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Is there anything more cringe than slapping a bipod and new barrel on a rifle and calling it a light machine gun?

bad thread

and also the rpk is cool and I hate you

>>64109016 (OP)
And yet, the Marines are switching to an all automatic rifleman squad in the 21st century.

>>64109095
And that's cringe

>>64109133
I'm going to guess you aren't a marine infantryman who has served in the past 5 or so years to have a opinion that matters...

>>64109016 (OP)
The RPK is an automatic rifle despite the name, the same way the SVD is a DMR and not a sniper rifle despite the name. Machine guns are crew served.

>>64109095
They're all being issued the same weapon with minor variations in accessories, but there's still a marine in each squad specifically assigned to the automatic rifleman role, and he carries about 3 times the ammo of a regular rifleman.

>>64109201
I saw a video recently that showed a marine redi-mag 2 40 round mags.
wonder if he was in that role.

>>64109250
No idea. I think the standard load for a marine automatic rifleman is 24 30-round mags. It makes sense that they'd try things to cut that number down.

>>64109016 (OP)
I don't understand? It cuts years worth of R&D and capital to create a new LMG platform.

>>64109016 (OP)
>Is there anything more chad than slapping a bipod and new barrel on a rifle and calling it a light machine gun?
Fix't'

>>64109016 (OP)
Remove the bipod, now its just too long and has a heavier barrel. On this gun the barrel isnt 24" like the rpk, only 20" and the barrel isnt super thick.

>>64109090
And also also the rpk isn't just a regular ak47 with a bayonet on the barrel.

>>64109141
Cringe reply

>>64109322
Is this that Canadian Chinese friendly AK? I forgot what it's called?

>>64109325
https://en.topwar.ru/76782-ruchnoy-pulemet-rpk-74-i-ego-modifikacii.html

>>64109328
yeah I should have just called him a fag and a nigger

>>64109330
type 81 and trudeau made it illegal last year

>>64109330
Type 81

>>64109341
>>64109342
I'm not up-to-date on Chinese firearms but with the latest ban does that mean there is no longer any whatsoever new Chinese firearms making its way to North America?

>>64109352
norinco sks still come in

>>64109090
I want RPK-201. Who can make?

>>64109095
Read between the lines. They’re replacing aged out rifles.

>>64109357
From Albania, I'm assuming but more along the lines of new production.

>>64109522
not sure on the year of production but they have always been unissued

>>64109449
It's been adopted while the 249 was dropped. This isn't 15 years ago where it was just in procurement.

>>64109342
Post her bussy.

>>64109016 (OP)
>New barrel + accessory
This is the AR fag’s solution to everything

>>64109342
cute, but in reality this person probably just looks like your average guy from the neck up
god I wish femboys were real

The “slapping a bipod and new barrel on a rifle and calling it a light machine gun” is a jewtuber trend, but the RPK was around before jewtuber trends and will be around long after.

>>64109016 (OP)
What is wrong with the RPK?

>>64109016 (OP)
>>64109028
>>64109277
>bipod affixed to the barrel

It’s like we’ve learned nothing

>>64118805
Belt-fed light machine guns, especially those with a quick change barrel, are superior for suppressing enemy positions due to the volume of fire they can maintain. Replacing them with automatic rifle that has a bipod and a slightly larger magazine is bad.

>>64118837
rpk is lighter tho

>>64118837
Notwithstanding provisions for a quick change barrel, the gap between beltfed and magfed MG is bridged with a big enough magazine. Either a quad stack or a drum. Capacities don’t need to be 100+ rounds. Something like 60-80 rounds is fine with a <600rpm cyclic rate. Changing mags takes like 1/10th the time of changing a belt, and can be done with 2 hands as opposed to 3 or 4 hands. so a slight capacity penalty isn’t really a penalty at all.

>>64109342
the hands are a dead giveaway

>>64109016 (OP)
yea, giving a shit about it

>>64109342
would

>>64118837
You wouldn't replace an LMG with an AR, though. That would be silly. Unless maybe the AR you're replacing it with is an M250, but that would be silly for other reasons.

