Thread 64098415

The newest tugboat of the Russian fleet sank in St. Petersburg on the eve of completion of construction

“There was a struggle for the ship all night long. Employees of the Baltic Shipyard helped their colleagues stop the list,” said Alexander Lebedev, head of public relations at the Baltic Shipyard.

In the evening, water began to enter one of the ship's compartments, and by morning it had completely sunk. It had arrived in St. Petersburg for completion.

>>64098415 (OP)
>farts, shits and dies

Ok, this is getting out of control.

>>64098415 (OP)
>it's real

NAFO falseflaggers at it again... What city fell now?

>>64098435
Elabuga logistical terminal LMAO

Could it be a mistake with the water intake valve or a failed flood test?

At least the North Koreans were competent enough to finish building the ship before sinking it.

At least Russia still can build ships. What happened to America?

>>64098466
>India, Russia and North Korea fighting for title worst navy in the world
lmao

>>64098476
>At least Russia still can build ships
Can they??? Does it LOOK like they can? lmao

>>64098476
reminder that one of only two Kirovs still active has been in dock for refitting for 30 years now

The final nail in the Kuznetsov's coffin.

>>64098476
Bruh they don't even float

Given the board is getting spammed up this must be causing upset

>>64098513
would be weird since it seems to be a regular occurrence in russia

>>64098513
actually much more important news: largest Nitrogen plant in Puccia just blew up, 30+ wounded, no drones were used, just finally shit breaking down. A giant logistical terminal for Sneedheads in Alabuga just got dronned

>>64098476
Might as well just start building them at the bottom of the ocean and save Poseidonov the trouble. I wouldn't get in a Russian canoe.

This shit was probably $20-40M, what a blunder.

>>64098529
It's not a nitrogen war anyways

>>64098415 (OP)
Curse of the Bongs strikes again, never shoulda had a navy

>>64098510
Beat me to it.

>>64098415 (OP)
Dubs decide how many months until a nuclear sub accident, trips for a kirov getting posidens kiss and quads for nuclear power meltdown

>>64098476
>At least Russia still can build ships.
Yes, and Ghana can build powersuits and helicopters.

>>64098566
That was hohol nitrogen.

>>64098415 (OP)
>>64098428
AngloSaxon frogmen are behind this

>>64098527
like fertilizer nitrogen?

>>64098622
>Bashkortostan, at the "Kaustik" production site of JSC "Bashkir Soda Company" during preparations for the overhaul of the vinyl chloride and polyvinyl chloride production complex.
my mistake it was chlorine explosion, not nitrogen

>>64098415 (OP)
>this has to be bullshit
>https://united24media.com/latest-news/brand-new-russian-navy-tug-sinks-at-st-petersburg-shipyard-before-entering-service-10601
>it's not
Wtf..

>>64098415 (OP)
Some ships are designed to do that.

>>64098446
Fake welding of chinesium bulkheads.

>>64098670
Was this one?

99% chance it was sabotage
you do realize Russia is at war and has many enemies

>>64098476
>What happened to America?
Nothing? The US has commissioned several new ships in the past year or two.

That's not very typical

>>64098680
Nope. Flip ships can unfuck themselves assuming they didn't flip in shallow waters. Can't say the same for the tugboat.

>>64098694
The worse enemy of Puccia is themselves

>>64098476
Idk but I just read that russia is thinking about selling their aircraft carrier. /k/ getting their own carrier is a funny thought.

>>64098694
It was just as likely Russian incompetence, especially with the increasing strain their nation is undergoing as a consequence of their own actions.

>>64098605
You know, since they're underwater and all, who's to say it hasn't already happened? I'm not a scientist, but would a reactor meltdown at the bottom of the ocean be detectable from the surface? Sure, there would be a rise in radiation and temperature, but currents would just sweep that away and spread it out real quick.

>>64098476
http://www.shipbuildinghistory.com/statistics/recent.htm
Sure buddy.

>>64098415 (OP)
How do you fuck up building a tugboat? They aren't' exactly cutting edge. Pretty sure every Oligarch's yacht is a more sophisticated craft

>>64098735
>every Oligarch's yacht is a more sophisticated craft
Thats why they made in Italy and Spain.

>>64098735
Russians don't build the yachts, the rich oligarchs take all the peoples money and hire other countries to make them

>>64098731
No.
>temperature rise
There are thermal vents where the ocean contacts the outer mantle of the planet and once you get more than a few dozen meters away the ambient temperature is the same as the rest of the ocean.
>radioactivity
Water is extremely good at radiation shielding.
I mean yeah, some russian sub could have melted down its reactor and sunk in the middle of the ocean but unless someone stumbles across the wreck nobody would ever knkw.

