Thread 64123068

hey guys would you be mad if i bought these three guns
>mini 14
>beretta 686 silver pigeon
>springfield 1911 loaded
i dont own any guns right now
i cant get an AR because i live in a state where they wont let me
i want to join a clay pigeon club because it is fun

>>64123068 (OP)
No, those are pretty solid choices desu for a ban state, and look for used 686s at the clay club or try to talk up a friendly boomer and see if he knows anyone selling one. While not optimal necessarily for clays, I really want a CZ Bob White G2 in 12ga, comes with a bunch of chokes and I like side by sides better than over-unders. Sporting clays is the jam and will stay fresh when trap and skeet get old, look for a range that has all 3.

>>64123068 (OP)
I mean if you've got the cash to burn why not, but there's cheaper alternatives if you care more about practicality. If you just want them because you think they're cool then I don't see why not. Keep in mind most of the clubs that do clay/skeet/trap are full of fudds and your enjoyment sometimes will hinge on how well you can tolerate their fuddisms

>>64123068 (OP)
>Noguns
>Not getting a cucked ban state AR
>Wanting to get into clay shooting
>1911 as first pistol
Your taste mogs 99% of /k/, great work!

>>64123068 (OP)
Caring about what makes other people happy is a good way to never be happy

>>64123094
Unironically ARs are pretty boring anyway. Old milsurp rifles are so much cooler

>>64123068 (OP)
youll be disappointed with the mini14

>>64123068 (OP)
mini 14 is a 5moa pile but I cant fault you given the state you're in. solid lineup overall

Those are solid chpices fuck these people.

>>64123143
>He doesn't know 5 moa is better than milspec

>>64123160
It isn’t

>>64123153
The mini 14 was and is still garbage

>>64123068 (OP)
>Mini 14
>686
>1911
Anon, from this list, I would assume you are in your late 40s? You sure you don't waste taste something more modern?

>>64123068 (OP)
Fuck Springfield

>>64123068 (OP)
I mean, they are reliable guns; your your shotgun choice is pretty pricey while your handgun is a budget option. I'm not sure if I should recommend a cheaper shotgun or a more expensive/nicer handgun.

>>64123122
>youll be disappointed with the mini14
Ruger increased QC in 2005 to reduce the number of lemons. No longer do people have to worry about 8-MOA

>>64123068 (OP)
perfectly fine weapons, don't let the larper faggots masturbating to SHTFWORLASDF or whatever dictate how you enjoy the hobby

just make sure to hit the range often and don't let them sit there

>>64123068 (OP)
No, that's a pretty typical collection for a ban state. Ban states also make 1911s more viable since mag capacity is a moot point.
>inb4 non-compliance
Maybe viable for HD where you can just swap with a 10rd mag, but good luck explaining that to the cops and court in an aggressively shitlib state if you're involved in a shooting in public away from home.
>>64123094
>Not getting a cucked ban state AR
They're cucked so badly where I live that they're objectively worse than other ban compliant rifles. Unless you're talking about traditionally stocked ARs like the SCR, those are worth it but they have poor controls. On top of that they're oftentimes significantly more expensive than used Mini 14s, which themselves aren't poorfag friendly rifles to begin with.

>>64123068 (OP)
Mad? No, but I would strongly recommend getting a cc-sized pistol before the 1911 or the Mini-14 (practicality says before the shotgun too but fun clay pigeon shooting > practicality).
A Model 10 seems like it'd suit your vibe.

>>64123143
>>64123256
Modern Mini-14s are fine. They stopped being 5 moa garbage rods in 2003.

>>64123068 (OP)
Ruger currently sells this as a "Tactical" version of the Mini 14. Available in 5.56 and .300 Blackout.

>>64123500
OP said he's buying a Mini-14 because he lives in a ban state, bro. Pretty sure every state that bans the AR would also ban the tactical mini 14

>>64123068 (OP)
I would be very happy. Those are all solid choices, classic styling and reliable functionality. The Silver Pigeon is awesome, a buddy has one and it's really nice. If you're serious about clays, it will serve you well for many years.

>>64123500
I love it when a plan comes together.

>>64123080
>I really want a CZ Bob White
You might *think* you want one, but you honestly don't. Steer clear of that turkshit. If you want a SxS that's not a piece of junk but is still affordable look for a used AyA Matador or a Beretta Silver Hawk.

>>64123068 (OP)
Yeah this sounds pretty based anon ngl

>>64123453
No, modern mini-14s still have the flier issues. I’ve read that they still do 12MOA. You can shoot one or two good groups and then randomly the gun will throw one in a random direction

>>64123068 (OP)
Don't buy the Loaded unless you're in CA where you have to get it because of the handgun roster. The Garrison is like $300 less for the exact same gun without the ugly front slide serrations and gimmicky Bomar sights.

>>64123068 (OP)
Why would i be mad at you buying guns

>>64123068 (OP)
I'm guessing you live in California.

No, nobody would be mad. These are your guns that you want to buy for reasons specific to your situation. They aren't bad choices if it is a restricted state.
>Beretta 686
It isn't a practical home defense shotgun, but that isn't what you are buying it for. You specifically want to shoot sporting clays. It isn't cheap, but no worthwhile OU is cheap. The 686 is the recommended starting shotgun for anyone who wants to take that sport seriously. It is a fine choice, and I recommend it wholeheartedly.
>Mini-14
An ok choice. It is more expensive and less capable than an AR, but not having to dance around legal complications is a big help. Be sure to buy a new one, because they were redesigned and heavily improved around 2008, with older models suffering horrible accuracy problems. The new models do need an upgraded rear sight (Tech Sights) because the factory one is absolutely worthless.
Rocking the magazines in/out is tricky but easy enough with practice. The factory 5s and 10s are hard to grasp so see if you can get some blocked 10/20s or at least John Masen mags which have longer bodies.

Also consider moving up to an M14 clone. They are considerably heavier and more expensive, but if you are being limited to 10 rounds there is logic to them being 308 rather than 5.56mm. When I lived in California once I made that switch I never went back, but it is a side grade since you are trading away a lighter/smaller gun with cheaper ammunition.
>Springfield 1911
I think they are ok. 1911s in general are great. They aren't the most modern, but they are popular for a reason. I recommend trying a variety of available pistols before committing to one because personal preference is a huge factor, but a 1911 should absolutely be on your try list.
>>64123143
They can do ~1-2 with the right ammo and an optic nowadays. Old models you'd be lucky to get under 5 without at least an accustrut.
>>64123500
Not ban state compliant though.

>>64124442
If he buys those guns that's three less guns that you could hypothetically own. He's basically taking guns right out of your hands and you should kill him for it.