Thread 64147328

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>please look at how mighty russia is
>please don't ask it to do anything but move under its own power
>please don't shoot at it we spent the last 25 years trying to fix it

>25 years of repairs
How the fuck did it take that long?

>>64147328 (OP)
How long until Hohols touch its bum and its forced to return to port under its own power

>>64147361
you misappropriate the budget every other year

>>64147364
Would be pretty funny, not going to lie. if you know what I mean.

Mysterious sovl

Pitty that they will be keeping her far away from Ukraine. The seething and coping would be hilarious if it was sunk by a sea drone.

>>64147361
Those running the yards are smarter than you think, they know russia will never again operate anything better than a dugout canoe. They've probably been able to build dachas for their grandchildren born over the 25 years of skimming state funds.

>>64147328 (OP)
Any Vegas odds on this baby sinking?

To put it in perspective, they scrapped two of the four Kirov class cruisers in 2021.

>25 years of repairs
>already rusted

>>64147408
they're probably gonna false flag it and blame it on ukraine

>>64147361
They contracted one guy to do all the work.

>>64147456
And they'll what, invade?

>>64147481
they'll launch more MIRVs at hospitals or some shit

>>64147328 (OP)
only cost 5 billion dollars to repair btw

>>64147328 (OP)
It's going to sink because somebody flushed a toilet incorrectly.

time stamp this post.

>>64147589
17:16:56 GMT

>>64147361
Well, it took some times to build the naval test ships for the new, state of the art, systems.

For example, here's the test ship for the new propulsion system.

>>64147790
And here's the test ship for the sensors

>>64147803
And for the hull.

>>64147328 (OP)
>Guess who back
You know who's not back?

>155th Guards Naval Infantry Brigade

Their HQ got blown up, again.
>Ukrainian airstrike hits a Russian command post in Korenevo, Kursk region. Reports suggest commanders and personnel from Russia’s 155th Naval Infantry Brigade were present at the time.
https://t.me/noel_reports/32996

btw: this was in Kursk, so Russian air defences seem to be getting pretty scarce.

>>64147790
>>64147803
>>64147809
One of those ships is not like the others.

I can forgive some bling when it's on a proper sailing ship.

>>64148092
>155th again
At this point being assigned to the 155th is just a death sentence

>>64148099
They can't have many original officers left, let alone enlisted.
Their officers here would have been the survivors of the last one, so most or possibly all of the top ranks have been wiped at least once.

>>64148106
They passed a dozen reconstitutions a while ago, its literally just mobiks with a funny patch now

>>64147790
>>64147803
>>64147809
Don't forget what you're fighting for...

>>64147328 (OP)
Kirov class are probably the best looking ships ever built.

>>64147361
They keep painting it but by the time they have gone from one end of the ship to the other, the bit they painted first has gotten rusty again so they need to start over.

>>64147364
Worry not tovarish, diesel nuclear dual propulsion have lot of own power.

>>64147589
They will hire jeets to crew the ship and they will worship the toilets instead of pooping in them, choosing instead to fill the lower decks with poop until the stinky jeet slurry sloshes sideways, capsizing the ship.

ps: put me in the screencap

>>64148673
I can see that beeing an issue. Perhaps Indians have positions reserved for pooing over the side.

>>64147481
Potato King will join the battle

>>64147328 (OP)
prettiest >modern ship
we were robbed of the cgx
i miss giant boats so much

>>64147430
>The dwarves delved too deep and too greedily...
>You know what they awoke in the depths of the Kirovs...

>>64148170
If we exclude almost every other ship that's been built

>>64148673
>>64148678
>"SAAR WHY ELSE IS IT CALLED A POOP DECK SAAR!"

>>64147430
A timeline like that suggests they were cannibalized for enough USSR-losttech spares to "fix" this one.

Is Russia secretly a cargo cult?

>>64149133
No. It's overtly a cargo cargo.

There's a battlecruiser gap! We gotta reactivate the Iowas!

>>64148170
literally looks like an orc ship with those primitive antennas and sensors

>>64148678
>>64148673
>>64148903
HOW CAN SHE SINK?!!
>HOW CAN SHE SINK??!
*gets mobbed by angry sharks*
H-HOW-- CA'- SH'??!!

>>64148106
Literal Brigade of Theseus at this point.

>>64149270
Nyet comrade, they are the immortals.

>>64148170
You misspelt HMS Vanguard

>>64148170
If you like that you should play highfleet RIGHT NOW

>>64149487
fat, ugly bitch

>>64149531
Someone makes a Fuso version please.

