Thread 64129380

Why does the Abrams suck so much? We should've bought Leopard 2AV when we had the chance even if Germans cheated on the trials.

>>64129380 (OP)
Who's we? Because you're definitely a third worlder. And it's because your shithole doesn't have enough money.

>>64129380 (OP)
maybe you should make less useless threads with an obvious slant, pidar

Why does it suck?

>>64129380 (OP)
>Germans cheated on the trials
they did?

>>64129380 (OP)
>2AV mentioned
bvsed. it was a shame americans noticed it was too fast. even stripped of its armor and most electronics it was still proven superior to abrams prototypes until the last steps of the program.

>>64129380 (OP)
/popcorn

>>64129388
How come that such a small and slow bomb makes such huge explosion of such heavy vehicle? Only serious answers please.

>>64129432
Its a T-55 with an exposed ammunition carousel on the inside, so a solid hit detonates all the ammo

>>64129413
yes. the armor was entirely stripped.

>>64129432
Soviets didn't care about safety or stability, their most insensitive explosive was "Comp B" (TG-40), the rest goes from blyat to turbo blyat.
>cumrade I want to use Hexal for the HE shells
>But Sergei, that would turn the tank into a bomb if-
>You're going to the gulag. Vitaly you're the next director

>>64129436
So drones would be less effective if ammo is better stored? Do they have some explosives, some armor penetrator or the combination of these? Do they have 100% destruction after hitting the target effectiveness?

>>64129457
cont. I mean, destroying the tank with an another tank's gun I can understand. But I have just thought that destroying it with an equivalent of a hand grenade is just wtf. Might have been sleeping under some rock for the last few decades, idk.

what happened to the m1e3? Why aren't they live testing it against drones in ukraine?

>>64129457
Its more about crew survivability because at the end of the day its either a tank kill (ammo cooks off outside the tank through a blowout panel) or its a tank kill (ammo cooks off in the crew compartment).

>>64129491
>why aren't we giving the 2nd most corrupt country in europe our coolest shit???

you know half the guns that got sent to ukirane were just stolen and sold off.

>>64129499
>according to pidor4654TelegramChannel
The only evidence of retards were 10 yo pics, captured weapons and spent tubes...

>>64129380 (OP)
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1956783579977126186
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1956714639749791955
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1956713241192661086
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1956683568660217956
Yeah.

>>64129380 (OP)
Most videos of the tanks look like they're unsupported, and improperly used. You see the tanks taking point and shooting guys point blank up close. They're probably supposed to have some sort of formation and security around them taking care of anything before they ever get close to enemy infantry. When they were used by american forces they were hitting targets a mile away or more, and they probably made sure they were going to have stupid on foot sneak attacks be any possibility

>>64129509
The US made numerous thunder runs as a doctrinal armor-first push. But 20 years ago all infantry had was RPGs, now they have top attack ATGMs and remote-controlled mines at the company level.

>>64129525
>20 years ago all infantry had was RPGs
Kill yourself fagot

>>64129549
Prove me wrong.

>>64129505
ok then where did all the FNCs and F2000s go? we also haven't seen a single sub2k despite thousands being sent.

>>64129380 (OP)
huh?

>>64129552
NTA but the javelin went into service in 1996, almost 30 years ago.

>>64129387
Egyptian, and now it's time for some negevpost

>>64129552
>Prove me wrong.

Pic is from 1991

>>64129607
The entire post was that there weren't any armored pushes versus infantry armed with those because they weren't ubiquitous on the battlefield until now.

>>64129608
>Egyptian
>posts Negev-chan

>>64129617
So... Hedgehogs? Mortars? WWII technology? How does that argue against what anti-armor infantry was equipped with?

>>64129588
that pic is from like three years ago dude and im pretty sure its the only pic of an f2000 in ukraine

>>64129620
Have you ever seen russian concept of combined arms? Plenty of webms for goreleaf.

>>64129621
Not me, OP, it's not the first time he raids here.

>>64129629
Most things filmed are usually low-intensity from done operators or go-pros. I would love to see some early invasion footage where they actually had the hardware and see devastating losses in their actual push, but if there's footage then nobody released it.

>>64129626
Go to YT and search for "F2000 Ukraine"
Stop being a retard.

>>64129624
>Hedgehogs? Mortars? WWII technology?

It's a battery of AT-3 Sagger wire-guided anti-tank guided missiles. The AT-3 was already quite an obsolete design by the time of the Yugoslav Wars, having entered service in 1963 and seen extensive use in the Vietnam War and Arab-Israeli conflicts.

>>64129652
Were these used in the Iran Iraq war?

>>64129765
>I'm only pretending to be a retard
Literally the first video:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lMV-Ij163Ak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en1hkkQhcpY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYHnBaH5ZEQ
https://nitter.poast.org/EastMilsim/status/1741371557610483793#m
https://nitter.poast.org/war_noir/status/1614961927553445896#m
https://nitter.poast.org/war_noir/status/1580903918867210240#m

>>64129681

Yes they were, by both sides. Persian Gulf War and the Iraq War too. They actually proved quite effective against Western tanks until the Israelis came up with the technique of blanketing suspected AT-3 positions with artillery to kill the exposed operators.