>>64098694
>Russia is at war
Discrediting the armed forces of the Russian Federation is a crime against the state, this is a special military operation
>captcha: THVDV

>>64098694
>Sabotage
If it were an oil tanker, bulk carrier, icebreaker, or a warship maybe. But a fucking tugboat? We aren't exactly talking about high technology here anon, even the most impoverished of nations could slap together a tugboat.

>>64098782
>even the most impoverished of nations could slap together a tugboat.
apparently not

>>64098731
IIRC you might be able to tell by increased detection of radioisotopes and/or decay products if you're downstream of the sub, but oceans are a bit on the large side so it's not a guarantee.

>>64098645
>chlorine explosion
Oh boi.

>>64098710
The Kutznetsov isn't even an aircraft carrier anymore at this point, it's just an IRL space hulk.

>>64098415 (OP)
In totally unrelated news, Boris Johnson spotted going for a swim

>>64098645
It could be HCl (white cloud), it isn't different though, terrible kek

>>64098735
The cork for the bottom hole of the tug got embezzled, please understand.

>>64098645
>it was chlorine explosion, not nitrogen
>

>>64098645
Somehow it's even worse. I don't even know what to feel about that

>>64098645
Gawks in the distance

>>64098645
>it was chlorine explosion
Oh my, I hope that local authorities treat this situaton with uttermost care. For sure it's nothing to be sneezed at.

>>64098645
>chlorine
lmao russia is such a shithole

>>64098741
heem sleepy

>>64099503
Lmao

>>64099503
Trump said he's gonna kill it :(
I sincerely hope he doesn't
its some of the only good content left on youtube

>>64098415 (OP)
Poor girl, PUCCIAN or not. F.

>>64098476
The US and China are neck and neck for military tonnage over the next decade. Hopefully having a national Office of Shipbuilding will bring some more commercial construction back to our shores.

>>64098695
>USS Iowa
I... can't wait for the Kancolle version.

>>64098733
>http://www.shipbuildinghistory.com/statistics/recent.htm
It's cool seeing the buildouts of entirely new classes of vessel in that table, OSVs and drilling rigs primarily. We're also building more tugs than ever and you can see the shift to smaller vessel size in the overall US fishing fleet.

>>64099424
do you think a cork is enough in the Russian Navy for
you know
the thing

>>64099618
America still far surpasses China in tonnage.

>>64099519
>>64099510
>>64099503
>>64099480
>>64099465
>>64099096
I bring more good/bad news. Two more explosions heard on that plant and fire broke out

>>64099153
boriswave skullface

>>64098782
Not to long ago tug boats were what kept Russia in the carrier club.

>>64099755
Total tonnage? Not surprising. The last chart Anon posted here, it was a toss-up between China and the US on a decadal level, basically whoever fully funded existing plans. I'm not at all surprised if the US, with "zero manufacturing" according to retards, is outstripping Chinese shipbuilding.

>>64099600
He couldn't handle the little guy. It ridiculed him. And he can't stand that. Now he's killing him.

>>64099769
I know the Chinese has pretty lofty plans and claims for the next decade.
US is set for 3 frigates and 3 subs per year through 2035.

>>64098476
embarrassing cope ivan

>>64098415 (OP)
That's not a flaw; it's a feature. Now, the tugboat can finally tow the Moskva home

>>64099969
>Lyndon B Johnson
>Zumwalt
I thought Burger naval naming convention reserved the names of presidents for aircraft carriers?

>>64098752

The implosion event would be picked up by SOSUS from hundreds of miles away. Shit's surprisingly loud to a billion-dollar sonar network spread across both the Atlantic and Pacific specifically to detect submarine prop/reactor noises, let alone one noisily imploding.

>>64099108
You would think given all the time spent in drydock they could at least have someone clean the place up. Wtf do the sailors do all day outside of the traditional gang rape?

>>64099768
>decide to scrap carrier
>the curse moves to a tug boat
thats a bad omen

>>64098476
We currently have a 100,000-ton carrier being fitted out, another under construction, and a third is getting laid down next year.

>>64098645
>my mistake it was chlorine explosion, not nitrogen
Ruh Roe Raggy

>>64099761
What is the bad one?

>>64098415 (OP)
[Opening shot: TV news desk. Straight-faced anchor looks into the camera.]

Anchor: And now to defence news — the Russian Navy’s newest state-of-the-art tugboat has sunk during its maiden voyage. Joining me is Senior Naval Analyst, Mr. David Barge. Mr. Barge, welcome.

