Thread 64105523

I’m making an FPS set in the late 1890’s. Basically you are a vampire hunter and you have to kill vampires and shit. Like castlevania meets doom.

What guns should I include?
I think it’d be cool if you could hip fire a hotchkiss

>>64105523 (OP)
a hotchkiss model 1897*

>>64105523 (OP)
Remington rolling block

C93 Borchardt and 1898 Schwarzlose

>>64105523 (OP)
Can't go wrong with lever actions

>>64105523 (OP)
Bergmann 1896/1897, Borchardt C93, Mauser C96, Mannlicher M1895, Mondragon M1894, Maxim, Remington 1890, Winchester 1894, Win 1897

>>64105557
>single shot rifle in an FPS game
why would you choose that over a Winchester lever rifle which is emblematic of the era and shilled repeatedly in Bram Stoker's Dracula

*digs ur potatoes*

>>64105596
The single shot is obviously the super sniper option for balance.

sharps 1874

>>64105596
Because rolling blocks were fucking everywhere

>>64105602
what, what is that for

>>64105523 (OP)
>I’m making an FPS set in the late 1890’s
your country is falling to pieces and this is the shit you're doing

>>64105807
yep. right now, the country is falling apart, and yet, someone, somewhere, is making sure the correct amount of buttpaper is being ordered and loaded into a truck. buttpaper. you might think that if the country is collapsing, anyone doing anything "not important" should drop everything and disregard everything on a moments notice to "save the country". but if they did, in less then 24 hours, there wouldnt be any buttpaper in the country on any shelves, in any market, for sale anywhere.

and then faster then the country could actually "fall apart", it falls apart because it turns into literally india.

see, the country thats falling apart, the thing your trying to save, IS indeed, the concept, the idea, that there are people who make a living, going around providing, supply, stocking buttpaper. thats what your trying to save. or telling people they should be saving.

that needs to actually exist, to actually be there, for you to save it. get me?

>>64105823
did you seriously just compare playing a critical role in supply chains to "i want to make a vidya game"?

Loaded with dragonsbreath rounds of course. Could even have it be that your hunter is the originator of that particular ammo, and one of his descendants decided to patent it later on to fund future hunts.

>>64105840
Or if that's too anachronistic for you pretty sure most media depicts vampires reacting to having 12 gauge sized holes blown in them, the same way everything else reacts to it, that is to say, poorly.

>>64105807
>>64105837
>you’re not allowed to have fun because some arbitrary social issue is happening somewhere
>no you can’t fix the issue either, you have to do nothing
Why are you posting on 4chan instead of donating all your money to the poor or running for prime minister or whatever

Get the fuck out of my thread

>>64105855
difference between a bit of downtime and dedicating time and capital to a literal child's pipedream

>for prime minister
oh no no no no nogunsbros

>>64105837
yes. what do those people do, those who run critical roles in supply chains do, after they finish work and go home. obviously, the factory worker who pumps out 120 mm shells all day, every day, he goes home to his wife and kids, and pulls out some books about the scales of economy, wartime industry shit, theorizes how the current state of the war is going.

or they go home and use that paycheck to buy their daughter an ice cream, some clothing for for school, a text book, then puts the rest into the gas tank so he can get to work tomorrow.

but apparently he doesnt. for some weird reason, some guy...still stocks the shelves with those text books. the clothing for school. the ice cream. baffling. dont these people know they are trying to save the american way of life!? which is absolutely, not, going home to your surburbia wife, your trad wife, your son and daughter, taking the baseball mitt and going into the yard to play a game of catch.

some fucking asshole stiched a baseball and a baseball mitt in the middle of ww2. what a fuckin asshole.

>>64105860
>STOP!!!!!! HAVING!!!!!! FUN!!!!!!
Get out of my thread you lazy retard

>>64105865
show us how far you've gotten on your game babby

Welp, was a neat thread while it lasted.

>>64105789
The gas pushes the lever down which actuates a bar that cycles the action.

>>64105862
ww2 is definitely the same as what is happening right now

>>64105862
spending time with your children is the same as sinking hours into supernormal stimuli and gooning to shadows on cave walls

Don't listen to him anon, I'd like to see your game. Can I see it?

Wouldn’t be /k/ without some sperg shitting up the thread for no reason.

Double barrel shotgun.

>>64105855
>wojak
Kill yourself

>>64105911
>samefagging in your own thread

>>64105877
ww2 is definitely different to whats happening now.

see what i did. now apparently its on you to disprove me. apparently. you wont, because that shit is absurd, disprove any wild argument anyone makes at any given moment? but hey, we can just both, baselessly and disgeniously post random sentences, all day, ery-day, right? your gonna take me as seriously as i take you, right? right?

