lesson here is that russia is too incompetent to do anything but reduce an area to rubble and die by the thousands until they can finally get close enough to force the defenders to withdraw. They can't establish air superiority, all their bombs are being released over territory they control. They aren't using anything remotely close to infiltration tactics, they're sending out meat to die, bombing where they think the fire came from, and repeating until the fire is reduced enough for them to risk rolling forward a wave of what they consider actual soldiers.
>well they could do it to an island
Man, the thought of russia trying to take an island in the middle of a river at the tail end of their logistics train when they can't even ford a stream right next door to their own border makes Khorne's panties wet. If you thought 14:1 was a murderous casualty rate, wait until it's 140:1. They also have a finite amount of aviation. If that's the only way they have left of advancing, what happens to every other area of the front when they shift its focus?

>>64089371 (OP)
What's your source for this?

>>64089399
I like them dying too, lets make this happen

>>64089403
not even attempting is certainly the most logical decision but russian generals are incompetent and retarded so i wont put it past them.
they could've won this war 10 times over with the amount of resources they had

>>64089371 (OP)
>>64089399
Please God make it happen. The river would unironically turn red.

>>64089638
https://youtu.be/X1sh7NQGkJs?si=WM4tYNSp6DcmDcBZ

denys but he's right, they are targetting the bridges there pretty hard core

They'll probably do something retarded like this when Putin meets Trump

>>64089749
He said "this month or the next one." Is September late enough for the water to start getting cold?

It takes them two years to capture the town of bumfuckistan, nowhere (pre-war population of 2000), but this is somehow feasible?

>>64089777
bless ant trips will it

>>64089385
>Bridges that stay up long enough to move the number of troops required to assault/occupy a city of that size are just begging to be HIMARS'd

The President and I are pleased by the progress the Ukrainian army is making. Russians are trying their best building a very long bridge out of wood. The Ukrainians and Winnie the Pooh look positively into the 2030s because of the unintelligent actions their enemies do.

>>64089371 (OP)
AAAAAAAHHH~ I-I'M GOING TO PONTOOOOOOOOON!!!

I believe they would eventually be able to achieve this only because no one wants to arm Ukraine any more and Russians quite literally will waste bodies until resources deplete enough.

>>64089385
>bridges
for what purpose? bridges are so 2022. in 2025 you just send over a steady stream of meat in rubber dinghies to replace the ones that get dewormed

>>64089405
Well yes, on any other direction that is somewhat correct, but there's a fucking river in the way here.

>>64090060
you're making the assumption that traditional logistics apply here. if mobiks are single use items, you don't have to worry about that. just throw them forward, any of them that make it across will entrench and fight until they are out of ammo/water/food, keep repeating this until sufficient mass is built up on the other side of the river to force the Ukrainians to pull back

>>64089388
>>64089399
BEHOLD!

THERE IS NOT AN OBSTACLE IN EXISTENCE THAN GLORIOUS RUSSIAN TECHNOLOGY CANNOT OVERCOME

>hurr durr what if they get shot or drones while paddling across?!
the NAFO troon says...

We simply keep sending waves until enough corpses have accumulated to create a pontoon bridge.

>>64090064
So what happens when this critical level is never achieved and Russians run out of boats?

>>64090064
Mobiks aren't the ones taking ground. Mobiks are the ones dying en masse to allow the fifth or sixth or tenth wave of somewhat professional troops to creep up on bombed out ruins and claim them. It only works because constant assaults on a daily basis wear down defenders prevents rotation and resupply. If there's not that constant ground pressure the defenders can do things like relocate, reinforce, and conduct search and destroy ops on any meat still in the area. The planes can't be overhead 24/7, and trying to send trickles of men across a river is just going to give the fish AIDs. There's no "entrench and starve to death until critical mass is reached". Again, tail end of russian logistics and requires their strike aircraft to not be anywhere else on the line. The meat may be expendable but the troops that actually take and hold ground need shit like food, fuel, and ammo. They're also not going to have any heavy support with them. It also means those strike aircraft have to be based closer to the front to have any actual efficacy of time on target. While the west may be unwilling to let any good shit hit inside russia proper they have no problem with it being used in occupied territories. Remember Hotel Chornobaivka? Now imagine that every day russia tries to put planes and armaments outside Crimea. There's an extremely good reason they only fly sorties well inside their own AD envelope.

