Thread 64131106

Which one did the next gen tank stuff better?

Both tanks are unmanned turret Tanks that are highly automatized and rely on APS and sensor fusion.

>>64131110
ZTZ-201 also appears to offer 360 vision via AR glasses for the crew.

>>64131113
The ZTZ-201 is a smaller and lighter tank, which uses a Diesel hybrid electric drive.

>>64131106 (OP)
This has got to be a shill thread, right? Besides the weird ass comparison, the zigger armata doesn't even exist.

One is vaporware born from extrapolating the oil price, the other will be a normal tank in service.
Discussing it is a waste of time.

>>64131116
Common chassis with the new IFV

>>64131119
>in service
>implying chinese tanks will ever be used even against militias
chinks are too scared for that

>>64131126
>irrelevant point

Oh goodie, an implessive 50 cent per hour thread.

>>64131113
Now that's cool.

>>64131143
it's not irrelevant, because they're both tanks that exist only for publicity stunts, as opposed to western tanks that actually see combat

>>64131106 (OP)
China wins because unlike Russia, they can actually produce them. Prepare to see them in the hundreds or if they are legit the successor of the Type 96 then prepare to see thousand+

>>64131222
>The L1 didn't see combat pre Ukraine
>The L2 didn't see combat pre Syria
>The Leclerc didn't see a high intensity battlefield, just minor COIN in Yemen
>Japanese, Italian, South Korean tanks: no combat in a foreseeable future

>>64131232
>hundreds
implessive

>>64131250
I dont even know what you are trying to say

>>64131250
>china's new tank or russia's armata
>gives a response why china win
>OMG here is Russia's tank casualty!
??? Are people here becoming this desperate?

>>64131258
>>64131263
>confused ESL noises

>>64131272
but enough about yourself

>>64131113
they dont have AR glasses on this one. Maybe they didnt put it on or only selected units

>>64131183
Probably another chinkposter which is much milder, since the chinkspammer always shit on western hardware at the same time, often right at the opening post with a snide remark, with something like "why is US so good" with a chinkshit pic doing implessive maneuvering.

>>64131284
Yea gotta wait for the parade to see who gets what.
The police is already arresting certain spotters in the area for unauthorized disclosure.

>>64131279
post hands gun and outlet

>>64131106 (OP)
Well, the chink one is relatively likely to not be vapourware, and far more likely to not break down on parade.

>>64131359
>vapourware
esl detected

You guys have to calm down. The chinkspammer might have been a faggot, but this is just a tank. Goddamn Indonesia, Israel, and Turkey make tanks.

>>64131106 (OP)
The Chinese turret seems to have actual fucking armor unlike the paper T-14 turret. Don't know about Chinese APS but we can be reasonably sure that Russian APS doesn't work. Distributed optics is good and something the Armata doesn't have as far as I'm aware. Possibly a better RWS on the ZTZ-201 but IDK
Overall it looks like and is functionally more similar US/European next generation tank prototypes and concepts than Slavshit. I'm expecting that their ZTZ-99 replacement will be similar to this but bigger

The new tanks with the AR goggles

>>64131457
My guy you people need to get over your illogical hate boner for muh Russia
we have video of Russian APS intercepting a Javelin
2:35
https://youtu.be/zZoU9BED8F0?si=FO2hrS3KZ-hSNhpJ

Airborne IFV. Looks like 4 smaller missiles on one side and 2 bigger ones on the other

Airborne APC with machine gun and grenade launcher

Airborne mortar gun carrier

Airborne mortar gun carrier

New IFV that share the same hull as the new tank

Why no new SPGs this time?

>>64131457
China's GL-6 is kinda similar to the Trophy.

https://youtu.be/59rf5YDu3sg?si=gWAPKnDjAg0bYMHK

>>64131106 (OP)
Ban evading shitter.

>>64131297
No, it's the same one. He's dumping the same images from his previous thread.

>>64131496
The PLz-05 already got a minor upgrade a year or so ago.

>>64131106 (OP)
>Which one did the next gen tank stuff better?
Poland
Equally vaporware, too. Only better!
>>64131476
>>64131480
>>64131482
>>64131485
why does chinesium chicom shit always look like a plastic toy?
this goes for everything from their rifles to their cars, plastic toy shit that hyper-focuses on kitschy looks and ignores everything that matters

New PLAN missiles:
YJ-15 (Ramjet CM)
YJ-17 (HGV)
YJ-19 (Scramjet HCM)
YJ-20 (Biconical MARV)

>>64131514
What about the new 203mm and even the rumoured EM guns?

