Thread 64130944

>buys glock
>requires $500 worth of aftermarket upgrades to be good
lmao do people really?

can you name the upgrades? without hyperbole, can you explain whats wrong with a stock glock?

how about posting a pic of a gun you own too.

>stock image
Hide thread.

Shit b8. Stock glocks are the best duty pistols ever made.

>>64130958
Red dot

Rd0py

>>64130968
>>64130958
plastic sights that break or fall out

>>64130944 (OP)
>Buy Beretta 92
>need to replace safety with G conversion
>need to replace grips with VZ thins or equivalents
>need to replace magazines with 18 round mec-gars
>need to replace sights
>need to replace plastic guide rod
>need to replace all trigger components with LTT trigger job in a bag
Why do people accept this?

>>64130944 (OP)
>get stock gen 3 glonk
>its perfectly fine
>get stock m&p 2.0
>its perfectly fine
>people dump $1000 on them instead of getting a $1000 gun that runs that good from the box so they can tell other people they got all the bells and whistles that make it justasgood

>>64131038
Glock has had factory metal night sights. The plastic sights are preferable to non-illuminated metal ones because you're going to be throwing those stock sights away regardless and it's better they be made out of soft plastic so you don't scrape the finish removing them.

>>64131052
You can buy LTTs that come with all that already.

>>64131070
You can pay extra for tricked out glocks too.

>>64130944 (OP)
I got my first handgun, a Glock 17 Gen5.
Slowly I get better with the aim but to be honest, the sights are feeling like utter trash, being unable to aim properly after 7 yards.

Since the metal sights are the same size, are they really better than the stock plastic sights in that regard?
Any other suggestion for better sights?

>Buy police trade in Glock for 399.99$
>Hit the surplus lottery and get one with aftermarket night sights and extended slide release
>Be smart enough to spend money on ammo instead of dumping gimmicky aftermarket gizmos that could compromise reliability

>>64131038
that's a $30 upgrade not a $500 one, fuckhead.

>>64132039
>gen 4
>reliable
You're gonna have to upgrade it anyway

>>64132432
I have north of 20K rounds through it, and at times I have been pretty lazy about maintenance, yet no issues to report, thanks for the concern anon, but it's been pretty good

>>64132432
You don't have to upgrade shit, try not being retarded. The stock Glock works just fine.
You don't need a $300 trigger for your $300 gun.

>>64132455
That is just filthy.
Get some brake cleaner and a brass brush and give it the old hawk tuah.

>>64132457
>>64132455
It's not about upgrades as much as Gen 4 had a lot of legitimate QC issues and flaws. If you say it's fine, then sure, but most people had to do a lot of work on their Gen 4s

>>64132462
>old hawk tuah
Unironically kill yourself

>>64132469
Maybe some of the earlier ones, I do recall the brass to face debacle, but I'm pretty sure that was promptly resolved and it was more of a nuisance than a real reliability issue

>>64132485
Nah, you still see a ton of them because people pawned their glocks instead of sending them in.

>>64130944 (OP)
>stock image
Noguns opinion discarded

>>64132508
This.

Fuck summer /k/, fuck yuros

>>64130944 (OP)
Just buy a Kimber. Best there is!

>>64130958
>oem trigger sucks; new trigger assembly is at least $100 to $270 in
>oem sights suck; maybe $50-150 for new sights
>oem slide release is literally inoperable; $25-50 for one you can actuate with your thumb like a normal person
>oem springs suck; this is true for most factory hanguns though, however that's at least $25
>factory grip texture is aids; stippling services cost at least $100, or $20 for grip tape
>magazines are actually pretty good
>no manual safety = gay
I can get a beretta PX4 for the exact same price and out of the box it's already a more comfortable and better shooting gun than any glock for the same price or less. Also glock grip angle is terrible.

>>64132606
Agreed, plus the px4 is inherently safer.

I have both and much prefer the px4.

>>64132508
>>64132526
Gliggers on damage control

>>64132606
People that complain about glocks and then proceed to recommend a gun with two different trigger pulls, one of them being 9lb, that has no real world track record outside maybe some third world shithole, reek of noguns weebs

>>64131053
>>64130944 (OP)
Well that's the beauty of the glock. You don't have to upgrade anything. It's boringly functional out of the box and always will be.
So you can start with a regular Glock and get a feel for it and enjoy what you like about the pistol. And if you want something better, you don't have to buy another gun. If you make a change you don't like, you can just change back with again without having to buy another gun. It's also fun to modify things yourself.

For my money, I get the Tango Down slide stop and three dot metal night sights.

>>64130944 (OP)
It's a cheap plastic piece of shit for conscripts, what do you expect.
It got hyped to shit by dumb burgers who generally know nothing about guns.

>>64132858
Does any major military issue Glocks to conscripts? SOF yeah, but not aware of any conscript armies using Glock.

>>64132606
>Glock grip trigger and grip angle is teerrrible oy vey
>here have this dogshit da/sa that's bigger in every dimension and don't forget the pointless manual safety
If you hate glocks could you please name something...better?

>>64132926
>dogshit da/sa that's bigger in every dimension and don't forget the pointless manual safety
more homosexual cope than the OP

>>64130944 (OP)
No function issues. No magazine issues. Low maintenance. Always works. Out of the box.
>>upgrades 500 dollars
Uh, 13 dollar steel oem sights and move on

>>64130944 (OP)
Gen 5 doesn't need anything out of the box, except maybe sights, to be the best 9mm handgun on the market. The more an individual shoots the greater their appreciation for Glock becomes. If you want to talk about a way overrated pistol you should be posting the USP. That thing is the most mediocre handgun fucking ever

>>64132778
>beretta
>no real track record
>???
There's better hills to die on anon than defending a corporation.
Glock aren't bad, but why would I want one at this point?

