Thread 64147144

Keltec has the potential to be redeemed, and their reputation restored, or will they continue to be the endless laughingstock?

>>64147144 (OP)
I like their strange, cheap guns

>>64147147
It is not strange, it is "innovative".

>>64147144 (OP)
>laughingstock
People appreciate that they do weird stuff and their reputation is fine as far as it goes for being a producer of odd consumer goods. Idk exactly what else you want from them.

>>64147147
I like my women the same way

>>64147144 (OP)
Is the p17 any good?

>>64147162
I believe their preferred term is "far out man"

>>64147163
You know their designs are a joke to appeal to COD players, a literal meme company.
This literal fag anon rekt himself with their gay ass shotgun.

>>64147144 (OP)
Their ideas are great but their execution is crude and their quality control is laughable.

>>64147144 (OP)
The KSG 410 is absolutely one of the best guns on the market for what it offers for $400. And the P50/R50 with the Stuff and Things conversion is another incredible value.

Most Kel-Tecs just need to be disassembled, cleaned, lubed, and have some blue loctite applied on the bolts. They all trigger my guntism very hard for some reason, so I don't mind the tinkering.

Isn't the P15 still waiting on a solution for red dots?

https://www.atlantarifleworks.com/products/handguns-kel-tec-p17blk-640832007909-7175
>$185.99
where else can you get a reliable .22lr pistol new for under $200? i think the taurus tx22 is a better gun for just a bit more money but the p17 is fantastic and is one of the most lightweight guns around. slide is nothing to move and holds 16 rounds comes with 3 mags and a threaded barrel? why would anyone dunk on keltec for this?

>>64147144 (OP)
George Kelgren owns all of his factories and equipment 100% and refuses to use debt. Part of the reason their weapons are so affordable is because the brand isn't kike'd to Hell.

>>64147194
At least he put a tarp up first

>>64147194
1. That was his dad's gun.
2. He wasn't even that gay, just an insecure muslim teenager who got blackmailed by discord troons into forced feminization and sending them (underage) nudes and cross dressing pics
In the end he didn't see any other way out. I honestly just feel sorry for him. His story should be a cautionary tale to young teens on the web about being careful who you hang out with, and to NEVER share personal details.
But since the villains of the story was a literal troon discord grooming gang, the story just got buried.

>>64147144 (OP)
Kel-Tec is based and that Swedish designer is more American than Bill Ruger.

>>64147597
The Fudd fears the Nordic Florida man.

>>64147144 (OP)
No, they're so based they became stupid and thereby based again, based squared.
This is 101 shit anon.

No, they're so based they became stupid and thereby based again, based squared.
This is 101 shit anon.

>>64147144 (OP)
>kektec

>>64147147
>>64147162
>>64147170
these, leave them alone OP they are doing just fine

when the fuck are they going to make a 32acp carbine that takes p32 mags (with mag well options for pp/cheetah mags)

>>64147144 (OP)
I'm a Keltec cultist because I like the feeling of my gen 2 Sub2k. I also like that it takes Glock mags. Only issues I've had were the trashy charging handle that I swapped out and the P17 being a plastic turd.

>>64148582
>kelkek

>>64147214
PSA has it for $300 right now

>>64149473
when 32 acp becomes more than a meme round they keep around so all the people who own guns chambered in it have something to fire. Why would you make new ones? 32 acp is several times the price of 9mm.

>>64147144 (OP)
Keltec is based.
>>64147194
That dead fag has fired more guns that you.

>>64149917
Why you lie?

>>64149949
>out of stock
Looks like you missed it, sign up for their emails. They had it for $299

>>64147248
What is fucked up they still leaked his stuff after he an hero'd. Another important lesson is to know that if you are being blackmailed or ransomed to never give into the demands of the criminal. They always will release what they have on you. I see it all the time when hospitals get ransomware and the perps are threatening to release the info unless they get [x] dollar amount, guess what? They always release the info even if the company pays up. But like you said I feel bad for that poor kid.

Hating Keltec is eye roll territory at this point. All of the jokes about them being high on crack when they design stuff is one thing, but if you think they deliver a genuinely bad value for the money, you're fucking stupid. It's like hating on Hi-Point because you think your gucci 2011 race gun is better. No shit it's better retard, you're not the market they're targeting.

>>64149473
why would you want a carbine in 32acp? you're going to get negligible performance improvement out of that increased barrel length

>>64149978
Fugg. I hate notifications but that was a good deal.

>>64149917
Hate that I missed it, that was an insane price. I think either guns.com or Grabagun has it for ~375 plus free shipping and $25 off for first time purchase so it should only be about $30-35 more than PSA cuz shipping charges.

