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Anonymous No.64136790 >>64136791 >>64136802 >>64136918 >>64136959 >>64139361 >>64139614 >>64140022 >>64140125 >>64141035 >>64141042 >>64142910 >>64143266 >>64143400 >>64143445 >>64143490 >>64148937
European MiC - is there anything relevant happening with it? Can we realisticaly expect a major rearmament in next 3 years or is it all just a show?
Anonymous No.64136791 >>64136811 >>64136907 >>64136934 >>64137007 >>64139361 >>64143291 >>64148961
>>64136790 (OP)
War is going to end soon. No rearming.
Anonymous No.64136802 >>64136845
>>64136790 (OP)
Dunno, but Patria seems to be selling a lot of 6x6 APCs with the CAVS program.
Anonymous No.64136811 >>64136840
>>64136791
2 more weeks comrade since 2022
Anonymous No.64136840 >>64136907 >>64136925 >>64136934 >>64136945 >>64136952 >>64137007 >>64137014 >>64137050 >>64137057 >>64137089 >>64137184 >>64139361 >>64143291
>>64136811
They already made a deal. Didn't you hear macron? Ukraine lost. NATO backstabbed their ally. Proxy war is over.
Anonymous No.64136845
>>64136802
Some Finnish ammo & explosive manufacturers seem to be having a good time, too.
I think Nammo Lapua was pretty badly limited by the primer shortage, but they've had a new primer plant in the works for a couple of years. At least according to the original schedules, it's supposed to open this year.
Maybe the price of ammo will go down a bit?
Anonymous No.64136907 >>64140384
>>64136840
>>64136791
Lmao at the faggots who think however this fuckery goes will somehow make the world more peaceful. Defense is still gonna go to the fucking moon and there’s nothing any retarded great-man theory believer can do about it
Anonymous No.64136918
>>64136790 (OP)
>letter of intent
xD
Anonymous No.64136925
>>64136840
14 more days and it's over
Anonymous No.64136934
>>64136791
>>64136840
Da, we must of cancel wasting money on warfare arms. Perkele!
t. pekka pekkanen from helsingfors oblast
Anonymous No.64136945
>>64136840
2 more weeks until you memory hole this prediction
Anonymous No.64136947 >>64136956 >>64136969 >>64137086 >>64137245 >>64140022 >>64142863
Euro MIC is going to skyrocket (and already is skyrocketing).

USA has proved to be too unreliable and it pulling away from NATO is not unthinkable, based on US internal politics chaos. Europe has relied of "USA will back us up with weapons and material in case Russia tries something stupid" but now they have realized that that is too uncertain.

So now they are massivley increasing their military industries. New factores opened, old production upramped... They are preparing for the continuity that US will shit it's partnerships and won't help in time of need. Euros HAVE TO upgrade their military productions to be self-sufficient.

This is bad news for US MIC, because as Euros improve their own weapons production, US MIC will lose customers. That's billions worth of weapons sales lost. And with that comes the loss of US political soft power.
There will be a time when Euros can just ignore US requests/demands because they are no longer dependent on their military aid.
It is utterly retarded way of handling foreign policy from the US. They are harming their own long-term strategic intrests with this shit.
Anonymous No.64136952
>>64136840
Even if Trump manage to impose surrender

1. There is already a Putin plan to break it by false flag and continue the war. Why would he ask for the most fortified area if he did not ?
2. World is still a far less safer place than 2021