>>64132606
>oem trigger sucks; new trigger assembly is at least $100 to $270 in
No, gen 3 and 4 were mediocre, gen 5 has a good trigger. The whole "make this striker fired guns trigger as light and short as possible" thing is a complete meme from people trying to buy skill.
>oem sights suck; maybe $50-150 for new sights
Somewhat true
>oem slide release is literally inoperable; $25-50 for one you can actuate with your thumb like a normal person
This is incorrect, you either have child sized hands or do not own the gun in question
>oem springs suck; this is true for most factory hanguns though, however that's at least $25
Completely made up, Glock springs are all gtg
>factory grip texture is aids; stippling services cost at least $100, or $20 for grip tape
False, gen 5 grip texture is great. Just enough to do the trick without being too abrasive for IWB. M&P 2.0 is the only gun on the market that debatable does a better job, downside is it's a bit rough for IWB for some people
>magazines are actually pretty good
>no manual safety = gay
Manual safety is gay. Exposed but flush fitting hammer or striker indicator are the best.

>>64132926
>muh muh greep anglee!
>buhbuhbuh the da trigger!
Fine, nigger; Walther PDP and Beretta APX. Both far better polymer frame strikers than a glock

>>64132977
The PX4 has never been adopted, issued or tested in any significant manner, a brand can spit out turds regardless of their previous offerings, see the P226 and the P320

>>64132980
>gliggers coping this hard
Justify your dumb purchase all you like, it's still shit and leagues behind other options on the market

>>64132993
What world are you living in where the PX4 is a turd?

>>64130944 (OP)
They are never good. Cheap plastic jamshit. These things are more likely to jam than a fucking Hi Point, Jimenez, or SCCY. If it's worse than the shittiest brands why does anyone bother paying premium price for it?

>>64130944 (OP)
Post your glock.

>>64133015
got anything else to say besides spamming your shill folder?

>>64132993
Neither has an Atlas but you'd be crazy to call a stock Glock a better gun than that.

>>64133021
Sure, your meme handgun that you only know because it appears in some weebshit is actually a hidden gem and it has never been picked up by a SF unit or been relevant in competition because you are the only smart person in the world

>>64133015
>implying you even shoot, nogunz brown turdie

>>64132980
>Glock
>good trigger
Cheap ass Caniks have better triggers. Why do you guys have to pretend Glock is good at anything but requiring almost zero maintenance? That's why it's picked, because you can beat it up.

>>64132980
>The whole "make this striker fired guns trigger as light and short as possible" thing is a complete meme from people trying to buy skill.
from the inventors of "double action is shit and heavy and hard to use".

>>64133048
>meme
>weebshit
You clearly have no clue what you're talking about, and being noguns only makes you bitter

>>64133048
Who cares if it's been picked by a SF unit or not? Literally all of their stuff is milspec anyway, which is literally lowest bidder for the item.

>>64132606
Skill Issue: the post

>>64133069
Only noguns think it has to be used by SF fags to be considered good, which is why he's raging about it

>>64133075
Noguns: the give away

>>64133077
Not to mention they tend to pick stuff they're familiar with. Another reason Glocks are often picked because that's one of like two handguns a lot of them have ever shot, due to it's previous affordability and access.

>>64133064
Please, enlighten me on the profound relevance of the PX4 in the handgun world and the multiple clones it has sprout out in the world

>>64133085
Nope.

>>64131815
>are they really better than the stock plastic sights in that regard?
Yes, anything is better than the stock plastic sights
>Any other suggestion for better sights?
I have a set of all black Dawson competition sights on my glawk that I really like.

>>64133104
>MP5
Based classics respecter

>>64132997
9mm handguns owned that were worse than a gen 5 G19
>Gen 4 g19
>M&P 1.0
>M&P 2.0
>Cz 75
>Sp-01
>USP
>P320
>Grand power
>Walther PPQ
>Beretta 92
>The steyr one with the trapezoidal sights
>Sig p229
>Etc
It isn't cope at this point anon, it really just is the best overall IMO. I can understand preferring something else but people who poopoo Glock are almost universally brandfags and gun hipsters. The natural order of things is to do that for a while when you're newer to shooting, then eventually grow out of it and realize how great Glock really is.
>>64133059
Tbh kinda but not really, something like DAK is legitimately aids but there's nothing wrong with DA/SA as long as the two different trigger pulls don't mess you up

>>64133110
Love me retro, simple as

>>64133127
>It isn't cope at this point anon, it really just is the best overall IMO.
clown

>>64133127
I'm not sure how it's the best overall when it has mediocre sights, bad grip texture, lower capacity for its size, a tendency to slide-bite and create uncomfortable/painful knuckles, more prone to grip induced failures than others in its class, hard to clean mags, a trigger that's longer and mushier than it actually has to be to work, and about 300 bucks more expensive than it should be. The main draw is that you don't have to take good care of it.

>>64133150
>a tendency to slide-bite and create uncomfortable/painful knuckles, more prone to grip induced failures than others in its class,
What

>>64133156
Slide-bite is very common on stock Glocks, as is the titular Glock Knuckle. That's why basically all aftermarket frames or Gen 3 alternatives enhance the shit out of the beaver tail and undercut the fuck out if it. The Glock's weight distribution also means you really need to be gripping it properly or you'll get feed failures. It's easy to say you'll always do that, but there's a mountain of evidence that says it's not always that simple.

>>64133165
How the fuck do people get slide bite? You not aware of where your hand is relative to the movement of the slide?

>>64133169
Yeah, it's not all that hard in a stressful situation (or if you're new) to ride a Glock too high and have it just rip into you. The 1911 also got its beavertail buffed for similar reasons (though it was more the hammer than the slide).

>>64132606
>new trigger assembly is at least $100 to $270 in
Polish it if you're cheap.
>oem slide release is literally inoperable
Do you have child hands?
>oem springs suck; this is true for most factory hanguns though
Put 500 rounds though it and you won't even notice.
>factory grip texture is aids; stippling services cost at least $100, or $20 for grip tape
Two rubber bands I made from an old bike tire do the trick. Never understood why people think you need to take a soldering iron to their pistol. Granted I have a 19 Gen 5 which did away with the stupid finger groves so it doesn't feel like you're holding a potato.
>beretta PX4
>the exact same price as a glock
You better not be pretending to be retarded.