>>64109016 (OP)
>no you can't make a dirt cheap LMG

>>64118834
It's not that bad. You end up with one POI for shooting supported and another for shooting off hand. What you don't want is to use an un-floated handguard to support the rifle, since there's no guarantee that your hand will end up in the same place every time.

people forget that belt fed lmgs are heavy as crap and usually need 2-3 people to operate efficiently
like sure you could take an mg3 along but wouldnt you rather have an mg36 if you were on patrol

>>64109016 (OP)
That's what a LMG is.

>>64119119
>mg3
That's not an LMG.

>>64119129
any machine gun thats man portable is technically an lmg

>>64109016 (OP)
>Is there anything more cringe than slapping a bipod and new barrel on a rifle and calling it a light machine gun?
Yeah
Calling THIS an "LMG"

>>64109342
sex

>>64119132
Factually incorrect, plenty of GPMGs are man portable

>>64119137
yes and those are all considered lmgs

If it doesn't have a quickswap barrel, it's an autorifle, not a machine gun.

>>64119139
Mmm yes the M60, classic LMG
Your statement falls apart

>>64119143
are you seriously saying the m60 isnt an lmg

>>64119133
what were they thinking

>>64119145
Does anyone other than you call it an LMG?

>>64109277
Sexo

>>64119132
In general, an AR moves with the squad (and is not a machine gun because it's not crew served), an LMG is just positioned at the start of the fight and mostly stationary throughout (although they can scoot if the situation demands it), an MMG is stationed semi-permanently at a defensive position, and a GPMG is a single weapon system that serves in both the LMG and MMG roles.

>>64119156
then where does squad automatic weapon fit into all this

>>64119113
Or you could just mount the bipod to the Handguard and not have to worry about any of that.
>but what if the barrel isn’t freefloated?
Every barrel should be freefloated. It’s an inexcusable crime against rifles and their users to not free float the barrel.

>>64119165
nah dude

>>64118956
Aside from the hands being a dead giveaway (I bet the digit ratio is dimorphic af in that troon), all hoplophiles are men. So “girl with gun” is either a troon, or a girl making gun-themed porn for a gun enthusiast audience. It’s never “girl who genuinely likes firearms”. About the only exception I can think of is Lena Miculek, but then Jerry is her dad, sooo.

>>64119168
The designer of that rifle is obviously a brainlet..

Hey I got a question, is there (I’m assuming there is) a benefit to mounting the bipod way out near the muzzle? Why not mount closer to the magwell? It gives you a pivot point closer to your body so there’s less hand movement to adjust point of aim, it applies less of an upward force on the Handguard/barrel, and it doesn’t move the gun’s center of mass further forward.

>>64119160
SAW is some dumb US-specific doctrine title that basically means LMG

>>64119151
Not the guy that you were responding to but it’s clearly not a SAW or an automatic rifle, and it’s not too heavy to have to be labeled an MMG. If you’re going to go the LMG vs GPMG thing to weasel, then you’re a hair splitter and need to grow a pair.

>>64119160
That's the name of the M249. If you insist on giving it meaning as a role, I guess it would be a single system that's used in both the AR and LMG roles.

>>64119178
It makes it more stable. Otherwise the recoil would make you spray all over the countryside like a BMP-T.

>>64119182
>and it’s not too heavy to have to be labeled an MMG
Brother an M60 is clearly an MMG. It weighs 23lbs, it's belt-fed, uses 7.62, and has a quick change barrel

>>64119184
>If you insist on giving it meaning as a role
SAW is a doctrinal role

>>64119197
gpmg means it can be used in multiple roles including lmg
mmg is just a made up term because stuff like the rpk and friends stole the lmg definition from the belt feds

>>64119200
It's not, it's the name of the program that resulted in the adoption of the M249. In a decade you'll still see people referring to the M7 as the NGSW, even though it doesn't roll off the tongue nearly as well as SAW.

