Thread 64144275

After watching several in-depth reviews I cannot identify any advantage the Glock 19 of any generation has over the Ruger RXM. The RXM is just as reliable, better ergonomics and trigger, uses the same magazines, excellent barrel and accuracy, better sights, now comes standard with a threaded barrel... did Glock just fucking die before our eyes?

>>64144275 (OP)
I'll be totally honest. All the striker-fired guns feel and perform about the same. Just choose whichever brand you like, for there's not much difference in any of them.

>>64144275 (OP)
I'm not going to lie I shilled this thing hard in /hg/ but my striker sleeve is broken after close to 1k rounds
I had a very early one though

>>64144304
Mostly true. Comes down to preference, the accessories, magazine availability and cost etc.

>>64144304
There's some truth to that, but Glock magazines are basically the defacto N64 shooter "you found a magazine" magazine and Glocks also have measurably better mechanic accuracy than most of the competition. I've had 12 Glocks and the consistency and reliability cannot be improved on. The only other platform I've ever had any interest in is the Walther PDP because of the trigger. Every other striker fire is just a Glock clone but less accurate and without the torture test history. Sig fags are understanding right now why I've stuck with glock.

>>64144310
You mean the channel liner?

>>64144275 (OP)
Gen 5 is meaningfully better than gen 3, slide/ejector changes are worth it on their own for improved reliability.

>>64144331
HK VP9 is not "less accurate"

Yes

>>64144391
Do you have ransom rest data?

>>64144391
I can keep my shots inside a playing card at 25 yards freehand with a stock G19 and Blazer-tier ammo. That's my standard for a 9mm striker fired pistol. When most people say a handgun is "accurate" they mean they can hit a human silhouette target at 7 yards or something.

>>64144440
Sure but the post stated that (or at least strongly implied) Glocks are the *only* "accurate" striker fired handguns. Which is bullshit.
(also yes obviously, 'accuracy' of any modern handgun and implied comparisons therein is a subjective topic dependent upon myriad conditions and factors)

Glock is still better due to aftermarket support.

Plus newer Glocks got baked in diff back strap sizes.

>>64144275 (OP)
Glock 19 is alive, well, and more reliable than whatever that thing is. In fact, I'm buying one this week!

>>64144466
>Glocks also have measurably better mechanic accuracy than most of the competition

Those were my exact words.

Accuracy is not subjective. Accuracy is as objective as math.

>>64144466
NTA but I think the Glock set the benchmark and clones can only at best meet it. User/brand preference is subjective and there's nothing wrong with a Glock clone unless it's a dagger, but saying anything is better than a Glock is disingenuous. A gun is supposed to make bullets come out reliably and accurately, Glock does this at a massive scale and any clone will never have had the decades of Glockness Glocks have.

You can argue they're soulless and boring but that's an opinion not relevant to the fact they're fucking everywhere and since everyone is copying them it must mean they are considered a standard. Brand wise I guess there are a lot of people who get tattoos and bumper stickers but they are compensating for the lack of interesting aspects about their life. Glock doesn't do gay sig things, their guns are affordable and available so whatever.

>>64144489
There's something magical about going to the gun store and just asking for exactly what you need without fuss, getting it for a reasonable cost and then taking it to the range where it does exactly what you want it to do. Enjoy your Glock dude

Can I still modify it for a manual safety?

>>64144275 (OP)
The thing about the Glock 19 is it will go 100,000 rounds no problem.
Springs and extractor wear out and need replaced, everything else should last forever.
The RXM has a better warranty, at least.

>>64144530
How many people shoot 100k rounds in their lifetime?

>>64144548
Do you want a gun that can do that, or do you want a gun that can't do that?

>>64144548
The cope begins
You will never be a real Glock

>>64144275 (OP)
The difference is the G19 has decades of service with LEO/Mil/SF. After the sig 320 disaster a reliable service record means everything

>>64144391
HK hasn’t made a relevant pistol since the 90s

>>64144331
>Glocks also have measurably better mechanic accuracy than most of the competition
No they fucking don't.