>>64089400
>MAY THE INVADERS BE BUTCHERED TO ATOMS
I saw a documentary called Fantasia where this doesn't go too well

>>64090114
>We simply keep sending waves until enough corpses have accumulated to create a pontoon bridge.
Curse those russian geniuses, borrowing corpse infrastructure tactics from the iran-iraq war!

>>64089371 (OP)
>can he do it?
Will probably just raze it to the ground.
Slav logic is retarded from both ukros and ruskies. Ukros digg inna city sealing its fate, Ruskies just can't go around, nope they have to go straight through it...
I feel sad for people that built all that so retards can now fuck it up.

>>64089371 (OP)
if they think they have enough disposables to try this they probably do have enough to succeed
their requisite force estimation has improved over the last 3 years

>>64090262
the people who built it are dead in reality and in essence too
the only people who could rebuild it if the war were to end rather invest in a growing continent instead of a dead end

>>64089399
>comes with cope cage preinstalled
Dubs confirm

>>64090262
Дeды cтpoили , a внyки лoмaют

>>64090262
>dig in a city sealing its fate
It's almost like urban combat is a fucking Geigeresque nightmare for attackers that can't into manuever warfare or air superiority. Bomb this block into rubble and lose hundreds of men to take it, rinse and repeat until there's nothing left isn't a good strategy. They could always go home, nothing is stopping russia from just leaving.

>>64089371 (OP)
Wtf is Puccian?

>>64090211
>Mobiks are the ones dying en masse to allow the fifth or sixth or tenth wave of somewhat professional troops to creep up on bombed out ruins and claim them.
bullshit. the russians have no real way of predicting when and where an infiltration will succeed. they throw trash forward, the ukrainians kill most of it with drones, but not all. the ones that got to their target position try to entrench. subsequent waves get sent to reinforce and resupply the new position, which still take heavy casualties. if the ukrainians can't kill them all in a couple of days eventually reinforcements and resupply start accumulating, allowing them to stage further attacks deeper into the rear of the forward ukrainian fighting positions, necessitating a withdrawal.

the casualty rates are too high and too random for any kind of deliberate mix to make much sense. both ukrainian and russian lines are very porous, with small, widely dispersed fighting positions. advancing is mostly a game of statistics and willingness to take heavy losses while in the rear drone operators rush to adapt and improve their respective kill rates.

>>64090316
Destroyed city is real loss here. Like no matter who wins in the end city is still home for its residents.
Imagine if French dug up in the Paris... It's a stupid slav tactics & muh Stalingrad.

Anyone have that image showing Russian cell phone location data during their retreat from Kherson?

>>64090263
https://m.economictimes.com/nri/work/russia-to-import-1-million-skilled-workforce-from-india/articleshow/122437135.cms
Lol. Lmao even. But hey, watching another million serfs mulched so Tsar Monke can stay on the golden toilet another year sounds great.
>that source is shit
Yes. But the article appears on hundreds of other, equally smelly sites and I'm certain you're well acquainted with it already.

>>64090342
:3 one of my personal faves

>>64090342
>>64090352
how dumb are you people

>>64090364
How mad are you?

>>64090262
>have to go straight through it
This more than anything else is what confuses me about the slavic warfare mindset. Even the ukies did it with their offensive and it ended disasterously

>>64089371 (OP)
>the southern island portion of Kherson city
why?
ziggers cant swim
and even if they take it
so what?
like actually, how would that benefit them at all?

>>64090461
Shorter pontoooooon to the next leg, still a great way to get mulched lol

>>64089371 (OP)
god i hope they try again, it's been a minute since we saw something fun.

>>64089371 (OP)
>the southern island portion of Kherson city soon
>go to maps
>zoom out
>keep going
>a bit further...
>measure distance from crimea
>85km
>85km of mostly farm land
fucking hell
side note, did we ever get Oleshky Sands kino or did they just go around it?