>>64105997
you speak like an esl who marvels at their own perceived intelligence

>>64105789
getting around patent fuckery iirc

>>64106002
only half right. im retarded, i just have read and understood the sticky. you know. the sticky. about fallacies. that has been stickied. at the top of the board. for like a fucking decade. but lets just pretend you just showed up today, since thats what your acting like.

my intellgence. i like to think im about as smart as a rock. a grey rock. found in a river bed. can you out smart me? a rock. in a river bed. should be easy.

>>64106006
christ, and just like a rock, i forgot to ask you to actually refute my argument, instead of insult me and call me names. you can...refute the argument. hell, just name what fallacy it is (this is not refuting an argument, as per fallacy fallacy, im just curious if you have basic pattern recognition. what if you didnt eat breakfast this morning? )

>>64106005
an a actual answer. thank thanks you for this.

>>64106014
i was thinking of a different gun. think of the potato digger as a backwards gas driven lever action. it originally was designed for a black powder round and I can see how the lever design would work better than a gas piston in that case. might have been some patent fuckery as well since maxim guns were recoil operated

>>64106024
i thought potato digger was in reference to knee morters and it was the divot the knee moarter left behind. obviously we are on different pages.

>>64106006
>>64106010
this is really gay

>>64106034
never heard of that
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1895_Colt%E2%80%93Browning_machine_gun

>>64105789
>>64106043
The absolute fucking state of this board.

>>64105523 (OP)
Swiss Vetterli 1871/1881
Gehwer 1888 commission rifle
French Gras 1874
Dutch Beaumont- Vitali 1871/88
Italalian Veteri Vitali 1871/87
French Lebel 1886
Martini Enfield
Martini Henry
Lee Metford
Mauser 1871/84
Egyptian Remmington Rolling block
Snider cavalry carbine
Snider 2 and 3 band rifles
French/Danish/Swedish Rolling Blocks
Winchester 1873 and 1886 lever actions
Austro Hungarian Wanzl rifle
US trapdoor springfield
Most of these had fuck huge bayonets as well

Pistols
Webley RIC Bulldog Revolver
1879 Reichsrevolver
Apache knuckleduster revolver
Swiss Revolver 1882
MAS 1873 revolver
Remington U.S. Army 1871 rolling block pistol
British Webley Mk I service revolver 1887
Colt peacemaker 1873
English or Belgian side by side external hammers cartridge shotgun

Semi obsolete but around
Rigby Match Target rifle
Percussion side by side 44 pocket pistol
Percussion side by side shotguns
Belgian pin fire cartridge revolvers
Underlever pinfire shotguns
Colt pecussion arevolvers
Remmington percusison revolvers
Tranter and Adams revolvers
Pepperbox percussionn revolvers
single shot percussion pocket guns

I recommend that you look at the Adolf Frank Export Company (ALFA) 1911 Gun Catalog

https://archive.org/details/AlfaWaffenkatalog1911
which list most of a the military surplus models many predating 1890 and may also be a useful resource for other materials for your creation. Also check out the Call of Cthuhlu roleplaying game source books for more ideas (Investigator Weapons volume 3: Gaslight Era" from Sixtystone Press)

remember that people are not going to generally ahve access to what were state of the art newly issued military arms but gnerally older models and systems

If you really need to bring the heat, the Maxim Gun was invented in 1884, and was in use with a few select units in 1890.

>>64105789
go watch ALL of C&rsenal before you tube erases it

>>64105807

>your country is falling to pieces and this is the shit you're doing
nta but ur gay

>>64106084
>Reichsrevolver
So you are trolling.

>>64106094
I have him a great list of common military issue and civilian guns includings ome quirky ones like the apache. Whats your problem? I included the US cavalry single shot rolling block pistol too

>>64105596
A lot of people also forget that Dracula was stabbed through the heart with a Bowie knife and decapitated with a kukri in the novel.

>>64106102
You gave him mostly old or boring shit or in the case of the Reichsrevolver, just plain shit.

>>64105807
you're an arsehole anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSpqObhK4Rw

>>64106092
>>64106120
you can call me a gay asshole but you can't say that i'm wrong.