>>64144814
Just keep malding and dilating (You)'ll get there

>>64144530
This isn't true, at least not in practice. Glocks still need components changed at regular intervals, and actual gen 3s or earlier that have been in service that long will start to rail degradation. Go brows some Glock forums from back in the day. You'll see lots of users report all kinds of flaws that start to pop up when you get into these absurd round counts.

>>64144922
No one cares about this gun. Even John Wick dropped it for a Glock

>>64145709
NTA, but John Wick used the HK P30, not the HK 45. Additionally, he dropped the Glock for a 1911 and then a 2011. LOL

>>64145768
glock niggers always have to self insert into everywhere lest anyone forgets they wasted extra hundreds of dollars on a shitty overpriced nigger gun

>>64144809
This, track is worth more than any minor improvement this might have over an actual Glock

>>64144875
they do, seethe

>>64145801
kek

>>64144440
>can keep my shots inside a playing card at 25 yards freehand with a stock G19 and Blazer-tier ammo.
Try that with a pie plate at 100 yards, not impressed.

>>64144275 (OP)
>HAHAHA GLOCK PERFECTION
>everyone starts making better looking and better functioning plastic striker-fired pistols
>NOOOOOOO GLOCK PERFECTION GLOCK PERFECTION THERE MUST BE MORE COPS WE CAN SELL THEM TO PLEASE GASTON COME BACK NOOOOOOOOOO

>>64144809
But it's literally a Glock clone

>>64144875
Look up any ransom rest test where Glocks are compared to other striker 9mms.

>>64145838
they don't, literally every pistol on the market has as good or better accuracy than a glock, and that's before accounting for the shitty triggers glocks have

the only competitions featuring glocks are the ones where they pay you money to use it over much better guns

Even if they did, the true mechanical accuracy of any barrel in any gun is so far beyond the competency of any shooter that it doesn't matter.

>>64145984
There more to a gun that the general design, Glock has pretty solid QC and the materials they use are rock solid, we don't know if the manufacturing process of the clones is justasgood™, but I know the PSA Daggers can be spotty and I've seen them do weird shit like double up on a single trigger pull

>>64146086
Name brand Glonk can do that too. Was actually kind of a problem for a while in the 90s.

>>64145984
Convergent evolution. Make me a pistol that is black, plastic, compact, striker-fired, with a squishy double trigger, using the browning tilting barrel system, but doesn't vaguely resemble glock's pistol.

It's just an L with some serrations on it and grip textures that vary from pistol to pistol. There isn't much Ruger or any of these companies can really do but paint the grip a different color. You can't blame them. Pistols have been externally simplified to death

>>64146095
Exactly, and that's the good thing with Glock brand Glocks, they have been making them since the 80s and have worked out the quirks, that's why they don't go surprise machine gun since the 90s while the clones do it in 2025

>>64146098
I just got here man, I'm here to tell you that unless you are doing legitimate sniping beyond the range of human vision, the mechanical accuracy of your barrel is a pointless flex. The skill of the shooter is the real limiting factor.

>>64146102
No, it's literally a Glock clone, can use Glock internals, like all the other harbor freight Glocks that have come to market since the Gen 3 patent expired

>>64146104
No, they still do it. Unc who hasn't cleaned his gat in a year is very likely to do doubles or triples.

>>64146110
Because glock parts are fucking cheap and companies (and consumers) are lazy

>>64146112
They are manufacturing their own parts, the only cost they are really skipping is the R&D into a new design, I would rather take a clone with Glock internals than PSA ones

>9mm for defensive use
>glocks considered reliable
LMAO. 9mm is for range toys. Glocks jam on video every day when they are used in shootings.

>>64145876
who are you yelling at?

>>64144275 (OP)
I would definitely consider one if they didn't sell the default configuration in that gay-ass goycum gray non-color. Who the fuck looked at that frame and said, "Yeah, this is the BEST default color option we can come up with."

