Thread 64150264

>The company completed testing this year for its first cruise missile, the FP-5. Capable of traveling 3,000 kilometers (1,864 miles) and landing within 14 meters (45 feet) of its target, the FP-5 is one of the largest such missile in the world, delivering a payload of 1,150 kilograms (2,535 pounds), independent experts said. Because initial versions of the missile came out pink after a factory error, they called it the Flamingo — and the name has stuck.

>Fire Point is producing roughly one Flamingo per day, and by October they hope to build capacity to make seven per day, Terekh said.

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-drones-weapons-industry-russia-7201ab851544c394ee454407058b10ba

>>64150264 (OP)
V-1 flying bomb?

>>64150285
Nah, it doesn't use pulse jet. Size and warhead mass wise, it's on with the largest Cold War era American mastodons, except it's nuclear payload, of course.

>>64150264 (OP)
>>64150266
>>64150277
nice. Ukrainian-made mass produced ballistic missiles when?

We already have a thread up >>>64134006 but since there are only a handful of good threads, lets discuss this again.

>V-1, obr. Ukrainian

No, its not even close. That form-factor of the missile where the engine is sticking out is frequently used in long-range, transonic missiles. Doesn't the Tomahawk also have a bulge?

>>64150264 (OP)
Refineries gonna love this

>>64150359
>That form-factor of the missile where the engine is sticking out is frequently used in long-range, transonic missiles.

sovietrs were fond of that for anti ship missiles. Pic is P-500 Bazalt.

>>64150359
So you're saying it's a strike variant of Tu-141?

>>64150359
>We already have a thread up >>>64134006# but since there are only a handful of good threads, lets discuss this again.
Yeah, it's just that AP came out with an interview with the head of production at Fire Point a few hours ago, and that thread is almost an bumplimit.
>V-1, obr. Ukrainian
*zr. 2025
>Doesn't the Tomahawk also have a bulge?
It doesn't, but some of the older versions have a slightly protruding air intake

>>64150379
Everything is a strike variant at least once. Remember the bushido code, wisdom of samurai - even without weapons ....there is. ALWAYS. One. More. Bullet.

>>64150303
>except it's nuclear payload, of course.
:)

>>64150359
The underslung engine is more of a Russian/Soviet thing. Embedding the engine into the missile is more complex, requires more aerodynamic analysis, and frankly is unnecessary given the modest performance goals and the clearly non-stealthy design.

>>64150399
>modest performance goals
Definitely not
>clearly non-stealthy design
Yes

>>64150393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCov5SEEAs0

>>64150303
>except it's nuclear payload, of course.
for now

oh yet another dreary PR stunt for yet another so-called wonderwaffe. You will NEVER (i repeat - never) see this so-called cruise missile in action. For example, in an attack on the well known major military industrial facilities in Russia that are within its range

>>64150420
You do understand, that it can hit targets as far as Omsk?

>>64150399
>The underslung engine is more of a Russian/Soviet thing.

Why would the engine be underslung if the missile is heavier than it? Engine is lighter. It goes topside.

>>64150432
>it can hit targets

Dude, it can’t go anywhere, because it’ll never be tested in real combat, we’ve all seen plenty of videos with missiles like SS/SCALP (at least until they ran out), but this one you’ll never see in action, just another bullshit money-laundering project

>>64150264 (OP)
>Because initial versions of the missile came out pink after a factory error
be real, they just wanted to fire what looked like massive fucking dicks at Russia, for the lulz

>>64150359

the RBS-15 has a highly noticeable air scoop bulge (uwu) and the Sea Eagle had a smaller air scoop in the same position if you want examples of western missiles with them.

It seems to be having a renaissance if the mockups from MBDA about their new transhypersonic vatnik obliterator 5000 are accurate to the final product.

>>64150436
>because it’ll never be tested in real combat
It already has been, anon

>>64150393
>Numbers 479 and 480 on missiles

If they really have that much, what the fuck are they waiting for? Launch 1000 missiles at once to Moscow?

>>64150455
all in due time my fren

He's a vatnik but I'm getting pretty annoyed too that they always announce new rockets but never launch them.
>but we saw them launch 2 a few days ago!
Yeah and I can guarantee we won't ever see vids of them again. Right now they say they are making 1 flamingo a day. If I come back in 3 months and they still haven't hit anything with it I will lose my goddamn mind. It's a cruise missile, it isn't exactly hard to miss

>>64150453
>Chertkovo
Russians think everything is anything. It was a fucking HIMARS I guarantee it. Last time Ukraine launched an ATACMS at an ammo depot Russians looked at the mushroom cloud and declared they had just been nuked. They lie and make bullshit ukie operations up constantly. Don't trust telegram

>>64150359
>>64150381
>>64150399
>>64150450
A big scoop and/or external engine is superior aerodynamically but leads to a bigger size so it doesn't really fit in a launch cell as well. If it's not cell launched, it's not a problem.

>>64150455
Every time they take a picture of it it adds another two months of development time. Please understand

>>64150393
Your daddy gave you good advice

>>64150455
Probably a pr stunt for the press, not real number

>>64150393
>since they are such good size and all
for you

>>64150264 (OP)
So what kind of warhead does it have tho? Any estimate on how much explosive filling it has?

calculator used
>https://unsaferguard.org/un-saferguard/blast-damage-estimation
>https://unsaferguard.org/un-saferguard/explosion-danger-area

>>64150497
see >>64150393
The payload mass is 1150kg

>>64150455
>what the fuck are they waiting for?
i wouldn't worry about it

>>>64150458
>We won't see ever see vids of them.

That's generally how operational security goes. Both sides would restrict information on a new weapon. Thankfully, Russia has many monkeys living there with many cellphones.

