Thread 64121624

Help me skip some homework. I want a 22 suppressor that is lightweight and compatible with a quick detach system, primarily for handgun use.

>rimfire can
>qd
Get an appropriate host and then we’ll talk about what sort of can should go on it.

They're mostly all very good. QD is a meme. Get something that shields the tube from debris.

>>64121643
I don't understand what you're saying. The host will be 22 pistols.

>>64121660
What's wrong with QD? It seems like common sense to eliminate the need to thread the suppressor onto the gun if possible. What issue comes up?

>>64121624 (OP)
No such thing. Get a sparrow and thats it. Homework done. I'm out, later dude

>>64121699
I’m not going to flatly state that there are no qd capable rimfire cans out there because I can’t be bothered to stay up to date on every fly by night garage company or major manufacturer rebranded oem out there, but I’m not aware of one. It would be an awful idea if someone did make one. You would know this if you’d done any homework at all.
> The host will be 22 pistols
While you’re shopping for one of those, do a bit of research. There are plenty of forums to troll. Alternately, give a vendor like silencer shop a call or check in at your friendly local gun store that you will hopefully at some point buying your first gun from. They can probably handle your suppressor transfer as well, so you may as well get to know them.

Do not come here for advice. Indians and nogunz know even less than you do, and you’ve demonstrated through the sheer retardation of your stated goal that you don’t know shit.

>>64121624 (OP)
>quick detach
what a retarded meme. try to quick-detach an object at 400F and you'll burn your hands badly.
Its fast-attach at best, unwind-while-shooting-and-get-a-strike at worst.

>>64121788
I bet you whine about Ukraine war threads.

>>64121815
They make these nifty things called "oven mitts" that seem to be all the rage in handling metal items at 400F temps.

>>64121817
>gets called out for stupid shit
>immediately starts talking about Ukraine
Pottery. I’m American. I give zero shits about Slavic retards slap fighting each other on the other side of the world. I’m angry that it came to /k/ and I’m angry that my government is spending money on Europe yet again, given our prior (lack of) returns on investments in the third world. The only positive is that I was hoping that somehow both Ukraine and Russia will lose the war, and it’s starting to look like I’ll be getting my wish.

Now that we know each other a little better, get off my leg. I don’t want a puppy.

>>64121788
I googled this because that was just a bit too difficult for op. There are in fact companies making qd mounts for rimfire cans, so if you’d rather screw your carbon- and lead-locked 4 lug adapter off your barrel instead of just using the threads by themselves, that option is available. I don’t recommend it.
>fucking gem tech too of all people
>remember when they were a legit company?

>>64121702
Buy what you want. You'll learn things.

Not sure about "best" but I like my Dead Air can

>>64121904
Looks like I struck a nerve.

The two to look at are the Bowers Icon and Liberty Precision Machine Spark in my opinion. I have an Icon and it's excellent.

>>64121624 (OP)
>quick detach system
just get 1/2 x 28 threads
It's universal and you won't have to scrounge for a mount 5 or 10 years from now when you want to suppress a new pistol / rifle
t. owns a Gemtech M4-96D w/ bi-lock

>>64121904
IIRC Griffin was doing a three lug style QD mount for rimfire. QD on rimfire is dumb tho. Its a good way to get shit carbon locked in place.

Sparrow is great, cheap, quiet enough, and has an internal shield to help with carbon locking. SiCo switchback is considered one of the quietest cans available. The dead air mask was 'the best' before that. The rugged oculus is great, their mustang is good too as long as you don't need magnum rating The OCL Titanium 22 and Energetic Nyx are lightweight and also very quiet. I also have a Texas Silencer Company (now known as Lone Star Silencers) scoundrel that I specifically got for my 10/22 with a tacsol x-ring barrel so I can break it loose from the threads without having access to the bottom of the can. That one is great, while its basically a sparrow without the internal shield, I can twist the monocore inside to break any carbon loose.

>>64121788
You could just explain why a QD somehow isn't practical for a rimfire instead of typing a whole paragraph that says nothing. I don't see how the caliber of the weapon is relevant here.

>>64121815
We're talking about a 22. Nothing is going to be that hot to the touch.

>>64121906
I don't like people who say that something is bad without explaining why it's bad. They usually don't really know what they're talking about.

>>64121966
Almost all 22s have that thread pattern.

>>64122051
What do you mean by "carbon locking"? I've used muzzle devices on 22s for years, mainly linear comps just to protect the muzzle, and I don't know what "carbon locking" is or why a suppressor would have this problem but not other muzzle devices.