Defense spending going boom boom wether you want it or not Sergei. Shattering post cold war order has consequences
Anonymous No.64136956 >>64136958 >>64137081
>>64136947
>ESL
Opinion disregarded
Anonymous No.64136958 >>64136973
>>64136956
>there are ESLs in a thread about Europe
no way...
Anonymous No.64136959
>>64136790 (OP)
major rearmament has already started
Anonymous No.64136969 >>64136978 >>64136984 >>64136993 >>64137035 >>64143012
>>64136947
You make some good points, but China is America's greatest adversary now and Europe would never help the US fight China. So getting the EU to defend themselves frees up more personal/equipment to fight the chinks.
Anonymous No.64136973 >>64136987 >>64136996
>>64136958
Maybe they should go to their own boards instead of the American one then.
>shit on America on American board
>get shit on in turn
Shocker. But I don't expect much critical thought from Euros in the first place. They're sooooo scared of big bad Russia, who also isn't capable of shit and will exhaust their entire population any day now according to them, and yet all those invaders you guys let in are of no concern. Such little concern, in fact, that the police would rather arrest people who speak out against them for their violence than arrest the ones committing the violence.
The only thing you are long-term is a slave of the caliphate. By all rights, we should come over there and bomb you back into submission to us before you create another threat.
Anonymous No.64136978
>>64136969
>and Europe would never help the US fight China
Not after how US fucked over Europe in Ukraine
Anonymous No.64136984 >>64143239
>>64136969
>China is America's greatest adversary
1. there will never be any land war there;
2. with how modern US operates, US will cuck out and look the other way;
Anonymous No.64136987 >>64137033
>>64136973
>american board
Please point on the doll where is american owner
Anonymous No.64136993
>>64136969
the frogs, Germans Italians and Spanish have all held exercises to see how feasible it would be to deploy to south east Asia
the will to do so after how Trump's administration treated them is probably gone but it was being planned for.
and Europe can already defend it's self from the russians. They have little over 2.3 million men in uniform all told
the main US commitment to them is two divisions that are stationed in Europe. two division that would be critical in what is probably going to be primarily naval war
Anonymous No.64136996 >>64137033
>>64136973
0/10 bait
Anonymous No.64137007
>>64136791
>>64136840
Nervous?
Anonymous No.64137014 >>64137027
>>64136840
>Didn't you hear macron? Ukraine lost.
Like, I read through a dozen of French newspapers this last week. Tell me were he does say that nigger.
Anonymous No.64137027 >>64137047 >>64137094
>>64137014
They don't say nigger there, they say le niggur
Anonymous No.64137033 >>64137044 >>64138648
>>64136987
It's based in Delaware and was founded by Moot. This whole site is legally an American company. This was even a recent concern, because the UK is attempting to impose censorship on this site and on other sites who are run by American companies. You fags are literally making yourselves threats to us and you have the gall to ask that.
>>64136996
We fought a fucking war to get away from you. All of you. My hatred of the Eurofag is complete and pure. If we must annihilate you fully to free ourselves of your further tyranny, so be it.
Anonymous No.64137035 >>64137068 >>64137291
>>64136969
If it comes to actual legitimate war the European powers will most definitely heavily support the US with hefty industrial capacity of ship construction and military hardware and Naval support. European Navies can throw in 279 aircraft carriers aviation compacity and with Japan and maybe India that jumps to 443 aircraft, when combined with US Supercarriers and the Wasp/America classes it becomes a holistic Carrier force brining 2,151. Never mind the rest of the naval support and the Industrial potential of Europe, Canada, and Australia, India COMBINED with the US. We are not yet past the point of the US alliance network being dead despite the last few months. The Second Century of Humiliation will proceed if we get a Pacific hyperwar
Anonymous No.64137044 >>64137087
>>64137033
>was founded by Moot
And US was founded by brits, doesn't mean it's british

>legally an American company
And TikTok is also legally an american company, yet everybody understands that it's not
Anonymous No.64137047
>>64137027
Nice sources you got there, Zigger. Either for you plain false statement about Macron or what the hell "niggur" is supposed to be.
Anonymous No.64137050
>>64136840
>Macron save us we are winning
The absolute state of ziggers
Anonymous No.64137057
>>64136840
now say it without sobbing, Vanuyshka
Anonymous No.64137068 >>64137085 >>64142618
>>64137035
>We are not yet past the point of the US alliance network being dead despite the last few months
Disagreed. At least for the EU, the message is clear: the US only sees us as vasals/colony markets, eager to use us for their 15 year war on terror, glad to dump us once Russia comes knocking (although eager to sell us weapons, for a price of course), and happy to blackmail us with tarrifs along the way.

So, time to focus on trade and relations with China and take a neutral stance to their enmity with the US. Sucks, but no one wants fair-weather "friends".
Anonymous No.64137081
>>64136956
I really don't get the pride in knowing only one language
Anonymous No.64137085 >>64137110 >>64137476
>>64137068
Dude China is literally helping Russia in Ukraine
Anonymous No.64137086
>>64136947
I'm not so sure about that. See Rheinmetall going all in with Lockheed. The increase in defence is massive indeed and I'm not sure that the European manufacturer can follow and meet all the needs. Seem there's enough for two.
Also you don't get ride of old habits that easily. Despite all the shitshow Trump made and the whole F-35 kill switch panic, some UE countries like belgium were still buying some more aircrafts, hoping it would sooth the Orange man.
Anonymous No.64137087
>>64137044
Wrong, the US was founded by Americans. The Founding Fathers and the men who fought were all born here, not over in Shits-In-Pants-On-The-Bus or wherever.
Legally, it is American, and the UK through Ofcom has attempted to censor this site. Hope you get used to shutting up, soon you won't be able to post here anymore.
Anonymous No.64137089 >>64137359 >>64139905
>>64136840
i cant believe american are now goyims of both jews and russians
Anonymous No.64137094 >>64137124
>>64137027
le nijer
Anonymous No.64137110
>>64137085
I know, hence we'll have to offer them something along the lines of "we'll do less trade with the US (and more with you) *if* you do less trade with russia (and more with us)".