Barge: Good evening.

Anchor: A tugboat, Mr. Barge. Not a destroyer, not a submarine… a tugboat. And it sank.

Barge: Yes, well, it was meant to be the pride of the fleet’s auxiliary support vessels. Sleek lines, modern equipment… all the latest in ropes and hooks. Unfortunately, it’s currently supporting the seabed.

Anchor: How does a brand-new tugboat sink on its first day?

Barge: Well, that depends who you ask. The official statement says it “experienced a rapid and unscheduled redistribution of buoyancy.”

Anchor: Which means?

Barge: It tipped over and went down like a bar fridge full of lead shot.

Anchor: Any crew injured?

Barge: No injuries. They were rescued by… another tugboat. An older one. Which then broke down.

Anchor: Right. So what happens to the sunken tug now?

Barge: Oh, the Navy has already dispatched a recovery ship. Which, incidentally, was towed to the scene by a third tug.

Anchor: And if that one sinks?

Barge: Well, they do have plenty more tugboats. Though at this rate, they might need a tugboat to tow the country.

Anchor: Thank you, Mr. Barge.

Barge: Pleasure.

>>64099785
>3 frigates and 3 subs per year
>3 subs per year
No one can compete.

>>64099969
Some impressive ships in there. Really looking forward to the Columbia class.
I'll never understand naming ships after men. Ever.
>Wasp
>Constellation
>Enterprise
>Tarawa
>Warspite

>>64100234
>sleek lines, modern equipment… all the latest in ropes and hooks
Lost

>>64098735
>ow do you fuck up building a tugboat? They aren't' exactly cutting edge.
Anon, they tried to build a new type of icebreaker only to fuck it up so badly they cancelled it and got a german shipyard to unfuck it and build the next few instead

>>64100261
The Navy decided to sell it's dignity to Congress critters to be able to afford slightly more new toys by naming it after whatever the fuck will get the bill passed.

>>64099761
Can I get a link to an article that's doing live updates? I'm morbidly curious. Like fuck the body count is going to be special

>>64099761
>Two more explosions heard on that plant and fire broke out
So we're having us a Chlorine fire.
OK this lands us at 'at least it's not fluorine' in terms of how terrible it is.
Oh, and 'at least it's not radioactive'.

See, it coulld still be a lot worse!
>checks what they were making
>they were making PVC
Oh well, in that case the areas downwind from that fire might get a tiny bit of a heightened cancer risk, some liver failure and a bit of hhydrchloric acid rain.
Oh and better stay away from the fire because the smoke might just contain a spot of the ol' phosgene.
But the firefighters surely have masks with up-to-date filters, so there is absolutely no need to worry!

>>64100423
>Oh well, in that case the areas downwind from that fire might get a tiny bit of a heightened cancer risk, some liver failure and a bit of hhydrchloric acid rain
So a normal day in Russia then?

>>64100000
waste of quints.

>>64100234
Are you the OP from yesterday with the thread about Russian Alcoholics Anonymous?

It's a shame that it was deleted.

>>64098476
wait i got it

>>64098476
this is like the bug in the space thread that said america hasn't gone to the moon since apollo

>>64098415 (OP)
> someone messed on dock
> 100 comments of peremoga from this tiny accident

>>64100547
Yes, mods called it off topic. I capped them though.

>>64100255
TBF they also plan to decommision quite a few at the same time. But one Ohio and 2 LAs annually is an impressive rate of acquisition.

>>64100487
Is this not counting US Coast Guard then?

Sunday morning begins with a burning refinery.

>>64100588
Thanks! That was one of the funniest threads in a long time!

Maybe it would stay up longer on /b/ or somewhere else.

>>64100234
>Barge: Oh, the Navy has already dispatched a recovery ship. Which, incidentally, was towed to the scene by a third tug.
>Anchor: And if that one sinks?

Barge: well that is brilliance of the design, in addition to surface support, is also design to tow sub if needed.

>>64100588
Fuck that's hilarious. Great work anon

>>64100568
I know Texans that think less about Texas than those fuckers do the US. It's strange. I don't think Hank Hill cares about Texas like chinks and jeets do the US

>>64098476
Shoving a boat-shaped chunk of debris into the ocean isn't "building a ship"

>>64100586
>tiny accident
That’s a very russophobic description of the biggest russian-built ship in years, Sirgay Pidorov.
Better delete your post before curator notices.

>>64100959
Russophobic? I'm not afraid of the idiots. I'm anti-Russian. They are a plague and annihilation is the answer

>>64098836
WTH, when did an AWACS crash?