>>64131518
Fuck

YJ-19 looks mental and the YJ-15 looks like the supersonic stealth cruise missile that was rumored for long time (aka Superior Version of the LRASM)

>>64131521
Dunno, haven't seen any big guns at this parade. But yet again, we havent seen all parade squadrons

>>64131505
Well then he's at least not starting shit flinging, yet.

>>64131518
All quad-packable on China's nuclear attack submarines.

>>64131536
Yj-15 is the YJ-12 successor, aka high supersonic sea skimming cruise.

The stealth missile is the AFK-98

>>64131518
YJ-15 looks like a slimmer version of the YJ-12

>>64131518
From the three hypersonics wouldn't the YJ-17 HGV be the least powerful since it's so flat? It means that it won't have enough space for a big warhead. Both the YJ-19 and YJ-20 seem to be much better antiship missiles.

>>64131580
Yj-17 would be a HGV aka a unpowered glider. Different engagement envelope compared to powered missiles.

Feed me.

>chink is dumping the same script again after the last shill thread was deleted
Sad life

>>64131106 (OP)
Why is everyone calling it the ZTZ-201 when we have no idea what the official designation is?

>>64131614
>Next gen weapon systems aren't interesting but we need 20 threads on slightly different cope cage designs

>>64131106 (OP)
China for the simple reason that it is reasonable to believe that China can actually get their next-gen tank out of the prototype stage and into mass production.

>>64131623
>Next gen weapon systems
lol
Chink dogs like you get the rope

>>64131594
Still, its shape means that it won't be able to carry as big warhead as the HACM and MARV. For antiship role the warhead size is key, that's why you should laugh at anyone who claims that the SM-6 is also antiship hypersonic missile with its 64kg warhead...

>>64131634
https://www.twz.com/land/sm-6-fired-at-target-ship-by-u-s-armys-typhon-launcher-from-down-under
Scared, chinky?

>>64131637
Very scared of a missile that delivers a warhead barely more than 2x 155mm shells

>>64131476
So, two crew confirmed?
Wonder what AI can now accomplish that can save a tank commander or gunner.

>>64131645
Clearly the sm6 is living rent free in your head since you brought it up completely unprompted in your own shill thread
Hell, even the LRASM lmao >>64131536

>>64131634
Yeah, I guess kinetic energy is the main killing device here. On the other hand, it being a glider can still potentially have the same 120kg warhead as a YJ-83, since saves the fuel space.

A 120kg semi armor piercing EFP warhead can be quite compact.

>>64131663
Picrel, the warhead does its main damage by being an EFP that explodes around itself after penetration.

>>64131654
>US "hypersonic" missile is an antiair missile with tiny warhead repurposed for "antiship" and ground attack role
>US main anti-ship missile is still a subsonic harpoon but in a body kit
>Chinese hypersonics: Scramjet HCM, HGV and MARV for both anti-ship and land attack role
Impressive

>>64131676
You start to sound very butthurt chinky. Decades and chinky still can't even match the LRASM. What a shithole

so is this thread one chinkshill talking to himself, or two chinkshills pretending to have an organic conversation?

>>64131676
Based.
The sooner the USN acknowledges that they are a sunset navy like the British the better.

>>64131689
It was originally three chinsects but one leaned back too far into a lathe.

>>64131671
They really do get some mileage out of that Exocet warhead clone.

>>64131645
Should be good enough to deal with tofu dreg rowboats. Provided they don't sink themselves whilst trying to bully fishermen first.

>>64131106 (OP)
They aren't comparable. One is a heavy tank (seven road wheels), the other is a light thank (six road wheels).

>>64131113
>>64131204
AR glasses are trash better just install good monitors.

>>64131689
It's one.

>>64131746
Oh no no no

>>64131897
>One got struck by a 30,000 ton cargo ship
>The other struck a <10,000 destroyer
That is not the epic own you think it is, chang.

>>64131897
You aren't fooling anyone with this image, retard.

>>64131897
Did you ever have dreams of greatness and success before you got lumped with having to parrot the vernacular of a Mongolian Nickelodeon fansite for a living?

>>64131516
>why does chinesium chicom shit always look like a plastic toy?
Bodykit looks implessive, and looking implessive is 90% of the aim for a face culture terrified of the thought of ever receiving a setback.

>>64131746
Who would win? The most advanced US nuclear sub or coral reefs?

>>64132089
not relevant to the absolute chink humiliation, don't try to change the subject.