>>64106114
>You gave him mostly old or boring shit or in the case of the Reichsrevolver, just plain shit.
You are not joking you really are a complete fucking cunt. What a dickhead you must be in reality a genuninely puchable liitle shit. All you can do is try and parrot a fragment of you youtube stuff you clearly don't even understand , what a sad fuck you are. I'll bet you don't own and have never handled one of those guns. You're a wanker, a cunt a spastic no frens and I'd lay money you know nothing about guns aside from watching youtube. Your reply tells everyone who knows anything about guns of the era you know fucking nothing about the subject, the lebel, metford, swiss vetterli and gewher 1888 where state of the art.

I think I'd head butt you in real life by the way, no joke. You need to adjust your attitute before someone busts you wide open and you wind up dead or in an emergcy room. You are ust that much of a prick that someone is going to lay you out sooner or later

>>64106124
>>64106124
no walter. your just a fuckin asshole.

>>64106124
Not alone are you wrong but you are a worthless over radicalised politcial prick, a bore and an asshole. Neck yourself

>>64106140
>not alone are you wrong
what language do you think this is. what language is...first.

>>64106146
Ah so you failed seconndary education as well
"The phrase "not alone are you wrong" is an example of hyperbole or a rhetorical device used to emphasize a point. It essentially means "you are definitely wrong." It's a way of saying someone is incorrect, but adding a layer of emphasis through the use of a double negative."

Fucking illiterate

>>64106138
>>64106140
thank you

>>64106146
why are you getting involved in my shit lil niggy

>>64106146
>>64106140
also i did just shit on you from outerspace but im willing to work with you and help you sound more natural. the shiney diamond about english first is that we just make it the fuck up, at all times. like ducks over the waters back, it makes sense to us, its nonsensical, but we understand. i can help you.

>>64106151
>"The phrase "not alone are you wrong" is an example of hyperbole or a rhetorical device used to emphasize a point.
double down. DOUBLE DOWN HARDER. PLEASE. this phrase, totally nonsensical. PLEASE. PLEASE focus harder and tell me how me, the native speaker of this gay ass fuck language is wrong. tell me more.

>>64106153
are you the fucking "i'm a rock" guy saying hallucinatory nonsense?

>>64106156
...maybe. i do feel like that phrase "im a rock" is something i may of said. can you link the post?

>>64106153
>t.Worthless drunk/drugged up obnoxious spastic

>>64105523 (OP)
C96 obviously. its just so iconic

>>64106155
see >>64106159

>>64106159
in the words of walter sobchak.

am

i

wrong

>>64106165
see
>>64106155
also follow that up with
>>64106166

thank you for your time.

>>64106124
Except that you are wrong. Entertainment is balm for the soul.
And there is never anyhting wrong with making something creative in troubled times. Arguably it is quite common, wether to digest the current events or to find solace from it.

>>64106155
like holy fuck, the phrase is "YOU ARE NOT ALONE". holy fucking shit, that didnt come to mind at all, at any moment.

if not, then great. let us make the american continent, gooder then previously encountered. we can do it twice. as in, two of us, together!

>>64106178
>>64106158
>>64106153
>>64106155
>>64106146
actual ESL or child

>>64106258
i was born in america, moved over to australia when i was about 2 and a half years old. so im english first language followed by english second language. i know imperial and metric pretty well, despite only being required to know one of them, at any moment in time.

this loophole doest exist anymore, but if you wanted to skip the line and enter the extradited line in an airport, you just acted like the opposite citizen of the country you were landing in. i skipped so many fingerprint sessions entering the united states by presenting and showing my australian passport. me, the convict, literal prisoner of the land locked prison island of australia. i walked into customs, saw the huge ass line for united citizens and walked down the priority line for "foreigners" and presented both passports and walked out and picked up my luggage before you guys could shake a tin roof. lmao

>>64106266
noguns

>>64106266
You are a dumb noongar. You are the blackest retard dreamtime noongar I have ever seen.

>>64106291
let me lean into it. im like, ultra giga nigga. i glow in the absence of light. or gravity, or air! i put te giga, into the nigga!

but the question remains the same. am i wrong.

>>64106275
also yes, i will be a no-guns entering no-guns island. but my buddy is a guns-haver. he's an ex-cop, so he has some cool toys. a double barrel with some (awful) polymer stuff, a bolt action in 308 and some sorta of repeating shotgun. more guns legally then most, but he was a literal fucking cop, so

Not same anon, but. Which guns are safe to use copyright wise in videogames? WW1 guns? Is there any sort of wiki and etc for it?

>>64106383
Licensing/copyright is a non issue with firearms in games. You can use anything you want.

>>64106725
I doubt that, especially regarding more popular brands

>>64106006
>the sticky. about fallacies. that has been stickied. at the top of the board.
you have to go back

>>64105535
Hmmm, based Department ?

>>64105881
Cope of copes.