>>64133127
This is either straight up lies or bait. Any gen of hlock 19 is just that; a glock 19. It's a gun, just like every AR is just a gun. I agree that Glocks are popular for a reason and I can't hate their track record and history, but I'm not about to sit here and lie to myself and say it's better than every popular 9mm on the market because it just is and if you disagree you're a newfag, which is patently bullshit yoo. I've shot almost every gun you listed and I agree with some of it, but you're absolutely high out of you fucking gourd if you honestly believe all of what you just said.

>>64133165
I've been shooting Glocks for a decade and have no idea what you are babbling about

>>64133156
you're watching someone out themselves as either being noguns or having crippling skill issues

>>64133169
Spoiler: they're fat as fuck

>>64133194
If you say so, chief. I guess people are just putting extended beaver tails on for the cool look.

>>64133165
>Slide-bite is very common on stock Glocks
Since when??
>s is the titular Glock Knuckle
This sounds made up

>>64133220
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=What+is+Glock+Knuckle%3F

>>64133156
Anon's bad, more at 11.

>>64130944 (OP)
9mm and .45 glock is fine. Nothing needs changed. If you change anything, you defeat the point of a glock. It is a standardized, maximally generic pistol that is available everywhere on earth.

.40 and 10mm glock is NOT fine because they use less supported chambers to increase feed reliability and hot ammo can blow out the case.

Follow this simple rule and glock happily

>>64133165
It's common with retarded shooters. Beavertails are fucking cancer for carry guns. "Yes I want to be stabbed in the stomach because its too hot to wear a jacket and carry strong side" -nobody.
>a mountain of evidence
Americans purposefully hire low IQ cops. This is not a conspiracy theory. Police departments have had to defend this explicit practice in court. Every "glock problem" only exists in the hands of american police who spend more time learning how to be paranoid when co-training with mossad than they do qualifying with their pistols.

>>64133226
Is this just something I'm not aware of because I'm not a hamplanet

>>64133231
I don't think it's a crime to admit that one tool or another may have shortcomings in some areas, because no tool is perfect, but I understand you may feel particularly loyal to this brand. That's okay. It's like sports, it doesn't have to make sense.

>>64133236
I know the term dates back to at least the late 90s when I got into shooting. I don't know how old you are, though.

>>64133220
It's real, but if you look at pics of the people complaining about it you'll see a startling amount of hands with no wrists and fingers that resemble sausages. Ditto for anyone bitching about slidebite. I'm sure there's no correlation though.

>>64133237
>hand tool to borderlinie retards
>they do borderline retard thing with tool
>its the tool that is wrong
>not the borderline retards
The only shortcoming is the fact the officers were dropped off by a short bus. It doesn't help most departments have abhorrent training standards and most cops will go to the range maybe once or twice a year, on top of not knowing how to fight.

>>64133150
>bad grip texture, lower capacity for its size
Literally making things up at this point lmao
>Slide bite
Fat hands problem
>Glock knuckle
Known issue with any firearm using a trigger dingus, it's called Glock knuckle because Glock popularized that style of trigger safety. Shooter dependent problem but a reasonable thing to have beef over for that small minority of shooters.

SAO style striker guns are a mistake. Hair triggers without safeties are a mistake. There is nothing that shoots as well as the G19 gen 5 without being notably less reliable, larger, heavier, or being meme tier in terms of availability and support. It is functionally one of the best 9mm handguns in its size range, well in to the point of vastly diminishing returns while being extremely ubiquitous. That is why it's the best.
>>64133191
>Any gen of hlock 19 is just that; a glock 19
If you actually believe this then frankly you should do more listening and less talking. There were meaningful design changes with gen 3, 4 and 5 for the G19. Everything I listed is truthful btw in terms of handguns owned, I went through a trading phase for most of my 20's.

>>64133275
I don't know about it being the only shortcoming. For example, a hammer with a rubber grip is easier to use than one that's just a shaft of wood. I'd say they'd probably equally good at driving force, assuming the other specs are the same, but more people would be able to use the one with a rubber grip with a higher level of proficiency. Pretty sure there's a field of study around improving tools..

>>64133284
>Known issue with any firearm using a trigger dingus
No, that's trigger bite. Glock Knuckle is a painful welt or blister that develops on the middle finger as it rubs against the trigger guard. You don't actually see it as much for casual shooters, it's really more for people putting the time on the range since they're gripping higher and tighter.

Apparently a lot of the glock fanboys don't know these common glock terms.

>>64133298
Shoot mine every weekend for the last 11 or so years. Never been an issue. You might just be fat, I dunno.

>>64133324
You see it on skinny guys too. Glock Knuckle has nothing to do with how fat your fingers are, since it's the bone (literally the knuckle) against the guard that causes the irritation. Soft sausage fingers wouldn't have as big of a problem, really.

>>64133298
Interesting, I shoot my Gen 3 very often and also use it for matches and this has never been an issue. Perhaps I shoot too much and I haven't hit the sweet spot for this weird affliction to strike.

>>64133298
Id literally forgotten about that one and crossed a wire, thats another fatty problem though, that or soft hands to the point of being ridiculous.

>>64133289
>the point
>your head
If you hand a borderline retard a hammer he will not use it well regardless of whether it has a rubber grip or not. The remedy to the borderline non-issues is giving people quality training and incentivize them to do more on their own to fill in training gaps. Post the "mountain of evidence."

>>64133289
>For example, a hammer with a rubber grip is easier to use than one that's just a shaft of wood
You've never had to use a hammer for any extended period of time, have you?

>>64133390
the best part is he's trying to lecture people on hand friction issues lmfao

As a retard, I spent thousands on any gun that wasnt a soulless Glock and could always find something wrong with it. Went from milsurp poorfag to 1911 purist to gen 2 sw auto hipster and eventually got tired of being in love with a gun just to have it fuck up in some spectacular way requiring repairs or retarded propriety parts and mags. I rage bought picrel and can't get it to jam even limp wristing or trying to make it fuck up. It's just fine if you train with it, parts/mags are everywhere and I finally like Glock. Yes it's retarded to sink tons of money into 'upgrades' but people rice out their Honda civics so I think it's a brown skin thing, people can spend their money however they want idgaf.