>>64122334
>>64122351
tl;dr: supressors have a "blast chamber" behind the first baffle. Because .22lr is dirty as shit carbon will build up between the qd muzzle device and the inside of the supressor causing it to "carbon lock". If the suppressor is direct thread, you avoid this problem almost entirely. Now please, I beg you, use Google / Bing / Duck Duck Go

QD is a meme. I have a Rugged Oculus that’s treated me very well but .22lr is so quiet anyways that I don’t think it really matters. Just buy one that looks cool and is easy to disassemble because .22 is a FILTHY round that will do its best to carbon lock everything it can.

dead air mask or switchback are my votes

>>64122336
This. Even .22lr in full auto will not heat the suppressor to the point it will burn you.

>>64122341
>Almost all 22s have that thread pattern.
That's the point. OP wanted a QD. I've seen QD for 22LR but nothing that is as wide spread and simple as 1/2 x 28 threads.

>>64122336
>>64122732
t. rimfire canlets

>>64122351
Do you take that linear comp off on occasion? It will be gritty and difficult to twist off from carbon seeping into the threads. Normal muzzle devices will absolutely carbon lock, but a suppressor will do it a lot faster since it's containing the gasses as they cool.

>>64122430
Direct threaded cans will still carbon lock very readily, although you can slow it by putting some grease as antiseize/sealant on the threads. QD mounts put a lot of unnecessary complication into what is supposed to be a small and cheap suppressor. Tri-lugs can come loose or otherwise wiggle (but are probably the best QD option), ASR style QDs will get carboned up immediately, and barrel threads on rimfires are many times so short that a cherry bomb style taper mount wouldn't be removing a significant number of twists. Like the other anon said, all rimfires use 1/2x28 unless you live in euroland. Its much more cost efficient and universal to just do direct thread and not worry about some proprietary mount.

>>64122336
>>64122732
You guys don't shoot. Semiauto .22 absolutely will get a can hot enough to burn you, bolt action .22 will easily get hot enough to melt plastics and clothing. It would take a lot of full auto get a can glowing like a centerfire, but that doesn't mean it won't burn you.

>>64122880
... I'm assuming that a QD system would have to be compatible with 1/2"x28" threads because that is what all guns have.

>>64121917
Love my Mask HD. Wish the fucking puck wrench had a hole drilled in it for keychain use. Lost it at the range today and have to search the damn gravel tomorrow. Not a cheap silencer. But also nice, quiet, a little fatter (more volume inside), and short-ish. Don't use with a Tacsol 10/22 barrel ("silencer cage") though as it doesn't have a fixed base and it barely fits.

>>64121966
This, and frankly if you want to keep your guns zeroed for hunting or whatever they more-or-less live on your gun with the rare cleaning x times a year. Carbon helps them stay on, lol.

>>64122336
Not wrong most of the time. Today my silencer was cooler than my barrel believe it or not. Even in the hot summer sun it's hard (for me on a 10/22) to get it any warmer than "uncomfortable", but with my 5 15rd mags and a scope I'm not exactly breaking speed shooting records.

>>64122351
Dirt from shooting a bunch of cheap 22 pretty much glued on my Mask HD internally. Just cleaned it and haven't taken it off since...last Fall? Holy shit was that stuck LOL. Needed strap wrenches.

>>64122953
I don't doubt you, anon, but I'm curious what ammo and how many rounds/minute you're roughly shooting at? I was getting my barrel warm today (silencer oddly colder) but I was sighting in so I wasn't exactly magdumping. The hottest days of the summer in direct sun are brutal, though; I remember days last year or the one before where IIRC even my 10/22 without a silencer was getting hot. Between the heat and the sun nothing would cool down, only heat up. I probably took a chance at a high risk of heat stroke just to shoot a 10/22 in miserable weather more than a couple times lol. I love winter for the opposite; can't heat up my 22s without really trying.

>>64122953
Oh, BTW since I haven't seen Tacsol silencer 10/22 barrel anon in a while (you), I figure I'd let know what I've learned since (hopefully I didn't goldfish-memory a something I already told you before...which I think I might be doing). Believe it or not, what was more-or-less my ideal product to imitate the TacSol barrel with a factory Ruger barrel not only got featured at ShotShow but released and isn't vaporware. It's a little fat for a 22LR can and isn't styled exactly how I'd want, but it's made well and almost to my specs like they read my posts. Bizarre.

>>64123152
>goldfish-memory a something I already told you
>a something
wow that heat must've gotten to me at the range today lol.