>>64105807
Every accusation a confession, every lie an admission.

>>64106730
Then google it yourself

>>64106771
>you really shouldn't shit in the street
>I BET YOU *WISH* YOU WERE SHITTING IN THE STREET LIKE ME WOULDN'T YOU HUH FAGGOT...PROJECTION MUCH!!???
flawless logic

>>64105807
>your country is falling to pieces and this is the shit you're doing
lmao, you have to be 18 or over to be here

>>64105523 (OP)
Maxim-Silverman

>>64106818
you are in a thread about someone saying (yet again) that they're 100% definitely going to make a video game this time bro

Against monsters I would go for black powder weapons, even though there are better a cartridge weapons available at that time
A bp revolver with silver bullets is classic and a blunderbuss styled gun is great for improvised ammo like salt, silverware or maybe even a wooden stake

why do you dipshits waste your time respond to what is either inflammatory bait posting or miserable retards
neither are worth your time
you're not going to school anyone. you're not going to change anyone's mind. you've just wasted your time derailing the thread while playing into the hand of attention seeking faggots

>>64106855
i am your god

Remington 1875- frequently overlooked cousin of the Single Action Army, with a more aggressive look
Nagant 1895- Russian revolver, weird combo of familiar and exotic with unique cylinder
Winchester 1897 - maximum aesthetic pump action trench gun, slam fire for the memes
Colt Walker- big as fuck black powder revolver designed to drop horses out from under savages
Sharps 1874- Buffalo slayer cartridge rifle, known for 45-70, but made as big as 50-140
Lever guns- literally any of them are deeply associated with the era

>>64105523 (OP)
Bergman 5

>>64106124
you are wrong but you'll never accept it anyway because it's much more convenient to not invest in anything and criticise others who do than risk failing yourself

had you just a little more self-awareness you'd realize how similar you are to the "dude nothing matters we're just a rock floating in space" or libtards treating the coof like the plague and themselves as heroes for wearing a mask that you made fun of back in the day

>>64106731
to the top of the catalogue? where the sticky is?

>>64105523 (OP)
The best weapon from the 1890s is gonna be syphillis

>>64105807
I don't get it, which country is anon talking about?
>>64105523 (OP)
C96 Mauser.

Lee-Enfield Mk1 would be the "assault rifle" of the era.

C96 (>>64106160) the perfect semi-auto firearm, that could be pimped up with a 20rnd mag and stock for some portable "rapid fire".

Other than that, you're essentially looking at Wild West era black powder firearms, like revolvers, lever- action rifles, and break-action shotguns.

>>64105807
Well what is he supposed to do?

>>64106135
my fucking sides anon

>>64107816
I don't think OP plans to make an eroge. For that he'd ask /jp/ and /d/ instead of /k/.

>>64107772
yeah those aren't remotely comparable
literally all you did in your little frightened cattle-brain is associate my term with how bad it made you feel
and then presented a bunch of other buzzword terms that also made you feel bad

>>64105807
>t. guy who lives with his mom

>>64108332
>Lee-Enfield Mk1
>Posts a No4
>Mk1 wasnt even around until early 1900.
Anon.

>>64109825
please post my address and the names of my family members
or you're seething and telling me your conditions

>>64105523 (OP)
Basically anything Browning designed before 1900.

En bloc browning prototype

>>64105523 (OP)
1888 Commission rifle, state of the art, clip fed, shrouded barrel killing machine. Oh and people like mosins.

>>64105523 (OP)
>I’m making an FPS set in the late 1890’s. Basically you are a vampire hunter and you have to kill vampires and shit. Like castlevania meets doom.
MARANAX INFIRMUX

Assuming it's 1899 and that you're sticking with stuff that actually made it off of the drawing board but ignoring practical availability, I would say that the best you could get would be the following and I'll put anachronistic options in brackets and mention the best calibers when it seems relevant. The latest gun on this list is the MG 08 from 1908, I think.

