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Anonymous No.64092196 >>64092199 >>64092214 >>64092229 >>64092246 >>64092300 >>64092320 >>64092340 >>64092350 >>64092353 >>64092364 >>64092376 >>64092456 >>64092592 >>64092719
What conditions led to modern warfare developing this way?
Anonymous No.64092199 >>64092243
>>64092196 (OP)
the collapse of the soviet union owing to decades of mismanagement
Anonymous No.64092214 >>64092231 >>64092243 >>64092281 >>64092304 >>64092710
>>64092196 (OP)
Western Autism, homosexuality, a lot of Busch 30 packs, and the occasional key bump (or 3) in the port-a-shitter. I'm not even joking when I say this.
Anonymous No.64092226 >>64092318
which part? at a certain point technological gaps can not be filled with grit. its more a symptom of the actions of individual soldiers counting for very little now, its more about the electronics he operates or the vehicle he drives than how skilled or motivated he is. recruitment ads are downstream of culture and aren't really relevant to the discussion, like our best tech (apaches, m1s, drones, thermals, etc) is from the 90s or early gwot when we had the volcano dragon ads, and the faggot shit we have for ads now is just living on that legacy.
Anonymous No.64092229 >>64092251 >>64092294
>>64092196 (OP)
The hybrid clique formed out of the KGB and late Soviet prison gangs could not effectively govern the Russian Federation.
Anonymous No.64092231
>>64092214
That makes it sound like a bad thing, yet the ruskies are unable to defeat it?
Anonymous No.64092243 >>64092406
>>64092199
The Russian army has always been extremely poor, it was in the 19th century and WW1 and for most of the cold war it mainly shot civlians. They have alayws treated their soldiers as subhumans and considered them completely expendable. Its not a winning strategy,. Fu fact that is never stated, If it had nit been for the British, Poles, Americans, Free French, Australians, New Zealanders Russia would defnitely have lost the war it started as a German Ally during the invasion of Poland. Russia has always had amiserable quality of education and health and a poorly run military.They have always used blocking forces and field exeution, cosciption etc instead of morale and training.

Dictators can't affort armies composed of men who have principles, guts or too much ability, especially in leadership roles.

>>64092214
>Western Autism, homosexuality,
Oh Did the west 'invent' homosexuality now?
Anonymous No.64092246 >>64092297
>>64092196 (OP)
Well, several million years ago humanity's ancestors began to walk upright which allowed the hands to differentiate from the feet, becoming specialized for grasping and manipulation. This along with increased cranial capacity lead to our species using tools.
Anonymous No.64092251 >>64092294
>>64092229
>The hybrid clique formed out of the KGB and late Soviet prison gangs could not effectively govern the Russian Federation.
This person knows their shit
The Bitch Wars gave us the current Russian executive, the thieves in law and the fsb are the same people.
Anonymous No.64092281
>>64092214
>le ebin manly based and trad russians are getting obliterated by Western homosexual autism
lmao
Anonymous No.64092294 >>64092365 >>64092605
>>64092251
>>64092229
this video is required viewing for the subject

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF9KretXqJw&t=16s&ab_channel=fin_topsu
Anonymous No.64092297
>>64092246
The theory of evolution is a Jewish conspiracy meant to push man further away from the loving arms of Christ. Also, post guns.
Anonymous No.64092300
>>64092196 (OP)
nato planners being a position where they needed to figure out how to blunt a massive warsaw pact attack without just nuking everything in sight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSukv1CcORk
Anonymous No.64092304 >>64092444
>>64092214
Well lots of engineers and scientists are on the troony spectrum so it makes sense that the better minds are on the right side of history
Anonymous No.64092318
>>64092226
The Taliban had 35 casualties to every coalition casualty. Grit doesn't actually work in a war where both parties view the war as existential, like in Ukraine, it only works if it's existential to the party suffering the casualties but not super meaningful to the other party.
Anonymous No.64092320
>>64092196 (OP)
This is less the result of “feminism good, masculinity bad and weird” and more the result of the inherent inferiority of the Slavic “peoples”. They are degenerates of the highest order, both malicious and completely incompetent when it comes to the practice of law, warfare, and literally everything else. Only ever eking out victories against a western power when accompanied by western support. Their incompetence in governance rivals the monkeys south of the Mediterranean. In short, it’s not that their ideology or strategies are inherently bad, they’re just such a completely inferior group of subhumans that they can’t do anything that would be able to live up to western standards.
Anonymous No.64092340
>>64092196 (OP)
precision weapons, satellites, improvements in optics and communications. to actually respond to the OP rather than shitposting.
basically the most important parts of running a good war got easier and much easier for countries that invested in them heavily, as opposed to countries that doubled down on backwards looking 19th/20th century warfare focused on industrial quantity over quality.