>>64148888
>>64149222
>>64149499

Lmao checked, very orky indeed

>>64149260
The one based Indian.

>>64148988
And these were ships built in Leningrad, not Mykolaiv like the Slava or Kuznetsov classes

>>64147328 (OP)
For how long?

>>64147783
I fucking love this. Who the hell edited the guys head out, lol?

>>64149270
>Brigade of Theseus
>>64149300
>Nyet comrade, they are the immortals.
How can you kill something that does not truly live?

>>64148170
Agreed. Great lines.

>>64147525
>5 billion dollars
>price of the new nuclear carrier
Another example of the Russian incompetence balancing out their purchasing power advantage.

It's already rusty?

>>64150145
its an intentional patina to give it a rustic, lived-in feel

>>64148170
>>64148988
>massive battle cruiser
>has 2 tiny guns and a launcher
It looks barren. At least old Heavy cruisers and battleships were covered in guns.

>>64148170

For me its the USS California. I love the sleek lines that show it is made for nuclear steam powered speed.

Also other anons are shitting on Nakhimov for the old one armed bandit missile launcher and it certainly makes it bad at air defense (especially if it doesn't work like the one on Moskva) but I've always found them much more aesthetic than VLS especially seeing one going full speed firing one missile every 3 seconds..

>>64150189
It's stuffed to the brim with missiles. One of them is the same as those launched from subs, so instead of modifying it for ship use, smekalka solved the issue by flooding the ship prior launch.

>>64150224
>It's stuffed to the brim with missiles
I know. It still looks naked which makes it not look good.

>>64150235
That's what VLS do to a ship.
Compare it to Slava class with the deck plastered with AShM.

>>64148170
but did stalin have kirov killed or nah

>>64147328 (OP)
Anybody else doubt the reactor works and she's just getting around on the auxiliary plant?

>>64150472
I question if she'd move in any direction other than that which the whims of the tides and wind determine if those tugs were removed from the picture.

>>64148099
It's been like what? Ten times already? One really loses count quickly.

>>64150472
Doesn't Russia have nuclear submarines and icebreakers?

>>64150506
I hear they also have tigers...

>>64149531
>comes with a murderkube bulit in
ave nex alea

>>64149531
>>64149545
Come on, Fuso was a beauty compared to that .. METAL BAWKS.

>>64147328 (OP)
>sets sail
>no sails

>>64149260
>>64149553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HxTBp9nEOc
>HOW CAN SHE SLAP!? >:-(
>........
>How can she slap? :-(

ITT: hohol tears

>>64148092
>155th
Jesus, they keep getting smashed.

NATO has no counter

>>64147361
budget

>>64148170
the best-looking Soviet ship is Slava hands down

>>64149487
>Rearguard
ftfy
and anyway KGVs look better

>>64150472
this test is in fact a test of the Nakhimov's nuclear powerplant
I'm sure a lot of watchers, both NATO and Russian, were taking bets on whether it would go chernobyl or not upon startup
(pool might still be open)

>>64150661
>they keep getting smashed
they're the Russian equivalent of 1st Marine Division, or 82nd Airborne. a premier unit which you know will have top brass present. they're hoping to hit those too. that's how they snagged the Russian equivalent of the USMC Commandant not too long ago; by attacking the 155th's HQ.

>>64150101
It's been rebuilt so many times it's somehow changed from a boat to a bride. Mistakes add up.

>>64149487
>>64150700
Step 1: Travel back in time
Step 2: Retrieve Warspite before this
Step 3: Yay Warspite!

>>64148673
We joke but there is literally a level of this happening now. There is actually some free-form shitting on those ships even if it isn't like a submerged deck. ESPECIALLY TOP DECKS OUTSIDE.
There is also an issue with using the sinks for that.
SOME PART of this is not just a meme I have seen it.

>>64149184
Don't cock tease me.

>>64147467
>>64147589
>>64148278
Kek, I'm combining all of these in my head..

>>64147525
A song!

>>64148092
The 155th have been raped so hard time and time again.
Then the war started.

>>64147790
no memes. these toys cost about the same as one of the newer vatnig naval assets

>>64150260
>all of those explosives crammed together in a hull built by historically incompetent naval larper
imagine the boom if a single missile made its way through its deck

>>64151334
Individual VLS cells seems safer than the S-300 storage.
Hopefully the war ends soon so we can get images of the Moskva's wreck before the gypsies steal everything.