Like I said, sucks, but realpolitik's gonna realpolitik.
Anonymous No.64137124
>>64137094
Is indeed where all those wagnermutt get buttfucked and humiliated by islamist nigers. Slowling getting there buddy.
Anonymous No.64137184 >>64137230
>>64136840
>trump signs deal surrendering Ukraine
>Russians try to occupy their new territory
>get shot by Ukrainian soldiers who didn't sign the deal
what now
Anonymous No.64137230
>>64137184
Oy vey nazi russophobia
Anonymous No.64137245 >>64137250
>>64136947
>USA has proved to be too unreliable and it pulling away from NATO is not unthinkable
Neither is true. Currently it simply more viable to buy local and pump money into their own industry to create jobs. Politically it is also more popular to go for a european option instead of going for the USA.
Anonymous No.64137250
>>64137245
>Neither is true
Did you live under a rock for the last year?
Anonymous No.64137291
>>64137035
>We are not yet past the point of the US alliance network being dead despite the last few months
LOL. Lmao even
Anonymous No.64137359 >>64137444
>>64137089
Careful there, you can be arrested for saying that in your country.
Anonymous No.64137444 >>64139952
>>64137359
im not american tho
no aipac here
Anonymous No.64137476 >>64137500
>>64137085
But they're still also selling to Ukraine. DJI is free to operate in Ukraine and is making an absolute killing.
Anonymous No.64137500 >>64137507
>>64137476
>DJI is free to operate in Ukraine and is making an absolute killing.
Bruh, chink stopped selling consumer drones to Ukraine like in 2023 or earlier, ukies have to raid european stores for them
Anonymous No.64137507 >>64137527 >>64137530
>>64137500
Prove it
Anonymous No.64137527 >>64137556
>>64137507
https://apnews.com/article/china-ukraine-russia-drone-export-dji-e6694b3209b4d8a93fd76cf29bd8a056
Anonymous No.64137530 >>64137556
>>64137507
My brown friend, initial export restrictions were enacted by China in 2023: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67078089
By 2024 it became an issue: https://www.csis.org/analysis/why-chinas-uav-supply-chain-restrictions-weaken-ukraines-negotiating-power
By 2025 it stopped entirely: https://kyivindependent.com/china-suts-drone-sales-to-ukraine-west-but-continues-supplying-russia-bloomberg-reports/
Anonymous No.64137556 >>64137572
>>64137527
>>64137530
Fake news, DJI is still selling to Ukraine.
Anonymous No.64137572
>>64137556
Fake news, you are gay
Anonymous No.64138648 >>64139966
>>64137033
>We fought a fucking war to get away from you
more like France, Spain and the Dutch fought a war with native help to get you away from the Brits
Anonymous No.64139361
>>64136790 (OP)
Nobody will know for sure until Vance wins the next couple elections in the USA and it becomes clear that pussyfooting around isn't going to make the looming issues go away. Right now everyone's just waiting for Trump to get out so that they can see if the grift can be safely rebooted without interference.

>>64136791
War is not ending soon. Russia is, China's next, and that war will go on for at least a couple of decades. In the future there is only war.

>>64136840
>France matters, we promise!
It doesn't. They'll do what they're told.
Anonymous No.64139614
>>64136790 (OP)
Europeans were unable to build any stealth aircraft. That speaks volumes
Anonymous No.64139905 >>64139927
>>64137089
It's called owning the libs, anon.
Anonymous No.64139927 >>64140067
>>64139905
This was based
Anonymous No.64139952 >>64142525
>>64137444
I can go outside and scream at the top of my lungs that I hate Jews, Muslims, niggers, Israel, Palestine, and whoever the hell else, and will not be arrested. You "people" have hate speech laws that will guarantee that even the barest criticism of these groups, including reporting crimes by them, will land you in jail for the rest of your life. Hell, you can even be arrested for flying your country's flag in your yard or praying in your head. You can literally be jailed for thought crimes, if the police say they believe you were thinking it.
Anonymous No.64139966 >>64141074 >>64141075 >>64141080 >>64142221 >>64143323 >>64145818
>>64138648
>France
They sent a boat. One boat.
>Spain and the Dutch
Schizobabble
>with native help
French and Indian War =/= Revolutionary War
Also I'll correct myself, we fought TWO wars to get away from Europe's bullshit, because Bongs kept abducting and mutilating our citizens at sea. Canada still needs to be burned for what they did to the White House by the way, and they will be one day.
Washington's entire vision for this country, as he outright said and warned us about in his farewell address, was to not form political parties and don't EVER get involved with Europe again. As you can see, his advice has gone unheeded to our own detriment. Jefferson was alright for wanting to burn the UK though.
Anonymous No.64140022
>>64136790 (OP)
If the war in Ukraine ends (lmao) then yes, ironically more than ever. The Russians won't be bogged down losing hundreds of thousands of men and literally all of their armor and other gear in the meatgrinder--they'll be free to rearm and plan their next retarded schizo special military disaster. And it could be any number of potential targets, including Ukraine and it's NATO peacekeeping trip-wire force. I guarantee that many dipshit Euro parties will attempt to use the end of the war as an excuse to go back to cutting defense spending, but they'll be shouted down by the rest of their respective parties and the backlash will be harsh. You just know the Germs are going to try to go back to sweet Russian fuel the second there's a ceasefire. They can't be fixed. It probably wouldn't work though.

And if the war continues then rearmament needs to continue regardless.