It's also important to note that the major 'modern' wars have taken place in wide open spaces (Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine) as opposed to hellish jungles like 'nam which is a significant factor. A lot of the maneuver warfare that led to the insane casualty ratio and rapid victory in Iraq wouldn't have happened in Vietnam or some African country with tons of jungle just due to terrain. Geography still matters a ton.
Anonymous No.64092350 >>64092360
>>64092196 (OP)
if you replace the character on the left with an american flag and the character on the right with the chinese flag it still works
Anonymous No.64092353
>>64092196 (OP)

Warfare has always been a logistics game, not a matter of individual machismo.

Weird displays of macho bullshit has always been cope for underdeveloped forces to pretend they were on par with their superiors.
Anonymous No.64092360 >>64092370
>>64092350
This has yet to be demonstrated.
Anonymous No.64092364 >>64092375 >>64092381
>>64092196 (OP)
Reason the US hasn't fought a war itself since Iraq 1 is because they used up all the had from the Cold War in the early 90s. From then on the US exclusively can only use foreign mercenaries - whether jihadis or nazis. It's even worse today since the US military is only mutt trannies. Ukrainians may be brainwashed Russians, but they're still Russians which still makes them formidable.

US will never again fight a war itself - it literally can't.
Anonymous No.64092365 >>64092386 >>64092471
>>64092294
>watch a bit of it
Huh. I joked that they saw their leader as some omnipotent being that can do no wrong but I didn't think it was real. Society of sheep.
Anonymous No.64092370 >>64092733
>>64092360
with the amount of fuckups the US navy has made in recent years compared to the chinese navy, i'm inclined to already believe it
Anonymous No.64092375
>>64092364
The US has struggled with counter insurgency and nation building because they don’t want to do what Israel is doing. But they could mop the floor with half the world’s armed forces in a more traditional conflict. No reason they couldn’t pull another Gulf War.
Anonymous No.64092376
>>64092196 (OP)
This asshole and his invention called the rocket

Seriously Nukes? Machine guns? Pffft they can suck a chode nothing has changed war so dramatically as the rocket/missle has
Anonymous No.64092381 >>64092384
>>64092364
Can you """people""" go on second without obsessing about trannies?
Anonymous No.64092384
>>64092381
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Anonymous No.64092386 >>64092391 >>64092398 >>64092508
>>64092365
that was a fairly common view for ordinary people of a nation to have prior to the modern era
the problem is that russian society hasn't really changed meaningfully at all since then so they're stuck in this millennium-old system which isn't capable of improving itself
Anonymous No.64092391 >>64092436 >>64092699
>>64092386
Peasant societies really do fuck a people up. Thats why only China and Russia could have Stalin and Mao. No other countries people would have followed through with their policies.
Anonymous No.64092398
>>64092386
This only makes me think that the war between russia and ukraine will never end because russian society has been indoctrinated. Down to the last cannon fodder.
Anonymous No.64092406 >>64092426
>>64092243
>Oh Did the west 'invent' homosexuality now?
No, we merely perfected it.
Anonymous No.64092426
>>64092406
You merely adopted the faggotry. I was raised in it, groomed by it. I didn't see a naked woman until I was already a man, by then she was nothing to me but a roastie!
Anonymous No.64092436 >>64092557 >>64092699
>>64092391
peasant societies aren't the worst thing in the world, in my opinion
they have strengths in the form of simplicity, clear hierarchy and robustness; they can last for centuries and have easily outlasted virtually every liberal democracy, a system which is supposedly "better", judging by the way things are going
with that being said, peasant societies are at this point an outdated mode of organising society and it really only exists to serve as a "starting point" for a society now so clearly it's not a good system to strive towards

russia is in a bad spot socially because of their geographic location; they're surrounded on all sides by enemies without much natural physical barriers so there's this natural tendency for societies like that to gravitate towards more strongmen-type leaders as they (attempt to) offer the people more security and a safer life from foreign invaders
Anonymous No.64092444
>>64092304
You do know gays, trannies, niggers, etc will all be obliterated in the future, right? Once Jews completely take over the useful idiots will be delt with as well. Unless the golem breaks free.
Anonymous No.64092456 >>64092482 >>64092785
>>64092196 (OP)

Meanwhile in reality
Anonymous No.64092471 >>64092478
>>64092365
Wait, are we talking about Russians here, or a good half of the Americans?
Anonymous No.64092478
>>64092471
Russians. Americans like to shit on leadership and political figures all the time.
Anonymous No.64092482 >>64092785
>>64092456
kek
Anonymous No.64092501
I feel that if you communicate with wojaks you have nothing worth sharing, period. Whichever side of the culture craze you're on, if you post a jak I will not read it.
Anonymous No.64092508
>>64092386
I stand by my assertion that the failure of the Enlightenment in Russia was one of the most important events of the last 200 years.
Anonymous No.64092557
>>64092436
the dog's knowing look at the viewer has a lot of unintentional meaning
Anonymous No.64092592
>>64092196 (OP)
Warfare has always been like this. Not so long ago it was bolt action rifles tearing through Chinese infantry like nothing, a few thousand western troops enough to grind down millions.

