Thread 64131715

Had the Russian VDV's BMDs been equipped with APS systems, how would their advance on Kyiv have differed during the initial phase of the SMO?

>got shat on in the other shill thread
>engage butthurt mod and spam another one

Considering they get shredded by small arms fire, there would've been no difference.

Same result but with dozens of ziggers killed by APS fratricide.

If I recall that infamous VDV column at Bucha got annihilated by an artillery strike.

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>>64131715 (OP)
Do the APS systems come with significant reserves of fuel, spare parts, ammo, etc?

>>64131755
The VDV didn't have those problems since they were better funded and smaller in size than the regular Russian army.

>>64131759
So why didn't the VDV get to Kyiv, anon?

>>64131769
They literally were at the outskirts of Kyiv stationed at Hostomel, where they set up a base and were deploying artillery and other heavy equipment for the long siege, until the negotiations from Turkey led them to being pulled out.

>>64131776
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>64131784
Who was controlling Hostomel until the Russians pulled out all the troops from the northern sector retard?

>>64131799
the funny part is you think diplomacy is what got them kicked out, not being chased out and hunted down like dogs

>>64131776
lmao haven't heard this one in a while

>>64131808
Were the Ukrainians besieging Hostomel prior the Russian pull out?

>>64131821
Ya mama was besieging my weiner before my pullout.

>>64131776
Stationed VDV in question:

>>64131776
It's fucking wild how thirdies will straight up lie about shit. Bitch we saw it all with our own eyes, the Russians were getting chopped up and were forced to retreat before their logistics entirely gave up the ghost and either spontaneous local retreats on a mass scale happened or entire formations ran the risk of withering on the vine.

>>64132025
They are stationary.

>>64132025
Is that footage from Hostomel?

>>64132048
Yeah actually

>>64131776
You've got to be baiting or russian, because no non-thirdie would ever believe that

>>64132025
>>64132050
I forgot that the elite Veh Deh Veh got surrounded and wiped out by Ukrainian Territorial Defense armed only with AKs, the occasional LAW, and light artillery. The first months of the war were fucking wild. Was the Great Abandooooning next, or was it the stalled convoy?

>>64131715 (OP)
prob not desu

>>64132075
convoy was next then abandooooning happened

>>64132048
Da

>>64132081
Legends tell that they are still in that elevator

>>64132065
Russians aren't thirdies, anon, they're second worldists, which is far worse

>>64131715 (OP)
I like the old ZBD-03, it's basically a dainty little battle taxi carrying a small squad and some fire support.

>>64131776
lmao

>>64132025
>>64131715 (OP)
It never ceases to amuse me that the typical airborne plan for taking out airbases involves light infantry with lightly armored vehicles landing on a open field, coincidently the exact situation where the sorts of guns that defend those places murder the shit out of infantry and light armor.

>>64132025
>>64132050
>>64132048
It was ambush like 10 km away for Hostomel closer to Kiev.
Dudes that stopped this RUSH B were Ukrainian President Secret Service equivalent that were deployed as quick response unit.

>>64131715 (OP)
They don't have enough armor or weight for APS systems. Next question.

>>64132075
Many of the troops in Hostomel were actually the special ops unit of the National Guard, they had some ZSUs and MANPADs.

>>64133797
50°33'55.7"N 30°16'13.7"E is where the ambush was.

>>64131776
>negotiations from turkey
nigger

>>64131799
aahhhh Im controooolling

>>64134347
It's supposed to look like that.

>>64131715 (OP)
Any plan that can be thwarted by a local national guard unit using its artillery to crater your captured runway is a retarded plan.
At that point, equipment or morale does not matter.

>>64132121
With the Magical Red Forest Adventure somewhere in between.

>>64131776
never gets old when they try to rewrite (very recent) history

>>64134407
I forgot they did this. Fucking retards kek.