Thread 64094066

Bonus points for ones that try to seem helpful.

>>64094066 (OP)
the one that was a 22lr pos gun that you were supposed to attach to an ar

>>64094066 (OP)
Anything made by sig since they moved to the states

>>64094066 (OP)
The CMMG .22lr conversion bolt for an AR-15. I've heard they either work or don't work and it's like 50/50 whether they do or not. I got one that didn't work and it pissed me off especially knowing people who got one that worked and they seem to like it a lot. Anyways I'm never getting one again

>>64094417
Aren't all shotshells polymer cased?

>>64094427
Just keep buying uppers till you find one it works with.

>>64094443
Look closer.

Absolute piece of shit saturday night special gang warfare blaster.
>worst trigger on earth
>terrible accuracy from factory
>irons suck (cmon, at least paint the front post)
>started failing to eject within 150 total rounds fired
>started failing to fire within 200 total rounds fired
>after about 200 rounds it's completely dead
I cannot be bothered to open it up to take a look. It has been a piece of shit since the beginning and I'm glad I have an excuse to ditch it. But it was under $200 including tax, bought in a gun store (new, never used), so whatever

>>64094562
>>worst trigger on earth
I've got a contender

>>64094455
I'm looking closer and I don't see whats supposed to be better about these things. They've got an overmolded shell around a rimless brass case head, what's the advantage of that?

>>64094590
nothing like shooting 7.62x54r out of a little ducktown usa .410 pistol lmao

>>64094596
>rimless
that was the main point. The idea was to have them feed reliably out of box mags in an AR-10 platform.

>>64094427
Nothing cmmg makes is good. I see them shilled here semi regularly, and I'm pretty sure they just spend all their budget on marketing and the guns all have substandard metal put in them and don't work for extravagant prices. I bought into their radial delayed PCC meme gun in 45 and it never went through a whole mag without failure, I sent it back to get fixed and when they sent it back to me it still didn't fucking work.

>>64096252
doesnt take genius to be suspect of cmmg... they sling anodized shit. they prob make a lot of their shit from china.

>>64096302
Yeah I fell for it once and learned my lesson. It's annoying because a lot of their stuff really does seem cool and innovative and you would think for what they charge they would make sure it works, but nope it's garbage. Just about any of their products has piles of people complaining about it not functioning.

>>64094401they have those 38mm grenade things that unleash a bunch of .22s at the same time. Those look sweet.

>>64096611
yeah the bee hive or whatever it's called. Fits into a flare launcher. Those actually look pretty cool.

>>64096252
FWIW a guy had one of the 9mm radial delay pistols with the fancy brace that you just yank to extend. Basically set up as it came out of the factory with a red dot. Never heard him have problems with it that range trip and he even let me shoot it after he noticed my rifle and thought it was neat. No jams and pretty smooth. Might've been designed for 9mm first with 45 as an afterthought. Not uncommon for that to happen but can't think of another example. But yes they are pretty fucking expensive. The finish on that thing was nice (some greyish silverish beadblasted look) but it was like $1200.

>>64095852
Sorry, but I love it

>>64095852
Put some effort into it anon.

>>64097168
Yeah it's like the other guy said, they tend to be hit or miss 50/50 but if you spend1700 bucks on a clunker it sucks. Also the 45 came out a year or 2 before the other calibers and it was originally called the "guard" not banshee. I bought an early one so that might have been part of the problem but I still don't trust them.

>>64094417
RAS-12

Is that ratshot for Rodents of Awesome Size?

>>64096359
>CMMG fucking sucks donkey dick

Thanks for the heads up. I was looking at their BR4 Dissent (Commiefornian), balked at the price ($1700) and bought a Mini-14, extra Ruger magazines, and ammunition instead.

You guys remember when Franklin Armory tried to sell smoothbore AR-15s for like 4 grand a pop, and tried to claim that projectiles key-holing at spitting distance was a good thing, because it would do more damage in a home defense situation?

>>64098168
Even the vodkaniggers managed to get this right.

>>64094562
I got a Vrpa40 turkshit shotty for less than $200. No problems. You got hosed man.

>>64098140
Im actually in about the same boat, want a folding 556 gun and I'm leaning towards the Ruger as well. Might go with an ak though

>>64098378
NTA but FWIW the B-TM for the 10/22 is one of my favorite purchases. I have mine set up for hunting and with the QD swivels it works great (one built in the Samson barrel band, one cup QD attached to the back). Only mod I've made to the stock is to shim the screw that screws the rear QD on with a plastic washer IIRC for noise/jiggle reduction. And some fabric tape to stop the dinging and pinging. I'm heavily considering buying a Mini-14 one day to also immediately throw in a Samson stock. Maybe I'll get the 300BO version, who knows. Only reason I say I might get the 300 version is I already silenced the 10/22. Might want a matching bigger game gun also quiet. 50/50 whether it's a great or retarded idea in my head. Gun looks very similar to this but the barrel band is silver and I have the heat shield they strangely left out (no rear sight dovetail wtf?). IDK what kind of fun you can or can't have if you're in California but it's not a bad choice if you can have folders IMO. Minis always felt short to me as-is for whatever reason. Can't imagine one with a folding stock.