Buy what does what you want and shoot as much as you can. I finally stopped giving a shit about image because I have never given a fuck about other people's guns except the faggot with the five seven shooting it gangster style while his gf scowled on her phone the whole time. If you derive self worth from showing off how cool and smart you are to strangers at the gun range you're an faggot. Be into guns for yourself and fuck other people's opinions

>>64133363
Cool, I guess? I don't know why you're trying to flex to a guy on /k/ about it, though.
>>64133382
Oh lord, I can see the pointless bickering coming. I'll say this: go watch bodycams and count the number of times Glocks have FtFs. Don't like it? Don't agree? Ok. You're right, you win, you special little boy.
>>64133390
Actually, I do installations of major electrical and gas appliances, so I use a wide variety of tools on a daily basis. It's massively easier and less fatiguing

>>64133298
Easily over 10k rounds though several glocks and have never had a problem. Sure, you'll get some blisters at first if you have soft hands and start shooting a lot, but then you develop calluses. Same thing happens if you suddenly start splitting wood or digging a lot of holes or any other manual work if you're soft-handed.

>>64133417
Sure, dude. I'm glad it's not a problem for you. Some people do have a problem with it, which was the point of mentioning it.

>>64133407
>make idiotic statements
>try to defend them
>can't
>I can see the pointless bickering coming
You did this to yourself.
>I'll say this: go watch bodycams and count the number of times Glocks have FtFs.
Which ones? You said there is a mountain of evidence. I just want to see it. Throwing your hands up and being a passive aggressive faggot about it is telling me you either don't have a mountain of evidence or you're greatly exaggerating.

>>64133407
I work on steam locomotives for a living, rubber grips on hammers are AIDS because they absorb sweat and oils to become more slippery than just a wooden shaft. You can mitigate this by wearing gloves but at that point why bother with a rubber grip anyways.

And you're wrong about Glock Knuckle being a thing if you shoot a lot. It isn't.

That's why you buy the version that is cheaper and already has all the upgrade you want.

>>64133432
Some people have a problem with everything, you argue like a woman. Post guns you own.

>>64133438
This is a disingenuous request because I've had this conversation before. I'm not going to spend more of my time posting videos for you to systematically make excuses. We can just skip to the end where you stick your head in the sand and declare victory. Sound good? Great job, you win.

>>64133441
The ruger p80

>>64133445
why do you post like a redditor dude? jfc.

>>64133432
I don't believe you. To the extent the problem exists at all, it's just because you need to shoot more and toughen your hands up.

>>64133407
>appliance installer
>thinks he uses a hammer enough to know about friction injuries
My point stands. You just don't know what you're talking about.

>>64133450
I've been on 4chan since 2006. This is still new and exciting to you, but it's been done before.
>>64133440
Never had a problem with rubber "absorbing" sweat and oils. If you mean they get slick, sure, but for me, I constantly need to clean stuff off my hands so rubber is only a boon to me.

>>64133445
>its a disingenuous request because I've had this conversation before
This tells me you do not have any evidence of your claims and are relying on conjecture.
>I'm not going to spend more of my time posting videos for you to systematically make excuses.
So you're just going to make up excuses for your inability to substantiate your claims? It's a mountain of evidence. Just show me the mountain.
>We can just skip to the end where you stick your head in the sand and declare victory. Sound good? Great job, you win.
Can you be any more of a faggot?

>>64133456
>I don't believe you.
Hang on, I have a source
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=What+is+Glock+Knuckle%3F

>>64133458
Probably because you're just an appliance installer and don't sweat much and/or never have to use tools for long in a given session. Like with guns, stay in your lane and stick with what you know

>>64133466
oh wow you really are a pledditor lmfao

>>64133468
Sure, guy, I bet your boyfriend is so proud.

>>64133471
>thinks lmgtfy is reddit
underage

>>64133407
>Actually, I do installations of major electrical and gas appliances
Soooo you never have to use a hammer for extended periods of time and your toolset consists entirely of an adjustable wrench and a basic screwdriver set?

>>64133491
I wish. While I will say a hammer specifically is not my main tool, I think my main one is actually the pipe wrench. A lot of what we do is commercial installs, so we gotta do the necessary plumbing and electrical. Maybe the saws after that. I realize you're actually looking for some reason to discredit the nature of my work, but I figured I'd share.