>>64136947
I agree that the US is retarded, however it makes sense for us to pivot from Europe and focus on China. They can handle their own defense and apparently, while they're are at it, they can cuck out over tariffs and grovel at our feet while offering hundreds of billions in investments + total capitulation to our corporations. Regardless of if any of that comes to pass, it is the most pathetic diplomatic event I have ever witnessed. A bad look. Far right EU parties will have a field day next election cycle as a response to the invasion by migrants, Russians, and American corporate and economic influence.
Anonymous No.64140067 >>64140144 >>64141051
>>64139927
Yes, indeed.
Anonymous No.64140125
>>64136790 (OP)
>What truly is fusion-fission device


Such a delicate device, who'd know to make one.
Anonymous No.64140144 >>64140268 >>64141708
>>64140067
>liberals are US patriots now
>MAGA cheers as Russians insult them to their face
Can we have Reagan back?
Anonymous No.64140268 >>64140310
>>64140144
Reagan was a Soviet stooge, just like Trump.
Anonymous No.64140310
>>64140268
And that's how we know how to spot a maga-rossijan.
Traitors deserve only one treatment. Or if you want it in your own language "Cмepть шпиoнaм".
Anonymous No.64140384
>>64136907
No no this will secure peace, the greatest peace and don the con will get the peace prize he deserves because like, he had a meeting with puting and gave him everything he wanted and rewarded aggression
Anonymous No.64141035
>>64136790 (OP)
Would had
New no money policy , complete surveilance policy and censorchip one party policy will brain drain europe so hard that they wont just revert, they'll reverse into uncontacted african tribe level inovation
Anyone who couldnt or didnt leave will ether get arrested by the gaystapo or wont work due to all their savings being removed
Why work if you cant even keep a single dime
They will flee to usa or russia for a better life
Europe will fall by their own greed
Any advencment will stop soon, probably 2 years from now
As soon as it happens, all military contract will be unable to get skilled personnel due to debanking because anyone smart enought to notice will be in jail or unallowed to get a job
Future of th EU is not bright
Anonymous No.64141042
>>64136790 (OP)
The golden goose is on the loose, anon.
Anonymous No.64141051 >>64141094
>>64140067
>Lord Bebo
With zoka_200 and oomfie syria faggot gone and with copelord getting awfully quiet, he's the only one that keeps the fire burning.
Anonymous No.64141074 >>64141075
>>64139966
1/2
Brought to you by Microsoft Copilot. No, I am not putting in anymore effort to adress your sperging.

1. France didn’t just send “a boat.” They were essential to the American victory in the Revolutionary War. France provided over 12,000 troops, a powerful navy under Admiral de Grasse that blockaded Yorktown, and millions of livres in financial aid. French officers like Lafayette fought directly alongside Washington. Their support was diplomatic, logistical, and military. Without France, the war likely would’ve failed.

2. Spain and the Dutch Republic also contributed. Spain declared war on Britain in 1779, attacking British positions in Florida and the Gulf Coast, forcing Britain to divert troops. The Dutch Republic provided loans and arms to the Americans, which led Britain to declare war on them in 1780. These weren’t hallucinations—they were real geopolitical moves that stretched British resources and helped the American cause.

3. Native American involvement in the Revolutionary War was significant. While the French and Indian War was a separate conflict, many tribes took sides in the Revolution. Some allied with the British to resist American expansion, while others supported the Americans. Native alliances shaped frontier warfare and regional control. Dismissing this as irrelevant ignores the complexity of the war.
Anonymous No.64141075 >>64141856
>>64139966
>>64141074
2/2

4. The claim that the US fought “two wars to get away from Europe’s bullshit” is misleading. The Revolutionary War was against Britain, not “Europe.” The War of 1812 was about British impressment of American sailors, trade restrictions, and frontier tensions—not a blanket rejection of Europe. It was a conflict with one country over specific grievances, not a philosophical divorce from an entire continent.
5. The burning of Washington in 1814 was retaliation for the American attack on York (now Toronto). Canada didn’t act independently—it was part of British North America. The idea of “burning Canada” today is just emotional venting, not serious historical or strategic thinking. Wars have tit-for-tat actions, and this was one of them.

6. Washington’s Farewell Address did warn against entangling alliances, but that advice was given in the 1790s when the US was weak and isolated. Today’s world is interconnected, and alliances like NATO have helped prevent major wars in Europe. Strategic partnerships are not betrayals of Washington’s vision—they’re adaptations to modern threats.

7. Jefferson had strong anti-British views, but he also pursued diplomacy when it served American interests. He bought Louisiana from France, sent envoys to negotiate with Britain, and supported trade deals. His foreign policy wasn’t just “burn the UK”—it was pragmatic and opportunistic, like any serious statesman’s.
Anonymous No.64141080 >>64141856
>>64139966
The reason why the French Revolution happened was because France had bankrupted itself on supporting the American revolutionaries.
Anonymous No.64141094 >>64141714
>>64141051
>FRONT COLLAPSE №9000 ITS OVYIR
meanwhile in reality
Anonymous No.64141708
>>64140144
Reagan was even worse than Trump. Ultra-capitalism (ie. Unnopsed oligarchy)should be destroyed as an ideology. It ruins everything it touches.
Anonymous No.64141714 >>64148965
>>64141094
Hey... I remember that episode!
Anonymous No.64141856
>>64141075
>The War of 1812 was about British impressment of American sailors, trade restrictions, and frontier tensions
It was a bunch of thieves seeing another opportunity for theft while the French were acting up.