>>64148170
I love the shape, but it needs more guns.
>>64149222
Now that you mention it, it kinda looks like the Ork ship from the Deff Skwadron comic.
>>64150189
>has 2 tiny guns
It does also have like 12 AK-630s, but you're right, it looks naked. What would you suggest in terms of additional armament? Personally I think the minimum would be to add a second double AK-130 in front. It'd still be pretty naked, but not quite as bad. Maybe add four AK-176s, two on each side? That'd give it a bit of a pre-dreadnaught look.

>>64151884
>What would you suggest in terms of additional armament?

>>64150651
ITT: zigger meltdown

>>64147328 (OP)
It's hard to grasp how long time that has been, but consider the following.

Nokia 3310 had not yet been released the last time that ship sailed.

>>64147361
I guess the workers are too busy tending the admirals garden and fucking his daughters while the storekeeper is too busy loading all tools and materials he can get his hands on into his BMW X5 to head to the market.

>>64150650
lol man was too based for the other white knights. surprised he didnt get typecast in villain roles, he kinda has a bad guy look.

>>64154942
>surprised he didnt get typecast in villain roles, he kinda has a bad guy look.
Pretty boys are only bad guys in Hollywood films because they go into hyper-masculinity as a heroic trait.
Same kind of reason why heroes have a coffee and a bowl of cereal or bacon&eggs for breakfast and villains have the heart-healthy omelette with goat's cheese and pickled peppers for brunch.

>>64150752
>doing the Helge Ingstad before it was cool

>>64151039
it should be possible to sell to the current administration

>>64152399
simpler times

>>64152399
>Playing snake on my nokia while waiting for my friends on the last day of school, with tickets to Radiohead. No GWOT, no Russia, no kids, wives, jobs, mortgages. Just a wide open future filled with stars like the midnight sky over Great Falls.
I want to go back.

>>64155391
Man, don't remind me
>6 weeks of summer holiday
>hiking and camping and exploring
>no care for politics, job security, finances
>no mass migrant invasion

>>64149487
Looks ugly and outdated. The Royal Navy peaked with the King George V class but now that I think of it, the UK never had a good looking ship except for the recent ones like the Type 45.

>>64147361
it was 11 actually well 15 if we add to the fact that they had to manufacture a new reactor of which they already couldnt make anymore
find enough silver for the piping bla bla

the rest was just usual russian pace

>>64150189
>2 tiny guns

look again at the superstructures LOL
that motherfucker is full with guns

>>64152035
Huh, I watched that movie a few weeks ago. The first ten minutes or so were awful but it turned into thoroughly entertaining cheese by the end.

>>64152035
There are options.

>>64152035
There are options for big guns.

>>64150189
Battlecruiser as a designation doesn't work beyond older big gun vessels anyways, especially compared to the fast battleships of WWII.
With missiles as a primary armament, I feel like there should be a different rating for level of firepower.

>>64158031
Makes me really sad seeing arnold get older. I wish he stayed in shape or at least got rid of the beer belly.

>>64158121
I kind of feel that way hearing all the famous people I knew in my youth dying off

>>64148706
There is currently a potato crisis in Belarus.
A national shortage of potatoes, high prices, and fines for shops not having potatoes on the shelves.

Does this ship have any applicable role in the Russian navy, other than trying to flex?

>>64147364
It will probably become a submarine like the Moskva.

>>64147456
Smoking accident, comrade.

>>64147803
What flag are they flying on the stern?

>>64158121
>Makes me really sad seeing arnold get older. I wish he stayed in shape or at least got rid of the beer belly.
I don't think he has a beer belly but staying in shape at 73 is practically impossible.
He may be on hormone replacement, or may not. That often causes weight fluctuations anyway.

He's in very good shape for his 70s, he's a year older than Putin and only a few years younger than Trump and absolutely mogs both of them.
Time is a thief anon and ruins everything in the end.

>>64159119
>What flag are they flying on the stern?
That's Bermuda, one of a dozen "bad guy" flags you see on superyachts bought with embezzled funds.

The open registries will register anyone and most of them DGaF about money laundering laws or nominee director shell companies and they usually do those too so it's a good place to put a yacht you want to protect from sanctions and conceal from journalists, interpol etc.

Not all the flags on picrel are equally bad and there's a few left off but it's a good start.

>>64149184
Is the Wisconsin still around somewhere?