>buys Glock (first gun)
>spend $500 on aftermarket upgrades to "make it good"
>stay mad about ergos
>shoot for a while
>remove all aftermarket upgrades
>realize you were just bad
>love the ergos
>appreciate good guns
~~~OR~~~
>buys Glock (first gun)
>spend $500 on aftermarket upgrades to "make it good
>stay mad about ergos
>don't shoot or get better
>buy sigslop or canik
>feels nicer in the hand
>continue to not shoot
>make this thread on /k/
there are two paths that emerge from Glock ownership and you can always tell which one somebody took based on how they speak about glocks

>>64133440
That is fucking rad as hell how do you even get into a trade like that?

>>64133220
Nta but I get a hot spot on my middle finger after shooting a lot. I don't think it's a big deal and I get it on other pistols too. He must have really soft sissy hands if he thinks it's a valid criticism. The trigger guard undercut on aftermarket or modified frames is to get a higher grip on the gun.

>>64133535
You don't have to think it's just me. There's a whole internet out there that even labeled it. I didn't come up with the name. But hey, if all you guys can do is argue about your manhands instead of the other problems, I'll take that as a win in my book.

>>64133535
I kind of get it on my BHP weirdly enough, but not once with my Glock, or 1911, or Luger, or CZ-75 etc. etc.

Sounds like this is entirely subjective from person to person and hardly warrants being relegated to just one pistol brand that isn't any different in that regard from others, which should be obvious.

>>64133543
Post hand and guns.

>>64133562
Hang on, let me google an aryan with a gen 1 glock first.

>>64132606
>>64133075
>stippling service
>not diy with the soldering iron you already own for fixing things
anon’s ngmi

>>64133556
Yeah. It probably just has to do with where your knuckle lines up with what part on the gun. Different for every person and a minor issue on every properly designed pistol. They're really grasping at straws if that's their main critiscism.

>>64133591
Good thing it was part of a list.

>>64133604
>Please read my heckin listerino!

>>64133739
man, you sound pretty reddit.

>>64132606
Well...Glocks are not competition pistols...they are service pistols, they are meant for army and police units. Every single thing you mention is for a reason
>heavy trigger pull
Police requirement
>small and uncomfortable mag and slide release
Army requirement

If you want a competition pistol buy a cz shadow 2 and stop crying about muh Glocks.

Man, this thread. Glock really is a cult. Something good about a Glock? Is the best thing to do that good thing ever. Something bad about a Glock? No, it's not bad and you're an awful faggot for wanting it to be good--which is is, but you're bad.

>>64133781
>name a bunch of things that aren’t even legitimate issues with a Glock
>people call you out
>sperg about it
Glocks aren’t even that great, but they’re just all around okay guns

>>64133796
Your samefag detector needs work

If glocks are so bad then why all new handguns are glock clones? The only barelly not resembling a glock is the sig 320, and look how that's going.

>>64133802
post guns and hand.

>>64133817
It turns out f
Plastic striker pistols are actually fucking great. Who knew? Oh yeah 80% of the world.

>>64133781
>people make up a list of hyperbolic problems with a very popular and widely used firearm
>people get called out on it
its just a bait thread dog, gun hipsters make threads like this all the time

>>64133802
With who? That was my first post in this stupid thread

Just because the majority of people disagree with your bad opinion, it doesn’t mean they’re samefags

>>64133874
That was my first post, fag. Naturally I'm gonna think your ass is talking about someone else if you're talking about naming a bunch of stuff

>>64133888
The fuck are you even talking about?

>>64133023
works on my machine

>>64130944 (OP)
No. Learn your irons first. Then put on whatever you want. Irons irons irons.

>>64130944 (OP)
just replace the shitty plastic sights with something decent, put the backstrap that fits your hand on and apply the grip tape of your choice. pretty much it unless you want an optic and light

>>64130958
trigger, sights, grip
a p80 is an upgrade

>>64132039
>police trade in Glock
>not .40
Nice.

>>64132926
Walther PDP, Canik TP9, Arex Delta, IWI Masada

A fucking P80 with Glock gen3 specs is better than a Glock.

>>64130944 (OP)
Indeed, if you're shooting a Glock with the factory barrel, factory trigger, factory sights, factory mag, factory frame, factory slide, factory grip,, factory firing pin, factory recoil springs, factory magwell, factory switch, or factory muzzle device wouldn't understand how good a Glock can be.

>>64132778
There's a reason why it's called Gock Leg and not DA/SA Leg jsyk

>>64132926
M&P 2.0. Don't make me cite the Mud/ice tests

>>64130944 (OP)
Reminder Glocksuckers are paypigs

>>64133015
Hmmm, your graphs seem out of date, here's the latest

>>64131052
This nigga never heard of the 92X

>>64131076
Not from the factory, Gaston is too cheap

>>64132855
>number of people who think McDonald's makes the best food

>>64132470
unironically clean your guns you filthy faggot

>>64132778
>a gun with two different trigger pulls
If you were filtered by DA/SA then you probably don't have anything of value to add to this discussion.

>>64133438
They occur in a few PoliceActivity videos, just start browsing. Wish people made a Supercut of every glock jam on video but here's some
https://youtu.be/aXpYqjKd8cE

>>64134846
He released the magazine under duress, not a malfunction. Fucking retard

>>64133817
Lots of goyim need strikerslop.
Popular =/= good

>>64134853
I don't see it happening to any other gun, curious!

>>64134867
Most footage is from police bodycams, and most have glocks.

>>64134867
post your hand and gun.

>>64132878
Are you the same retard from the optic plate thread?

>>64133471
>Dunning-Nunigger Syndrome

>>64131052
>need
None of this is necessary. Unless you're a woman with small hands

is designing a gun that's extremely sensitive to limpwristing a design flaw?

>>64130944 (OP)
There are really no necessary upgrades to a gen 5 Glock unless you consider a red dot an added necessary upgrade, but if you do then most pistols fall short. At the same time you could also buy a Glock COA(now impossible to find lol) that is perfectly fine. I have replaced the trigger with an apex on my G47 and while I like its feel on my finger, it's totally unnecessary. The closest thing I would maybe say that is worthwhile is replacing the striker spring with a 5 dollar 4.5 pound Wolfe striker spring which makes the trigger feel slightly better, but even that is completely unnecessary. Just learn 2 shoot. All the other stuff is a meme

>>64132858
Yuros should have the skin flayed off their faces for trying to talk guns to burgerchads. Rangeban can't come soon enough

>>64133023
