Thread 64139746

Unsung heroes or a couple of druggy retards?

>>64139746 (OP)
They were cool but didn't hit shit.

>>64139746 (OP)
zogbots

The bank they robbed is the bank I use. It’s still there. I may have even eaten at the Taco Bell a block away, which IIRC was featured in the shootout. I went to the same high school as Emil Mătăsăreanu, and my parents also immigrated and settled into the very same town as his folks. I also love guns and used to lift. Though I’ve never robbed a bank or shot it out with the cops.

>>64139746 (OP)
Muscle relaxants have no real value as a PED other than making you a little more calm at best, or drowsy at worst. It's as performance enhancing as having a beer before the robbery to get loose.

>>64140100
>having a beer before the robbery to get loose
If I did that I wouldn't want to rob anything because I'd just want more beer...
>>64140092
>Taco Bell
... followed by Taco Bell.

>>64140109
I'd at least do a 9% tallboy, if I were so inclined.

Why did they have to commit the crime again when they had already made a million dollars?

>>64140117
Pure, unadulterated love of the game.

>>64140117
Why did John Dillinger's gang continue to rob banks after earning a ton of cash?

>>64140115
>a 9% tallboy
Best I can do is an 8% Natty Daddy.

>>64139746 (OP)
They were criminals who were zonked out on muscle relaxants and God knows what else. They had a viable plan for the initial robberies which worked well enough, but on the North Hollywood raid they got unlucky because they were spotted going in by a patrol officer and greedy when they couldn't get enough money from the cashiers. It took too long, and they had basically no time from the beginning since the alarm went out as they went in.

After that, it didn't matter how much firepower they had. Every cop in LA was outside like a swarm of angry bees. They did breech the immediate perimeter, but they couldn't realistically get far from that point anyway.

>>64139746 (OP)
Did they have to chose the most psychotic mannequin to represent them?

>>64140143
Those are like 40s, the bottom quarter is undrinkable.

>>64140226
*Psychotic looking mannequins

>>64140265
all 40s are drinkable if you drink them fast enough

>>64140265
Skill issue

Why are all public images of two guys all about bodybuilding for years from many years earlier before they did bodybuilding as baby faced teenagers?

The only current image is of the guy dying on the ground with his legs full of holes from the swat team. After he was running around in a ski mask with goggles (no air flow) wearing extensive body armor carrying heavy weapons, ammo, and money bags, in the socal sun with adrenaline dumps much earlier expired and was worn down.
You can still see he has a roided out looking excess hgh face and thinned out receding hair and was probably ripped. But all photos are from many years earlier like pre bodybuilding days.
It gives a distorted view of who they were dealing with.

>>64140402
People didn't have social media with all their photos back then, and I doubt they'd make the coroners' public.

>>64139746 (OP)
I have tried to recreate emile's fit but am stumped on the jeans.
I watched too much spike TV on sick days.
It's kinda fucked that Norinco type 56's are collector items and the polish crutch stock is real expensive when you find one

>>64140534
based

>>64140534
Need more feet in the frame

>>64140538
>>64140547
jumpering off this what vest was he wearing, the closest I've found on ebay was a vintage Safariland, but the bib for the groin wasn't split. it had the supposed "heart plate " but it didn't look the same.

>>64140117

They had wives, women always upgrade their spending habits to live paycheck to paycheck well into the tens of millions range.
You are thinking that is plenty for a normal lifetime, yeah but the wives don't spend normaly if they have abnormal quantities of money.

>>64140415
Are you kidding body builders are ultra vain, with so much of life about physique they have tons of photos of themselves. Law enforcement certainly had many of them after raiding their residences.

For some reason law enforcement CHOSE to only show their teenager pictures from many years prior.
Case in point those mannequins look like the size of normal adults and are much smaller than the real deal based on bank images.
These were roided out hulks and the media and police fails to portray that focusing only on their equipment.

>>64140572
It’s easy to forget that women have no concept of money.

>>64140572
Yes, and any polaroids would be physical and private. Those mannequins look like the size of literal mannequins. It's not that hard.

>>64139746 (OP)
>>64140534
I can try to visit the LAPD museum on Wed or Thu and snap pictures for you guys. I've been meaning to go, and the anon wanting a picture of emiles pantaloons gives me enough of a bullshit reason to go.
>Soiface for attention

>>64140534
>>64139746 (OP)
why two jackets anyway?