>>64141080
Frankly the USA existing has been an increasingly severe string of disasters for the entire world.
Anonymous No.64142221 >>64143282
>>64139966
>They sent a boat. One boat.
Reminder there were more French forces at Yorktown than American ones.
Anonymous No.64142396 >>64142835
Vassals
Anonymous No.64142525
>>64139952
>You "people" have hate speech laws that will guarantee that even the barest criticism of these groups, including reporting crimes by them, will land you in jail for the rest of your life. Hell, you can even be arrested for flying your country's flag in your yard or praying in your head.
That's the UK, where I'm never setting foot. You're right about le hate speech laws though, those are fairly common here. I hate the local leftists harping on about "responsibility of speech" whenever freedom of speech comes up
Anonymous No.64142618 >>64142793
>>64137068
To be fair, you ARE nothing but colony markets and tourist destinations for us to use as necessary. We don’t HAVE to be nice to you, we’re simply bigger, badder and better than you.
Anonymous No.64142793 >>64142988
>>64142618
>we’re simply bigger
My brown friend, EU is bigger than US
Anonymous No.64142835
>>64142396
(vassal)
Anonymous No.64142863 >>64142929
>>64136947
“Soft political power” doesn’t actually exist. Europe has never done anything for the USA that wasn’t for their own interests first.
Anonymous No.64142910
>>64136790 (OP)
I wouldn’t expect much desu, Russia has proven to be a paper tiger and Europe is too friendly with China to put up a fight against them. We’ll see some token efforts put into pretending they’re keeping up, then they’ll decide it’s too expensive and pull the plug as usual.
Anonymous No.64142929
>>64142863
we gave you ozempic out of deep concern
Anonymous No.64142963 >>64143023
Could America survive? We have a lot of enemies and almost no allies.
Anonymous No.64142988 >>64143029
>>64142793
>He thinks land mass is more important than military might
Pfft, we’d better watch out for the Canadians then.
Anonymous No.64143012 >>64143021
>>64136969
>now and Europe would never help the US fight China.
But it would have. Maybe not on the frontlines as they don't have that much projection capabilities, but still to some extent. And definitely on the rear, with help in logistics, refueling, and so on.
And the most important help of all, being hands in hands with the US on sanctions against them. Now after Trump's display, good luck on having them sanction chyna and stop trade with them. And good luck on defeating chyna if it can still freely get truckload of money.
Not that it matters anyway, we just had the confirmation Xi WILL invade during the current term, and Taiwan won't get any help. Or maybe if the sign a 500 billion mineral deal, they may get a fuzzy promise about thinking of sending 12 patriot missiles. And a "good luck" tap on the back.
Anonymous No.64143021 >>64143064
>>64143012
Europe couldn’t even be bothered to sanction Russia, what makes you think they’d sanction China?
Anonymous No.64143023 >>64143073
>>64142963
Unironically the US could solo a good chunk of the world on its own. And while the Big Gorilla that is the US is beating the horde of macaques that is the rest of the planet, some will be taking the chance to make their own plays and grabs for land/power/etc. It’d be a clusterfuck, but the US would be able to handle it. And even afterwards, the US is a huge pain in the fucking ass to invade by sheer scale and geography alone. Even completely depleted militarily, almost nobody could properly occupy it. It’s like the memes of China coming down through Leafistan to invade. Have you seen how fucking BIG even just one province is up there? How minimal the infrastructure is? It’s the biggest logistical nightmare ever.
Anonymous No.64143029 >>64143805
>>64142988
My brown friend, EU also bigger in population
Anonymous No.64143064 >>64143081 >>64149012
>>64143021
Nigger, Europe sanctioned Russia to hell, froze their central bank's assets, and phased out Russian energy by like fucking 10 in a mere 3 years. I don't think you realize how much of a logistical Herculean task that last point is.
>nooooo it's not an absolute zero
It will be, but at this point you're looking at breadcrumbs anyway, and from zigger cumslurpers like Hungary still buying their shit. Which coincidentally was dealt with yesterday when EU gave Zelensky the green to blow up that shitty pipeline after being fed up with Orban's cum slurping tendencies. Now the road to zero looks bright.
Anonymous No.64143073 >>64143805
>>64143023
The Chinese are taking the long term view (helps if you don't shift strategy every 4 years ASSUMING your leader is at least somewhat capable) and they're perfectly fine with slowly building up power and networks over time. The US is unassailable, fact, but at the same time its isolation means that it needs to intervene elsewhere to not get... well, isolated.