>>64090517
What's the water level like in the Dnieper now that the Kakhovka reservoir is no more?

>>64089371 (OP)
With what? How would they even assemble for the operation without catching absolute hell for it? The Ukrainians would see that coming weeks out with how much prep and manpower it'd need to even have a chance at succeeding. The Russians can barely gain ground WITHOUT having to cross a little under half a mile of river to do it. A river crossing would be mass suicide for Russia and require minimal effort for Ukraine to stop.

>>64089382
The best I'd expect is more Shahed spam. Getting the required arty in position would also put that arty at risk of getting smacked in transit. Every dead tube is a major loss at this point and the Ukrainians would undoutedly take full advantage of knowing what the Russians are up to.

>>64089420
>slav language to refer to guided bombs
This bomb spam was tiring in 2024 already

>>64090333
But the French did fortify Paris, multiple times in history. They didn't in WW2 because they were deliberately trying to avoid having the city destroyed but they were already beaten at that point. Look at what the Germans did in 44-45 retreating on both fronts. Cities have always been a motherfucker to take throughout history and they have universally favored the defender. Russia has already proven they'll bomb hospitals, theaters, shopping centers, parks, cafes, and children's schools that aren't even close to the front. Or is your argument Ukraine should just retreat anytime russia gets near a city and let them do whatever they want to it?
>>64090618
The temporal anomaly hungers for more russian airframes.

>>64089867
no, water takes awhile to heat up in the spring/early summer and takes awhile to cool in the late summer/fall so the average water temp in Kherson doesn't go below 60F until mid October
https://weatherspark.com/m/97401/9/Average-Weather-in-September-in-Kherson-Ukraine#Figures-Temperature

might save a few of them but with Russia's water crossing history in this war I don't think it matters much

>>64089448
>steadily advancing

>>64089420
>ukraine needs a lot more f-16s.
They're getting Belgium's now.
Today, one arrived at a base in a third country where Ukraine's pilots are being trained, to start conversion training

>/k/ already given up on the eastern front
Sad

>>64090949
>already
It's been almost 4 years
>given up
They haven't even taken the donbas

>dude we will take Kherson like we're taking those villages!
>we will just send small infiltration units across river until we have more soldiers in Kherson than Ukraine has and we will just take over it!!!
>how we will transport 100-200k troops needed for this operation? Well, we will use that single railway that in range of Ukrainian drones that can and do blow up our supply trains going over it
>also we will supply munition, artillery, food, reinforcements there using same train tracks
>then we will deploy artillery on low ground, in marshfields or open fields because enemy has major highground advantages and there's nowhere to hide it
>our drones will blow out the sun, even though height advantage and city means Ukrainian drone teams won't need repeaters and it will be much easier to track our own drone teams
>then we will assemble our troops right on op river bank(they will never see them coming) and launch their boats across
>those boats will make through, because they are carrying infiltrators that give them +2 to stealth checks
>then they will storm the beaches and capture ground, after they capture beachhead now our infiltrators won't be blown up crossing the river, because it's now already captured land
Don't you see, it's that easy

>>64090325
"R" is "P" in Russian => Pussian.
And "S" is "C" in Russian => Puccian.

>>64090545
remember there being a report of some flooding there earlier this year at one point during one of the russian trench plagues that made things worse for a bit. know that the reservoirs were moderating some seasonal floods so we can probably expect that to fuck with everyones logi in the area if either side starts something. place looks like it's drained a lot more, but that the water's flowing a lot faster which might fuck with any crossings

>>64089399
It'll be like Crossing the Volga in CoD, but they'll all be riding Banana Boats.

https://youtu.be/nv2ONRJ9tMQ

>>64089440
I'm willing to bet they're only pulling this off if they can get the commie Koreans into Ukraine.

>>64089371 (OP)
The ukrainian front will collapse in a few months as ukies are running out of people and tools of war. Is what the vatniggs believe so they throw in all they have. You can google it. No idea if it's true or not.