>>64119208
>mmg is just a made up term
ALL TERMS ARE MADE UP

>>64119208
MMGs are original machine guns, Maxims and M1917s. The term LMG came around to distinguish guns like the M1919 and MG34.

>>64119132
No, it needs to be firing an intermediate rifle cartridge.

>>64119235
Plenty of countries use the FN MAG as their LMG.

>>64119133
>>64119150
>doesn't realize that by firing in bursts and with an assistant reload time is meaningless

>>64119262
No quick-change barrel
20 round magazine

That's OK I didn't want my LMG to be capable of >120RPM anyway

Post more fucking rpk photos.

>>64119235
The whole ZB26s family and its derivatives do not fire a intermediate yet they're LMGs

>>64109277
At least here it makes sense. The AUG has a unique (amongst rifles) quick-change barrel, so you can convert a regular rifle into an extended marksman or suppressive role in a minute, even in the field.

>>64118837
>, are superior for suppressing enemy positions due to the volume of fire they can maintain.
Fun fact: soviet doctrine didn't have small arms suppressing fire at all. All fire is done aimed with goal of target destruction. Stop projecting how do you ways on other people. Slavboos like to parrot "soviets military does it differently!". Well this is one of the things they did differently.

>>64119178
That makes it more stable against recoil.
Also aiming more precise. THink of lever. Same movement of stock would move barrel smaller amount if bipod rotation point is further away from stock.

>>64119228
>MMGs are original machine guns, Maxims and M1917s.
no, those were originally called HMGs, before their designation got stolen by large bore diameter antiaircraft/antimaterial machineguns like the m2 browning or the dshk

>>64119276
The BAR wasn't an LMG. It never was.

>>64119492
yes, unfortunate that the US used it as one

>>64109181
This isn't 1880s anymore granpa

>>64119535
It can be LMG. It's just that US military are retarded

>>64109016 (OP)
RPK makes a lot of sense for light/Para infantry as well as "mechanized" infantry where your IFVs would be your premier source suppressive fire and you would be doing A-B-C fire movement

>>64109322
Leave it to a trannoid faggot to not even take a picture of the gun, rather his grotesque body and nails that look like they were painted by a 4 year old.
YWNBAW

>>64119471
They were originally called machine guns and there was no other kind. Then they were split into light and heavy. Then .50s become the heavies and .30s became medium. What's currently called a medium machine gun is the original role of machine guns when they were first adopted in the early 20th century.

>>64109016 (OP)
Putting a scope on an assault rifle and calling it a DMR, and building 9mm versions of an assault rifle are also strong contenders.

MP5 being the only exception.

>>64119119
Arent all G36 based on this version?
>>64119129
it is if you arent a twig boy

>>64109016 (OP)
...and a drum you dumb bitch.

>>64118837
>logistics? never heard of her.

>>64109016 (OP)
bolting a wibbly wobbly tripod to a heavy machine gun and calling it a light machine gun?

Is there anything more cringe than making a faggot ass comment like you did and thinking its a decent post?

>>64109342
Everything about this picture makes me want to vomit.
YWNBW

>>64120358
the guy in your squad with the highest magnification should be your dmr guy though

>>64109342
>>64109322
As someone who ordinarily enjoys this thing, this ain't it chief.
Rethink crossdressing or better yet, rethink posting it on the internet

>>64109095
Getting rid of their tanks and bullshitting big daddy fed to get new weapons and equipment was the smatest decision the crayon eaters have made recently

>>64109016 (OP)
From anecdotes I've received, good number of RPK users would rather have a PKM. Much greater firepower at marginally heavier.

>>64121537
Yeah, but he should be given a dedicated DMR rifle then.

>>64120358
Do we add improvements like a freefloating barrel at least?
>building 9mm versions of an assault rifle are also strong contenders.
>MP5 being the only exception.
I was about to mention the MP5 being a G3 spinoff but yeah.
>>64121965
Does pic count as dedicated?