>>64123134
To be fair, it's usually my son mag dumping the 10/22, tacsol kestrel (the AR), or his mk4. And by that point he's usually grabbing handfuls of random .22 out of my loose ammo sack which could be anything from cci standard to aguila hv. But I can get the 457 hot enough to be uncomfortable pretty quick too. It helps having a few loaded mags and the trigger set at a lb and a half. I have remnants of melted polyester on my oculus and whatever that Griffin can I have on the kestrel was called thanks to some shitty bags.

>>64123152
Last I remember you were still looking for that, good to hear it's not vaporware! Also good to see they jumped on the pin and weld idea too, IIRC they were only advertising it as a detachable heat shield at first. It sure seems like someone read our conversation about it and made changes, I don't think they had openings for locking collars at the time, they just expected you to unscrew the outer shell.

Old Pic is old. I need to take a rimfire range day soon.

>>64122340
You are adding complexity to a system intolerant of deviation. Baffle strikes namely. You're adding significant length to every weapon. You're adding weight to every weapon. You're adding cost to every weapon. You are locking yourself into one ecosystem instead of a universal mount (1/2x28). When the QD system you buy dries up, you're stuck with too few adapters. You're also just starting your journey. You're trying to make something "simple" when down the line you'll be buying more .22 silencers. No one stops at one.

And for what? So you can turn 1 rotation instead of 10 every couple of hours and possibly introduce eccentricity by adding several new mating surfaces? You don't understand why it's stupid yet, which is why I said get more experience under your belt or just listen to advice at face value.

>>64122340
I don't like newbies who think they have to go out and spend money on doodads their first time out without knowing why. So I tried to be nice and just say "do what you want."

You are adding complexity to a system intolerant of deviation. Baffle strikes namely. You're adding significant length to every weapon. You're adding weight to every weapon. You're adding cost to every weapon. You are locking yourself into one ecosystem instead of a universal mount (1/2x28). When the QD system you buy dries up, you're stuck with too few adapters. You're also just starting your journey. You're trying to make something "simple" when down the line you'll be buying more .22 silencers so you can just leave them on multiple guns. No one stops at one.

And for what? So you can turn 1 rotation instead of 10 every couple of hours and possibly introduce eccentricity by adding several new mating surfaces? You don't understand why it's stupid yet, which is why I said get more experience under your belt or just listen to advice at face value.

>>64122340
NTA you were talking to; that's exactly how I think too. I hate when someone says "thing you want is bad" and not "here is why you shouldn't do that + my experience". Maybe QDs will work for you but if your main goal is saving cash (?) so you don't have to buy a couple silencers I don't think it'll work how you want it to. Shit, if tax stamps go to $0 who's to say there won't be a new low-mid range of silencers below anything we've mostly seen (with a few outliers)?

>>64123235
(I might say it a little nicer but) This; I have a 1/2x20 10/22 (export models re-imported lol) and that damn 1/2x20 to 1/2x28 adapter adds almost an inch at least. I already have a long skinny silencer on a fucking 18.5" barrel so it's a damn pike of a rifle (I know, I'm spoiled with my want for shorter rifles I'm aware lol). Eyeballing it from here, it's got at least 1-1.5" over my vintage 22s which often have 22-24" barrels. Put anything remotely similar on a barrel (like a QD muzzle device?) and aw fuck you just added considerable length, especially on a pistol. QD stuff might make sense on other guns (ie. I only have 22LR silencers and I basically treat it like a scope where it gets put on and stays on one gun so IDK) but on a 22 I've just never found that to be the case. And FUCK are QD muzzle devices expensive. Tack on $100 additional on top for a P&W if you want the fucker to really stick on there. Then you have to have a silencer (or base cap for it) that's compatible with that QD. And still you should buy an alignment rod especially if you had any gunsmith work done (which you should have anyways!). Man fuck that. Let's say $150 for a QD muzzle device (which I think is actually pretty lenient remembering ones for ARs IIRC) plus a $100 P&W...jeez at $250 a Sparrow or SRD22x ain't far away once tax stamps go to zero lol. Plus, then the carbon and gunk goes all into one silencer, not multiple. Once that shit gets caked on and compressed inside? Fuck.

>>64121624 (OP)
TacSol Axiom imo.

>>64121815
That's what these covers are for, in addition to mirage

>>64123295
How the FUCK do you clean that? Seriously. Is the baffle stack permanently welded/1 piece? Looks like an ultrasonic only job. PS: I genuinely love the "generic black tube" look. Doesn't look like they paintfilled the text either, very nice, pretty much perfect. Also, length?