It's the World Island theory all over again (this time featuring China instead of the USSR): whoever controls Eurasia controls Africa and Oceania and thus controls almost three-quarters of the world.
Anonymous No.64143081 >>64143175
>>64143064
Europe only started seriously sanctioning Russia after the 2022 invasion. Before that it was barely anything, despite us warning them for decades. Our friendship and soft power meant nothing in the face of cheap oil, how can we trust Europe when they’ll so eagerly abandon their allies and stab us in the back?
Anonymous No.64143175 >>64143211
>>64143081
US warning for decades
>hey yourup buy our fracking LNG
>nah man it's way to expensive
>hey yourup russia is going to attack you buy our fracking LNG, also we just reset our relationship with russia, again so we are good buddies now, again
>lol yea right I'd like to see that happen
>well it's super duper serious now, buy our LNG
>just like Iraq was super duper serious?
the US spend decades trying to get us to buy more of their more expensive energy, out of the kindness of their hearts ofc.
Anonymous No.64143211 >>64143238
>>64143175
So Europe sided with Russia instead and now they’re surprised that the US isn’t in the mood to bail them out for no gain to us?
Anonymous No.64143238 >>64143251
>>64143211
The US has never bailed out anyone out of the kindness of their own hearts. Don't play the saint.
Anonymous No.64143239
>>64136984
Honest to god, what is the point of having a nearly TRILLION DOLLAR defense budget if all you use it for is bombing Iran once every few years with it? Every time they have the chance to use it for something justified, they completely cuck out, so what is the actual point?
Anonymous No.64143251 >>64143283 >>64143324
>>64143238
And the US gets absolutely no “soft power” in Europe for all of our military efforts. Europe will always side with whoever offers them cheaper goods, so they’ll probably side with China
Anonymous No.64143258 >>64143276 >>64143281 >>64143483 >>64143723 >>64143784 >>64143819 >>64143843 >>64143983
Trump mogged here
Anonymous No.64143266
>>64136790 (OP)
death to america zigger vassal state
Anonymous No.64143276 >>64143281 >>64143428 >>64143723
>>64143258
Anonymous No.64143281
>>64143276
>>64143258
Eurodef stocks cratering right now holy shit
Anonymous No.64143282 >>64143305
>>64142221
>Germans
Huh? Was the Revolutionary war really that intertwined?
Anonymous No.64143283 >>64143313
>>64143251
annon just because they don't bend backwards just because you asked them to doesn't mean you don't have influence on them. Just not enough to give you trillions just because you asked them to.
Anonymous No.64143291
>>64136791
>>64136840
now say it without shaking, zigger.
Anonymous No.64143303
This started way too late, this super rearming should've been ramped to 9001 by summer 2022. Nothing would have screamed US/EU MIC supremacy like a blown up Crimean bridge and giving the Ukrainians the ability to isolate Crimea and use its conquest as a motive for peace.
Anonymous No.64143305 >>64143311 >>64143994
>>64143282
George was king of Hanover, anon, learn some history for Pete's sake. Why did Washington cross the Delaware?
Anonymous No.64143311
>>64143305
T-To get to the other side?
Anonymous No.64143313 >>64143360 >>64143393 >>64149032
>>64143283
Having influence means being able to convince them to do things for your mutual benefit. If you can’t even convince Europe not to spend money on the nation that’s going to invade them then you have literally jack shit in terms of influence.
Anonymous No.64143323
>>64139966
>retard doesn't understand that the US were poorfags and moneyballin' sea-draining dutchmen sent them a small loan of 30 million guilders to help them not be poor
we were a constitutional republic with democratic values before you fags, lmao, get rekt.
Anonymous No.64143324
>>64143251
>And the US gets absolutely no “soft power” in Europe for all of our military efforts
If this was true you wouldn't see 90% of our politicians crying about about "rising antisemitism" everytime somebody with a profile criticizes Israel
Anonymous No.64143360
>>64143313
You can thank Powell for that, the US had a very big "boy who cried wolf" reputation in diplomatic circles following the utter catastrophe that was the War On Terror
Anonymous No.64143393 >>64143421
>>64143313
the US had two diplomatic resets with the russians
if the russians where such an aggressive state that was going to invade the EU any minute now, pinky promise. why did the US keep trying to be friends with them?
Anonymous No.64143400
>>64136790 (OP)
pretty much every country in the is looking to increase theIr defense budget right now, and if trump'sm peace deal involves nato troops enforcing the dmz this will become more apparent
Anonymous No.64143421
>>64143393
yes, these two diplomatic resets triggered TZD bloodlust in the general american public.
trump's not a very good representation of general US sentiment on the war.
Anonymous No.64143428 >>64143450 >>64143478
>>64143276
Friendly reminder
What europe is desperately trying to prevent right now is... the loss of the deep red territory. Light red has already been lost and will not be returned in any way, unless europe literally joined the war itself (lol). All of ukraine is what everyone excepted to be lost back in the first days of the war... and that would not have been a catastrophe for europe either. Europeans are humbling themselves to pursue maximalist goals in this, not anything of actual importance.
Anonymous No.64143445
>>64136790 (OP)
serbia,romania,germany just had massive orders for israel, a lot of europe is importing weapons.
Anonymous No.64143450 >>64143466
>>64143428
>Light red has already been lost and will not be returned in any way,
We will see once ziggerstan's economy collapses
Anonymous No.64143454
>retards & vatnigs desperately trying to drive a wedge between Europe and the US
Hey retards, you do realize that not even the US can produce enough material and manpower to fight all the BRICS countries at the same time, and that the US has been trying to get Europe to re-militarize since Obongo so they can move their focus onto Taiwan & China?