It's a fine gun, but I'm concerned about pmags being the OEM magazine for it. I understand that some RXMs will lock open on a Glock mag with rounds in it, but that's due to a different spec slide release, which goes to show it is not exactly a Glock clone. I don't believe they have the longevity and durability of a Glock mag but it also hasn't been field tested.

>>64146564
It's Magpul gray dude.

>>64146628
You can literally adjust the follower yourself. This is such a non issue.

>>64144275 (OP)
Glock's quality control will always be better than Ruger's.

>>64146529
>9mm for defensive use
That’s a special level of gun-store fantasy. The 9mm cartridge is literally the global standard
>glocks considered reliable
Glock pistols have a decades-long record of service across the globe, They have passed some of the harshest torture tests ever documented: firing after being frozen in blocks of ice, buried in mud, or run over by vehicles. In trials, Glocks have gone tens of thousands of rounds without a single malfunction. Even in the MHS program it was documented that it performed better that any other handgun in the trials. Bringing up some YouTube clip of a poorly maintained Glock might ‘jam on video,’ the actual record speaks for itself: Glock has become the benchmark for combat-reliable sidearms for over 30 years. Dismissing it as unreliable is like dismissing the AK-47 as fragile

>>64146628
>It's Magpul gray dude.
Yes, and it's ugly. It's also the objectively least purchased furniture configuration due to how ugly the color is. No one likes it. I'd take black, tan, or OD over that shit any day. Boggles my mind that's the color they chose to release first.

>>64146695
>caliberlet cope
>don't believe your eyes
Eat shit. Millions of flies can't be wrong.

>>64144275 (OP)
Doesn't matter
Glocks have complete aftermarket supremacy and named brand recognition dominance in the striker fired handgun world
You can make a polymer striker fired gun with as many incremental improvements over the stock Glock as you want but it will never unseat what Glock has already built for themselves
A Glock clone cannot kill the glock

>>64146761
I bet you think Colt makes the best 1911s too.

>>64146761
Man, you have got to back off the kool aid

>>64146721
Makes sense to me. Magpul obviously wants it to be instantly recognizable in their color, showing they fully support this gun and went all in on it. Plus it gets people to buy more frames if they don't like the color.
I don't love it, I don't hate it but I get it.

>>64146761
the whole reason for glock's standing as a company and their followers as completely brainwashed zombies slopping up any shit glock pushes onto them is the extreme upcharge and profit margin on the otherwise incredibly crude and basic handgun designed around being cheap which frees up funds for bribing and undercutting police contracts as well as shill campaigns.

all this falls flat once the lie has been exposed and nobody wants your glock branded plastic sights at $200 upcharge when they can get the same exact gun with substantial improvements pre-installed for way less.

>>64144548
you're never going to get dangerously elevated lead levels and die of liver failure with that attitude young man.

>>64146721
I think it's unique

>>64146835
Gaston won, the Glock 19 gen 3 is now the most cloned handgun in the world, you can find a Glock in any country, if Glock doesn't sell them guns, they will make their own, it has become "the" handgun, wherever there is a conflict there is a Glock, nobody makes guns like Gaston

This is the 1911 the true champ made by many companies. The 1911 has also been made into many off shoot guns like steel dual stack pistols and the 2011desing.

>>64146648
I thought it was a feed lips issue. The Glock feed lips aren't flush with the top of the frame, push up and stop the slide

>>64144275 (OP)
if u dont already have a g19 then maybe its worth looking at but probably not

>>64147037
This thing actually wins wars. How has everyone forgotten glockleg already? So many boomers have to rely on a cane thanks to Gluck

>>64146987
>nobody makes guns like Gaston
you contradict yourself shill, everyone makes guns like gaston because going any lower means you get a hipoint

>>64146695
i know someone who buried his glock in dirt for 2 years. He pulled it out, rinsed it off, had like 30 people put mags through it and it performed flawlessly

>>64145984
You mean a Glock knockoff. If you’ve ever shopped temu you’d know there’s a big difference

>>64146128
I'd say that making it one big FCU is a total redesign

>>64147070
I imagine most guns would.