>>64098168
300 blackout said hold my beer i can sell stupid better

>>64096252
Older CMMG was apparently good
I looked up the original Mutant and it had great accuracy and everything
Current CMMG guns have handguards that break off

>>64098186
The only reason they could do that is that Lancaster-Type oval-bore rifling, and Paradox-type rifling doesn't legally count as rifling in Vatnikstan.
In the US it does. Even micro-groove rifling with depth measured in nanometers counts, as does straight un-twisted rifling.

>>64098723
I own an "Anvil" which is what they used to call their .458 Socom built on an AR-10 size frame. It's basically the same gun as the Mutant but set up for .458 instead of 7.62x39.
It's been very reliable, has no problem eating full pressure handloads. Accuracy is good, fit and finish is mid-tier. It's not some super nice gucci gun but it works well.

>>64098168
fucking what, no way

>>64094425
t. noguns

>>64097928
we need bigger rats

>>64098822
It..it's....like a ... like a rocket ship... you know...
https://youtu.be/1hkiVc0n_Yg

(Yes, I know it's for the satanic ultra-cuck's channel, but it's a legit good video of Ian making these retards look like utter clowns)

>>64098723
Yeah I think I bought mine right around when they changed, it used to be a boutique parts company most people regarded well then they got into heavy advertising and making shit you would think you want but doesn't work.

>>64098378
>folding 556 gun
A humble suggestion from this korean

>>64098890
Ian reminds me of Jordan petersen

>>64099335
CLEAN YOUR GUN, NOW!

>>64094066 (OP)
" NO plastic guns are great"
But they are not.

>>64099029
I would gladly take that if I could find one for under 2k or they ever release these new ones.

>>64098491
I think they're selling them now with the folding stock already installed, not sure if they do it for the 300 bo models though. Also I seem to recall there being some problems with the 300 bo guns, but I might be misremembering. But do your research first as always

>>64099029
Funny, because that's my choice for 5.56 folding gun if I do go through with getting a 300 Mini (which, hey, Ruger should really call them Mini 300s, kinda like the Mini 30).

>>64100020
Yeah I gotta do further research. Hard to find much on the 300 BO versions. Problem is, though, IIRC a lot of the guys who do have videos on them, for whatever god damn reason, don't silence them. Hell of a review for a gun in a caliber meant to be silenced. Personally I don't care whether the stock is pre-installed or not; the pre-built Ruger 10/22s with the stock aren't the best version of a B-TM themed 10/22 anyways. 16" barrel, irons, threaded, great. But no rear sight dovetail for the specially made heat shield to go with the stock set. Missing the barrel band as well, just includes the Ruger brand one. And only available in blued gun/black hardware or stainless gun/silver hardware. No mix and match colors; I think a stainless receiver, blued barrel, silver band, stainless stock would look SLICK. Ditto the inverse, maybe.

>>64094562
Anon it's a 380. What do you expect? It's a night walker gun.

>>64100054
Im honestly impressed with your specific brand of mini 14 autism. I never noticed these things on the factory made ones before you pointed it out.

>>64100098
I expected it to not have so many malfunctions. I could excuse it being unpleasant to shoot if it was reliable, but it isn't.

>>64094562
Why didn't you just get picrel? It's like 20 dollars more at bass pro

>>64094562
>buys a gun named SPECTRUM
>surprised when the gun is retarded

>>64096252
CMMG were always a bunch of scummy fucks. They used to run the Midwest gun show circuit back in the early 2000s. I almost got burned just from a simple interaction with them at a show once
>trying to offload an Armalite post-ban upper after the AWB sunset
>faggot at the CMMG table wants to look at it
>sure, ok, whatever
>busy myself looking at some of the other rifles and stuff they had
>"so what do can you give me for that upper?"
>"what upper?"
>"the one I handed to you 5 minutes ago"
>"you didn't give me anything"
>"the fuck i didn't, what are you trying to pull here?"
>this goes on for a couple minutes, tell him I'll just go get one of the cops at the door inspecting guns and putting chamber flags in to sort this out
>tone suddenly changes, "magically" finds it under the table
>"huh no idea how it got there"
>yeah fuck you too buddy
Who knows how many times they tried to pull that carny shit on other people. Fuck them, I'd never buy a roll pin from those cocksuckers and have told everyone I know to stay far away.

>>64101061
Jesus Christ. That's pretty low. Takes some balls I guess...

>>64098378
>ultra high numbers of 5.56 rifles with folding stocks in current year +10
>going with a mini 14

>>64098723
Old buddy of mine had a Mutant, his buddy had a Century C39. We were all much more accurate with the C39.

>>64095852
They hated him, for he spoke the truth.

>>64094401
I’m assuming you’re talking about the zip-22, it was a dumbass piece of shit. Not to mention if you attached it to an AR is would technically be an SBR because you attached a pistol to an object (an AR) that has a stock on it or some dumb shit.