I'm not a bitch so I don't have any problems with mine. Even my 48 works fine with the shield arms mags and then are supposed to suck apparently

>>64134931
The should choose a gun that jams less then

>>64134933
Ladies first.

>>64132855
huh, not seeing Delta force on there

>>64135037
I'm a manlet with small hands and I don't need any of that.

>>64132606
>oem trigger sucks
if you're a diva
>oem sights suck
mine haven't fallen out, there's nothing wrong with the ball in bucket, and if you manage to somehow break them you are a gorilla retard.
>oem slide release is literally inoperable
I can operate it just fine with my little twink hands, I think you might just be retarded
>oem springs suck
??? they last plenty long and aren't stiff if that's what you mean. my beretta 84 recoil spring is stiff as fuck and the hammer spring feels heavy as fuck.
>factory grip texture is aids
it's grippy enough and isn't sandpaper on your skin when you're carrying it
>no manual safety
the holster covers the trigger, if you manage to shoot yourself then you deserve it

Only Glockfags take their gun sucking as a badge of honor. Actual masochists

>>64135423
Coping this hard over a mediocre gun is a weird hill to die on anon. If you'd shot other (better) pistols you'd know the grass is greener on the other side

>>64135726
>>64135597
>>64135141
yawn

>>64130944 (OP)
Huh? My stock 19 Gen 5 shoots great.

>>64134846
>webm
Fat thumb on the mag release. This can happen with any contemporary handgun.
>video
Slow the video down to and watch from :30 to at least :34. Woman moment where her hands flounder about while firing and she appears to have shot him in the dick after an admittedly good remedial action. This still boils down. Thank you for posting actual footage, sincerely. I will comb the videos out of spite.

>>64135852
That's not what my non biased eyes see.

>>64133023
>wojak meme image
not reading

Glock trying to gaslight people again. I can't wait for them to be the whipping boy of the gun community once more.

>>64131062
The illuminated sights are 3-dots and 3-dots don't agree with my eyes at all
I sold mine (came with my used gun so whatever) and put a steel front and Glock's own adjustable rear on

>>64132606
>oem slide release is literally inoperable; $25-50 for one you can actuate with your thumb like a normal person
Agree when it comes to the stock model but there's an OEM extended model too

>>64135071
not if it's done by glock, then it's actually a benefit

>>64136161
This. The harder you have to work in order to get basic function out of your gun, the better. Why should your gun actually help you use it better?

>>64134555
>A fucking P80 with Glock gen3 specs is better than a Glock.
t.noshoot

>>64136367
shoot plenty. Would rather have a G3

>>64130944 (OP)
It works, is striker fired, and it's not that expensive. That alone puts it towards the top. Sure, others may be more accurate, feel better, have better triggers, etc, but when shitfuckistan needs to replaces 15,000 rusty P38s, they don't want to spend $50 more per piece on something that's slightly better. Police and SOF typically want to just draw and shoot asap without a double action tigger pull or having to take off a safety, and Glocks are great for that. If you're not blasting liqa sto thieves or running kill rooms 20 times a day for a conflict that's already over, it literally doesn't matter as long as whatever you use is within ballpark and you know how to use it.

Gaston won, the Glock 19 gen 3 is now the most cloned handgun in the world, you can find a Glock in any country, if Glock doesn't sell them guns, they will make their own, it has become "the" handgun, wherever there is a conflict there is a Glock, nobody makes guns like Gaston

>>64136662
Fuck the walter guy for making Gaston sell Glocks for a premium. Gaston was really out here saying $250 was good enough.

>>64136662
That's some pasta shit right there

>>64133517
Realest post in this dogshit thread tbqh

>>64137029
Fake. The more I shoot, the more I realize Glock is all hype with the worst ergonomics. Y'all are weird and cultish about a cheap plastic gun

>>64137059
You don't shoot

>>64137133
I do shoot, and I've been shooting for decades. You're just wrong. There is no magic moment where the slick grip and we cardboard trigger come together to make skill or a great experience. It's still the same gun I passed on 20 years ago

>>64137146
Sure you do kiddo

>>64137153
Okay, brother, enlightening talk. You can go back to justifying your Tupperware again.

>>64137146
>I've been shooting for 20 years
>My experience differs from that of all other respectable shooters because I'm more smarterest

>>64137172
First, it's not all other respectable shooters plenty of people do not favor the platform. Second, if you're letting other people decide for you, you're a loser.

rather shocking to see so many people proudly admitting to getting filtered by the most basicbitch gun on the market

>>64137165
People who don't shoot don't deserve respectful engagement here, so you're not getting it from me

>>64137181
>Plenty of weebs think like me, come circlejerk the Beretta PX4, famously adopted by th Venezuelan and Ghana police forces
>Noooo, don't listen to proficient shooters and professionals with experience employing handguns at the highest level, you should listen to basement dwellers

>>64137195
Very cool. You sure are the shootiest shooter to ever shoot because you like this one specific pistol.

>>64137204
Nice fanfiction. You could probably tone down the gay elements though.

>>64137189
This, at this point, not being able to shoot a Glock is like saying that you can't shoot AKs or ARs and being proud of it, it's the most probably the most common handgun in the world

>>64137216
There is a large difference between not being able to and not enjoying the experience. I think most people can shoot them, but whether you like to do it or not is personal preference.

>>64137210
Can't mock a faggot without faggotry

>>64137146
Post hand and gun.

>>64137226
I've never shoot a gun and didn't enjoy it, that sounds pretty homosexual

>>64137231
Post cock and balls. I need to know if I'm dealing with a tranny.
>>64137227
I know, but the hero worship is s little gay. Maybe cut out the handjob next time

>>64137234
Sure, buddy. Lemme just get you a Bryco

>>64137247
>Trying to call someone gay and demanding dick pics in the same post
Boy, aren't you a little fruit

>>64136662
>nobody makes guns like Gaston
Lel

>>64137254
You'd know, baby

>>64137189
People posting Ls and not realizing they're Ls is a time-honored 4chan tradition .
>>64137195
Based.

>Glockfags get rope-a-doped again in the same thread.
Sensitive

>>64137059
bot ass response

>>64133039
New soijak dropped

>>64137247
Embarrassing performance

>>64132778
My PX4 has a 4.5-5 pound Da pull and a 2 pound SA pull. The average Langdon tactical PX4 is going to have a 6 pound DA and 3 pound SA

Yeah glocks are trash
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7i_6CZm8KUo&pp

