Thread 64128089

Why is the US military so far ahead of everyone else technologically?

>>64128089 (OP)
they don't suffer from face-culture like you do.
for instance they would never roll out an experimental prototype 4+++ gen aircraft, intentionally fly it low and slow over populated cities so people take pictures of it, and then shill it as a 6th gen aircraft in western spheres when they're nowhere close to that level of technology.

why are you so passive-aggressive btw, identified chinkshill? it almost feels like you're embarrassed to be such a hapless, directionless unpaid shill.

>>64128107
this nigga mad lol

>>64128114
>t-this nigga mad lol
you're clearly upset because your chinkshilling thread is dead in the womb and you were instantly detected lel.
i hope you find a job someday, identified chinkshill.

>>64128107
>literal schizophrenic dipshit trying to create a boogeyman
Check your mental health.

>>64128120
>trying to create a boogeyman
who are you trying to fool, exactly?
there have been thousands of these extremely passive-aggressive pro-china threads made by the exact same schizophrenic retard on /k/, pretty much everyone knows what they look like at the outset, now.
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64093362/
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64084660/

>>64128119
im not op lol

>i hope you find a job someday

this nigga projecting

>>64128127
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64013732
it doesn't take long when perusing the archive to find more of these lel, chinkshill is an obsessive retard who likes to paint himself as smug and unbothered when he's probably wasted 20% of his waking life making these embarrassing threads, getting discovered, and then spamming the exact same folder of images over and over again.

>>64128127
>implying there's only one "chinkshill"
Lmao even. Again, check your mental illness. Seeing dipshits like you posting just to derail threads regardless if they're good or not is tiresome. gfys

>>64128127
>>64128141
im a chinkshill, those chinks are on a roll, i was a chickshill before all the su57 threads, i shilled the j16, j20, i shilled it all, they make good stuff for the price

>>64128133
>l-lol
mhm, the chink notorious for constantly samefagging and acting like he "just entered the thread" that he made himself is just not doing that in this one specific instance.
>>64128141
>just to derail threads
this thread was never going to be on rails in the first place, it was not made in good faith, it is malicious shilling attempt and therefore deserves no good grace.
>implying there is only one "chinkshill"
there are multiple, but rapechink and the chinkspammer are the most prolific and this thread's OP has all the hallmarks of the latter.

>innocuous question
>picture of a chinese 4th gen
>implication implication implication implyingly
>thread below is filled with a bunch of very organic posts that keep putting the J-36 or other chinkshit on the same level as an actual 6th gen and trying to ask loaded questions built off that mistaken assumption.

>>64128089 (OP)
Enemies boast about imaginary technology they have ready to fight wars with.
The US builds weapons actually capable of defeating supposed technology.
The idiots were lying and are thus 2 steps behind, probably more but who really knows.

>>64128152
>as an actual 6th gen
That are the retarded americans trying to get funds for the stupid ngad, go to wiki and check the sources of the "J"-36 fan fic, it's all written by americans. The only thing China actually did was a fly over, that's all, 0 official or indirect statements.
The rest is you creating a boogeyman like a fucking retard. If you're so predictable then people will create more copycats for dipshits like you THAT STILL DERAIL THREADS THAT TRY TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE OR THERE'S A CONSTRUCTIVE SUBTHREAD.
gfys

>>64128152
it's honestly surprising that he's incapable of changing his patterns and at least trying on some level to not use the exact same tactic every single time, basically every single thread he makes follows that exact pattern.

>>64128152
chinese missles took out french planes a month back, thats pretty neat no?

we have lots of money and a lot of talent. smart people around the world want to live here.

>>64128165
>smart people want to live here

so do dumb people, and they are outnumbering smart people 20 to 1

>>64128160
>that are the retarded americans
i never said they were of chinese nationality
most of the chinkshills are just third worlder brownoids with a chip on their shoulder.
>trying to get funds for the stupid NGAD
NGAD already has funds.
>The only thing china actually did was an intentional fly over, at low altitude over populated areas where people would take pictures of their super sekrit project, that's all, 0 official or indirect statements.
yep, but what happened as a result, with anti-US contrarians going wild with it, was the exact thing they wanted to accomplish by doing that.