No matter how much you piss and moan about DRUMPF and concern troll over "muh' lost american influence", no matter which party was in office the US would be pulling out of Europe in order to focus on asia.
Anonymous No.64143466 >>64143482
>>64143450
14 days?
Anonymous No.64143478 >>64143504
>>64143428
I wish we would enter the war, russians are pulling in Norks so all sense of fair-play is gone anyway. What are they going to do? Nuke? Then they will be glassed as well. I am saying this as a former NCO who will be drafted if it comes to this.
Anonymous No.64143482 >>64143512
>>64143466
It's definitely going to be in worse state in a fortnight than it is today (and this will remain true for the forseeable future) but I'm betting more on two more years.
Anonymous No.64143483
>>64143258
What a power move
Anonymous No.64143490
>>64136790 (OP)
I donno but CSG has a whole page dedicated to technical conversions so that's pretty cool
https://defence.czechoslovakgroup.com/en/products/technicals
Anonymous No.64143504
>>64143478
I agree, but european populations are afraid of the nuke, justified or no. It is what it is.
Anonymous No.64143512 >>64143532 >>64143553
>>64143482
Trump will give russia win sooner than that and then he will remove sanctions. In 2 years russia will more likely attack ukraine again(or baltics) than be bankrupt.
Anonymous No.64143532 >>64143546 >>64143590
>>64143512
Trump isn’t going to declare war on Ukraine you hysterical retard
Anonymous No.64143546 >>64143560
>>64143532
If Trump removes the sanctions and stops aid (including that which europe would have paid for) ukraine is toast.
Anonymous No.64143553 >>64143638
>>64143512
>Trump will give russia win sooner than that and then he will remove sanctions
keep coping, thirdie, it's all you have in life
Anonymous No.64143560 >>64143582 >>64143631
>>64143546
Uh, no. Even with just European aid and without any Russian sanctions, Russia has absolutely no capacity to win the war. Theyre outgunned, outmanned, and have pitiful morale and training.
Anonymous No.64143582 >>64143621 >>64143638
>>64143560
>year 3 of ukraines 3-day special defensive operation
Anonymous No.64143590 >>64143623
>>64143532
He doesn't need to, so far he is succesful in making EU and Ukraine grovel to him after he rolled fucking red carpet to Putin.
Anonymous No.64143619
Yep, the russhits are pretty mad. I think they were expecting more from the Alaska meetings.
Anonymous No.64143621 >>64143637
>>64143582
>thirdie tries to flip meme he has no understanding of
>it fails
Using that is basically a self-own, you’re hitting yourself because YOUR ilk comes up with delusional cope sentences seriously and YOUR kind gets mocked for it.
you guys are so insecure lmao
Anonymous No.64143623
>>64143590
Except he hasn’t actually given Russia jack shit. They’re still losing in Ukraine.
Anonymous No.64143631 >>64143644 >>64143653
>>64143560
Russia is advancing, slowly but surely. Ukraine isn't. We don't know how close exactly russia is to collapse, but ukrainian manpower is pretty damn close.
Anonymous No.64143637 >>64145717
>>64143621
Cope. 14 more days right?
Anonymous No.64143638 >>64143645 >>64143723
>>64143553
yeah everything is fine which why eu is bending over after being treated like this.