>>64147225

Fuck meant for >>64146110

>>64147208
is it a knockoff if it's higher quality and better than the original?

>>64146529
Dude like all pistol cartridges perform about the same

>>64147067
Seethe, companies no longer try to design new handguns, the just make gen 3 Glocks, all parts are compatible, the Glock has transcended to a new level, it has joined the 1911, AR-15 an AK in the "Platform" territory

>>64145997
Glocks come out on top in every mechanical accuracy test. I can do almost 1" groups at 25 yards with every Glock I own using Hornady custom 147 grain.

>>64147247
I know right? Switch the military to .22LR so we can save on ammo costs.

>>64147370
>Seethe, companies no longer try to design new handguns, the just make gen 3 Glocks
Obviously false.

>>64147370
You mean also like the beretta 92 and the p226? Wow, it finally caught up

>>64147061
It's called neglockt. Unlike the SIG, the Glock really won't go off unless the trigger is pulled, so it's almost always a case of trying to register a gun and the trigger getting caught on fabric.
You can avoid getting a bullet in your leg by following this one simple step:
Don't be fucking retarded.

>>64147417
nigga forgot the entire reason PDs had to stop using leather holsters. Glock's trigger dingus did little to nothing to stop them from getting pinched and blasting

>>64147370
they don't try to design new bottom of the bargain bin $300 handguns, which is all a glock actually is

>>64147433
The GX2 is actually a new design, lol.

>>64147417
>Don't be fucking retarded.
aka don't buy a glock

>>64147400
Nobody other than SIG is making 226s, the Norincos and Zastabas are long gone

>>64147417
>so it's almost always a case of trying to register a gun and the trigger getting caught on fabric.
funny how the only time in existence glocksuckers point this out is when trying to shift the blame onto some unfortunate sob that got talked into overpaying for "the safest, most reliable and accurate" pistol and never ever prior to the accident.

>>64147417
Glock has the same issue as the 320.

>>64147444
You can still get Zastavas wtf are you on about?

>>64147370
So like CZ and the BHP?

>>64144275 (OP)
It's a gen 3 copy, with gen 3 Glocks your thumb can't reach the mag release without breaking your grip. Also it's made of stainless steel which is too soft and beats itself to death. This is why PSA AKs suck too, the steel is too soft. They refuse to use high carbon steel like guns are supposed to be made of and use fucking stainless, shit those cheap Chinese pocket knives and spoons are made of.

>>64147444
arex or something is around too, no?

>>64147493
Wait it's not even a PSA...

Ruger is generally shit too, they'll release an updated model next year and you'll want that one. Watch.

>>64147494
the arex zero has enough parts that are different that you can't consider it a true clone. The big thing is the decocker, since it also serves as the slide catch so that it can also have a manual safety that drops the trigger bar out of the way

>>64147496
>>64147493
The RXM has been getting generally stellar reviews on ruggedness and reliability. The consensus is it's genuinely Just As Good

>>64147377
Well they kinda did with .223 hehe. But nah .22 sucks and is kinda unique. But as for the mainline pistol rounds like 9mm, .380, .40 and .45, they don’t perform that different for it to really matter. A 9mm is just as effective as the others are at putting someone down at close range

>>64147521
Switch to .32 ACP for reduced recoil.

>>64145989
Theanti-Glock contrarians must find any reason as to why x gun is better. So glad I bought a gen 5 g19 to make them seethe.