>>64100641
If you want to view this in a positive light, you could say that the fires have improved.

>>64101019
14th of July 1996

>>64098415 (OP)
>russia + water = disaster
It keeps happening. The water gods are not pleased.

>>64100586
It just very sleepy, total normal, da

>>64098645
>it was chlorine explosion
ah, cool

What is the purpose of the Russian navy in the 2020s anyway?

The Black Sea is compromised by the war in Ukraine. Syria is lost. Sudan won't build the naval base. So everything to the south is not feasible. There's nothing else is there?
The Baltic Sea is a NATO lake and Europe is finally pulling its finger out and spending some money on its military again after thirty years of mooching about.
I have no idea about their Pacific Fleet. What's the status of that these days? Are they teaming up with the Nork Navy?
Lastly, and I think this is the only area where they shine, their arctic fleet is probably still best in class globally. But the arctic is still very cold and will still be for the forseeable. And if Russian oil gets sanctioned again, that will slow down global warming so that's quite funny.

>>64101571
>What is the purpose of the Russian navy in the 2020s anyway?
LARPing as a great power. And also sabotaging cables.

>>64101571
>What is the purpose of the Russian navy in the 2020s anyway?
Sunk cost fallacy.

>>64098415 (OP)
>It had arrived in St. Petersburg for completion.

The boat looks rather innovative for a submarine.

>>64100588
>>64091772

>>64101631
Damn, looks like it was actually a fun thread.
Guess it had too much text for zoomzooms.

>>64098645
Holy shit nigga

How do you fuck that up? How does a modern ship which presumably was floating and seaworthy until then take on so much water it overwhelms its flooding defense and the port doesn't have the means to handle it? Was it rammed bow-first by a tanker and caved in?
Simply baffling.

>>64101659
>Simply baffling.
Simply puccia.

>>64101659
the explanation is that Russians are niggers but wrong color by accident

>>64101571
>I have no idea about their Pacific Fleet. What's the status of that these days?
Well their strategic submarine base got destroyed by a tsunami last week.
>Are they teaming up with the Nork Navy?
They did excercise with the Chinese, even Russia understands that the Nork navy is not relevant.

>>64100028
>let alone one noisily imploding
What about one silently exploding?

>>64100867
Its usually the same about trannie-spammers. I know genuine mtf trannies who obsess less about dicks, balls and trannies than the average trad /pol/-poster

>>64101659
At this point, its a feature and not a bug

>>64098645
please tell me the factory next door produces bleach

>>64101659
There are so many points of failure that it boggles the mind. The fashionable term to use these days is 'competency crisis'. It fits Russia quite well. I like to think that the emigres who fled in 2022 were their most skilled minds.

>>64100174
Kek, those were different times.

>>64101704
Where do you think all those Donetsk orphabs work?

>>64101659
Well, it's not supposed to do that.
I'd just like to point out that it is not typical.

>>64101715
Maybe the refinery's parent company?

>>64098645
>my mistake it was chlorine explosion, not nitrogen

You can add my sides to the casualties list. Fucking kek.

>>64101571
>I have no idea about their Pacific Fleet. What's the status of that these days?
They just had a 8.5 earthquake last week with some of gnarliest tsunamis I’ve ever seen, shit is cat gazillion fucked

>>64100634
We're trying to be nice.

>>64098476
>At least Russia still can build ships
if boat shaped why not boaty floaty?

>>64098741
Captain, ship is drunk.

>>64100423
As the old song said, all is well, all is well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCjGbWR59jg

>>64098476
you showed them saaaaaaar

>>64100099
People who try to do any cleaning get raped harder by the rest of the crew, thus no one does

>>64098415 (OP)
Must have been those sneaky Japanese torpedo boats.

>>64098619
The nitrogen returned to port under its own power.

>>64098731
At some point someone would detect an isotope that was clearly a product of reactor decay and since we've done a relatively good job of clearing up every nuc boat that's sunk so far we would be able to conclude there's one left out there unaccounted for, but it would take years
Much quicker would be NATO intelligence learning about the sinking and """"leaking"""" the occurrence to further humiliate pozziya

>>64101678
>that ultra cheap fire effect
>not even metal tracks
>pebbles used as rocks
Please tell me this is NOT a museum...

>>64101982
Russian onions have more vitamins than nitrogen

>>64101990
>>that ultra cheap fire effect
>>not even metal tracks
>>pebbles used as rocks
>Please tell me this is NOT a museum...
anon, that's not even the peak of russian modelling prowess

>>64098605
Rollin, hope it’s hot!