>If I don't see new kino in 3 months I will lose my goddamn mind
Ah, I see now. You are too well fed. You have been spoiled by the amount of kino this war has generated. You should look at some of the old sandbox vids that were shot on potato phones you'll realize how good you have it

>>64150453
>The single one posting a shrug emoji
SHOIGUUU

>>64150436
>t. John Amerikanski of Arkansas Oblast

>>64150393
I wonder if warhead might actually be a repurposed 2000 lbs bomb, say Mk84

>>64150499
>The payload mass is 1150kg
Yes but the question is what the HE filling is.

My IQ is not high enough to visually tell if it is reusing a existing 1000 kilo bomb or using a brand new warhead >>64150393

For example the Mark 84 bomb has weight of 925 kilo but a HE filling of 429 kg tritonal which is equal to about 578 kilo of TNT

I hope they paint it pink like its namesake. A giant pink dildo smashing ziggers gives a delightful image.

Anyone know which engine this is?

>>64150605
no fuck off zigger. We're not telling you which factory in Europe to tend your "Palestine Action" useful idiots to

>>64150344
Now, fellow stalker.

So...where is Admiral Nikholov tied up these days? Asking for a friend

>>64150264 (OP)
Well of you are not white you will probably be seeing this coming to you soon lol.

>>64150559
Maybe paint it the rainbow flag to show the military support inclusivity and is accepting of the bomb. Maybe paint it with bright colours and have cartoon characters in it to give it a kid friendly image.

>>64150264 (OP)
My guess is they want to build up a big stockpile of these so they can do mass attacks and overwhelm Russian air defenses.

>>64150680
>Russian air defenses.
the what now?

>>64150648
>no fuck off zigger. We're not telling you which factory in Europe to tend your "Palestine Action" useful idiots to
I'm pretty sure it's a soviet designed turbojet. I doubt it's produced abroad.

>>64150686
Without being silly, Russia still has fairly extensive air defenses. A lot of their drones have got through because they're really tiny targets to track and hit that the air defenses are not designed to engage. These are much bigger and exactly the sort of thing russian SAMs were designed to track and hit. I would expect them to perform better against them.
Of course Russia still has the problem that's fucking gigantic area to cover and there's more valuable targets for Ukraine to hit than systems to cover them. And Ukrainians have proven pretty adroit at mapping out Russian air defenses and going round them.

>>64150264 (OP)
I dont understand why build this? When you can buy it make a cheap drone that costs way less that could beat the radar and get to the target and you could probably build lot more drones with the same amount of money

>>64150455
Shooting many missiles at once in huge salvo is generally more effective than dribble feeding them to air defences, yeah.

>>64150680
>>64150686

>>64150725
Hardened targets. Drones are fine if the targets are some facilities already housing explosive stuff, or perhaps planes sitting duck in air fields, but if Ukraine wants for example blow up russian nuclear power plants then real missiles are required.

>>64150749
Why blow nuclear plants wont the fallout also effect them? Didnt they learn anything from Chernobyl?

This whole thing is madness

>>64150757
It was just an example, more likely targets would probably be russian heavy industry, such as metal plants, shipyards, and so on.
But nuclear facilities would be possible targets if russia decides to start targeting ukrainian plants or using tactical nukes.

>>64150749
>blow up russian nuclear power plants
More like the giant soviet defense factories deep in the interior.

Have you rver seen satellite photos of Uralvagonzavod?

>>64150678
Christ, i had completely forgotten just how obsessed you guys are

>>64150553
>the question is what the HE filling is.
Looking at the warhead cassing - TNT or TGAG-5. RDX and Okfol are for shaped charges, where you need fast burnign explosive to make the pressure.

>>64150264 (OP)
>Fire Point is producing roughly one Flamingo per day
Need to make one per hour and raid hell on pidors

>>64150344
I ask that question myself every day

>>64150455
> Launch 1000 missiles at once to Moscow?
For what purpose

>>64150420
My brown friend, when yet another factory or refinery goes up in smoke deep in russia how do you tell is that wasn't a missile? Most of those attacks are suppressed information-wise by russia by turning off local internet and such. Then some attacks come at night, so there isn't footage of the actual attack just of the shit burning. And then if it's a cruise missile, then most people won't have the time to film it, unlike with drones.

>>64151093
Wait til dead of winter and let moscow freeze :3

>>64150497
>So what kind of warhead does it have tho?
Most likely just an aviation bomb installed as a warhead. Like those soviet OBADs, FABs and so on.

>>64151099
Or you know, target refineries, factories and ports when enough missiles get produced instead of being as retarded as Russians

>>64151107
Better to target oil extraction stations in Siberia - good luck fixing those if bombed kek

>>64151116
No, blow up refineries and shadow fleet vessels. Force Russia to flood world market with discounted oil and crash prices below 60 or close wells themselves, force OPEC to raise production to maintain market share. Russia will have to buy overpriced Indian gasoline while money from oil is dwindling without rocking oil market

>>64151116
They don't even have to. Without storage, shipping, or refining capacity the russians would have to choose between letting the wells stop (they can't be restarted after they freeze without serious technical expertise and equipment russia lacks) or just dumping raw crude onto the ground. Knowing the russians they'd opt for the latter.

>>64151153
Russians will never voluntarily stop production
The price is a small issue, they can sell oil below cost for quite a while, just because they need at least some export revenue. Fuckin' up extraction is a long-term death sentence for them.

>>64151177
Soviet Union died because of oil prices, not because they couldn’t extract more oil

>>64151187
Soviet union died because its economy was rigid and couldn't adapt. Russian state capitalism isn't like that. For USSR jacking up a price of a "sensitive good" was a political issue and was avoided. Russia can have the prices jack up themselves 2x and nobody bats and eye, only the businessmen are blamed.

>>64150725
A cruise missile is a suicide drone with significantly better performance.

>>64150782
>More like the giant soviet defense factories deep in the interior.
What's the point? If Russia won't be able to conventionally contest "Ukraine" it'll just nuke it. I know that this looks impossible and outrageous for most people here but it's really not, full scale invasion/war was also outrageous idea 6 years ago.

