Thread 64094747

Sell me on a defensive handgun caliber that isnt 9mm

>>64094747 (OP)
10mm

Bullet big

>>64094752
What does it do that 9mm cant, ive eyeballed an m&p 2.0 10mm

.357 sig
/thread

>>64094767
Quite the salesman, just name your product and slam down a contract on the table.

>>64094760
You get a little more versatility in your bullet loads. Need the local George Floyd to drop? No shortage of FBI loads. Bear problem? Load hard cast. Range time? There's the store stuff loaded to .40

>>64094856
How does a companion PCC in 10mm fare, if only for fun

7.5 FK

>>64094747 (OP)
.357 MAGNUM.
>you hear me? I said MAGNUM.

>>64094747 (OP)
.327 Federal Magnum

>>64094747 (OP)
>.45 Super
Big boolet, big energy (actually breaks the sound barrier with 185 grain hollow points)

>>64094747 (OP)
5.7mm

-It was in Stargate
-Muh fort Hood
-Muh wound vectors
-It was in Stargate
-20 rounds, zero recoil

>>64094863
Having run around with the Ruger LC carbine in 10 for the express purpose of goofing off with a suppressor, I'd say it fares good!

>>64094747 (OP)
.950 jdj

.380

>>64094747 (OP)
>>64094752
.45acp

Bullet big

>>64094747 (OP)
OP here, after much deliberation i have settled on .30 super carry and .327 magnum. I want to reload eventually, love .32 caliber for no rational reason and .30 sc, .327 mag, .32 h&r and .32 s&w long all share projectiles

>>64094747 (OP)
10mm "Man Mangler"

>>64094951
>.45 Super
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>>64094747 (OP)
Why don't want an offensive caliber handgun?

>>64094747 (OP)
No, anything other than 9 is for faggots

>>64095127
Cuz i aint a soldierboy

>>64094747 (OP)
Just get a 5.7 and pick up the frangible ammo

.357 sig
>available in auto loaders
>powerful
>common enough to be available

>>64094747 (OP)
.40 S&W. Gives you .45 capacity and 9mm stopping power. Nuff said.

>>64094949
>clips
>not mags
holy noguns

>>64094747 (OP)
>8 round 357 Magnum
>can also use 38 special
>scandium frame
>SA/DA
>better stopping power than 9mm
>sturdier than a polymer frame gun so you could beat someone to death with it probably

>>64094760
If you happen to stumble upon the dead body Jamal left behind, the popo can't pin it on you because Jamal probably filled that guy with 9mm.

>>64094747 (OP)
.380
bullet adequate and controllable in a pocket gun

.45 ACP

>>64095608
This. All handgun bullets are underpowered, but 380 is about where it's just good nuff

>>64095089
How heavy is the single action and is it crisp? Always interested in these.

>>64095001
5.7 is ineffective. Hundreds of shots and a very low casualty rate. Thats not a good outcome. FT Hood showed why the 5.7 is the worst choice.

>>64094747 (OP)
.45 anti communist patrol
>big ass bullet
>coolest guns are chambered in it like the 1911 and Mk.23.
>can get a copsurp Glock in it for cheap if you are a poorfag
>more expensive than 9mm, but not as much as other calibers
>muh stahppin powah
>muh two world wars

>>64094760
Impress anons on /k/.

>>64094949
>Inb4 muh FBI and muh gel!!!
I've come to suspect that there may unironically have been a conspiracy against .45 acp. It's unusual for troop reports to be positive about a small arm unless it's a meaningful improvement, 99% of the time it's just bitching and moaning, largely because they don't want to admit to missing. .45's introduction is one of few examples of that, although GIs were back to bitching about them by WW2. I can think of like two high profile failures of .45 acp vs the dozens for 9mm with more coming out every year

>>64096013
More like .45 anti colored person

>>64095038
In a subcompact with a short barrel because, its .45 its not like its going that fast anyway you don't need a long barrel.

>>64094747 (OP)
38 special is all you need. become a revolver chad.

>>64095992
Pistols in general don’t have a fantastic fatality rate.

One doesn’t need to be dead to be neutralized as a threat.

>>64094951
>>64095038
>>64095680
>>64096013
>>64096149
.45 is for offensive handguns

>>64094949
>Even big Daddy Pendleton called them clips
mag tards on suicide watch

>>64094760
It goes to 1 0.

>>64094949
WELL FUCK ME DOWN, MEN!

>>64096509
5.7 214 shots. 43 hits. 13 deaths
.22 and 9mm 174 shots 49 hits 32 deaths.
You can do this shit all day. 5.7 is trash. It is literally the worst possible choice. It just pokes tiny little holes. The fucking .22lr is demonstrably better at killing.

>>64095026
Now that's just silly!

>>64095372
All mags are clips and all clips are mags.
Boys are girls and girls are boys.
Where the fuck you been gramps?

>>64094747 (OP)
380
10+1 in a pocket pistol and still puts 9mm holes in someone to the proper depth

>>64096838
No. Clips and magazines are not the same thing. Words have meanings. We have a thread with some girlscout talking about a nature adventure larping about rucking. Thats what happens when you don't use the correct word.

>>64096831
Yes, but that wasn’t the point I was making. If you shot someone with a 5.7, would they be adequately deterred from continuing violence?

>>64096919
All things being equal the person shot with the 5.7 would be less likely to be deterred, incapacitated or killed than they would if shot by pretty much any other pistol caliber.
5.7 is a shit choice. By the deaths alone if you shot 43 people with the 5.7 13 people would at some point be unable to fight back.
If you shot 49 people with the 9mm and .22 32 would at some point be unable to fight back.
That is not a small difference. That is a very significant difference. And considering I would argue the .22 and 9mm are not great choices either the 5.7 is a very, very poor choice.

>>64096919
To more directly answer your question it's impossible to tell who will be deterred from attacking by being shot. The only things you can count on are fainting from blood loss/lack of oxygen and cns hits causing paralysis and or death.
The 5.7 is not a good choice for those two things either.

>>64096942
>>64096950
Fair enough, and it’s solid reasoning.

I still wouldn’t want to be shot with one.

>>64096959
I doubt it feels good.

>>64096813
Reloading box mags from stripper clips was common enough that the term being interchangeable isn't really an issue. Loads of early automatic rifles had removable box mags but you were expected to reload it via stripper clips and not replace the magazine.

>>64094747 (OP)
.38 revolver

>>64094747 (OP)
5.7 is my favorite non revolver cartridge. I'm slowly shifting away from 9mm to it. Basically everything I like about 9mm is better. It suppresses the same as 22lr, recoil is non-existent, the round is flat it makes headshots something that inexperienced can accomplish with minimal effort, since the recoil is low you can train longer without being fatigued and gives you more confidence which prevents flinches.

Basically everything about the round is superior except cost.

Like I said I'm done with 9mm. Its 5.7,22lr, or 44 magnum for me. I can't think of a single reason to own 9mm now.

>>64098751
Ive heard handloading it can be a bitch, but provided i manage, can you load it pretty hot with some, say, 30 grain bullets?

>>64098766
You can. People say it's a bitch because of the polymer costing but it literally doesn't matter unless you're shooting a p90. Other than that it's a pretty typical cartridge except the threshold between a normal charge and one that'll damage your gun is very small.

>>64094747 (OP)
>>64095350
.40 S&W and .45 ACP
either one gives more on-target energy than 9 mm out of equivalent-length barrels

>>64094747 (OP)
Girls love it
Niggers hate it
Liberals seethe