>>64099503
I can’t wait for the soothingly-narrated 3D animated recreation.

>>64098527
Doesnt matter anymore, Trump is about to bail russia out and lift all sanctions anyway.

>>64102332
You keep using that narrative. Why? Trump still cannot actually bail Russia out, because US sanctions are an afterthought compared to what the EU is doing to the ziggers and there's next to no trade between Russia and the US anyway.

>>64099785
>US is set for 3 frigates and 3 subs per year through 2035.

Frigate program: not even started
Subs: already tapped out at 1.5 sub per year.

>>64102472
>>64099785
The current plan as of 2025 is 2 attack subs a year and 1 ballistic sub every 2 years for the next 3 decades, so actually about 2.5 annually
Also about 4 destroyers and frigates a year

>>64098645
Please explain why chlorine exposition is so (you) worthy?
I am not a chemist

>>64102575
First poison gas used en masse in war (ww1)

>>64101571
The Russian navy has always been a curse
https://youtu.be/f95oBKLODE0?si=aXXNO0fXkdV4CBUa

>>64098415 (OP)
Tugboat commited sudoku to preserve his honor. Press F.

>>64101659
Ruskies (and pretty much all Eastern ship building examples we have seen this far) are bad at damage control. The US is literally the best at it. You don't just get better at it, it requires fundamentally designing the ships better and without the experience and knowledge you get easier to sink subs. That or perhaps all their professional sailors have been recruited and it was solely a training issue. But given the lack of info about adverse conditions I suspect it's lil column a and b

>>64098415 (OP)
Laughing at Russia never gets tiresome.

>>64102721
>it requires fundamentally designing the ships better and
Maintenance culture

>>64102575
this >>64102582 but there's more than just poison cloud, chlorine may not burn itself but it makes other shit burn better, reacting violently with organic stuff, releasing a shitload of toxic, corrosive gasses in the process, making it a total bitch to control
Another anon aptly classified it as 'at least it's not fluorine' which is pretty much the worst scenario in regular chemistry before you start fucking with shit like dimethylmercury

>>64102575
>chlorine exposure
Well depending on the level of exposure you're
>fine
>need an oxygen mast for the rest of your life
>just fucking die (in agony)

>>64102773
Those last two are basically the same thing, this is russia we're talking about here

>>64102735
Isn't maintenance/cleaning/etc. basically a bottom bitch job in their culture?

>>64102757
I'm still waiting for them to spill some chlorine trifluoride or worse. We could use more data on its effects on (semi-)human life.
>It is, of course, extremely toxic, but that's the least of the problem. It is hypergolic with every known fuel, and so rapidly hypergolic that no ignition delay has ever been measured. It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers, not to mention asbestos, sand, and water—with which it reacts explosively.

>>64102893
>Isn't maintenance/cleaning/etc. basically a bottom bitch job in their culture?
Tbh it is in most cultures
>t. Grew up with the good old "study hard or you'll grow up to be a garbage man"
But the actual "maintenance culture" relevant here is not merely taking out the rubbish, but spending time, effort, and lots of money on preventive maintenance such as checking on things for signs of wear, replacing worn out parts before they break down, and building stuff with plenty of safety margin

That kind of thing is very alien to poorer civilisations, which is fine for dealing with small everyday matters of little impact (who gives a shit about "preventive maintenance" for your lightbulb, leave it alone until it breaks) but is a big spanner in the works for things which have drastic consequences when they suddenly fail, such as your brake pads when you're tootling along at 140mph on the Autobahn

>>64100487
>ignores US Army Sealift
>ignores entire US Coast Guard plus aviation wing
>ignores Merchant Marine sealift
To be fair, it also ignores China's weird fishing fleet militia boats.

>>64101659
>How do you fuck that up?
The amazing thing, to me as someone who grew up commercial fishing, is that it sunk dockside. Boat's lilting? Lash her to the pier until you can get more pumps into her bilge.
>damn, that reads dirtier than I expected.

>>64102542
>The current plan
is not being fulfilled because the shipyards are having constant issues. That's the point, idiot.

>>64102956
>And what can we infer from your charming boaty lilt?

>>64102005
>is ship
>must has pointy boy
>da, tovarisch

>>64102964
>someone unplugged her when they should have plugged her in

>>64102893
based ignition
My money's on a hydrazine fuckup

>>64101888
>why not boaty floaty?
gained water weight and boaty got too bloaty to floaty.

It's a tug submarine.

>>64101990
That's way better then most museum dioramas.

>>64101571
I didn't follow shit, what happened to their bases in Syria anyway? I remember they were in a quantum state