>>64147528
Bro if you got a gun to mentally hatefuck another guy, you might have issues

>>64144275 (OP)
CZ P10C you jabbering nincompoop. Quite literally also "Glock 19 but better"

>>64147515
>The shill mills assure me that this new product is genuinely justasgood and we definitely don't need to see years of real world data points before buying them
>New gen 3/4 Glock price is only 100-150 more than the RXM
Call me back in a decade if they have widespread institutional use with positive results. Until then this purchasing decision would be peak midwit, the slight price difference is meaningless relative to the peace of mind and much larger body of data you get from going name brand

>>64147528
glock gets another bitches with more money than brains' wallet while we get an easy tell who the biggest gullible dunce around is, everybody wins.

you should buy a glock 44 next time to own the haters too

>>64147553
try saying this without crying over that glock rollmark being more worthless than it's ever been now.

>>64147553
The midwit decision is saying you need decades of data points for your range blaster you larping faggot.

>>64147526
If there were more than 500 of these in the world, I would.

>>64147553
Nigga what is the "decades of real world data points" gonna say about it? If people burn thousands of rounds through it, beat it to shit, then do it again and it's still ok it's probably good for 99% of all applications. What is your edge case where that's not ok?

>>64147521
Your statements were proven false over 100 years ago during the development of the 1911.

>>64146529
>Glocks jam on video every day when they are used in shootings.
This is true, Glocks are good for thousands of rounds at the range but as soon as you need it to work it betrays you because you didn't have perfect form while fighting for your life

i have a vp9, xd, and a g19, and the one i carry daily is the glock. i don't like the grip safety of the xd and while the vp9 has a better trigger, it was so expensive that i don't wanna lose it to some dumbass LEO if i have to use it. the glock is like a honda civic or a toyota camry. it'll do everything you need it to do reliably, and economically. it's not pretty, but it's good enough. and in the use cases i encounter, good enough is perfection.

>>64147614
>implying that modern 9mm loadings aren't superior to .45acp ball ammo.

>>64147637
>the glock is like a honda civic or a toyota camry. it'll do everything you need it to do reliably, and economically.
and now toyota doesn't cost like a ford anymore.

>>64147646
That's right your "modern loadings" aren't even better than 100 year old 45 ball. You probably pay extra for gel specials that can't even penetrate real bone. Meanwhile 45 ball worked just fine in multiple wars.

>>64147637
shit, dude, you may as well carry a G3c then.

>>64147531
No I bought it because I wanted a Glock, and as a bonus I get to mind fuck them forever.

>>64147710
Gay

>>64146128
the thread is about the Ruger/Magpull Gen 3 Glock clone iirc

>>64148021
My apologies, I would rather take a clone with Glock internals than Ruger ones

>>64147493
Stainless steel is harder and more wear resistant than carbon in almost all cases.

>>64147377
>>64147521

Poking small holes in someone's lung tissue is not a good way to instantly incapacitate a human. Even a .45 caliber whole is very small, that's not even half an inch. Handgun design should focus more on giving the user the highest probability of landing a critical hit rather than terminal performance. That means high capacity, low-recoil, and good penetration. Terminal performance matters more in hunting, where your goal is to do as much damage in one shot as possible against a long-range target so that you can actually find the body in a reasonable time frame. 22LR would be a perfectly adequate defensive pistol cartridge if it fed reliably.

>>64148052
that's because you're a faggot who doesn't understand the genius of Bill Ruger's ability to cast literally everything

>>64144922
I like the HK45 well enough, but I just don't see a world where I'd want a gun that is larger than the USP 45 in every dimension but still manages to carry two fewer rounds.

>>64148584
To shoot 45 super

>>64144275 (OP)
I prefer it to a g19. The grip alone is worth it, everything else is a cherry on top.

>>64144949
We have several examples of HKs and Glocks that have six figure round counts and are on their x'th recoil spring, 5th extractor, second, third set of springs, OG barrel, etc.

>>64145875
Try with a sheet pan at 200, not impressed

>>64148584
>>64148646
The HK 45 is lighter weight and has a longer barrel. (And is 0.2 inches "longer" OAL, 0.3 inches taller)
Plebbitard seethemald doesn't work here

>>64149102
Nice try

>>64149150
>HK 45 is lighter weight
It's literally not.