>>64089431
strap gliding kits on them and lob them in the island's general direction
ez pz

>>64090542
>Oleshky Sands kino
I doubt it, given how quickly the rest of left-bank Kherson fell to the Russians (inb4 that autist who can't handle left-bank/right-bank shows up again)

>>64089478
We've got to do something about you moderates

>>64090263
You've been kind of saying this all through out the thread, but the fact of the matter is that you are seriously underestimating the distance they would have to cross, the complete lack of armoured support which means a HMMWV or a Bushmaster could just roll up and gun down any survivors with impunity, let alone an actual IFV and the complete lack of resupply if by some miracle some of them are able to survive for more than two days on the other-side.
The only thing going for them is that the Black Sea has pretty much non-existent tides, so the estuary won't suck half the landing force out to fucking sea when they inevitably cock-up the timings.

>>64089382
It seems they're already trying that.

so russiya sent 500+ men to the meat grinder for scorched land? at the risk of being equal to poojeets online? asking Best korea for help?
how will they ever come back from this? Unless Trump basically gifts ukraine and denies nato for them its so over.

>>64091191
Trumps about to sanction Russia into oblivion. It's over.

the great equalizing of ziggers=poojeets will be legendary, theres no coming back from that.
BRICS (except for china) is imploding, DIVINE JUSTICE

>>64089440
>equipment
yeah, good luck with that

>>64091153
They have been saying this for years now. It is sunken cost fallacy.

>>64090064
>you're making the assumption that traditional logistics apply here
Well yes, but only because they do you absolute fucking retard.
>one side has large numbers of well supplied troops
>other side is supplied by floating drone bait

>>64091240
I remember Pringles feeding them stories that Bakhmut is last line of defense of Ukraine, that after Bakhmut there was not a single trench, minefield or fortified position and they will walk till Dnipro unopposed

>>64089371 (OP)
what does the city actually look at right now?
I don't think I have seen an update on Kherson since the flood.

what does the city actually look like right now?
I don't think I have seen an update on Kherson since the flood.

>>64089478
Man, Milfeulle really changed in the later seasons.

>>64089420
>ukraine needs a lot more f-16s
Should have given them jets in 2023. Now it's too late.

>>64089420
Hmmm
>>64091491

>>64091524
Yes the west waited way to long with tanks and planes to not anger putin.. stupid idiots.

>>64089371 (OP)
Why doesn't Russia open up a new front and focus on the eastern part of the Kharkov region?
It really close to Russian logistic centers and it would force Ukraine to move troops away from Donetsk. Ukraine HAS to protect Kharkov and judging from their response at Vovchansk they would be committed to protecting the region

>>64091118
banan?

>>64091153
It's kinda amusing they took that angle and then had to hide their own demographic stats.
Also vatniks telling they just genocided Ukraine defeats the entire point of "having the little russians back", nevermind there is no raw resource within Ukraine territory they didn't already had.

>>64091555
Because they can't. If you ask yourself why russia isn't doing anything except throwing meat into the grinder to capture rubble in Donbass, that's your answer. The last time they tried they lost the ability to effectively respond to a counter invasion in Kursk. They had to have the Norks push the Ukranians out.

>>64091108
I refuse to even acknowledge the made-up alphabet of cyr*l and method*us.

>>64089371 (OP)
Hmmmmm... Russia and water, what fucking brand new level of hellish disaster will this be?
Russia+Water=Disaster

>>64090064
Ok but none will make it so now what?

>>64091196
what is there left to sanction

>>64089405
>they don't rely on large numbers troops anymore
I like how the shills always frame it as 'innovation' and not 'crippling shortages'.

>>64089420
There's lies, there's damned lies, and then there's claiming Russia is capable of doing SEAD/DEAD operations.