>>64137465
Your boyfriend is so pretty

>>64131052
>buy beretta 92
>enjoy it completely stock
Sounds like it was much easier for me than 4 you

>>64137465
Ben says the PX4 shoots very well but the ergos are dogshit

>>64137475
The only bad thing is that super slick grip. Wtf were they thinking

>>64137482
I actually don’t mind it but can see how people do, I think I have above average grip strength.

Glocks had shitty texture for the longest time and people gave it a pass since they used grip tape or the entire stippling industry that was created to fix Glocks.

>>64137492
People will do a lot of things before criticizing Glock, as evidenced by this thread, but I don't think that's a good reason for the px4 to be so smooth

>>64137504
In the early 2000s when the PX4 is from, pretty sure Glocks had the same issue and the same fixes, grip tape, wrap around grips, and stippling

I find it nice since the side of the grip doesn’t tear apart my soft white underbelly when carrying appendix

>>64133526
Honestly you know people, and it's a pretty unforgiving trade since if you screw up bad word quickly travels and only the most desperate or sketchy outfits will even look at you

>>64137520
Pretty sure the Glock smoothness was getting dunked on since Gen 1.

>>64132606
Just lmao

>>64133237
>Glock isn't a race gun so it's bad
Glocks are generic self defense pistols, not range toys.

The trigger is not supposed to be nice, light, and crisp because it is the only thing keeping the thing from going off.
The OEM sights do suck but they were also designed to be easy to understand for adrenaline-pumped retards operating on minimal experience
OEM slide release is a skill issue. You're meant to pull the slide back instead. Remember, gun designed for idiots. European idiots, of course, hence the grip angle is euro standard despite how much it angers the american generations that grew up on revolvers and 1911s (it hasn't been a problem for people born in the 90s or later)
The springs work fine.
The grip texture is fine unless you are shooting in competitions or "operating". Which isn't really what these are meant for.
No manual safety is a design cue taken from DA revolvers

The glock is a semiatuomatic el cheapo double action only self defense pistol. Whining about it is like complaining.

The only real complaint about glocks is they should be cheaper.

Glocks do not have slide releases. That's a slide catch. You do not send the slide forward with that, it's for locking it back. You grasp the slide with your left hand and pull it back and release it.

Jesus christ

>>64138044
Holy cope. You're literally saying it's good that those features suck

>>64138051
If we had no shit then what would the flies eat?

>>64138044
I decide what's a real complaint or not, and I say it's an ugly, soulless handgun for queer babies.

>>64138064
Tauruses

>>64138070
That is literally what glock was going for.

Not a competition gun. Not a range toy. Not a hobby gun. A soulless european pistol with a two part manual of arms. It's not even meant to be disassembled by laymen. Most glock owners make the mistake of cleaning their gun with more than a pull through barrel snake. Don't. They don't need it.

It's about $100 ($400 if getting optic cut) of upgrades and $1000 of accessories. Same goes with $1k guns to, just that you don't need to pay the $100 for upgrades

>>64138080
Sure, but all of those things still suck. Even if something sucks on purpose, it still sucks

>>64138088
It sucks if you bought a glock to shoot for fun or sport, yes.

But if you are a cop/thug with an IQ of 95, it is the perfect gun.

>>64138090
Not if they keep jamming them lol

>>64138094
>ESL
Nice try rashi

>>64138090
No, it still sucks for them too. The things that are bad on Glock are bad for everyone. Literally every user would be better off if they were improved. Your logic is weird, like saying people can't handle things that work

>>64138100
>ESL accusation for a normal post
I accept your concession

>>64138101
You have to be very new to guns if you have trouble understanding that what makes a defensive/duty gun good is different from what makes a sport/fun gun good

>>64138112
The complaints about Glock are agnostic to that distinction. A M9 is s duty pistol and also had none of those issues

>>64138110
Kek, can't even recognize proper English anymore, this is what we get for not banning shithole countries from this hellhole

>>64133150
>bad grip texture
I will give you this, luv me glonk but fuck they're slippery if you have sweaty hands. As someone who practically sweats for a living I kind of hate it, but then again you can use good gloves

>>64138125
Oh, sorry. I didn't recognize we were requiring proper punctuation. Where's your comma and period on the previous post, then? Perhaps you're trying to distract from being wrong by being a stickler.

>>64138112
PDP is a duty gun that eats Glock's lunch on every point of comparison

>>64138125
>Proper english
>That sentence

>>64138123
The M9 is certainly a good duty pistol, but it falls behind a Glock 19 in many aspects, that's why SF got smart during the GWOT and got Glock 19s with some procurement trickery. The M9 is much heavier and larger, so switching to activities that require concealing a handgun require either a dedicated concealment gun or being very uncomfortable; the M9 has a safety, and even though you could not use it, there is a chance that it could be accidentally engage, and to make things worse, it's in a very awkward position. Also, the M9 is more maintenance heavy than a Glock and chokes up in sandy environments.

So yes, the M9 is easier to shoot since it's heavier and has a better SA trigger, but is not as versatile as Glock 19 for duty/defense use

>>64132606
>trigger sucks
Legitimate complaint, - $100
>oem sights suck
Skill issue
>oem slide release
Legitimate complaint, - $75
>grip texture
Skill issue
>no manual saftey
Skill issue. This is a glock, not a P320 so it is safe

>>64138144
I want a PDP too but I'm not giving up my glonk either

>>64132926
VP9 and PDP

>>64138156
Real talk, modern SF use Glock because they're Glock kids. Old SF used 1911s until they quit. The rest of your post is not relevant because options like Watlhers and now the M&P.

>>64138156
Glock also chokes in sand, desu. It doesn't like mud either

>>64136662
Reminder that the RXM is the only good upgraded gen 3 clone

>>64138177
Throwing a gun in the sand and stomping on it for YouTube views is different than having a gun in a holster in a sandy environment, and in that regard, guns like the 1911 and the M9 perform worse than a Glock

>>64138186
Glock is just as bad in the sand, I dunno where you're sourcing this.

>>64137189
boy this got more relevant as the thread went on lmao

>>64133069
Presumably because they actually use guns for a living?

>>64138193
20+ years of use in sandy hellscapes, you?

>>64138199
Competition shooters actually use guns more than SF, not even kidding

>>64133440