>>64147617
It's because the Glock is camera shy and doesn't perform when people are watching. Kinda like me at the urinal, I can piss like a fire hose but god help me if someone comes in and bumps me on the shoulder whipping out his cock at the other urinal

>>64149610
Searching Glawk Compilations is always a treat

What was the latest, most modern Glock again?

>>64150006
Glock 46
the only one ever heard of, that I actually want
rotating barrel

and in a step beyond even HK-tier own-consumer-base humiliation, won't sell it to 'civilians'

>>64149150
Even if what you're saying is true. Why would someone want a gun that's the same size but carries less ammo?

>>64150378
>"carries less ammo"
>"carries"
Because people like (You) will always defer to the pistol that has the extra +1 or +2 mag capacity no matter any other factor, because every other characteristic Direction-Brain thus must be ignored/discarded
HK 45 is a better product improved more advanced modernized USP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POr5rJ
7NL14
(idgaf about this blogger never seen-heard of him before or know who he is, but this review is excellent, synopsis @5:50 history/engineering of the pistol)

>>64150378
>>64150430

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POr5rJ7NL14
(idgaf about this blogger never seen-heard of him before or know who he is, but this review is excellent, synopsis @5:50 history/engineering of the pistol)

>>64144275 (OP)
The Ruger hasn’t been out for 3-4 decades.

I just don’t get how the poorest and dumbest people in America always have something to say. Just pause for a few fuckin minutes and consider the answers to your questions. I love Ruger, I ain’t buying an RXM when I can spend and extra measly fuckin hundred bucks and get a Glock.

>>64147528
Glocks are an example of the boring, popular choice actually being really good. This FACT drives 4chan contrarian hipsters insane. They would be better off just saying something like "I don't like Glocks because I think they're boring" instead of creating elaborate copes to explain why their favorite brand is better in practical terms.

>>64144275 (OP)
Does it take any ole gen 3 slide? Can i throw a g23 slide on this bad boy and shoot .40? Looks like 2 pin instead of 3, but its also a different frame design so would it handle fawty?

>>64151952
The grip angle of a glock sucks. It will always suck, and the only time it doesn't suck is when you cut off the retarded hump on the back.

>>64151952
>>64151981
>grip angle
100% this.

>>64151952
>basedbooru
>glock shill
it all makes sense now. truly a nigger gun.

>>64150006
Probably the Glock 47 which just simplifies production strains and technically makes Glocks more modular. If you have a 19 then you can swap the slides and you've got 4 guns technically. We are on like gen 5.75 rn, I'm sure gen 6 will have an FCU if the patents are to be believed. That being said Glock may push that back if they start getting big contacts to replace the P320 which seems to be happening anyways since they've stopped selling COA models to civilians likely due to military/LEO demand

Ruger is about as exciting as taking a dump at McDonald's

>>64152209
:( i kinda like my ruger 57

>>64151781
This doesn't make any sense. Someone always has to adopt something first to see how it goes.

>>64151952
>contrarian
Is it contrarian to like strawberry flavor more than vanilla? Nobody in their right mind would say that. Which handgun you prefer is such a personal thing, I don't know why you autists think that everyone is the same

>>64150430
When the guns are the same size. I'll pick the one with the better trigger, tougher recoil spring assembly, more time proven design, more moddable, and more capacity having system. Also, I can slap on basepads on the USP and go to 17 or more. Can the HK45 do that? But hey, at least the hand ergos are slightly better and I can attach a WML without an adapter.

>>64154317

Here is a detailed James Williamson vid explaining (first 30 mins) USP 9/40/45-->Mk 23-->USP 45 Tactical-->P2000-->HK 45, with all the development, military procurement/specification, differences in frame/slides, recoil springs, internals for each of the pistols:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkwjbQo16ZE

>>64148584
Get the Compact Tactical.