>>64089777
Checked and kekked

>>64089448
You are 'correct' but not in the way you want to be. Russia is winning but at such a slow and pathetically high cost that eventually they'll hit a point where they can't advance anymore due to losses mounting of both personnel and equipment.
>oh they'll just make more
on a crumbling economy? Sure, but that'll hit FAR harder at home when the time comes to rebuild the civilian economy
>they'll just hire/conscript more men, and they're lower or uneducated so it's a good loss
Those men work in the factories, farms, shops, civilian logistics, everything that keeps a country moving forward, and they work there BECAUSE they're lower and uneducated, because those jobs are far simpler to do than the people who do have education who won't want to work in those sectors. It's already affected the wheat industry in Russia far more then people realise, choose to realise or simply haven't seen any info on it to know.
>but russia is winning!
Yes, at a cost that isn't worth paying. Whatever 'spoils' they can get from ukraine won't offset the loss of people, equipment, infrastructure and civilian industry offset to keep the military industry going. They've bombed nearly half of what they've taken back to the fucking stone age and the other half is around the early years of the industrial age in terms of what's actually left. Many fields that were used for crops have been decimated and will likely take years to recover into a useable state, basically russia sent tens of thousands to their deaths and many thousands more on top of that to crippling injury for a bombed out hell hole that won't see any real fruit bear for years to come. And that's not even considering the potential for further civilian resistance and rebellion from the, all of a sudden for NO REASON AT ALL (being cased in feb 2022) civilian and ex-military populace having weapons, training and drive to fuck up russians. This entire war is an extreme exercise in Russian idiocy

What are they putting in the water in Russia where people just go along with this? The high causalities in the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan helped topple the Soviet government but the losses were a fraction of how many people Russia is losing in Ukraine over the past few years.

>>64089371 (OP)
Operation Zapp Brannigan looks like every other Russian battle plan in this war. Sending wave after wave into the meatgrinder until they "win."
It's pretty clear that they intend to take Ukraine at any human cost, so it's only a question of economic cost that could dissuade Putin now.

>>64092694
Russians have always been this way. It's ironic that they hate the Brits so much because in many ways they have the same mindset.
The serfs aren't going to turn on their betters.

>>64092675
> Russia is winning but at such a slow and pathetically high cost that eventually they'll hit a point where they can't advance anymore due to losses mounting of both personnel and equipment.
not even that
wars aren't fought to kill the other guy, they are fought to achieve goals. killing the other guy is just the cheaper way of achieving said goals compared to the alternatives.
the goals that russia set out to achieve, regime change by installing a stooge.
breaking Ukrainian identity
securing more of it's border behind defensible natural features and creating a buffer state
those can't be achieved by mere strength of arms any more
as such russia can't win this war because the goals it set out to achieve aren't possible anymore. at this point they are just digging deeper into a massive sunk cost fallacy.
it's even worse their NATO at home has been proven to be useless with the russians being unable to stop a war fought between two members.
it's achieved the inverse of what it wanted by promoting NATO expansion and they in turn have opened up an other possible invasion route straight into it's heartland.
all it can do is keep grinding ever forward paying more in blood and treasure than the ground they are taking will ever be worth. just so they can try and enforce a border that no longer serves it's purpose due to their own fuck up.
there is no more winning for them just the hope of a draw that isn't worth even a tenth of what it has cost them

>>64091196
Nah, he extended the deadline again.

Anyone got the updated America invading Mexico copy pasta, thank you in advance

>>64091555
they've tried recently, didn't work

>>64092694
late Soviet Russia was a relatively open, healthy society. It's now basically Stalinist / Tsarist again, it's natural shitty default

>>64089388
>>64089399

>>64092940
what are they doing

>>64092951
Slavs get weird when they come into contact with large bodies of water.

>>64092744
Nigger are you stupid?
Bongoloids abolished serdom very early, created rights for their peoples very early and are the basis of liberal freedoms we have today

>>64092951
The boats attempt to mount one another in order to determine dominance of the herd.

>>64089371 (OP)
>monke is going to try and D-Day the southern island portion of Kherson city soon
Nope, teh Ukranians wipes out the observation radars and electronic warfare for the hole region with a large SF ambibious insertion

The Ukranians own the initiative in that region entirely now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnTLgk181x8

>>64091196
TACO

>>64092518
Complete ban on russian oil exports and 200% tariffs on anyone who will keeps buying them.