>>64140637
Or maybe Friday?
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I will try to visit the LAPD museum sometime this week, i'll even bring my A6700 and get good pictures of certain things that need better pics than what my s22 ultra can do.
>check it out, Beretta 92 and a Smith&Wesson revolver in the same pic

>>64139754
This. It's borderline criminal (pun intended) that they were blasting away at basically the entire LAPD and didn't take a single pig to hell with them. They had already made more than enough in '90s dollars to live comfortably forever, but they couldn't help going for bigger and bigger scores.

>>64140226
>two eastern European bank robbing, machine gun wielding, armor clad windbreaker sporting drug sniffers that died in a shootout with the fuzz
What, are you gonna use off the rack mannequins from Old Navy???

>>64139746 (OP)
90s news tele was kino. Especially since everyone got to see it on broadcast and could discuss at school because everybody watched the same thing on all four channels.
>Waco
>Gulf war 1
>North Hollywood
>OJ chase

>>64140674
>>64139754
It’s weird, right? 2000 rounds expended, and the only casualties were the robbers. And they had machineguns in rifle calibers. The cops had pistols and shotguns at first, and needed to borrow rifles from a local gun store to contend with the robbers.

>gun legislation psyop
>set in Hollywood
Almond status: activated

>>64139746 (OP)
retards

>>64140534
Whats the jacket?

>>64142562
>ITS DA JACKETTTTTT

>>64140333
They seriously need to replace the whole shootout exhibit. Most of the guns are in a dark case and are hard to photograph clearly because the case lights don't work half the time. The vehicles used in the shootout are just outside under a metal roof rusting away, and random fags have caved in the bullet-riddled windshield on the getaway car. Some have even sat inside it for youtube videos. Not to mention the mannequins are falling apart due to the weight of the guns and body armor weighing them down. One of them has had a dislocated arm that just hangs down to the floor, and it's been like that for years.

>>64140534
I'm having a hard time finding documents on Emil, but the coroner's 402 file for Larry lists "black Levi's 560 Waist 36" Inside Leg 32 " pants". Apparently, he chose them due to the wide thigh-cut, which allowed him to wear his homemade thigh armor underneath them.
I would guess Emil wore something similar.

>>64140402
>The only current image is of the guy dying on the ground with his legs full of holes from the swat team.
That would be Emil. For what it's worth, pic related is of Larry, from the day of the robbery. Not the best indicator of physique or anything, but still.

>>64140690
Only one was Eastern European. The other was Hispano-mutt

>>64142562
Who the fuck doesn't know what a harrington style jacket is?

You can get them cheap for like 20 bucks, or high quality for 300-400. His does look like a regular 30$ version.

>>64140117
They were making a move. They had to get it on.

>>64140534
Why the hell was he wearing so many layers

>>64143197
Probably to ditch them, and change his appearance
The windbreaker underneath is a black sheep brand that I thought matched the colors I could see

>>64142936
this isnt /fa/ you massive faggot.

>>64142936
well la dee da mr gucci loafers

>>64139746 (OP)
i remember when this happened. i was in grade school, i think 2nd grade, and i was upset the cops let them die

>>64140674
One of the two robbers (the one who refused to get in the escape vehicle while it was still working) just loved violence. He didn't care about the money, he started doing robberies to shoot someone. It's his fault his partner died.

>>64140117
The action is the juice

>>64140139
>John Dillinger
Now that guy was based as fuck.

>>64144414
So was Baby Face Nelson.

>>64144731
So was Two-Tone Malone.

>>64139746 (OP)
>>64144414
>>64144731
>>64145077
WELL SHIT, Bank robbing is based after all
fucking money is insured anyway

>>64145102
You might like researching Jacques Mesrine if you've never heard of him.
Probably the most /k/ino bank robber alongside John Dillinger and Charles Floyd.

>unsung heroes
Who would argue this? Just robbing a bank isn't exactly a deep philosophical quandary of a crime. Pic definitely not related.

>>64140092
Wow! It's like you're almost famous!

>>64139746 (OP)
>Unsung heroes
they were low life criminals are you on drugs?

>>64140092
I was held up in a bank robbery. Had a sawn off shotgun in my face and got pistol whipped with a revolver, broke my jaw and some of my teeth. Just in lodging a paycheck back in the day and did not know they wree behing me in the queue. They cut one of the giels working in there right along the spine with a filleting knife of some kind and put her in a wheelchair.