>>64143582
Ukraine never claimed it would fight off russia in 3 days dipshit. It was russian state news agency that claimed russia would take over Kyiv in 2 days.
Anonymous No.64143644
>>64143631
>Ukraine will never retake ground
Where have I heard this before?
Anonymous No.64143645 >>64143659
>>64143638
Wait, so Ukraine is just letting Russia occupy its territory for funsies?
Anonymous No.64143653
>>64143631
Ukraine is advancing, not Russia
Anonymous No.64143659 >>64143667
>>64143645
No, but it seems you are too retarded to understand meaning of that meme and why it doesn't work when flipped.
Anonymous No.64143667 >>64143708
>>64143659
>it didn’t work
>nevermind the fact I made 2 cope posts about it
Yeah it worked pal
Anonymous No.64143708
>>64143667
Russia permanently lost on day 4 since they officially stated the operation would take 3 days. It doesn't matter what happens now, vatniks are still embarrassed and Ukraine will be considered the winner of the 3 day "SMO". Similarly Trump yielded his democratic legitimacy and became a clown when he stated it would take 1 day to end the conflict. Any pro-Russian or pro-Trump rhetoric can be countered and contained by pointing out this failure to meet self imposed timelines. Sorry you lost in the information space, glavset shill.
Anonymous No.64143723 >>64143735 >>64143921
>>64143258
>>64143276
>>64143638
>guys sitting at a desk is such a power-move
>so heckin' zased!
Am I autistic, or are you autistic? Because one of us is clearly misunderstanding some body-language cues here.
Anonymous No.64143735 >>64143745
>>64143723
It’s you misreading cues. Frankly, I’m not surprised
Anonymous No.64143745
>>64143735
ok, now elaborate on that, because this shit just looks like a bunch of guys sitting in chairs to me.
Anonymous No.64143784
>>64143258
Insane how Trump was able to get them to bend the knee after rolling out the red carpet for Putin. That’s power
Anonymous No.64143805 >>64143814
>>64143029
Whiter than you.
And population matters less than military might. And the US is king on that front wnd will be for the foreseeable future.
>>64143073
I mean, if we need to “intervene”, we could go and kick China’s dick in pretty easily. Maybe another Century of Humiliation is in order.
Anonymous No.64143814
>>64143805
> Maybe another Century of Humiliation is in order.
Sorry pal, this is Europe’s century of humiliation
Anonymous No.64143819 >>64143846 >>64148981
>>64143258
Starmer was the clear leader in that room.
Anonymous No.64143843
>>64143258
When the boss calls, you answer. Enough said
Anonymous No.64143846 >>64143850
>>64143819
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous No.64143850 >>64143855
>>64143846
>highlighting UK leadership causes the turdie zigger to seethe
Called it
Anonymous No.64143855 >>64143884
>>64143850
99% of the worlds population couldn’t pic starter out of that photo. But they would recognize the hand
Anonymous No.64143884 >>64143920
>>64143855
99% of the world's population would die if they drank your tap water, rajesh.

White countries support Ukraine, and recognize the UK's acclaimed leadership as the nerve center of the anti-Putin coalition.
Anonymous No.64143920
>>64143884
>the UK's acclaimed leadership as the nerve center of the anti-Putin coalition
We are allies so I shall not call out your harmless delusion.
Anonymous No.64143921 >>64143928
>>64143723
>power-move
yes
>so heckin' zased!
No. Trump is handing China global hegemony on silver platter which will result in USA having to follow rules set up by China in next few decades maybe even sooner. But that doesn't change the fact that he humilated EU and Ukraine and forced them to do what he wanted.
Anonymous No.64143928
>>64143921
Don’t forget eu already cucked to trump on tariffs/trade
Anonymous No.64143980 >>64144012
How many times is the thirdie in here going to autistically shriek about Trump?
Anonymous No.64143983 >>64143992
>>64143258
wrong, IUPITER dominated them all, as per usual.
Anonymous No.64143992
>>64143983
More like stupider
Anonymous No.64143994
>>64143305
He was trying to register his company there for those low corporate tax rates?
Anonymous No.64144012
>>64143980
He's trying so hard to troll.
Anonymous No.64145717
>>64143637
>n-no you say it will take 14 days
Nope, none of us said any such thing, you did though and in a serious manner too, which is why it became a meme, you were mocked for it.
another self-own for you
Anonymous No.64145818
>>64139966
>They sent a boat. One boat.
France sent an entire fleet that saved your ass at Chesapeake.
Yorktown was a mainly French victory.
Anonymous No.64146171 >>64148532
Reminder
Anonymous No.64148532
>>64146171
>reminder that i am mad and am angry that you are not also impressed by keydangling imagery
we already knew that about you, you didn’t have to stumble over yourself trying to clear that up again, Seething thirdie-sama
Anonymous No.64148937 >>64148991
>>64136790 (OP)
Europe has a sub 1 tfr in some parts and is just bringing in hordes of nons, same as ziggers too. Also having women leaders will always fail. They need to stop letting in browns and deport and get women out of politics and they can btfo ziggers
Anonymous No.64148961
>>64136791
>War is going to end soon.
Okay, and?

>No rearming.
YOu do relaise the war ending is irrelevant, as the contracts are signed anyway and the EU is gonna need a bunch of rearmament anyway to deal with whatever post-apocalyptic warlord states will emerge form the collapse of Russia?
Anonymous No.64148965
>>64141714
>the tactical encirlement of Odessa is complete
...wow, that one's a special take even by zigger standards.
Anonymous No.64148981
>>64143819
This
Anonymous No.64148991 >>64149087
>>64148937
>spams zigger narratives
>tries to preeempt everyone calling him a zigger
If you’re going to try the “migrant” disinfo shtick, at least try to make yourself less obvious. Back in the day you’d get meat cubed by Wagner for your overly overt post.
Anonymous No.64149012
>>64143064
Also, Ukraine jsut won an ICC court case over the 2014 crimean invasion that lets them freeze and seize billions from any russian money or corporate properties across the western financial system as compensation for russian theft of ukrainian corporate properties.
Anonymous No.64149032
>>64143313
>for your mutual benefit
And there's the rub. US governments have developed a bit of a problem where they just keep demanding shit that solely benefits them, or at least massively benefits them and barely the other side.
Anonymous No.64149087
>>64148991
Migrants and browns are a problem in europe, ziggers and russia send them there as well as israel. You cannot win if you have hostile browns who hate you and your people that sre being imported. Pro European can only work on a racial basis