>>64147809
>>64151334
>no memes. these toys cost about the same as one of the newer vatnig naval assets
forget the shit russians rig together, that sailing yacht would net you a new mogami class frigate

>>64159696
>flags of convenience
>France and Germany
Who the fuck uses a German flag for convenience? I dealt with logistics a bit a like a half of their own ship use another flag, didn't see much frog flags either

Its only purpose is to eat up Ukrainian drones and finally die.

>>64159722
Norfolk VA

>>64159895
https://www.itfseafarers.org/en/issues/flags-of-convenience/current-registries-listed-focs
https://www.deutsche-flagge.de/en/german-flag/registration/gis
https://www.rif.mer.gouv.fr/en/about-ships-r11.html

>>64147430
>fifth Kirov was canceled in October 1990
>USSR collapsed less than a year later
>2 Kirovs sent to scrapyard in 2021
>Monke went fully retard less than a year later
The spirit of [REDACTED] is strong within these boats

>>64149184
>putting the team back together one last time.. (again)
KINO

>>64159918
anon, i know that you technically could, i'm asking why would you even do this when even Germans don't do it.
The half i said before is, if anything, an understatement, because a half is already covered by other euro flags and thats before we even go to Antigua etc

>>64161098
Germany and France operate a second "International" ship register that is considered a flag of convenience by the ITF. That's the ones that are linked.
This is the regular German register.
https://www.deutsche-flagge.de/en/german-flag/registration/ships-register

>>64161129
>Germany and France operate a second "International" ship register that is considered a flag of convenience by the ITF
Why let the thirdies have all the shady superyacht/sanctions dodging fun?

>>64147328 (OP)
>nuclear
>implying they didn't just bind the Great Unclean One which the raw neglect and decay of the engine compartments summoned into the rusted hulk which was once the boiler.

>>64161419
It's less about that and more about basic worker rights.
https://www.itfseafarers.org/en/issues/flags-of-convenience
>A flag of convenience ship is one that flies the flag of a country other than the country of ownership.
>The ITF takes into account the degree to which foreign owned vessels are registered and fly the country flag, as well as the following additional criteria, when declaring a register an FOC:
>The ability and willingness of the flag state to enforce international minimum social standards on its vessels, including respect for basic human and trade union rights, freedom of association and the right to collective bargaining with bona fide trade unions.
>The social record as determined by the degree of ratification and enforcement of ILO Conventions and Recommendations.
>The safety and environmental record as revealed by the ratification and enforcement of IMO Conventions and revealed by port state control inspections, deficiencies and detentions.
>The ITF believes there should be a genuine link between the real owner of a vessel and the flag the vessel flies, in accordance with the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). There is no genuine link in the case of FOC registries.
>Some of these registers have poor safety and training standards and place no restriction on the nationality of the crew. Sometimes, because of language differences, seafarers are not able to communicate effectively with each other, putting safety and the efficient operation of the ship at risk.
>In many cases these flags are not even run from the country concerned.
>Once a ship is registered under an FOC many shipowners then recruit the cheapest labour they can find, pay minimal wages and cut costs by lowering standards of living and working conditions for the crew.

>>64159901
god she's beautiful

>>64147328 (OP)
>Repairs
Wait till you see what the inside looks like

>>64159696
This has to be old as fuck because the Georgians haven't used that flag for at least 20 years.
also
>when you see it you will shit brix

>>64163831
>when you see it you will shit brix
I think Pinkie took over BESTKOREA

>>64163831
>Georgians haven't used that flag for at least 20 years
That list probably is quite old, I'm pretty sure Georgia uses its current flag for maritime registered ships too.

>>64147393
Those family dachas are now in Italy and Spain

>>64163980
>Those family dachas are now in Italy and Spain
The ones that weren't seized anyway.

>>64147361
>Work on ship for a month
>"Money ran out, we're stopping work"
>Takes two years to get more budget
>Work for another month
>"Money ran out, we're stopping work"
>Repeat until someone actually forks over enough money to finish repairs

>>64159696
MONGOLIA?!?

>>64150260
>>64149184
Soviet design, such marvelous industrial kino. They seem so everyday and believable, places of gritty and functional, boring everyday duties without all the glamorous fantasies surrounding many other navies.
Then again, I am one of those perverts who enjoys functionalist architecture. And constructivism, to be frank. So take my aesthetic tastes with a grain of salt.

>>64164406
>MONGOLIA?!?
Sure, not like they're going to check the state of your ship now is it?
That fact has some advantages in ship registration.