>>64140674
For me, the action is the juice

Homos.

The rumor is that they had so much unprotected anal sex with each other, that robbing banks was the only way they could pay for the massive amounts of KY jelly they used in each other's buttholes.

I never heard of this, but it's weird they have them immortalized in a museum.
Ok, it's a police museum, so the right context is supplied.
But I wonder, do they have the Rodney King batons?

No driver listening to pig radios
No tactics or plan, all they had to do was assault the ambush

public opinion means nothing, they were operators, they operated operationally.

>>64146120
>operators
>in a shootout for 45 minutes
>land 20 hits

>>64146129
>>64141354
>>64139754
i think they werent ACTUALLY trying to kill anyone, avoiding a 25 to life, so to speak

>>64146212
Location of hits on cops and civilians.
>chest
>neck
>stomach
>face
>chest
It was amazing no one but them died.

>>64140117
Someone's gotta do it. Crime isn't going to commit itself.

>>64146212
As if robbing several banks and firing 1000 rounds at cops full auto, wounding a couple of them, will yield anything less than a life sentence.

>>64146070
> I never heard of this

Well read up on it. There also exists a livestream from the news helicopter. I know it was up on YouTube as recently as ~2 years ago. I searched for it yesterday but could not find it.

This shootout is the reason cops carry AR’s in their squad cars now instead of shotguns.

>>64146382
sure but you are a resonable /k/ommando chilling at your home, not a junkie cokehead duo on a bank robbing spree, maybe it made sense in their heads idk

>>64140572
>these guys
>the sung gym gang in miami
Is bodybuilding a gateway to outrageous crime?

On July 20, 1993, Phillips and Mătăsăreanu robbed an armored car outside a branch of FirstBank in Littleton, Colorado.[15]

Three months later, on October 23, they were initially pulled over by Glendale police when Mătăsăreanu was speeding in a red 1993 Pontiac Firebird.[9] After the traffic stop, Mătăsăreanu lied to the police officer about who owned the vehicle.[16] The subsequent search of their vehicle—after Phillips surrendered with a concealed weapon—found two semi-automatic rifles (a Norinco MAK90 rifle and a Polytech AKS underfolding rifle) two handguns (one Springfield Armory .45 pistol and one Colt .45 pistol), more than 1,600 rounds of 7.62×39mm rifle ammunition, 1,200 rounds of hollow point 9×19mm Parabellum and .45 ACP handgun hollow point ammunition, radio scanners, six smoke bombs, improvised explosive devices, body armor vests, wigs, a stopwatch, a gas mask, and three different California license plates.[17][9][18] Initially charged with conspiracy to commit robbery,[19] due to plea bargaining, it was downgraded to a misdemeanor. Both served 100 days in jail and were placed on three years of probation.[20] After their release, most of their seized property was returned to them, except for the confiscated firearms and explosives.[20][21]

On June 14, 1995, Phillips and Mătăsăreanu ambushed a Brink's armored car in Winnetka, Los Angeles, killing one guard, Herman Cook, and seriously wounding another.[22] In May 1996, they robbed two branches of Bank of America in the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles, stealing approximately US$1.5 million.[21][23] The pair were dubbed the "High Incident Bandits" by investigators due to the weaponry they had used in three robberies prior to their attempt in North Hollywood.[5]

How didn't they know these were the guys jackin' up banks?

>>64146519
its a hangout spot for a lot of testoroned up guys who have disposable time/money and not just the desire, actively pursuing self improvement. lots of deals, business arrangements, events were set off by two dudes walking into a gym at roughly the same time. it just so happens a small percentage of those deals/business arrangments or events involve robbing banks

>>64146600
There's something incredibly comfy about 2 dudes spotting each other on bench while discussing armored car heists. Feels like a 90s thing tho. Now they probably just discuss making instagram vids

>>64146598
Postan some pics of the weapons confiscated at Glendale.

>>64140572
>Case in point those mannequins look like the size of normal adults and are much smaller than the real deal based on bank images.
Case in point, pic related.

>>64146598
>How didn't they know these were the guys jackin' up banks?
Because it was LA in the 90s, robberies were happening every day, I think it was statistically a world record in how many bank robberies they had per day.
The average bank location was getting hit 20 times per year on average.