>>64150725
>I dont understand why build this?
- longer range
- more 10-20x more charge compared to a typical drone

>>64150664
those are cruise missiles, not ballistic missiles.
>>64151070
wonder what's taking them so long. Are ballistic missiles that complex?

Estravismo

>>64151201
> Russian state capitalism isn't like that
It’s funny because knowing Russian language and reading news they introduce more and more Soviet style command economy laws every month.
Farmers getting locked into year long contracts with fixed price on their produce, price caps on water, eggs, potatoes, gas only sold if you have coupons

>>64151212
>nooooooks
its been almost 4 years they aint nooking shit

>>64151212
>it'll just nuke it
If it could, it would've done in back in 2022

>>64150455
>Launch 1000 missiles at once to Moscow?
No, it is for the bombass children

>>64151218
>Are ballistic missiles that complex?
Technically not. They are actually way more simple than cruise missiles. Now good ballistic missiles are a bit harder, but AFAIK it comes down to making good solid fuel rocket motor with stable characteristics, i.e. so that multiple missiles produce more or less the same thrust, burn for the same amount of time and don't randomly explode. That's like 50% of the task.

>>64151218
>wonder what's taking them so long
Because it's project of old school "soviet" MIC, they can't into efficiency, speed and so on. They can't iterate fast, they can't put things fast into production, they can't cut corners when necessary and so on. Everything takes years where a small agile new private team would take months.

>>64150264 (OP)
>Because initial versions of the missile came out pink after a factory error, they called it the Flamingo — and the name has stuck.
Kek. I can already hear the screeching about muh gays.

>>64151212
Muuuuuuh nukes post #9765322345689987

>>64151212
>What's the point?
To destroy russian capability to sustain the war. Russian defense sector can be best described as state oligopoly, with a few key players dominating everything. So striking even one of those giant industrial sites can be really painful for them.

Factory floor webm

>>64151255
Really should just keep it pink

>>64151212
> it'll just nuke it
And then get removed from existence by every other nuclear power because that's not a precedent anyone wants.

Also, wow, a nook threat post in 2025. Haven't seen that vatnigger shit on here in like 2 years.

>>64151201
The soviet economy was more flexible and diversified than that of Russia in 2022.

>>64151268
Interview webm

Catbox for audio: https://files.catbox.moe/z7bq2q.mp4

>>64150455
>>Numbers 479 and 480 on missiles
Could be psyops or related to something else.

Anyone who says that Ukrainian strikes on Russian refineries do not make sense and do not affect anything - either does not understand anything, or does it on purpose. They already have fuel shortages. Not yet in the active army, still in the rear, but already there.

The main thing is: it is stored somewhere. All the way, the oil industry, since the times of the USSR, has been oriented towards exports, and exports to the West. Then one brilliant strategist decided to solve the problem with a rebellious neighbor in three days and the export was covered by what is known, but their favorite "we will sell everything to China" turned out to be logistically a little more complicated than they imagined. Do you remember the disaster in the Black Sea, when everything was fueled by fuel oil? Well, this is precisely due to the lack of storage capacity.

There is a certain tipping point, namely the percentage of processing capacity, after which a tangible and perceptible crisis will begin. They write that 15, but I do not know, I am not a specialist in the oil and gas industry. But, in any case, this point exists and it is not far away.

>>64151268
they really shouldnt be showing where it is. or rather let anyone guess where it is.
i fucking hope it's underground or in a mountain in the carpathians

>>64151212
>full scale invasion/war was also outrageous idea 6 years ago
No it wasn't.

>>64151319
>i fucking hope it's underground or in a mountain in the carpathians
It's probably in some friendly EU country inside a nondescript warehouse.

>>64151319
Underground. Part of the reason it took so long to set up.

>>64151249
Which is why it only took Space-X a decade to make a reliable single use Falcon 9 from scratch of course.

>>64151327
>>64151330
That makes sense at least. Total refinery death!

>>64151308
>They write that 15, but I do not know

15% processing capacity off line would be the tipping point you say?

Well, if that's true, then they aren't far from that tipping point because as of this moment, the processing capacity offline is 13.5%.

>>64151308
>Anyone who says that Ukrainian strikes on Russian refineries do not make sense and do not affect anything
anyone who say that is a russian shill. that move wil cripple the Russian economy

>>64151279
>And then get removed from existence by every other nuclear power
No one will do shit, screencap this.

>>64151222
Yes, because they want to both have their cake and eat it too. During putin's rule (that is 2000+) there were always two big sides in the RU goyvernment about how to deal with economy, basically what they call "liberals" (as in less degenerate guys who know that market needs to be a thing and so on) and "managers" (actually they usually called "khozyaistveniki", basically "those who manage the farm"), as in "soviet managers", basically retards who want to control everything manually and think that they know better. For most of the time there was understanding that even though those "liberals" are unpleasant ideologically but at least they can run things and don't fall into the soviet bullshit. Most people in power, including chief monke, is the late soviet generation - they've witnessed first hand how shit the soviet management is for the economy. So yes, despite all the shit, they have "liberals" (or what they consider liberals) in power in terms of economy. If it was the will of "khozyaistveniki", Nabiulina would've been jailed a decade ago and they'd just use the reserves to directly pump money into "important factories", also imposing 100500 limits and regulations on the flow of money, which would make the current state of things look like anarcho-capitalism kek.

>>64151379
well that would require russia to nooook so lol, lmao even not gonna happen

>>64151341
With all due disrespect to Musk, but Falcon 9 was based on the 2006 contact from NASA. By 2012 it has not only achieved orbit, but actually has the first private spacecraft to deliver cargo to ISS.

>>64151283
>how to tell you've never lived in USSR without telling that you've never lived in USSR
Bitch please, USSR has to buy grain in US and Canada using precious foreign currency generated by oil export. Soviet economy was a house of cards based on state subsidies.