>>64150038
I don't hate them for what they are but they still cost more than they're worth. Their guns pop up with issues that paying a little more for something reliable is preferable.
I've seen my friend's ksg foreend crack on the first range trip, then totally seize up on the second trip. My dad bought a P17, but multiple jams made him trade in for a TX22(the best 22 pistol). That said, I still want an RDB

>>64147170
Black and covered in waffles?

>>64147234
He's been burned before, and is doing everything in his power to make sure the last time is the last time.

>>64152189
Mossberg is good if you want a trench gun but can't find an 1897.

>>64147144 (OP)
wait, did they put the optic mount of the only reciprocating part of the gun?
fucking why?

>>64147144 (OP)
i bought a pf9 and it's been pretty trash. they replaced the slide because it started to crack and it has always had extraction issues.

Webm?

>>64147144 (OP)
If keltec just took their legacy designs and made them with materials actually worth a damn, they'd be great

Keltec are based. They’re weird but they’re trying. Everyone else is just doing the same shit over and over again. At some point they’re going to rattle something that will actually change the game a bit and when they do it will be cheap and accessible to the masses. It’s the lords work.

>>64155696
This. I dont mind polymer but even their barrels are subpar. I respect the designs but wish they were higher quality. Id pay but maybe they figure they move more guns with them being as cheap as they can. Unfortunately Im not going to make room for low quality “fun” guns in my safe.

>>64147144 (OP)
Keltec is Keltec and we love them for it.
Any problem you have with Keltec is on you OP, not them.
As always, OP is a bundle of sticks.
Garbage thread.
11 herbs and spices.

>>64147144 (OP)
I want a Kel-Tec polymer Luger. How to supply more cocaine to Kel-Tec engineers, so that this happens?

At firrst, keltec was a laughing stock, but now it feels like they are the only compqny doing something else than AR or AK

>>64152956
I've had the same old pf9 for years and shot the shit out of it. Never had any problems.

>>64147144 (OP)
You type like a jeet. Fuck you for questioning the coke king

>>64155699
The P32 unironically was a pivotal moment in deep carry guns.

>>64156135
>deep carry
i open carry mine in a fobus holster when i RSO

>>64150053
NTA, but I want a cheap, modern, .32 ACP carbine. Why? So I can mod it to shoot picrel instead of Bubbaing a Tirmax.

Why doesn't Kel-Tec offer a .50AE handgun?

>>64155889
lmao can you imagine how many they would sell
of course they'd do some shit like putting it in 30 super carry

GUYS YOU GOTTA DO A POLYMER LUGER

>>64156135
I'd like to see kelgren go even further and make a .25
True, deminishing returns for a sharp decrease in ballistics but I just want to see it.
Also the market for new .25s is basically non existent, with only large for the caliber guns and that one overpriced vest pocket clone remaining

>>64155696
I wonder if it's beyond their capabilities to improve their designs and come out with mk 2s.
From what I understand, their machine shop is not a big or capable as other companies, which explains why everything is bolted together and polymer/sheet metal.

>>64147144 (OP)
If they stop using pot metal and have some quality control, they could be good.
But theyre too busy being the quirky nerd girl of the club, and no one really wants to hang out with them.

No, I'm not drunk :DDDD

A SKS shotgun
Imagine, a 10 round semiauto shotgun with internal mag and it's fed with 12 gauge stripper clips. With polymer parts. Polymer stripper clips. AND a folding bayonet.

All royalties (free funs) can be addressed to me.

>>64156463
If they did that most of /k/ couldn't afford them.

>>64147144 (OP)
Lel-Kek are literally fine, they just maybe are slightly cheaper than they should be at times.

>>64147214
>Most Kel-Tecs just need to be disassembled, cleaned, lubed, and have some blue loctite applied on the bolts.
Basically.

>>64147597
Bill was a fudd, but did still do cool shit, like the Deerslayer.

>>64156463
Where are they using pot metal? I've seen this charge a few times but haven't seen anything backing it up.

>>64156393
dual stacked luger or c-96 in .30 supercarry

>>64156308
I can't even imagine what a pain in the ass it would be to neck down that tiny case, there would be huge variations in neck thickness across brass brands. Even reloading regular 32 acp it feels like I'm going to squish the cases. I bet getting a tiny press just for this caliber would help though.

Keltec is too hot or miss for me to consider ever buying anything from them. I mean Christ do you guys remember the PR57?

>>64156411
id really like a .25 acp pistol from them. lol switch it up and make it a full size .25acp

>>64156959
People don't actually know what words mean and just say shit. You will see people say that Ruger make guns out of "pig iron" because they don't actually know what investment casting is, or really anything at all about metallurgy.

>>64157089
Fuck look at the people who just throw around the word mim like candy

>>64157058
Is it even out yet?

>>64147144 (OP)
They make weird ass jank and manage to stay in buisness. I respect it.