>>64098168
It wasn't meant to be good, just a proof of concept loophole exploitation.

>>64100478
Lol thanks. I put my 10/22 together before the factory B-TM models were available. That also meant I had to find a model where iron sights were included with a threaded barrel which was hard (there is or were two, 31113 and a Bass Pro exclusive). Only downside I ended up with was not getting a 16.1" (?) inch barrel like the factory models and instead an 18.5". But I ended up with a much more complete rifle anyways so whatever. Once the factory built 10/22s came out I noticed just how many features they were missing compared to mine since I had to dig through the Samson catalog over and over again while I waited for my 10/22, Samson parts, other improvement parts, etc. Still really don't understand why Ruger or MGE (it's their exclusive model) don't just take that barrel and send them through one more process to give them a dovetail and include the $26 barrel band and a $25 heat shield on a ~$700 10/22 model. Not sure what gun they may have used that barrel on before (IIRC an anniversary model used it) but why skip the dovetail on this model? Also pic does not fit thread, actually the opposite.

>>64096863
There are two, the blind 30m fuze and impact. If you're using it for what it's made for you want the 30m one so you can time it to land at face level in the middle of a bird flock. No it's not good AA.

>>64101061
I legit watched a guy get the boot from a show for this with a whole ass rifle. Well you pick what he tried to steal but after a proceed on the phone he says "Denied, what are you trying to pull here? Are you a felon? NO REFUNDS!". While he was being ejected everyone looted his table walking by. I doubt they let any guns walk but I got mags and 3 first aid packed pouches and I saw people snagging stripper clips and links and shit.

>>64101413
I'm sorry to tell you that If you stick a light on a 1911 which also has a side rail, which you then somehow mount a stock on all out of position... that is not a shoulder stock. It's not in line with the chamber, barrel, or actuating mechanism. You put a stock on a light which has a pistol on it. It's 100% dependent on the pistol grip.

>>64101348
The only ones I can find that seem up to snuff are the mini14 and galil. I'd be happy to hear any suggestions.

>>64101951
Think the ATF would buy that?

>>64098168
Did it also have a C mag because the infinity shape makes ammo infinite

>>64101951
It depends on if the ATF agent reviewing your case has been getting enough pussy lately whether or not this will fly. ATF will absolutely and has taken people to federal court and harassed them fully knowing they were not violating the NFA. Good example is that “black beard” dumbass rifle that they said had a “stock” when all the owner did was place a rubber pad (like one that goes on the bottom of a stool leg) on the buffer tube to make his ar pistol not slip on smooth ground when he set it down. I do agree with what you’re saying but the ATF is full of fat retards who don’t even know how guns work.

>>64102594
Zastava M90, FB Beryl, the BRN-180, CZ Bren, IWI Carmel, AR with that weird folding adapter

>>64102594
>Used ARX
Only concern is the dropped support and the fact that the mechanism latches onto a plastic protrusion
>AK
Probably the durable and most likely to be supported into the future
>Scar
Big bux for smole performance
>IWI Carmel (however the kikes spell it)
Kike gun and the cheap blems disappeared. Likely to go the route of the ARX
>Sig MCX
Lmao
>CMMG offerings
Not as bad as the other anon claims, but not worth the price
>Used MPAR
Cheap and not likely to completely shit the bed. Hunk of shit otherwise
>Bren 1/2/(maybe 3)
Cheaper than the Scar, will likely continue being supported for another 10 years at least
>Shitty drop in bufferless solutions
Just don't
>Mini14
Probably the second or third most affordable option I've suggested. Personally I'd do an AK over all these when considering parts availability, durability, and cost

>>64098168
you know, like a rocket

>>64102791
>>64102812
I've looked into these and most of them are either too expensive or too heavy. Im pretty much settled on just getting a 762 draco and eventually sbring it and doing a brace in the meantime. The galil and Ruger are still in the running because I don't really want to invest in a new caliber, but the galil is expensive and the Ruger is still pretty long, but I do love them for the 80s nostalgia points.

>>64102992
then get a ZPAP92

>>64104470
What's better about them? I was hoping to get one that already had a rail on the back for a stock/brace.

>>64102812
Also I was one of the guys bitching about cmmg. Really not interested in giving them another shot.

>>64104604
better than a Draco in that you have more options straight from Zastava USA, including ones with stocks already installed and they have a thicker trunnion and reciever.

>>64094562
All it needs is a little more color.

>>64105447
Is that really worth paying nearly double the pricefor it? Unless it makes a big difference I'd rather just get more ammo

>>64106629
you can still find 92s for under a thousand here and there with the picrail on the back of the receiver. I think it's worth it because my z92 is one of my favorite guns

>>64101348
Mini-14s have traditional rifle lines and look less scary than an AR15 silhouette. We're fighting for optics in court and social media right now in Commiefornia. Doesn't help that nogunz are so retarded and uneducated about small arms they just freak out when they see one lying around.