>>64148584
>>64155190
He needs to view the James Williamson video above (You)r post.

>>64149579
>'literally'
and (You)'re wrong.

>USP 45 ------34.8 oz
>HK 45 --------31.2 oz
and see (thorough video >>64155158
detail-examining USP / Mk 23 / P2000 / HK 45)

Not really, but I like magpul plastics. It makes perfect sense to have magpul make a polymer pistol lower.

>>64144275 (OP)
>Gen 3 g19 but modded from the factory and $200 cheaper
Sounds based to me

>>64151975
yeah

>>64152213
it's the second worst out of the 5.7 handguns
the PSA Rock is the best, I have a Ruger and the PSA and have the rest except for the new Turkish one

Trench Grenade did a 5,000-round test on a SIG P320, expecting it to fail, and it passed with flying colors. Meanwhile, he performed the same test with a Glock and had over 20 failures and multiple other issues (the sights fell off twice).

Next time a Glock fanboy speaks up, remind them that the S&W M&P and the Walther PDP mog it in every way.

>>64158681
Per HK's own site, The USP 45 is 1.82 pounds, or 29.12 ounces, to the HK45's 31.2 ounces.

And to my original point, I've already said that I *like* the HK45, but that I'd never choose it over a USP.

>>64147376
Mat we see these tests?

>>64144530
Berettas too, just ask Stoeger. Maybe USPs or Mark 23s for far longer

>>64159451
>Per muh hurr durr
Post the data here rn
retard + Watch the James Williamson video 2024 upthread (where he visually demonstrates and spoken-word states that the HK 45 is lighter in weight than the USP 45). Obviously, to any retard, the USP is heavier due to its slide and bulk in polymer frame.

>>64159420
>(some fag) did (some gay test) where (jew CEO pistol) is better
wow!
amazing!
still buying Glocks

Handguns suck. Get a rifle

>>64159601
Dude shoots a gun 5,000 times.
>"Wow what a gay test."
I guess you can buy any piece of crap if it's never getting used.

>>64159669
guntube tests are such larps, and marketed to larpers that watch zombie tv shows. The only "reliable" firearm stress limit tests are the factory military trials, preferably the ones that also include not just mud but also extreme climates like arctic subzero.

>>64144275 (OP)
>Makes yet another Notglock in a long line of "glock killing notglocks"

truly they've done it this time…

>>64159601
>(some fag) did (some gay test) where (jew CEO pistol) is better
but enough about glock's fake reputation

glock gay

VP9 is better.

>>64144340
Whatever the black plastic piece is on the back of the striker assembly. The striker lug notches into it

>>64159833
>The only "reliable" firearm stress limit tests are the factory military trials
You mean, like the ones where a Glock lost to the P320 recently, or the one where a Glock lost to the Beretta 92 and SIG P226?

>>64144275 (OP)
No, it's worse. Just buy a glock poorfag

>>64162683
No, only the ones involving HK handguns.

>>64146529
>Glocks jam on video every day when they are used in shootings.
That probably has a lot to do with Basketball-Americans and the quality of their maintenance and good shooting posture. You get a Glock that's never been clean and a 14 year-old limp-wristing it, plus an Aliexpress fun switch, and you've got a perfect storm for a Glock jamming.

>>64162998
No, Glocks are just jamomatics

>>64162998
Jam when used by nogs, jam when used by cops, jam in military trials, etc.

They just jam. LOL

>>64146761
>Pay $500+ for a glock
>pay $700+ to try and make it almost as good as a springfield

>>64146564
I like it, but it isn't a proper gray. It's arguably blue/hybrid.

>>64163003
Post wrist.

>>64163052
Asphalt heather

>>64162998
>That probably has a lot to do with Basketball-Americans
aka the target glock demographics

>>64162770
>yes daddy gaston, here's the fee for fucking my wife, thank you very much

>>64163276
Gaston died in 2023 sigger