>>64092518
10% Tariff on disciplinary anal rape

>>64093009
https://youtu.be/RbLrdKSG5i8?si=e6HkKrgE9SFbqZK-

>>64089371 (OP)
>be pozzian colonel
>mafia provides mobiks in exchange for their sign-in bonus and inevitable death bonus
>don't report deats, all mobiks are officially MIA
>mafia gets angry and starts probing your anus about reporting more deaths so the cash flows
>mr schoigu won't like it one bit
>idea
>what is the best way to get rid of mobiks body
>starting next week meat assaults will be carried by swimming across large bodies of water
>bodies drift into black sea
>literally what mobiks this guys never showed up in my unit :^)
>get raped by mafia
>get raped by GRU for being raped by mafia

>>64093009
Not happening. Seriously, it's just Trump posturing. he's not going to alienate Chinks over Ukraine. I was pleasantly surprised he even dared to talk badly about Monke. That's as far as he is willing to go. Notice how immidiately after his first harsh words aimed at Russia he sent Witkoff (aka Putin's cocksucker premium) to negotiate and surprise surprise Witkoff came back with "great deal": Russians keep the land, all sanctions removed, no war reparations. And Trump and his team are absolutely happy about that. Putin did the least he could, that is stopped unhinged and unrealistic rambling about Ukrainian demilitarization and that was enough for Trump's team to accept him again.

>>64089371 (OP)
yeah i do it all the time

i spawn 100 chrono ivans along with 100 apocalypse tanks and engage the iron curtain

quickest way to win

>>64093213
People still think Trump is playing 8D chess when he wants to give Russia a ceasefire but not an end to the war, recognition of Russia's gains (not sure if they mean just the physical gains or the 4 oblasts they say are theirs with 2 not under anywhere near full control) and lifting all the sanctions lmao.

>>64093289
Russia's been pretty adamant about getting the entire territory of the four oblasts they annexed, whether the Witkoff/Trump are literate enough to understand that is an open question.

>>64092951
They thought they saw a Japanese torpedo boat.

>>64089371 (OP)
Probably not, will probably just attack and semi-encircle another depopulated and irrelevant town somewhere and after 6-9 months of fighting cause neither side can do much besides have a battalion or two maneuver a few hundred meters/ kilometers at a time. Then set town becomes a rubble, both side call it a strategic victory and nothing changes

>>64089440
>we didn't get dollar store D-Day in Odesa

I am STILL angry that the landing force commander made the smart move and called it off at the last moment. It would have been so glorius to witness oceanic TZD.

>>64091555
Because that would be something bigger than a few battalions/regiment level tactical maneuvers which is beyond their logistical or planning capabilities

>>64090831
>is your argument Ukraine should just retreat anytime russia gets near a city and let them do whatever they want to it?

There really are faggots here who expect Ukraine to do exactly that. They would love nothing more if the entire AFU walked across the Polish border and watched as Russia took the entire country (and somehow would still take unfathomable and completely preventable losses)

>>64090913
what happens to all that wreckage, does it sit there until the end of war or will one side try to recycle it?

>>64094898
The worst part is people against Ukraine for simply defending themselves. Seriously some brain dead retards with those takes

>>64092951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4gyjVUwn3o

>>64093213
>Witkoff (aka Putin's cocksucker premium)

I hate that fucking guy so much

>>64094898
>There really are faggots here who expect Ukraine to do exactly that.
Thanks for reminding me of this gem.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/

>>64092977
Yeah, the modern Brits sure aren't turbo cucked serfs who watch their country slip further into an Orwellian nightmare every day and do nothing about it.
You fucking moron.

>>64094865
what made him change his mind?

>>64095973
He heard about the shit show that was going on everywhere else

>>64092940
bulk and skull theme.mp3

>>64089371 (OP)
I dont see why not

>>64090262
>Ukros digg inna city sealing its fate
cities are good paces to set up a defense what else should they be doing?

>>64095973
He sobered up briefly.