Even further in the past it was a handful of Spaniards with a dozen horses toppling empires of millions.

And long before any of that Aryans emerged riding chariots descended upon the sedentary people of the world and battered them into submission.

Technology has always trumped all else. From the moment mankind first sharpened sticks and threw stones, it has been so.
Anonymous No.64092605 >>64092618 >>64092636 >>64092646
>>64092294
No one's watching an hour long lecture in Spanish.
Anonymous No.64092616
If your enemy complains about something being unfair you should probably do it more because you fight a war to win, not to be fair. Using an absurdly expensive plane to drop absurdly expensive bombs/missiles to obliterate some poor fool who has no way to see them coming, avoid it, or generally do anything to affect the course of the very little remainder of his life after the pilot releases the weapons is just about as unfair as it gets and thus a great strategy, which is why everyone (especially the US) invests in it so hard.
Anonymous No.64092618 >>64092638
>>64092605
it's finnish but if you aren't even willing to spend an hour of your time watching one of the most important things you will ever see, then that says a lot about you
Anonymous No.64092636
>>64092605
>he doesn't even speak funish
let me guess you've never read the Silmarilion in the original Quenya
Anonymous No.64092638 >>64092643 >>64092766
>>64092618
The most important thing you'll see is over six hours though, and it's available in English.
Anonymous No.64092643
>>64092638
>greatest story never told

you are latinx from 2016, this is objevivly a not true documentary and I am neutral on hitler. also he killed millions of Whites and lost by 1941
Anonymous No.64092646
>>64092605
>no one
I did. Got any other useless things to add to the thread?
Anonymous No.64092699
>>64092391
>>64092436
don't call russia a peasant society
peasant societies have revolts, rising and all sorts of (violent) protest all the time.
peasants where free farmers and many of them where small land owners. They would set up their own courts, set up schools, gather and manage funds for communal works and building churches.
A true peasant society has the ability to organize it's self from the bottom up and take action towards self improvement. The fading out and finally abandonment of serfdom as a legal concept was done by the peasants (and serfs) in the west.

Russia is a pure serf society.
and not medieval you are tied to the land but still have rights serfdom.
no russian serfs where little better than slaves.
There is no ability in their society to self organize and get things done. All you could and can do is to form a group as to petition your lord, your legal owner to do something for you. they where legally slaves until 1861 that is just two generations from the great war and the revolution. by the time of the soviet revolution they where still de facto slaves kept so by a culture and state made to keep them so. What little liberation the revolution brought was undone by Stalin. The few free years they had after the fall if communism frightened most of them so bad they where begging to be slaves again.
russia is one giant plantation where they pick hydrocarbons for massa. but massa is now just one of them aswell, slaves from bottom to top.
Anonymous No.64092710 >>64092729
>>64092214
My brother in christ, have you ever met the average Russian citizen? Those motherfuckers are almost Finnish levels of autistic.
Anonymous No.64092719
>>64092196 (OP)
>What conditions led to modern warfare developing this way?
The invention of gunpowder. It was a slippery slope.
Anonymous No.64092729
>>64092710
nords and russians are effemianate and very emasculated, nordic and russian women will legit whore out in 10 minutes of meeting you, legit a society with women like that does not and will not survive
Anonymous No.64092733
>>64092370
Didn't the Chinese have like six unaccounted for subs last year? They just aren't publishing their losses because their media is state controlled. You'd notice a bunch of seamen missing in the US.
Anonymous No.64092766 >>64092768
>>64092638

I've watched this and Hellstorm and I still haven't been convinced to join your mustache man cult buddy

Also, obligatory Fuck Ziggers, Fuck the USSR, and Fuck Putin.
Anonymous No.64092768
>>64092766
hitler should be looked at like a roman emperor, not bad or good but a man in his time. It was clear by 1941 that the war was over tho
Anonymous No.64092785
>>64092456
>>64092482
We all know what happens when a western nation takes you seriously in a fight, you end up having to post wojakshit with your toes for the rest of your life.