>>64151289
Or could be that things don't use sequential numbering of missiles overall. Could be part numbering for example. I.e. one workshop makes those parts in hundreds, doesn't mean the final missiles are built as such.

>>64151405
Not far from Russia buying eggs from Turkey using precious foreign currency generated by oil export

>>64151308
>Anyone who says that Ukrainian strikes on Russian refineries do not make sense and do not affect anything - either does not understand anything, or does it on purpose
Half of them are just shills, with the other half being retarded

>>64151412
Yeah, could be for example 79th part, fourth generation or some other kind of classification altogether.

>>64151424
You have to understand demographics here.
Half are east europeans shilling for globohomo/ukraine, other half are people from the west riling them up.

>>64151416
The eggs part is just them doing low-key domestic PR, while USSR as whole operated like that, generally most things can get fucked and nobody will care.

>>64151436
>You have to understand demographics here.
The internet is 80% brown, just like you.

>>64151437
>The eggs part is just them doing low-key domestic PR
>eggs shortages is PR

>>64150458
> Russians looked at the mushroom cloud and declared they had just been nuked
To be fair, literally everyone does that any time there’s an explosion larger than a firecracker. Thinking mushroom cloud = nuke is not unique to vatnigs.

>>64151444
I'm snow white my man.

>>64151449
Buying eggs from Turkey to dump them on the market below cost and decrease the price is PR, my autistic friend. Just like how in 2022 an important focus for the regime in russia were civilian cars: the regime was paramount that there shouldn't be soviet-tier shortages of cars, despite the western automakers existing the market, because that would look bad to people and thus paint the war as bad, hence they've sent people to fast track import and assembly of chink cars in russia, to at least have something to point to and say "we don't need your Volkswagen and Toyota". Nobody cared about actual economic efficiency, profits or things like that. It was a PR operation to plug the gaps of potential shortages.

>>64151451
Doubtful

>>64151475
by that logic Soviet Union buying wheat is PR campaign to plug the gaps of shortages.

>>64151485
Yes, but since it tried to do this for _everything_, it would never have enough resources to achieve this.

>>64150725
> When you can buy it make a cheap drone
which ""cheap drone"" goes 3k kilometers at jet speeds with a literal ton of explosives you absolute herd lemming midwit

>>64150344
Sapsan is allegedly close, just like all the other missiles. I wouldn't worry about it. By January we should see all of them flying routinely

>>64151379
>Russia won't do shit, because they know the consequences.
FTFY, screencap this instead.

>>64151405
>how to tell everyone you have les sthan zero udnerstanding about the russian economy
I'll give you a hint: The USSR was a superpower with a comprehensive developed economy able to build damn near everything from household appliances to fucking spacecraft.

Russia meanwhile is a glorified thirdie gas station with delusions of grandeur, most of which stem from what paltry leftovers from the soviet times are still around.

>>64151475
That is some spectacular copium you got going there. Doesn't really change that the modern Russian economy is literally nothing but a pale shadow of soviet times at best. And that your whole "they bought shit money gained from oil exports" thing applies anyhwere betwene twenty- to fifty-fold to modern Russia when compared to the USSR. Because again, the USSR was a superpower with a superpwoer economy, while Russia is a thirdie gas station that tries to pretend that it's still a superpower.

>>64151637
>The USSR was a superpower with a comprehensive developed economy
A-ha-ha-ha-ha, oh wow. Tell that to some clueless zoomer. My birth certificate is branded with hammer and sickle.

>>64151616
>>Russia won't do shit
Like launch war in Ukraine? Too late for that screencap anon.

>>64151319
> they really shouldnt be showing where it is
Ruskies know this because they know where it isn't.

>>64151658
Why would I need to tell you more? Every fucking history book in existence can and will tell you that the USSR was, in fact, a genuine superpower. With all the economy needed to be a genuine superpower.

Meanwhile, Russia is a thirdie gas station with delusions of grandeur - and half the reason they've at least somewhat been able to get away with it is exactly because they've been able to ride on the coattails of the USSR's legacy since the 90's.

>My birth certificate is branded with hammer and sickle.
Good job admitting you're a vatnigger gargling Putins glavset cum LMAO.

>>64151659
Russia. Won't. Do. Shit. With. Nukes.
Screenshot it, ziggie.

>>64151701
>Every fucking history book in existence can and will tell you that the USSR was, in fact, a genuine superpower
It was a colossus with feet of clay. Everything you read in history books is fake and gay, even western sources are so deep in brownnosing USSR that it's not even funny.

The "superpower" status was just a factor of being willing to throw its own men into a meatgrinder in colossal numbers, not even for war purposes, but for "economy purposes" in a short run of history (1930s - 1950s), which is was on the major factors which doomed it in the long run. USSR blew it wad with human capital and demographics to pretend to be a superpower and killed its future as a result.

>With all the economy needed to be a genuine superpower.
It couldn't even feed itself retard, by late 1980s it was facing a famine. Again. With US having to jump in to save it. Again.

>you're a vatnigger
Not everyone born in USSR is russian or a vatnigger for that matter. Putin can go suck a dick, he's a quintessential soviet faggot, who's complexes and developmental issues stemming from life in USSR resulted in him being a faggot whom slowly reproduced the same USSR shit. You're just seeing the shitfest more clearly now, because there's no iron curtain and people have smartphones. In USSR you'd just have fake state propaganda imagery.

>>64151760
Nice copium. Doesn't really change that the USSR was superior to modern-day Russia in every single last regard. ESPECIALLY the economy, where they were a genuine superpower with a massive, highly-diversified industrial sector. Of course, most of that was siphoned off/built upon the backs of the other members for you ziggers' convenience. Which is why you're so butthurt about them all leaving your little empire.

So kindly seethe more about your country being a delusional thirdie gas station nowadays, vatnigger. One that btw can't even feed itself without imports, moreso than the USSR at any time post the 40's LMAO. As we're seeing right now, with how hard your agriculture is crashing after just 3 years of western sanctions.