>>64123486
It's s classic k baffle. They come apart, he just has it stacked

>>64121904
Kys zigger

>>64121624 (OP)
You gonna need to get a good 3d printer that can print some of the "engineering" plastics and make one of those. Im pretty sure a qd 22lr can doesnt exist.

>>64122334
Or op could have googled it, and come here with informed questions instead of HUR DUR WANT SILENCER WHAT DO. If he’s not going to put in the effort, why should anyone else? I’m not even convinced that he owns a gun.

>>64121937
Off. The. Leg.

>>64121788
>OP asks question
>instead of answering writes a worthless paragraph answering none of his questions and tells him to google it
What a stupid fucking nigger

>>64124213
Nigger what in the fuck do you think image boards and forums are for? If you have no interest in discussing past a circle jerk then just kill yourself.

>>64121788
Imagine writing all this just to be a douche.

Sorry OP I came to lurk and don’t know much about 22lr cans either. My buddy has a carbon fiber one that is pretty sick but I don’t think it’s made anymore. Also I’ve only ever seen direct thread 22lr cans

>>64124012
Oh they looked welded or something lol. I was like "what the hell are they smoking over at Tacsol?" Something about the way they're made, IDK. How quiet is it? (compare to any other silencers if you have them)

>>64121624 (OP)
I want to buy this one for my ss mark 4
https://www.tbasuppressors.com/Peacemaker-22_p_51.html
but i can never get any info on this and the boomers who run this site wont respond to calls or emails

>>64124022
>anyone that doesn't care about ukraine is a zigger!!!
Literally no better than retarded leftists calling everyone else nazis.

>>64123486
>>64124012
As the other anon said, the baffles come apart. They just stack nicely and sort of click together. Things I really like about this suppressor - very clean design, no unnecessary greebles. Text is laser etched, no paint fill. It comes with a nicely machined wrench for the end caps. Most importantly, the stainless steel sleeve which goes around the baffles makes removing the baffle stack for cleaning MUCH easier. I'd consider this to be a critical feature.

Pairs perfectly with my TacSol barrel assembly of course, but the slim 1" diameter and clean design would pair well with anything IMO. I've considered getting a little 22 bolt action to use it with for max quiet.

As for how quiet it is - very. It's definitely hearing safe with subsonics, and probably regular ammo too. I have two other suppressors, and it's much quieter than both of them but not really a fair comparison because they're for 9mm / rifles.

>>64124423
Or magasharts calling everyone else a leftist for that matter.

>>64124022
>>64124232
>>64124224
Post hand and gun.
>you won’t, and we both know why

>>64123486
I don’t think there are any serious manufacturers today making sealed rimfire cans. They’re just too dirty. As for cleaning them up, ultrasonic works (be careful with aluminum) and the dip works better and requires no special equipment.

Of course, there’s no reason not to use both. My Specter gets the dip. My Hybrid and Osprey get ultrasonic. I haven’t cleaned any of my Cats yet but I suppose I can just do whatever.

>>64121815
What are gloves

>>64125020
The hux 3d printed .22 can and the B&T tiger are both non-servicable. Hux says to use their suppressor sauce to clean, B&T mostly sells the tiger in euroland and people over there can just go buy a new one when its full of bullshit. I don't trust that shit, my rimfire cans get way too dirty.

>>64121624 (OP)
A 5.56 suppressor.

>>64125233
Terrible advice

>>64125190
I stand corrected. I’m betting that the new Cat .22 can is also non-serviceable (3d printed and all that) but they already push a dip-style cleaning solution for their other cans (which are also sealed and 3d printed) so they’re probably opting for that here too.

I’d be comfortable with one that was made of basically anything other than sheet aluminum. Dip overnight, rinse and dry, weigh, and maybe ultrasonic if the weight didn’t go down enough, maybe not worry about it. A lot of cans sound a little better after they’ve been crudded up a bit. Can maintenance isn’t for autists.

Would love to get one of these things

>>64123220
Believe it or not, same gun, same ammo, same range, similar weather, it got hot this time. IDK how my silencer was colder than my barely warm barrel yesterday lol. Weird shit. Haven't shot in a while so might've been misremembering just a bit. Different barrel than I'm used to, though, so that might have something to do with it? IDK.

>>64123235
No, it's because I want a handgun to go from short OAL to suppressed and back again very quickly and smoothly and not be standing around taking 217 seconds to unthread a thread protector and then thread on a suppressor.