>>64128164
actually US missiles fired from an F-16 took out french planes a month back
>b-but you have no proof!
neither do you, which is why everyone obviously suspects you of being a shill when you pull out that line, nobody who isn't shilling for a particular country would constantly assume every time the topic comes up that it was the chinese plane.

>>64128107
You are in meltdown mode anon, better touch some grass

>>64128175
>i never said they were of chinese nationality
I'm talking about retards like this USAF General pushing the retarded idea of "6th gen race" to get more money. The rest is your retarded fanfic about "chinkshills", that aren't pro china or chinese. gfys
"In September 2022, United States Air Force (USAF) General Mark D. Kelly, head of the Air Combat Command (ACC) suggested China was on track with the aforementioned characteristics for its six-generation fighter program,"

>yep, but what happened as a result, with anti-US contrarians going wild with it,
Nice fanfic.

>>64128175
i mean you are blaming others for being zhictozo yet you think pakistan used a f16 with american missles (LOL) instread of a j16 with chinkmissles, there is no arguing with you, someone else started this thread in bad faith but all you do is make it worse

>>64128184
So you've just dropped the mask completly at this point and proven anon right.

https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64121071
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63990325
here's some more, note how he's still trying to play the victim after all of this
>>64128184
i'm not the one spamming chink threads near-daily, i think you might be projecting just a little bit.

>>64128187
>yet you think pakistan used an F16 with american missiles
i don't, they could have, but i have as much proof as you do (nothing), it was meant to illustrate a point but clearly it flew over your head.

>>64128190
I mean chick machinery does warrant a thread everyday, so its kind of justified

>>64128195
its a well established fact acknowledged by almost all parties and media my nigga

>>64128197
how so? what are we going to discuss? the zero information we still have about any of these aircraft, other than the fact that the J-36 needs 3 engines to get off the ground, we still know exactly nothing about it, so what is the point of all these malicious passive-aggressive threads? why are they here?

>>64128199
it isn't at all though, there is essentially still no proof of what shot the rafales down. so that's a lie.

>>64128197
No it doesn't.
Its literally just china-shills pushing the same state propaganda near-daily, usually not even keeping themselves to a single thread when they get really worked up.

>>64128203
we know nothing about the b2 or f22 yet discus it constnatly, plus some new tank/ifv pics dropped and they warrant disussion. only the us and china have flying wings (not even might russia has one), it warrants discussion

>>64128211
>state propaganda

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/how-pakistan-shot-down-indias-cutting-edge-fighter-using-chinese-gear-2025-08-02/

>>64128215
>tabloid quoting a think tank, neither with any substantial proof
yeah, i remember some retard making a whole thread around this article in the past and getting mocked for it. that's not proof.

>>64128089 (OP)
>two contrails
Only shit, the retarded chinsects are actually lugging around a third fucking engine, the fuels to run it, and incurring the HUGE fucking drag penalty of the giant intake and compressor and hot section spinning in the airstream for nothing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Also, does your pathetic cuck coward ass not have a life? I went to be, woke up and you're STILL on /k/ shilling for the CCP like the no life pathetic cuck loser we all know you to be. You fucking pathetic reject failure at life. Time to KYS.

>>64128221
>tabloit

see there is no argueing with you, your just a pathetic lozer

>>64128212
>we know nothing about the B2 or F22
we have a pretty good idea of these aircraft, what they've actually done, been involved with, and also their stealth characteristics, so that's a false equivalence. we've also seen them up close and know that they have actual stealth coatings with actual stealthy surfaces that minimize small geometry details, which the J-20 for instance doesn't do.

>>64128228
>lose argument
>t-there's no arguing with you
sorry that article isn't the slamdunk you were hoping it to be, too bad.

do you notice how the insisting upon that specific narrative is what activates people's suspicion? there is literally nothing anyone has to gain from specifically crediting the downing of the rafales to a chinese aircraft other than the chinese and their unpaid shills around the world.