>>64151807
>USSR was superior to modern-day Russia in every single last regard
USSR was facing famine and people survived by eating "empty pasta" (i.e. pasta boiled in water with no addition of anything, no cheese, no meat, no sauce, etc) and potatoes. Modern russia, for all of its fuck ups, can sustain itself in this sense. And for things it can't make it can buy them, unlike USSR which tried to be self-sufficient to its own detriment. Partially because it has "friends" like China, Iran and DPRK. Partially because hypocritical faggots in the west can't help themselves to buy and sell shit from and to russia, even despite the sanctions and war. And I'm not even talking about oil and gas, but even more basic shit like lumber and diamonds.

>>64151849
Okay, and? Russia is facing down the prospect of famine right now.

>Modern russia, for all of its fuck ups, can sustain itself in this sense.
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA. Post Rostov wheat harvest, ziggie. (Hint: It's cratered 50% since the start of the war.) Also, post eggs.

>And for things it can't make it can buy them,
The USSR was able to buy things it couldn't make for damn near 50 years of Cold War. (While also building far more and far more sophisticated things than post-war Russia.) Said Russia meanwhile is on the brink of economic collapse just 3 years after entering a new one.

You're coping and seething over your thirdie gas station not being the superpower it once was, ziggie, by denying that it was one even as the totality of recorded history laughs in your face for this delusional take. It's pretty fucking funny to watch.

>>64151937
>AHAHAHAHAHAHHA. Post Rostov wheat harvest, ziggie. (Hint: It's cratered 50% since the start of the war.) Also, post eggs.
That's the point, it's not a tragedy, unlike in USSR, because it will "just" lead to increased prices and people being butthurt about it. In USSR it would lead to famine instead, since raising prices would be out of the question.

>The USSR was able to buy things it couldn't make for damn near 50 years of Cold War.
Outside of a short time frame around the global oil crisis, USSR never had enough money to buy everything it needed.

>thread about a missile
>2 autist spam the thread about soviet production capabilities
Or something, didn't read LOL. Anyway waiting to see actual footage of them in use. I hate how Ukraine seems to have something new published every 2 weeks but we never see them in use

>>64151451
Modern Disney version of snow white, i.e. brown.

>>64151451
>I'm snow white

>>64151984
You really wont get to see these in use, just aftermath

>>64151958
>because it will "just" lead to increased prices
LMAO, this would be delusional even if we weren't already at the point of prices being beyond what a large majority of people can even afford. People ain't gonna be butthurt about food prices this year or early next one, people are gonna start starving. Famine IS COMING to Russia right fucking now, and you're in outright denial about it.

PS: The last time the USSR had an actual famine was 1942.

>Outside of a short time frame around the global oil crisis, USSR never had enough money to buy everything it needed.
Outright false, and a gigantic projection given the fact that Russia in fact doesn't have enough money to buy everything it needs outside of your zigger delusions. There's a reason they've had to start cannibalising the whole damn state the moment the west began to actually economically pressure them in 2022. And that ability to keep things going by cannibalising the reserves is now coming to an end, with the Sovereign Welfare Fund about to run out later this year.

>>64150264 (OP)
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!
maximum kino mad max
we are seeing literal V1s again!

>>64152129
>People ain't gonna be butthurt about food prices this year or early next one, people are gonna start starving.
No, they just move to lesser standard of consumption. Good cheese is replaced with okay cheese, okay cheese is replaced with bad cheese, bad cheese is replaced with bootleg cheese and so on. Similarly how the cheapest bread in russia is made from animal feed grade grains.

>>64150648
its almost certainly domestically produced, the entire point of this missile is to allow ukraine to strike without western allies getting into fits about using their weapons to kill their enemies

>>64150404
6 ton missile, 1.15 ton payload to 3000 km with a top speed of Mach 0.76 is a pretty modest performance goal
>>64150466
Better aerodynamically for the intake, yes, but with a well designed intake you can minimize losses and you can significantly decrease drag by embedding the engine into the fuselage.

>>64152164
It's far better than the V-1

>>64151243
>reentry vehicles
>simple
>>64151227
nook
everyone knows that nooking anything must either guarantee complete destruction of enemy and allies nuclear capabilities or everyone else will nook him who nooked first
Also there is a certain risk of being exposed as a fraud when it fails, but a fraud who would do it if they had working nooks
lastly NPCs are retard levels of afraid of nooks because old TV propaganda, it's not like you cant get an utter conventional whooping
>sidenote
Sidenote: Russia droning poland is warrants immediate article 5 and a NATO invasion into ruzzia. It may be insignificant and inconsequential, but any hesitation will just lead to slow erosion of that threshold. Hence there should not be a threshold. It's only democratic retards who fall for russian propaganda and fearmongering that believe russia had any sort of capability as a nation or military might and posed any threat. Even the ukrops could just stesnroll it if it was chosen to arm them for decisive victory. Instead western cowards just choose to let ukraine bleed out so that afterwsrds they can argue they actually did support and arm ukraine (just too little to live to much to die right away).
Better just fuck russia back into stone age, it's not like it would take much and then marshall plan them niggers.

>>64152184
>6 ton missile, 1.15 ton payload to 3000 km with a top speed of Mach 0.76 is a pretty modest performance goal
I would disagree

>>64150264 (OP)
The flamingo will raise a leg, and all will be known.

>>64152447
>leg status?
>raised

Probably L-39 (Albatross) engine, so I guess that's why the name is Flamingo

>>64152563
I wonder if they're new engines made by Motor Sich, that has been quiet during the war or old mothballed engines, they made an absurd amount of those.