Self-loading handgun - Mauser C96, Luger [Colt M1905 in .45 ACP]
Revolver - Colt New Service in .45 LC, Webley Mk. IV, Colt SAA in .45 LC, S&W No. 3 [Webley-Fosbury]
Shotgun - Winchester M1897, Winchester M1887 [Browning Auto-5, Winchester M1901 in 10ga]
Single-shot and double barreled rifles - Farquharson rifle, Winchester M1885, Sharps-Borchardt, single and double barreled hunting rifles [in NE chamberings]
Levergun - Winchester M1895 [in .405 Win.], Winchester M1886, Savage 99
Bolt-action rifle - Lee-Enfield Mk. 1*, Mauser Gew 98 in 8x57 [CLLE/SMLE, Sringfield, Kar 98 magnum sporting M98s]
Self-loading rifle - Cei-Rigotti [Remington Model 8/FN 1900 in .35 Rem., Chauchat]
Machine gun - M1895 in 7x57 [.30-06], Maxim Gun, Hotchkiss machine gun [MG 08]

Way too much weird shit no one knows or cares about in here.
Do this instead.
Knife
Revolver
Luger
Double barrel shotgun
Pump shotgun
Lever rifle
Rolling block sniper rifle
Dynamite
Some hmg like a gatling gun or that hodgkiss fpbp
There's your 1-9 keys, use 0 for some crazy super powerful endgame supernatural weapon.

>>64114401
When I first mentioned the rolling block, my thinking was that it would be the basicest bitch "it's a gun," gun, since they were everywhere and not all of the guns have to be the absolute best.

>>64114439
Of everything suggested here It's one of the better ones. It's recognizable to casuals and could fit as a sniper rifle or like you said a basic bitch starting gun and let things get weird and supernatural from there or something.

>>64114401
Cut the luger and pump shotgun, replace the knife and rolling block.

>sword
You are a vampire hunter not some random pleb, of course you have a sword. You don’t even need to use it as a basic melee either, make it a limited use weapon that instagibs/is strong but has a restriction. Silvered for the vampires of course
>double barrel shotgun
It’s a staple of the genre, fits the role of your powerful up close meat shot gun.
>lever rifle
All range, decent fire rate, mid-low damage gun. This is what you use when you need to shoot weak points, red barrels, and the heads of weak enemies and such. I would go for a Winchester 1894 so you get the classic lever action look and operation.
>crossbow
The stake thrower route is the most obvious, of course, but it could shoot other things too. Either way this is your long reload, single shot thing.
>heavy machine gun
The most powerful, but chews through ammo.
>pistol
This is honestly the least necessary gun, you could cut it. Autoloader or top break revolver doesn’t really matter, as long as you reload in one go instead of one at a time. It would be too similar to the lever gun otherwise. You could have one in each hand just to make it a bit more interesting.
>holy hand grenade
Your bfg, obviously

Now, the problem with the above is that you’re missing splash damage, and any kind of rapid fire spammy smg type gun. There aren’t many good real life options for these. You could use dynamite, but it’s just not the same as a rocket launcher or a grenade launcher is it.

I’d also advise a weapon upgrade/mod system so you can have some choice in your weapons. Maybe you can swap the lever gun for a bolt action that does more damage and reloads faster, but is slower in follow up shots.

>>64115177
Yeah I like this. You want to keep it simple and sensible in the genre not turn it into an autism induced gun orgy, not making a jagged alliance mod here

>>64115177
I wouldn't even have most of the weapons be real guns, you could do way cooler stuff like a spit fire fang launcher or a silver cross or a garlic gass bomb grenade launcher

>>64105789
It’s the penis

>>64115177
Not OP but I dig all of these. I agree with dynamite for splash damage, make it like the dynamite sticks from Blood where you can charge up how far you throw them. My suggestion for the rapidfire SMG is either be a little anachronistic and have a pickup/upgrade for the handgun that replaces it with a Schnellfeuer variant of the C96, or skip using a gun all together and have a fancy Bible or other mystical tome that you recite words out of rapidly and little beams of holy light shoot out. Maybe have it use stamina as ammo because you can't give long winded sermons while sprinting around?

>>64105523 (OP)
Definitely the Burgess Folding Shotgun

>>64106114
The reichsrevolver was a phenomenal club though

>>64105596
The doom super shotgun is a break action. Rolling block can have the same energy. Watch some videos of rolling block in action.

>>64115177
>pistol
>This is honestly the least necessary gun
I'd argue to the contrary, since if I was making a vampire shooter game I would:
>Reduce player speed with heavier weapons, so pistols/knives/swords have an advantage in certain scenarios - maybe have vampire enemies that are faster but take less damage to kill, for example.
>Have night time/very dark parts of the game, and since the flashlight wasn't exactly around in the 1890s, you could carry a lantern in one hand and a pistol in the other.
>Allow a detachable stock as an upgrade for a Mauser or Borchardt, turning the pistol into an accurate carbine that could use up pistol ammo later in the game for magdumping weaker enemies at medium range.

>>64118380
Those are cool ideas, plus you could add a silencer to the handgun to have more stealth stuff w/ the swords and knives

>>64118380
Make the lantern a special holy lantern that can deal minor damage/stun/slow certain enemies