>You're mentally ill for calling out my obvious shill thread #37878!
Yeah call us schizos while you post the same fucking thing over and over, retard.

>>64128238
the article is actually a pretty good slam dunk, you are just continiously shifting goalposts
>>64128232
your argument is mine but reversed yet you want me to take your word but wont do the same thing for me

again, you are a sad loser eroding this board with the idea that you are helping it, you are not

>>64128243
total chink death

>>64128244
>your argument is mine but reversed
how? you're just assuming random shit about an aircraft that keeps flying over cities so that people take pictures of it. i'm not doing that about the F22 and B2.

>>64128244
>>64128223
Answer me, you pathetic fucking no life loser. Also, still waiting on the hand pic from last night three shill threads you made about the J-36, chinsect robots, and the MBT...Where is that dysgenic deformed, shit colored claw of yours? You have no life, as you shill literally 24/7/365, so, you have ample time to take a pic of that nasty claw of yours. Which tells me you're mighty ashamed of it.

>>64128253
a reuters article credibly detailing how chinese weapons turned out to be better than expected is not really assuming random shit

>>64128257
nigga i just got here, i left /k/ like a year ago when you had to wait 2 minutes for captcha

Making a worse plane than the b2/b21 at 1/00th the cost that still can do 90% of the mission set seems like a pretty good deal to me

>>64128089 (OP)
>it's using only 2 engines
Some cruise optimisation going here with 3 engines trickery.

>>64128258
Based on what proof, exactly? Appeal to authority isn't proof, nor is it a valid argument technique. Only used by those that don't actually have proof, and are trying to desperately get you to believe them.

>>64128258
i was talking about you reply to >>64128244
you illiterate retard
also regarding
>a reuters article credibly detailing
lmao no
they're "credibly detailing" a story they were told by a think tank that has no involvement in any of it and knows nothing more than anyone else. that's why people aren't taking it seriously, my friend.
>b-but the think tank claimed they talked to US personnel!
cool, i can claim i'm the mayor of timbuktu, tabloid journos do this all the time.

>>64128268
*your reply to >>64128232

>>64128266
its more proof than you have provided for your 'stealthcoating' argument.

How about you give me proof about b2/f22 specs without logical fallacies

>>64128264
>nigga i just got herw
No you didn't. Stop the bullshit. You are extremely easy to spot. YOU NEVER CHANGE YOUR SHILLING TEMPLATE.
>Making a worse plane than the b2/b21 at 1/00th the cost
How much does the J-36 cost, as there's literally only one prototype and it's not in production. And seeing how the J-20 costs $120 million USD to produce, I highly doubt that.
>that still can do 90% of the mission set seems like a pretty good deal to me
What, exactly, can it do? We know literally nothing about it beside what the outside looks like, and that it can fly at low speeds and low level for at least 1 minute for propaganda photos.

gee whiz, i sure do wonder who made this thread, what a mystery this could be!
glad it got derailed early, if it's not an earnest thread it doesn't deserve earnest responses.

>>64128107
>why are you so passive-aggressive btw, identified chinkshill?
I recognize Russian troll style
Called "reverse".
>post dead Ukrainians with commentary "dead Russians"
>wait for lulz
>when somebody finally catches you say "reverse!"
It's started like 15 years ago on Russian 4chan and became at such wide scale that Russians don't post anything straight anymore. OP posts are always reverse posts now.

>>64128278
man that's pathetic, so that's where that tactic comes from.
they really act like fucking petty teenage girls, don't they?

>>64128273
I'm not that other anon. The majority of /k/ hates you, and knows exactly what your no life ass does and how to spot you. Don't think it's just one anon. What stealth coating argument?

>>64128271
>>64128268
i mean might aswel discredid everything people like hi sutton have said as they are practiaclly also think tanks. For recieving credible information about classefied shit thinktanks are not a bad option

>>64128286
The same think tanks describing the shahed as a $15,000 drone for years? even after the leak?