>>64152164
>every drone is mavic
>every cruise missile with engine on top is V-1

>>64152563
I knew aeronautical autists would figure our what engine it used sooner than later

>>64151093
to purify the world from russians

>>64151653
>Doesn't really change that the modern Russian economy is literally nothing but a pale shadow of soviet times at best
Soveit citizens literally rode trains to Moscow to buy sausages. While today on every crossroad there are malls with 50 sorts of sausages always available.
In 70 Soviets had like 10 passenger cars per 1000 citizens (lol!), while today it's 300.
Het is the thing if USSR had current modern Russian abundance it would never collapse because masses would be completely happy, from Soviet cucks point of view current Russia is literally communism.

>>64152645
Current internet "culture" isn't conducive to nuances, details or logic

>>64151807
>where they were a genuine superpower with a massive, highly-diversified industrial sector.
Nigga please.
USSR started industrialisation buying western factories and ended the same during it's supposed peak of developed
https://idaoffice.org/posts/how-the-fiat-124-became-the-vaz-2101-the-soviet-italian-deal-that-changed-automotive-history/
Like most popular Soviet lathe was copy of German lathe from 1930s. It's really all you need to know about Soviet "industry".

>>64152713
>Soveit citizens literally rode trains to Moscow to buy sausages
To expand on your point: they didn't travel to Moscow to the suburbs, they've traveled from large cities hundreds of kilometers away

>>64150605
A variant of the Ivchenko-Progress AI-322, it's the same engine Ukraine is already supplying to Baykar for the Kızılelma drone

>>64150455
Product numbers like that don't necessarily mean that they have completed that many. It could include test beds and prototypes in it.

>>64152371
Look at the chart you posted, the only missiles heavier than it with less range than it are monstrosities from the 60s/70s. It doesn't take 6 tons to do the mission it's doing, and it's top speed is a modest Mach 0.76. There's tons of missiles with ~the same range with much better payload/mass ratios

>>64150365
With a 3000km range, that's roughly most of the important big stuff in range. Don't forget storage is a fairly premium service as well because if you can't store it, you can't pump it and in Russia's case if you can't pump it- it stops until someone smarter than the average russian unfucks it

Proofs?
Only when russia cries at the UNSC about nazi missiles bombing poor innocent moscow that I will believe it.

>>64152645
Something something evolve to crab

>>64154623
>It doesn't take 6 tons to do the mission it's doing, and it's top speed is a modest Mach 0.76.
It absolutely does, it has one of the longest ranges and largest payload capacities in it's class, hence it needs a lot of fuel, several tons of it.
>There's tons of missiles with ~the same range with much better payload/mass ratios
The ones with better mass ratios are air-launched. Flamingo isn't.

>>64151475
> import eggs below market cost (wasting foreign currency to keep the prolets happy)
> the domestic egg producers can't turn a profit and kill all the chicken to cut the losses
> have no more foreign currency to import non vital stuff
> now there are no eggs at all
> Monke genius!

>>64151289
Picking really big numbers to put on your stuff is classic misdirection
The US has never had 100 airborne divisions, but it still has the 101st airborne

>>64150264 (OP)
Why be so open about your weapon systems. Psyop or is it a distraction from a real weapon system?

>>64155113
propaganda, same reason why Russia hyped the Oreshnik. It's just meant to show you're strong and boost morale.

>>64155246
https://www.politico.eu/article/flamingo-ukraine-3000km-cruise-missile-woman-vladimir-putin-donald-trump-volodymyr-zelenskyy-drone/

>>64155288
>01-16-1970 Fri
Oh my god. The flamingo is from another dimension.

I wonder if they can spam enough of them out and/or if they are precise enough for tactical use.

>>64155303
Claimed CEP is 14m

>>64155345
sounds good enough to hit bridges

>>64155296
We can now have the Ukraine war with a CCR soundtrack then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aae_RHRptRg

>>64150455
They're holding for a surprise strike on Tel Aviv.

>>64150264 (OP)
>Admiral Kuznetsov
Fun proof-of-concept test. And lulz.

>>64155411
What?

>>64155421
You heard me. Losing your sole remaining aircraft carrier to a country without a navy in an Asian landwar would be some high-tier keks. It's a mission that would only require about three Flamingos, at least one would hit, and that should be more than enough to release the Eldritch horrors welded into the belly of that beast.

>>64155440
Kuznetsov is headed for the scrap yard anyway. Repairs have been halted.

>>64155440
Anon, they have abandoned any efforts to repair the ship
https://www.thebarentsobserver.com/security/repairs-on-russias-admiral-kuznetsov-halted-decommissioning-possible/433308

>>64151685
The Vatnik knows where the missile is because it knows where it isn't.
I'm sure this also somehow relates to the ten thousand strong army of foreign mercenary Boris Johnsons.

>>64155351
With 1150 kg warhead it sounds good enough to hit anything.

>>64155447
>>64155451
You people have no sense of how to send a message. Or humor.

Aaaaaaaaaand they already geolocated it. Now instead of 1 Flamingo a day it will be even less.

>>64155493
Geolocated directly to Boris Johnson's secret base in western Ukraine, now I am very demoralised.

>>64155504
saaaar i am rusia navy seal from india ukrie nazi fuul defeat good morning saaaarrr

>>64155493
>Aaaaaaaaaand they already geolocated it
And destroyed

>>64150264 (OP)
Moar like flaminggoy

>>64155493
where is it?

>>64152482
>Fingers:
>pointed

>>64155580
The finger has been pointed into the ass and now the egg will be coming soon, comrades.

>>64155580
>Words:
>spoken

>>64155580
Is Orange Man trying to touch his idol in public?

>>64152563
Its called "Flamingo" because first part were sent pink by mistake of manufacturer

>>64155554
>And destroyed
proof?

>>64155592
>complain that Biden didnt give them the ability to strike back
>memoryhole how his zerglings did everything in their power to block, hinder or obstruct weapon aid
Fascinating

>Flamingo assembly plant is getting doxxed by FSB honeypot known as 2ch as we speak
Somebody do something

>>64155632
Too late, the rooster screams from the mountaintop with a hole in his spoon!