>>64091153
its pure copium from the zegroid mindset due to them having the king of all useful idiots agents orange to play around with. Since in their slave-master world there is no possible way for ukranians to have any agency on their own they think the war is now won since america is in a fit of schizophrenia right now. Anyway all you should ever spam to their copium is

>TWO MORE WEEKS and the donkeys will have kyiv in sight zizter
>trust the plan
>Z

>>64094865
>>64095973
real answer is that the marines supposed to do the temu D-day threatened to mutiny on the boats since they knew it was a suicide run. after all these years you really think any zigger ""officer"" gives jack and shit if they are all slaughtered on the beaches?

>>64092754
you're so silly. here ill just tell you what the current russian gameplan is, they want odesa. They want to capture odesa because doing so is a twofold benefit, for one, they then control the black sea and cut ukraine's ability to export through it, crippling its economy. Second, they then have a free transport line into moldova where their troops are stationed. This is good because you then have surrounded western ukraine, able to attack kyiv from the south, east from the dnipro, and north from belarus where they currently are massing forces, it turns ukraine into one big pincer. Dnipropetrovsk oblast is their secondary objective, capturing it gives Russia the fields where 1/3 of the worlds food gets grown. This is good because you then are responsible for feeding Africa, and whoever brings food to Africa gets to mine rare earths in exchange. Russia then has oil to sustain the war machine, food for its people (although this is secondary), and rare earth minerals for building drones. On top of all this they then have the manpower to back it up. Once Ukraine falls from having its economy crippled and its manpower drained against russian forces, as well as being surrounded militarily, Russia then is in an absolutely fine position again to attack the baltics and poland, and we have WW3

>>64090265
What is this wank?

>>64095253
Leftism is a consequence of French "Revolution", specifically the Jacobins/Montagards. What an utter disaster not to have been crushed immediately.
The English have been a constitutional monarchy since the 1600s, and even then, Western peasantry never plumbed the depths of the serfdom of Russia, which frankly never went away. Central and Western Europeans had a middle class by the 1500s.

>>64092977
>>64096344

>>64094865
I heard Ukraine was able to hit a ship by blindfiring Grads out of Odessa.

>>64096228
To be fair, zigger grunt seems not to care to being slaughtered like lemmings on the fields either

>>64096393
They had anti ship missiles and anti ship drones within a month of the war starting. monkies got spooked due to the complete collapse of their logistics on land and actually made the correct decision to call off z-day. They then had all naval plans shelved permanently when Ukraine made a show of force and started to actually use these weapons on black sea targets.

It would have been so bad, thousands of soldiers dumped south of Odessa in the middle of the night with barely any food or equipment. Watching their transport ships the next morning get blown up by missiles one by one as they leave for more supplies. There would never be any more Russian ships.
Any survivors after two weeks of complete abandonment would high tail it to Transnistria and desert

>worst news about the Russian strategic position deteriorating since pretty much ever (the 3 day joke was tactical)
>go to check if /k/'s talking about it
>it's just nafo retard propaganda
Damn guys even when you win you lose.

Anyhow the Russians will probably go ahead and try to occupy Korabel for the sake of saying they're giving something up when they negotiate. There will be no real attempt on Kherson it's geopolitical theater. Look at what bridges they're blowing up kek then it's easy to see their intention.

>>64096532
>worst news about the Russian strategic position deteriorating
qrd?

>>64096532
>there will be no attempt on kherson
imagine being a russian conscript dying in the bog outside kherson rn for "geopolitical theater". Odesa is an obvious target, you're saying they're going to launch a seaborne attack on it from crimea? Sounds like fake news, they'd probably rather just have a Z-day at kherson and then another at mikholaiv. But they're not abandoning Odesa as a target, that's basically their only viable option and they're more of a fan of meatwaves than sea ops this war.

>>64096532
>worst news about the Russian strategic position deteriorating since pretty much ever
Is this about the trains getting hit?

>>64093213
Well Witkoff did it again

>>64098769
and it wouldn't matter again

>>64098769
Genuinely not surprised.

>>64089371 (OP)
well the vdv wont be involved. they suck my cunt