>>64128273
sorry but the person you replied to is not me, schizo.
>stealthcoating "argument"
it's not an "argument" it's just true, we know for a fact that the J-20 has significantly worse stealth than american stealth aircraft for a variety of reasons, a few of which i already listed.

>>64128286
>hi sutton
You mean the retard that reads Russian and chinsect propaganda articles about their wonder waffles and treats them as 100% fact even though he can't verify anything in them? Yeah, a bong cuck retard.

>>64128286
Jesus christ your ability to type in English is just completly disintegrating.

>>64128286
>hi sutton
he's an actual reliable source that mostly backs what he says up with proof and makes it clear when he doesn't know something for sure and is just guessing or hypothesizing.
just making a tabloid article and saying
>a think tank told me
is not very convincing, sorry.

>>64128284
I was not joking when i told you i hadnt visited in a year, there are more chinkshills than you know on this board, and we will keep shilling and growing larga, since china is fucking crushing it
>>64128276
i didnt make this thread, coudlnt you see that with the posters and replies?

if that is the case then why deduce >>64128223, same could be said to you

>>64128300
yea fuck whoever this rand corperation is, what the fuck does he know

>>64128295
Anyway, you pathetic no life loser, unlike you, I actually have a life and shit to do. I'll be going out now, see you hours later, as I know you'll still be on /k/ shilling for the CCP like the pathetic cuck you are. Don't melt down too much while I'm gone! I would like to be there for it.

>>64128301
>i am a chinkshill and admit this freely
>b-but i h-haven't visited in a year
haha, sure lmao.

also
>since china is fucking crushing it
POOR CHOICE OF WORDS KEK
the only thing they're crushing is chinks into bug soup

>>64128307
> I actually have a life and shit to do. I'll be going out now, see you hours later

lol the jokes write themselves

Im not here in a view hours or tomorrow, i got better things to do than fuck up threads about instresting chinese weapon developments

>>64128310
okay admittedly you got me there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM

>>64128301
Nigger, you are the same fucking pathetic no life loser from every other CCP STRONK!!! threads. Nobody buys the, "I just got here!", "I just woke up" bullshit excuses. Might aswell just own being the no life pathetic loser cuck shilling for a foreign people that hates his guts and thinks he's a subhuman. You would look a little less pathetic, then.

>>64128314
>instantly copies post made by person mocking him
we both know you'll still be shilling here when he comes back lel.

>>64128314
>i got better things to do
No, no you don't. We all know this is a lie. KEK. At least be believable. This is literally all you have in life. Hence, the 24/7/36 shilling on fucking /k/ of all places.

>>64128320
you constantly admit to being chroniccaly on /k/, not me nigga

>>64128310
>>64128107

>>64128294
>using the J-20 on-ground of Zhuhai as a reference for the rest of J-20 in service
You're as retarded as helmetard posting the rusted F-22 Block 20 for air shows.

for those who want to discuss chinese stuff earnestly, you should direct your anger at the targeted pro-china shilling campaign that made this impossible, not the anons responding to it.
also what the fuck is there to discuss about these 3 new chinese prototypes anyway? all the stuff that can be inferred from how it looks has already been discussed 100x over and there's no other info about them.
chinese ground vehicles are much more interesting and there is actual information regarding them, which is why those threads tend to do better.

>>64128301
>I'm not a shill but China is implessive!
Okay Chang.

>>64128329
>completely incomparable collision not caused by trying to run over a non-threatening coast-guard cutter doing it's own thing in it's own EEZ and then failing so hard you nearly sink one of your own.
you tried

>>64128332
even china itself very blatantly says that they don't have anywhere near the RCS of an F-22 or F35 thoughbeit.

>>64128324
>>64128322
>>64128320

as a distingushed chickposter i will now leave this thread to continue breaking down my shed, looking forward to another chinkposter replacing me in a couple of hours, we are the borg nigga, we clown in this bitch, also stop sabotaging ernest discussion on chinese aviation hardware

>>64128346
Impressive, may I see the PLAAF or Chengdu source?
The only thing I've seen posted are old RCS sim (kinda useless) and the trash made by an indonesian spammer.