>>64155288
>it’s a Ukrainian missile!
>looks inside
>brit-saudi UAV with filed off license plates
>ArduPilot w/ manual handling
>vehicle dimensions that can’t hold enough fuel for a 3000 km ranged hit

>>64155638
The tribe chief shows peremoha on big shiny box, many big wins of the hohlutu tribe!

>>64155632
Soon the eggs will be measured and everyone will know everything.

>>64155646
the piggy is oinking in delight, victory in two weeks!

>>64155656
Sure it does from the comfort of Warsaw apartment kek

>>64155674
Pidorashkas are squatting in Warsaw as well now? There has to be a pest control

>>64155674
Moscow*
Sorry my obsession with poland got ahead of me

>>64155620
To be honest that was a way he tried to persuade Putin to make peace.
It is fortunate that he soon learned that the only negotiation tactic the Russians understand is violence.

>>64155689
>he soon learned
did he?

>>64155693
Remains to be seen but based on that post it would appear so.

>>64155683
>irony this palpable but it still flies over hys head
Oleksy…

>>64155562
next to the NATO biolab and polish black supersoldiers compound

>>64155683
They’re squatting in Ivano-Frankovsk oblast, Kalush-11 by the promzona

>>64150264 (OP)
holy shit that's a big fucker, I thought it was more V-1 size, probably because of the similar design. I bet this thing can take out a zigger nest deep underground

>>64155358
Imagine the lulz.

>>64155645
>brit-saudi
It's literally an ukie development from an ukie company, stop coping

>>64154688
>With a 3000km range you can go anywhere

>>64155061
Yes, because playing politics and PR instead of solving actual issues is like taking drugs

>>64155246
ArduPilot is a genuinely cool and impressive project

>>64155818
I want to see the contortions /pol/ would force itself into to support Israel over Ukraine.

>>64150455
Zelensky basically said something to that effect.

>>64155603
These retards on RU 2ch think that actual factories and/or warehouses are shown when showing off stuff. Protip: I know at least three separate instances where crap was specifically moved to a different location before it was unveiled to someone lmao.

>>64155902
I dunno which would break first, the slobbering they do for russia or the frothing hatred for the jews. It would be funny either way.

>>64155902
>they are kikes, but they are based kikes, not those (checks notes) blackrock financed globohohols

>>64151286

tfw no derpy eyed q2t chief technical officer gf

>>64155704
Everything Donny boy does is based entirely on how he thinks it will make people perceive him. He's "what if western leaders did face culture" in the flesh. Unless it directly enriches or benefits him assume everything he says and does is an act to make himself look better, because that's all it has been for the past 30 years.

>>64155580
>>64155592
>can't snub the Stubb

Every time this Suomi meets with Trump, whether in a official meeting or playing gold, it lasts for hours and Trump is pivoted way more towards Ukraine

>>64156014
Ship this guy off to live with Trump for like a year or so

>>64156014
>ukraine
they still don't get it

that shouldn't be about ukraine, it should be about killing russians

>>64156014
>This is the man who is single-handedly responsible for preserving America's global influence
Finns truly are the most powerful race in the world.

>>64155885
>there might be ziggers in here

>>64155602
>mistake
They know what they were doing.

>>64155645
>projecting this hard
Nobody will ever call Shahed by your made up name, pidor.

>>64156014
His remarks about the Huns were pretty nasty and shows how racist Swedish people actually are against asian people, including Finns.

>>64156014
>>64156016
He just did an English interview on the subject. Its nothing special, he just understands Trumps intentions and so he is able to help the Europeans get what they want while also helping Trump get what he wants.

>>64155447
>>64155451
>>64155491
>w-we didn't need it anyway
>Let us just confirm that for you. Fuck you. Have bomb instead.
>WAR CRIIIIIME BLYAD
>Also we didn-- waiiiiit

>>64156638
It would be a waste of a perfectly good missile, that could hit one the "Druzba" pumping stations instead

>>64156646
It would be the only thing funnier than killing the submarine twice. Except MAYBE sending a drone to cut the flag off the Kremlin again, then mailing it to Kim COD so he can play keep-away with it while "negotiating" for more shells.

>>64155296
1970-01-01 is the epoch for unix timestamps. So if the clock wasn't properly initialized the system hay have been running for 16 days.

>>64156263
>I hope there be ziggers in here

>>64157866
>Zigger Twitter
lmao even

>>64157866
That's a weird cope for 4 years into a 3 day invasion.

>>64157882
Has anyone ever listened to their shitty podcast? What's it like?

>>64158004
something about fags and buttsex

You may not like it but this is what peak deep strike preformance looks like

>>64150285
Imagine how absolutely dogshit your luck must be to not only be within the same city block as a V1 is targeting but directly hit.

>>64150455
If I was Mr Ukraine I'd be saving them up in case some stupid bullshit happens and they get aid shipments paused again, having a bunch of these in case of an emergency seems prudent since Trump is always one syphilis delusion away from screaming like a child and flipping the table, sure he can't permanently stop aid but if he did it at a bad time it could seriously cause some damage and having a stockpile of cruise missiles could mean the difference between being forced out of an area and holding it until the tard wranglers manage to distract him with a shiny bauble.

Once they get over whatever stockpile limit people who actually know about this shit in the military decide is a safe level then I'd save up even more for a flamingo flock directly into places that would hurt the most.

>>64150686
They might not be very good but they definitely still exist anon, if not then we'd be seeing mobiks having jdams for breakfast multiple times a day. That and the fact that just because king monke doesn't have them set up around stupid shit you don't need like refineries, airfields, ammo dumps, etc. doesn't mean he didn't save them to be set up around the important targets like monke's yacht, mansion, other mansion, etc

>>64158596
What I'm hearing is that if Ukraine wants to force Russia to the table they need to demonstrate a capacity to hit the strategic banana reserve.