>>64147147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19yUROJ91I8&list=RD19yUROJ91I8&start_radio=1
Will never be meta but keltec is needed

>>64156980
>dual
*quad

how come its ok for keltec to beta test their guns on their consumers?

>>64147144 (OP)
Celtic will always be really cool for at least trying weird innovative ideas instead of putting out the same generic proven slop. Half the time it actually ends up being a successful and good concept like the ksg, sub2k ect. And the other half it’s complete garbage, but at least it’s all new and different

>>64158673
*keltec lol, phoneposting

>>64158673
>Celtic
>is actually a Swedish guy
what did Kellgren mean by this

>>64151922
TX22 seems super popular but I just hate how it looks like a generic polymer handgun.

>>64158366
They don't though, seething sigger.

>>64158673
Kel-Tec might as well be the sole innovator in the US firearms industry. They popularised .380 pistols with the P3AT, came up with the first bullpups with non-shit triggers and ambidextrous ejection (RDB and RFB), bullpup lightweight shotguns, Kellgren innovated before this with the TEC-9, etc.
All of their guns are imperfect which is to be expected considering they are first generation. Once the industry realizes how viable and successful their concepts are, they start producing better second gen guns and drive them out of the market (P3AT, SUB2K, kinda with the STINC P50). Because of the nature of their company, they can't cultivate a reputation of reliability, so they make up for it with affordability, causing a feedback loop.

Kel-Tec basically exists as a way for Kellgren to popularize his ideas and fund his prototyping. Imagine what he could do if he wasn't restricted by shitty laws and the whims of retarded consumers. (hint: Interdynamics MKR)

>>64155889
In 5.7

>>64160175
>reflexive feels reply

>>64147144 (OP)
I hope kel-tec makes something weird in .30 pooper carry

>>64158366
That's most gun manufacturers with a lifetime warranty lmao.
I'll take the tradeoff desu, especially with companies that make actually interesting and innovative shit like lelkek

They make the best pocket pistol on the market. They’re doing just fine.

>>64161733
based

>>64161733
It could use a little bit of revision. A little more attention to the details of this legend and we good again for a couple of decades

>>64161733
God .32 and .25 being semi rimmed is such bullshit.
Imagine the compact hi cap kino we're being denied.

>>64163694
I'd really like to see the P32 rejiggered for .30SC.

>>64147144 (OP)
KekTec is fine. They are themselves and refuse to follow others. Sure, their product is janky at times, but at least it's not another Glawk clone.
Innovation is rare in this industry, and they do it.

>>64156959
>>64157089
Pot metal is just low quality steel, retards. Jesus.

>>64164042
Itd have to be beefed up a lot

>>64164042
>>64164870
Some beefing up, but it would either need to be redesigned for a short-recoil action or a delayed action. Short-recoil would probably be better because it would make for a less stiff sliderack.

>>64164392
Potmetal isn't a scientific term, but calling Kel-Tec's guns potmetal is simply ridiculous and unfair. They certainly aren't deluxe or anything, but they also aren't like some old piece of shit Röhm or Jennings

>>64165078
P32 is actually an itty bitty short recoil like the P3AT. Scaling and beefing it up would essentially just result in another kel tec pistol

>>64166163
Huh, I always just assumed that it was a blowback gun like all other .32s, that's pretty cool.

>>64147144 (OP)
They must release the .308 RDB...

ok hear me out...a p50, but in 22 short, imagine how many angry bees you could stuff in that thing

>>64157027
Neck reamers exist, anon.

>>64152435
No it's a blow forward design, the optics mount stays completely still

>>64147144 (OP)
Kel-Tec can make some of the most creative and oddball shit I've ever seen, answering questions I've never heard anyone ask, and making the designs with the cheapest plastic in the world.

>>64166440
They started a bit of a fad for the concept and now there's quite a few little short recoil .380s on the market.
And, the P3AT isn't one of them anymore. A victim of it's own success and Kel-Tec's changing priorities alongside it's 9mm big brothers.
Now the P32 is all alone, in a small but entirely uncontested niche.
Pray for him anons and hold your P32 extra tight if you own one. He's the last of his kind

>>64166531
Why? The RFB is better in every regard, though an AR10 mag version would be better than the FAL version if youre not already sitting on a stockpile of surpluses

Any word on their new wondernine?
Either in poly or all metal form.
It also occurs to me that the metal frame version that this is kelgren's first majority metal gun since like the the protec-25, and that thing was zamak

>>64151922
I really hope the kinks get worked out with the p17.
I like the way it looks

>>64164207
So how many yards from a school is YOUR legal limit?

>>64169779
https://youtu.be/qSo0-TOM_Ps?si=0krzhTS2rSGw13Yc

>>64170992
Yikes.
They replaced the P11 and PF9 with this?

The RDB and RFB may be the only bullpups without glaring design flaws from what I've seen, but I haven't shot either.

>>64150023
>never negotiate with terrorists