>>64128350
>i am a literal shill
>stop sabotaging my "earnest discussion"
you can't make it up, folks.
>i will now leave this thread sure
there's like 20 chinkshills on this board, all of which waste half their day shilling on multiple threads while ban-evading, you're not an "army" lmao.

>>64128350
this shit reads like one of those middle-aged women who makes a post where she says
>finally some me-time, time to enjoy this tub of icecream and bingewatch this show i love, tonight is all about me and i'm gonna have so much fun!
and then proceeds to spend all night checking her phone to see how people respond to her post.

Could this bomb taipei without getting shot down?

>>64128208
>Pakistanis: it was a j10
>Us officials: it was a j10
>French officials: it was a j10
>Dassault ceo: it was never shot down and the whole thing is fabricated
>Dassault: our CEO is a retard, it was a j10
>Anon: it was a f16, trust me bro
I can't believe Pascal daloz is shit posting on /k/ to cope with his first rafale loss.
Can you make SolidWorks like, less shitty, btw?

>>64128373
No.

>>64128326
>NO U-U!
typical

>>64128378
>it was an F-16, trust me bro
i didn't say that, i said that statement would have as much proof as you shilling for the J10: zero
>US officials: it was a j10
according to a faceless think tank that talked to "US officials"
also "US officials" is always used by your ilk because it's so fucking easy, some literal 5th columnist like greene is still a "US official"
>french officials
source? all i read them saying is that they confirmed the rafale was shot down period, not what shot it down

so basically you're still clamoring onto this one event because you finally thought you had something, that's why it matters so much to you.

>>64128329
Holy fuck America in shambles.

Chinese steel is fucking strong

>>64128089 (OP)
Only industrial powers can even attempt to compete with us. We ally those, and they outsource their defense to us, in exchange for good treatment under Pax Americana. The only exceptions to this (sizable enough to matter) are China, Brazil, Russia, and maybe one other country I've forgotten.
None of those have truly caught up, and the process of exporting their way to wealth naturally changes their political dynamics and cultural sensibilities.
Anyone rich enough to produce the machines and create worthy institutions to fight us both knows better and has few reasons to.
This leaves them without a reason to invest in real means of dealing with peer powers.

The only evidence of the india - pakistan combat were shotdown airframes and PL-15(E?) with detonated warhead. If you have more info post it, probable some rajesh got jailed for recording evidence and posting it on the internet.

>>64128390
>chinese steel cracks instead of bends
>both the chink destroyer and coast guard cutter suffer massive damage
right, so chinesium is still chinesium, AKA shit-tier.

>>64128388
do you think a us official would come out and effectively kill the export of the f16 and accompanied missle programs?

>>64128399
the missed PL-15's yeah.

>>64128403
all the more reason to lie about it being one of the other aircraft in pakistan's repertoire, like the mirage or chink jet.

>>64128405
it missed, and by chance a downed rafale was found next to it, nothing to see here

>>64128089 (OP)
24% of global GDP, baby

>>64128408
>next to it
they weren't found next to it though, lmao.

>>64128405
>t. no source anon desperate to insert his bs
Pathetic.

>>64128399
What shot down airframes? I remember the frogs saying a poo fucked up and plowed a Rafale into the dirt. I don't remember shot down ones.

>>64128421
>t. no source anon desperate to insert his BS
it is pretty pathetic how badly he wants chinks to have a win against a western aircraft yeah, even if it was against one piloted by jeets, it's that important to them, it reeks of desperation.

a century long head start while also having the entire economy pump itself into the military complex.

>>64128426
>? I remember the frogs
>"In response to certain press reports quoting Dassault Aviation Chairman and CEO, Eric Trappier, about the Sindoor operation, Dassault Aviation formally denies that Eric Trappier has made any operational or technical comments regarding the use of the Rafale in this operation," it said in a statement on Tuesday.
So any "I remember the frogs" is officially void.