>>64122022
Yeah. At the least it's still better than a service rifle with a scope firing standard rounds.

>>64109016 (OP)
It's lighter than most machine guns and has the ability to fire sustained automatic fire. In what way is it not a light machine gun?

>>64109181
Someone carrying extra ammo for the gun does not make it a crew weapon lol.

>>64118837
Any machine gun that's being used as part of a squad of infatry and not as part of a static emplacement is far better served by a magazine then a belt, unless the box containing the belt is affixable to the gun itself. At which point it's essentially just a magazine.

>>64119143
What about an m60 makes it not an lmg?

>>64120193
Okay so than the m60 is certainly not an mmg because it's not used the same as machine guns when they were first adopted.

>>64122090
whos going to carry the ammo then

>>64109016 (OP)
Autorifle is based.

>>64109028
>your squad automatic weapon saar!
I wonder if anons can spot all the poos in this image?

>>64122490
what an AK47 would look like if it was Indian or Chinese

>>64122761
>AK47
You need to go back.

>>64118837
offensive lmg is better done with mags, defensive with belts. like the best koreans have (both options in use).

with belt loaded you have other options of reloading where you don't need to lift that top part, you just pull the belt through with a plastic handle. those czech SAW clones are like that, you can't even lift that part like on the SAW.
saves a second or two with the reload.

>>64122090
Having an assistant gunner or ammo bearer would make it an LMG, yes. RPK gunners don't typically get AGs, so they're not LMGs.

>>64109016 (OP)
The only thing more cringe is OP posting an image from wikipedia instead of her real gun

>>64122761
>>>/v/

>>64109342
You're cute, keep posting on /k/ so I have something to look forward to when lurking

>>64125041
Anon, your monkey brain is being tricked. A man’s asshole is NOT a portal to eggs.

>>64122850
> her real gun
Post AK disassembly speed-run or GTFO

>>64119235
LMG is more of a role. Lots of countries use M240s and PKMs as LMGs. If it has a bipod, it's an LMG.

>>64126097
Eh, doesn't matter to me ;)

>>64126206
Despite being the smartest animal on earth, man is quite dumb and easily tricked into sticking his dick inside a creature without eggs.

I don’t hate you, but such aberrations beg academic investigation.

>>64126109
The clip ends earlier, but I bet you she forgot about the gas tube locking lever

why op always got to be such a fucking faggot?

why op always got to be such a fucking queen?

>>64126261
Man's mind works weirdly, I'm sure my attraction is rooted not in Man's need for reproduction but for his need for desire, anyway, the guy's cute

>>64126589
>desire vs reproduction

Oh I agree, grug doesn’t understand what eggs are but just has an instinctive need to ejaculate inside the portal. Yeah the mating instinct is funny like that. Nothing is really done or considered consciously, more like all on autopilot.

>>64109342
I'd fuck that lady (man)

>>64109016 (OP)
If by cringe you mean "fucking baller" then yea, sure.

>>64127345
>fucking receiver deforms after 3 magazines

>>64109322
Fuck off faggot you're nasty.

>>64109016 (OP)
It’s a terrible idea. Snipers will mistake it for a LMG. Happened in Vietnam and soldiers were then told not to use bipods on their rifles.

>>64127969
^This anon fucks

>>64126109
>doesn't even clear it first
0/10, instant fail.

>>64130524
Yeah, no one should have bipods, then the snipers will just get bored and go home.

>>64119160
SAW just means squad automatic weapon
this usually means LMGs, because it only needs 1-2 people to use
but historically, automatic rifles and GPMGs have both been used as SAWs

the M60 is a GPMG, but it was the SAW during the 60s
the M246 is an LMG, but it is also a SAW
the bren gun is a glorified automatic rifle, but its also a SAW

a SAW demands certain traits to be good, like being small enough to be handled by grunts
but none of those traits are mandatory other than being capable of sustained automatic fire