>>64124721
I've been looking for an alternative to the also very plain similar dark grey ~1" tube SIG SRD22x so I'm very interested in it. I love that thing especially for the price other than the wrench (awful) and not being able to get the baffles out when they get stuck (fixed base) and I'd get another, but...y'know, SIG. At $486 for that vs $459 for a Mask HD, though, can't say I'm too excited the thought of paying even more for a silencer just to use on 22LR. Have you ever heard both side-by-side or on similar guns? If it's quieter I'll definitely buy one but until then, Mask it is. But the Mask HD finish is godawful. Looks really good but scratches like it's cheap spraypaint. "Cerakote" my ass. No degreasing and no scuffing and one coat, maybe. But the SIG SRD22x IS only like $399 so it's not much cheaper than a Mask either.

>>64126618
How often do you REALLY think you'll be swapping a can on and off? A .22lr handgun has about a half an inch of threads at best, more like a third of an inch if it has a decent sized undercut. At 28 tpi thats 14 turns on the large end. Is it really worth half the cost of the can to save 10 seconds of wrist movement? If you have a threaded .22 and a can, you're just going to shoot suppressed. There's no point in shooting without. More than one pistol? With the money you'd blow getting an adapter and muzzle devices you could've just bought another can. "But, but, muh OAL and holsters." Blah fucking blah, there are holsters for suppressed .22s and you're not concealed carrying a rimfire. You're cherrypicking dumb excuses. At best, you will put the can on once at the beginning of a range trip, and taking it off once at the end.

>>64126240
Oh yeah, a dirty can is quieter for sure. I havent had much experience with the dips just yet, but the amount of crud flaking off my cans is ridiculous. I'm not the best at cleaning on a regular schedule, I'd probably let it go too far and plug it up to the point the dip couldn't penetrate.

>>64126598
Maybe you let it cool for longer than you thought the first day. The outer tube of the mask is pretty thin all things considered, it may be radiating away faster than you think.

>>64126637
If price is at all a concern, just get a sparrow. They're like $300 and available everywhere. SiCo is a great company with great CS if you do end up with issues. They will always fix the first oops for free, and recoring the second isn't terribly expensive either from what I hear. Hell, you may find somewhere with an old warlock still hanging around. Those were like $250 last they were available.

Since this is a 22 related thread I want to ask. I've been looking to get a 22 pistol. Im leaning to the ruler mk4 tactical since I want to run an optic. Anyone have any hands on time with them?

>>64126618
In what context do you think that length matters? Are you room clearing a bird house? Also it takes about 7 seconds to turn a suppressor on and another 7 off. Stop being a hyperbolous child and use your equipment before making stupid purchases.

>>64126637
It's the only 22 suppressor I've ever used so I can't give you any comparisons. Axiom was everything I wanted, I'm pressed with the finish, no complaints. I think it was well worth what I paid in the end. I'll never need another 22 can. If you hate the finish on the mask why buy it?

>>64127625
>If you hate the finish on the mask why buy it?
How was I supposed to know it scratched off like a lottery ticket before I bought it when no one mentioned it in my research? Lol. Either I'll fix it one day or I'll give it a layer of spraypaint. But it's quieter compared to a lot of other silencers including the SIG and Sparrow (IIRC SilencerShop had a video testing a couple silencers including the SIG, Sparrow, and Mask a couple years back with actual high quality meters, though the SIG may have had different guts at the time). Shit I'd still probably buy another if it's still the quietest 22/22mag silencer I can get. Just wtf is going on with that damn paint?!

>>64127203
Carrying the thing.

>>64126947
I do carry a 22

>>64124401
Any opinions on this?

>>64128883
Bro, don't buy something from a noname company that won't even respond to inquiries. Do you a hate yourself.

Get a tx22 toro, unless you like paying more for less. For suppressors look at sico sparrow, resilient Jessie's girl, OCL ti22, cat ben, ordered from worst to best. All are still good choices.

>>64121624 (OP)
still no 5
It has always been the best
22 silencers are simple things
don't overthink it

>>64121766
Checked and /thread.

>>64126320
Yep high IQ move is to go with a integrally suppressed pistol

>>64128847
Oh so you think you're a secret agent who's going to snap a silencer on before assassinating his robber who's already pointing a gun at him. We're dealing with a literal child, got it.

>>64121624 (OP)
Just get a NT4 or other gatelock 5.56 can.

>>64134511
Utterly retarded.

>>64121788
>useless twat loves to hear himself talk

>>64134310
No, I want to slap the suppressor on quickly to shoot squirrels.

>>64135514
>on/off in 2 seconds
>no walkoff
>no carbon lock

So retarded