Thread 64150210

How would a total war between India and China look like without nukes? Is it even possible to send large amounts of men and tanks past the Himalayas? Does launching missiles, artillery and planes from such a height advantage give China an range advantage when striking into the Indian heartlands? Does it hamper Indian missiles, artillery and planes if they all have to climb to around 5km to even start to cross into Tibet? How would drones work in the thinner air? How would radars even work in such an environment with so many mountains, valleys and ravines? So many questions. It's really the most unique battlefield in the world I think.

Who do you think wins?

>>64150210 (OP)
trying to sustain an invasion force across a mountain range is retarded, the chinks will loop around and buy passage through Afghanistan and Pakistan
I don't know who wins in the long run

>>64150223
Afghanistan doesn't border India...

>>64150228
yeah but it does border pakistan

>>64150249
If they wanted to route troops to pakistan to invade India, why go though Afghanistan first? Just send them to pakistan from the start.

China can roll naval mines downhill.

>>64150256
You have to go over the mountains to get to Pakistan, you want a smoother route through Afghanistan as well if possible to facilitate heavier logistics

>>64150357
China already has a large highway connecting them to Pakistan

>>64150210 (OP)
Hasen't China built a shit ton of roads, railways and other infratructure in Tibet just in case they need to go to war with India? Whilst on the Indian side the money for the same has been endlessly delayed?

>>64150371
I don't think they do it explicitly for war. Much easier to send millions of chinks there to displace and dilute the locals.

>>64150367
highway doesnt have the throughput, they need rail
even then, you can never actually have enough logistical tail so its still worth setting up a route through Afghanistan regardless

>>64150210 (OP)
The Himalayas, no. If China wants to stack Pakistan and send men there it would be more practical. Let your friend's yard get blown up.

>>64150210 (OP)
80% of the Chinese troops would die from diarrhea if they invaded India

What does india have worth conquering outside the tajmaal for cultural reasons?
You could just gas the place and it would improve the world.
Hell if i had to invade them with the Imperial guard id bring a fuck ton of hellhounds

>>64150521
>gutter oil vs. cow dung
they were trained for this

>>64150521
99% of Chinese troops will die to the smog outside of Delhi.
Their weak Chinese lungs can't handle real carcinogenic pollution.

>>64150532
Didn't China have such smog like mere 10 years ago?

>>64150210 (OP)
Nepal is the pivot for Chinese land invasion of India. Katmandu is firmly on the subcontinental side and the railway being built is $5 billion (very cheap really). Apparently tunnel 35 km long under Everest pic related. So the idea would be Nepal ally, pre-stealth logistic through the tunnel, Delhi only a couple hundred km further down hill if the Indians don't have a quick response they are going to be in pieces.

>>64150525
If you used a WMD to eradicate all indians, you would save the western pacific and oxygen generation for half the globe.

>>64150210 (OP)
china should hurry up with that navy building.

>>64150799
How did India fuck up their relations with Nepal to such an extent?

>>64150913
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_blockade

>>64150957
They sure have diplomatic nous kek, no wonder the modern strategy is global diaspora

>>64150494
China shares a tiny border with Afghanistan, it has little infrastructure, and is still quite mountainous. But speaking of rail, I won't be surprised if China starts building a railway to Pakistan in the next decade. They already have thousands of km of rail running across Tibet and are planning to build a rail line to Nepal.
>>64150980
I'm not sure that's an actual strategy as opposed to every Indian wanting to get the fuck out of India ASAP, no matter the country.

they have Medieval/WWI trench warfare hand to hand combat on the border

>>64150558
India's smog is actually worse than China at it's worse 2008 levels, but with like 5% of the industry. I legit have no idea how that's possible.
>>64150988
That's just minor skirmishes. I want to see how total war would look like

>>64150367
Ok, so how much of that road is safe to travel across? How constant are repairs and maitenence?

>>64150993
>I want to see how total war would look like

>>64150986
>I'm not sure that's an actual strategy as opposed to every Indian wanting to get the fuck out of India ASAP, no matter the country.
It's a declared and deliberate strategy by the state of India. Every trade deal India makes comes with a loosening of visas.

>>64150892
About that, the clock is ticking against them
>>64142440

>>64150993
It looks okay and it's probable that if Pakistan slacks on maintenance China will send people over to maintain it
https://youtu.be/0EzfPs44eZA?t=1603

Consider:
>infiltrate PLAN subs into the Bay of Bengal
>arrange some kind of diplomatic cover to push a significant portion of the PLAN's surface fleet through the strait of Malacca and into port in Burma (FONOPs? Cultural exchange? Pretend you're dick measuring against America's foreign base network?)
>mass the PLAAF in Tibet & the PLA in Yunnan
>declare war
>PLAAF strikes Allahabad & AFBs in Nagaland before rebasing in Burma
>PLA invades Nagaland w/ PLAAF support
>PLAN secures the Bay of Bengal
>launch a feint on Kolkata from the NE
>get bogged down
>launch an amphibious assault on Kolkata
>use the city's access to the rest of the country's freight rail to facilitate further offenses
>???
>probably end up taking horrendous casualties and pulling out, but not before triggering the largest humanitarian crisis of the 21st century

>>64150993
>I legit have no idea how that's possible.
pretty easy actually

China never had bad environment control, they just were corrupt officials that didn't enforce rules
but some always complied
early 2000s were only bad because of the quick growth, not because single big sources of smog

also India has
>even worse geography for trapping smog
>farmers burn their fields every year
>almost no regulation regarding mechanical emitters

>>64150993
>I legit have no idea how that's possible.
burning tyres
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Yr-Fdv8jo

>>64151102
Holy fuck, thats like middle of a wildfire bad

>>64151082
>China never had bad environment control
Yeah decades of tree cutting caused some serious desertification so much so that they restarted planting trees, fearing Beijing would become a desert city.
River polluted so much the endemic dolphin went extinct.

>>64150367
>entire logistics train on one road
What's the worst that could happen?

>>64150210 (OP)
>how would...look like
ESL sentence construction

>>64151082
>swirling oceanic plague fleet depopulating the ocean exempt, of course

>>64151004
Billions of dollars worth of goods pass though the highway every year, so it should be pretty stable
>>64151122
It's not just one road, but a series of them.

>>64151102
we should make it mandatory to dump all or toxic waist in india

>>64151082
>they just were corrupt officials that didn't enforce rules
is that why they disappeared Chai Jing for making this documentary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BMR8-HgEWs

>>64151147
I only see G314. China would need to set up an entire staging area in Eastern Pakistan

>>64150210 (OP)
Biological weapons

In a protracted ground war the Indians will win the early stages would be all Chinese
The Chinese will get to india however they can and take early victories if this secures them the win they'll take it if not the Chinese don't have a particularly proud martial tradition and will surrender en masse if they encounter real resistance
Whether they try to continue with drones and the like idk but while both are paper tigers compared to what they project the individual Chinese are also paper tigers and most likely the last in their bloodline compared to the individual indian