Also I want to know something, were they killing the money truck guards or what since no mention of the guards is made in any of the shit I read about the truck heists.

>>64141354
They were pretty obviously not trying to kill the police and just suppressing them IMO, it was their critical mistake. Don't get me wrong they would have been killed regardless but they would have been able to at least break initial contact if they'd been more aggressive and willing to drop bodies.

>>64143627
he probably did buy that jacket from a hobo though

>>64147591
Even when I was a kid I agreed with this. That many rifle rounds? It’s not luck no one died.

>>64139746 (OP)
>do something retarded
>now the police have an excuse to be ultra militarized and gun legislation to have credence

Then again if it weren't for these guys it would be Columbine/school shooters that would force American police to become the APC driving guys they are today

>>64146230

You have to remember this was a wealthy advanced mostly white California before widespread decline. With extensive experience treating compton and watts crips and bloods that were shot, and rising latino gangs. LA the highest murder capitol of the USA during the highest murder rate ever. All concentrated in the ghetto.
1993 was the highest murder rate in US history and similar in surrounding years, mostly blacks, and robberies and theft were common. Crack cocaine was dominant. People openly wheeling stolen ACs, atms, and other random stuff down the street on a dolly was an everyday occurance in crackhead neighborhoods.
Gangs wore matching colors, bandanas and essentialy uniforms openly often walking down the streets in groups of 5-20.
Graffiti was so bad in many areas it was not just every wall, but the sidewalks and curbs too.

Hospitals in the area had more experience treating people shot with guns than in literal warzones.
With high budgets, a great economy, limited illegals, the healthcare system wasn't drained and it was probably the best time and place in US history to show up with gunshot wounds and have a good outcome.

Also they clearly were just suppressing.
One staying behind after already receiving multiple penetrating gunshots through their armor may have been an intentional self sacrifice since it was clear both were not getting away with so many cops. "Just go bro, I'm done for anyways."

>>64146508
Everything always makes sense in everyone’s head, just doesn’t map well to reality. A nog’s internal calculus, for example, is perfectly sound when he decides to shoot it out with cops with his optic-less Draco.

>>64147591
>Break initial contact

There’s no way out for them once the cops swarm. They have an advantage over the cops in a gunfight, but if they somehow manage to get away, well, the helicopters were already circling the area and they’d never get away from those.

>>64140658
I just got back from my driving my brother to LAX. We passed up the bank on the way and I told him the story of the shootout. I Sent him the helicopter footage to watch on his flight. Here it is for interested anons:
>https://youtu.be/wZg4mcYkIwU?si=DgI31GFZzuyA5028

>>64140109
My bad, it was a del taco (or is one now)

>>64146652
I’d kill for a friendship like this.

>>64147846
Yeah it was gonna happen no matter what. Probably a consequence of improving weapons technology. The cops would eventually learn the hard way through some shootout or whatever that they need to get with the program and upgrade their gear. Similar thing happened in Miami and IIRC that was the catalyst for switching from revolvers to self loading pistols.

>>64142841
>that hole in his forehead

https://youtu.be/wZg4mcYkIwU?si=DgI31GFZzuyA5028

13:25

>>64146070
>>64146393
Action starts at about 9:15

https://youtu.be/wZg4mcYkIwU?si=mk8uU_vMlAVe51-D

>>64140402
There's a few pictures of Phillips on northhollywoodshootout.net. He was a lot leaner when he died, and also supposedly had diuretics in his system so I guess he was cutting down

>>64139746 (OP)
crank head retards
planning to shootout with zogbots is retarded and their drug haze kept them from evading after getting the cops to runaway at first

>>64146212
im pretty sure shooting a gun in someones direction in the middle of the umptenth robbery youre committing still gives you 40 plus years

>>64148743
>so cal
>mostly white
retard thinks CA is a surf brochure

>>64150040
I think it was pretty clear that he was speaking about SoCal in the past tense. At present, yeah it’s Mexico. Bright side, at least we don’t have too many blacks.

bump, how do you all think building a suit out of 3a with level 4 plates would be viable against modern engagements? the crap they were using was probably lv2 or less

>>64146652
>tfw there's a timeline where youtube and tiktok were never invented so the Tren Twins decided to rob and shoot up a whole foods market

Oh how I wish to have seen it

>>64145685
Did they catch them?

>>64145923
You're not funny. le gay sex jokes are done.