>>64133468
Oh damn I know where that is. Say hi to Mark for me. (Unless you're him, in which case sup man? I like your videos.)

>250+ post thread
>like two posters even confirm they have the experience to talk about this
Oh yeah this is the /k/ I know and love

>>64138206
I've had zero issues with my 1911 owb in sandy climes. Get bent

>>64138207
Yeah they're shooting at targets though, whereas SF are actually using them in real situations(as well as training)

>>64138206
Oh boy, is it another/k/fag gonna pose with his stepdad's stuff episode?

>>64138217
Sure, whatever makes you feel good about using the memegun

>>64138144
>>64138163
>>64138166
I'm going to chime in, in case there's someone looking to get a PDP, my experience was good awful, it was fine for close to 5K rounds, and then the trigger started to deteriorate, it's the first gun were I've experienced a trigger getting worse with use, I tried contacting Walther and reached out to my local gunsmith and all I got is that it's a common issue since the P99 where the striker block rubs the trigger bar and as the finish wears off it gets bumpy. Dumped the thing since the trigger was the thing that I actually likes about the gun

>>64138228
If that is the case then get a VP9. Used ones are plentiful

>>64138234
Isn't the VP9 just a different flavour P99?

>>64138228
Bullshit, I've had my p99 forever now and experienced nothing. You got fucking clowned

>>64138237
No, it is a different flavor p30

>>64138211
I've resigned myself to the fact this place is mostly foreigners and bots now.
>>64138210
Lmao, not Mark H. and I don't really interact with him that much but he's an okay guy.

>buy pdp, add optic, add weaponlight: current duty pistol
>buy glock, it performs worse than the PDP so lets go over the things needed just to make it exactly like the PDP
1. new sights to match the quality of the PDP
2. new barrel with proper rifling instead of memelygonal that chokes on hardcast lead to match the PDP
3. new slide to deal with insufficient slide serrations and retarded optics mounting to match the PDP
4. new grip texture because glock's is insufficient to match the PDP
5. new trigger (obviously lmao) to somewhat match the PDP
6. new magazine release because glock's is both difficult to get to and also unreliable compared to the PDP
7. new magwell because glock's design doesn't help with reloading like the PDP does from the factory
8. new magazine with increased capacity to match the PDP
9. recoil mitigation such as a compensator just to match the PDP

in the end you can buy a PDP, or you can buy a glock for 100 dollars less and put in 1000 extra dollars just to have a PDP

>>64138240
I'm glad yours work, but it's pretty common, once I started looking I found tons of people with the same issue

>64138226
>This is what /k/ actually believes

>>64138248
It's also a 10 minute fix if you experience it. Why would you dump it?

>>64138211
a bunch of retards spending their weekend bickering about things they've never used is what makes /k/ /k/

Mandatory:
>3.5lb ghost disconnector
>metal night sights
>extended release
Optional:
>Threaded barrel if suppressing
>Red dot/slide work for dot

Anything else is pointless.

>>64138272
All I got is the GHOST connector and a quick polish job to the FCG engagement surfaces. Can clear a plate rack at 25m in just over 3 seconds. So many people in this thread are airing their skill issues out for all to see lol.

>>64138264
Because it will inevitably develop overtime even if I fix it, and I got tired of having to watch parts wear and keep track of anything that's not springs, I got burnt out after starting my gun adventures with 1911s

>>64138272
Sights are completely pointless if your getting a dot

>>64138288
That's literally every gun, nigga

>posters in here unironically saying you can't be competitive with Glocks
Wew, bunch of faggots in here who have never seen a practiscore page

>>64138302
If you get the 34 you can. One of the most successful competiton guns ever

>>64138293
None of my HKs require me to stay on top of parts wear to make sure the next range trip isn't going to be a miserable experience where the trigger, which was the main seller point of the gun mind you, decides to larp as an FAL military trigger

>>64138293
>>64138311
I used to have a car but realized that eventually the treads on my wheels will wear down and i'll have to worry about shit like new tires and balancing and alignment.
Fuck that, I drove it into a ditch and left it to rot.

>>64138316
If the power steering on that particular car keep giving up every so miles, I would find it pretty reasonable

>>64138326
if all it took was to open your hood and top off the power steering fluid every seven or so years then no it would not be reasonable.

>>64138326
That's literally every car

>>64138356
5k rounds is an abnormally low point to start having that problem, it's like saying that it doesn't matter whether it is every 5 years or twice a year since you would have to do it anyway

>>64130944 (OP)
All my Gen5s are stock minus the sights.

>>64138554
If it was an expensive or tedious repair, but it's not. 5k is an okay frequency for what's basically a cleaning

>>64138653
No, it's not a cleaning, it's refinishing a trigger bar and striker block

>>64138723
It takes a couple minutes bro

>>64135142
JSOC is clearly listed on there, shitskin

>>64138740
this is a bigger cope than anything a glocktard has posted in here lol

>>64138863
Bro, i don't know how difficult you think dunking the part is

Heard he officially divorced his wife of 14 years today. All because of a weapons charge he got some time ago.

>>64131038
I've concealed carry a G26 daily for 4 years. My stock sights haven't broken.

>my personality is the gun i stan

/hg/ ruined an entire generation of men

>>64136131
What other duty guns offer stock 1 or 2 dot sights as options?

>>64130944 (OP)
You would be better off spend $500 on ammo

>>64130944 (OP)
Just get an RXM

>>64134525
I have a g22 not trade in. So why?

>>64134698
And serial killers go undetected til they die of old age. Whats your point?

>>64132606
>slide release
it's a slide STOP, nigger. You're not supposed to release the slide with it

>this entire thread
Why do you guys take it as a personal affront if someone doesn't like the brand?

>>64140772
>You're not supposed to release the slide with it Fuddlore, you lipshitz >never touch your gun, you acidic sweat might damage it!11!1! If it was bad for the gun then why would they let you do it? most manufacturers deem it and ok method in the manual. also the sLiDe sToP gets pushed every time you empty a mag and at much higher force from the recoil than just you pushin the dingus

sigger damage control thread

so is echelon the better glock?

>>64141300
Most of this thread has just been glazing Glock. Stop letting Sig live rent free in your head

>>64141300
It's a classic Jewish tactic. Cohen's got an intern sitting on here 24/7.

ITT: glocksucker malding