Frogs are in damage control mode doing contradictory claims (like the Dassault CEO vs PR of Daussault) and blaming China for the "anti-Rafale campain"

>>64128446
>still no actual proof
you're in damage control mode lmao.
you genuinely thought you could let that little narrative slip by and people didn't notice you were just intentionally assuming a chinese plane shot it down for no reason lmao.

the longer you keep struggling and fighting for it the harder it becomes to deny that you're literally just arguing about this because you're a shill and want a win on the board for china, not because you're genuinely engaging in honest conversation.

vely olganic thlead

>>64128456
>reflecting by mimicking
Pathetic. Gasligthing only works with retards. This is the only thing confirmed >>64128399, everything else is self-insert bs.

>wherein red blooded Americans go full zigger to defend the tantrum project from Dassault from 30 years ago that was made to spite the Eurofighter project
The plane (and its carrier) can't even maintain French interests in Mali and you niggers somehow balk at the prospect of it having been shot down by a Chinese jet
Not that I'm surprised, while the Chinese culture has been described as face saving, the model for success in America is precisely what you monkeys are aping right now - delay, defend and deny, as if controlling the popular narrative is going to magically bring back the rafale and turn the j10 into a less lethal competitor.
Clutch them pearls tighter, it's going to get so much worse.

>>64128461
Just wait til china suffers another retard moment and he'll spam his millenia old han stronk rape obsession, outing himself as being the muttiest mutt to ever mutt in the process.

>>64128462
>reflecting by mimicking
that's what you've been doing the whole time, yes, but it's not very smart of you to admit that.
>gaslighting only works with retards
good thing it doesn't work on /k/ then, but it sure worked on you.
>>64128470
>go full zigger
you're the only one doing that, nobody else tried to insist that the rafale was shot down by one specific aircraft, that's you, you so desperately want this to be true you've been fighting half the thread for it, if you weren't a shill it wouldn't be that important to you, but clearly it is.
also i'm not american lmao, people from basically every civilised country make fun of your behaviour.

>>64128474
nah, this is a different guy, rapechink has a different writing style, see https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63947072

>>64128470
They are like headless chickens because days before they're ridiculing euros after their stock market was booming. And yet 40 years ago they did a report (more like a self marketing) making fun of SNECMA and labeling them as an " engine maker for third world shitholes"
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP87T01127R001300050010-8.pdf

>>64128485
>also i'm not american
The Pascal daloz shitposting on /k/ hypothesis has just become a theorem

>>64128089 (OP)
Fat stacks of cash combined with institutions that find and fix problems instead of hide them.

>>64128499
i'm a european, unlike you, chinkshill.

>>64128510
t. pajeet

>>64128498
you're trying too hard with the D&C there, shill-sama

>>64128512
that has been chink's main handbook instruction when it comes to shilling the J10, narrative, yes.
you're trying to use this board's hatred of pajeets against them, too bad you already identified yourself and aren't transparent enough to get away with it.
verlepte kankermongool.

>>64128516
>more uncalled gasligthing
You already got your answer: >>64128462; now Go fuck yourself.

>>64128373
Pretty much yes. Taipei is easy because no air defense will exist after a day. The question is Guam and Hawaii.

Yeah it's a mystery, maybe because the military budget is a trillion dollars a year

>>64128526
>chinkshill genuinely trying to say other people are gaslighting
lmao, you're trying too hard

>>64128523
Yeah, its really blatant when they try to cry about indians in an attempt to "blend in" while deflecting attention from their own shilling.

Eastern shills in general seem to love deflecting attention to other countries whenever something goes wrong for them, no matter how little it has to do with the current context.

>>64128523
kanker

era van hamburger vliegtuigen is voorbij, het is het decenium van de poepsjinezen

>>64128527
except it will because chinks are stupid enough to think they'll be able to take on a supersized version of iwo jima
>the question is guam and hawaii
it's not even a question, all your chinkshit will get spotted and acquired the moment it's fired.