>>64150725
Did you miss the part where it has a 3000 kilometer range
Do you dronetards not understand that a cruise missile is just a very long range drone or does your infantile brain assume that all drones are quadcopter and that Zelinsky is going to just sit in his office and pilot a mavic from Kyiv to Arkhangelsk somehow because apparently one of the secret holhol wunderwaffe is infinite power fusion batteries? Even if that is the case what's the fucking point in flying a drone carrying a single grenade or RPG warhead when you can fly literally multiple tons of explosives directly into your target?

>>64151937
I had a thought, hopefully Budanov or one of his lads lurks here.
You know what Ziggers are absolutely not going to be adequately defending that they probably can't easily replace? Agricultural equipment.
How do you suppose the already struggling harvest would go if, say, the only tractors ziggers have to harvest it in time all had a thermite drone park on its engine block? Or hell, these things are probably so low security you could just pay someone in the area to go pour the wrong kind of gasoline/diesel, (whichever it isn't meant to have), or some sugar, or whatever it's not hard to fuck up an engine by pouring shit in the tank, that would fuck them up real good. And sure, they could probably get replacement farm equipment from the chinks, but could they do it before it's too late to harvest?

It seems to me that if you want to piss off enough people they actually do something about their circumstances targeting their food is pretty much guaranteed to work. Just think of it as repayment for holodomor, ziggies :)

>>64158656
holy shit, seek help anon

>>64158505
It probably is, with all the radar-absorbed composites used in it

>>64150303
Is that known for sure? The shape/aspect ratio of the top cowling looks a lot more like a pulse jet than a high bypass turbo fan. Could be a turbo jet I guess but the range seems a little high for that

>>64159838
If Ukranian civilian centers are valid targets then Russian agriculture equipment is a valid target.

Personally, I'm a moderate, so I just say we turn the entirety of Moscow and St Petersburg into radioactive wastelands for the next 5000 years.

>>64150725
smartest drone nigger

>>64161116
Already identified as here as a proper turbofan (>>64152563)

>>64161277
Personally, as a centrist neoliberal, it would be interesting to explore the potential of using the Flamingo warhead to carry phosgene or prions, which could make this war very zany and interesting.

>>64155602
>Pink
Poyo motherfuckers! (>-^.^-)>

>>64150725
It IS a drone.

>>64158656
Nah, they need special ukie terror groups for deniability, because western "partners" are tying the hands of official army. Then use those groups to do a couple dozen forest fires all across russia. A couple dozen small drones with napalm. It's impossible to stop those fires even when they they happen naturally and when they try to put them out, good luck doing so when nobody cares and every resources is put into war.

>>64159838
There is nothing wrong ukies can do against russians that would be "bad" or "too much", that's just the reality of things. They can go occupy a russian region an open a death factory to unironically convert russians into meat cubes for all I care and they'd still be in the right just because of what russians did before that.

>>64150455
serial numbers rarely start with 0
and with military hardware often not consecutively numbered

>>64159838
The russians have repeatedly struck grain silos and shipment terminals. The russians steal stored grain in occupied regions to sell. Fuck russia, let them starve and freeze like they brag about trying to do to Ukraine.

>>64159838
Underage band

>>64162116
You don't even need drones with incendiaries, literally just have a bunch of guys independently hike into pre selected areas and either light a fire then book it, or have them place hidden incendiaries on a timer and have them all detonate at once.
How do I know this would be effective? To put it simply, if someone did the same thing here in the US, it would be an absolutely monstrously expensive wildfire to contain and that's with the huge airborne firefighting force the US has. The same thing in Russia, where they couldn't even contain a fire the fraction of the size without European aid, would probably become the single largest manmade forest fire in recorded history.

Basically there's two main options-
>Send in guys to place timed or radio activated bombs, or the bits to make them in the field
>Evacuate and detonate them all at once either by timer or a radio signal
>Your lads should be out safely before it kicks off, BUT, your lads will be at risk of discovery until they drop the payload

Or
>Same idea but the fires are just started right there using local wood and a match
>Your guys can probably just get to their destination completely undetected using public transportation or hitchhiking. Even if they do get randomly stopped by FSB, assuming they have their papers in order nobody is going to think twice about someone who's only got a cell phone, (gps+comms), and a lighter for their cigarettes. BUT, your operatives will basically be racing to get far enough away that they don't get overtaken once the fire really starts accelerating

You could even hit them with the extra spicy maneuver of "have a second wave of fires start after Russia spends a week moving all their firefighting equipment to the location of the first fire", or "also have another team set up remote operated manpads or whatever to shoot down at least a few of the small number of firefighting planes/helos Russia can muster up

>>64162124
very much this

>>64162454
sure you could do it ... and lose all western ammo shipments. "muh optics" would actually matter to Brussels boomers.

>>64162758
Of course on the news you'd say Ukraine didn't do it, retard. It's obviously a major tragedy that Moscow was burned to the ground, and Ukraine would be happy to offer any aid they can... Once Russia completely withdrawal from all Ukranian territory, that is.
Do you even black ops? Do you think Putin got on live TV and smugly declared that he was the one responsible for the cables in the Baltic being cut? As long as there's no PROOF that you did it you can get away with a lot of shit on the international scale.

>>64162818
>AFU aid convoy breaking through the undermanned lines as forces are withdrawn to fight the fire and thunder-running straight to deliver humanitarian support in Moscow
I doubt we live in that based a timeline, but I do see the vision.

>>64155885
>Nothing beats a Jet2 holiday!
I expect nothing less but a total Russian aviation death.

>>64162181
>Fuck russia, let them starve and freeze like they brag about trying to do to Ukraine.
This would be an extremely bad PR move for Ukraine. Kek

Not to mention Russia is striking grain destined for thirdie countries, not Ukraine itself.

>>64154623
If you pay attention the light ones are air launched

>>64164131
Kek. The grain is still going to a third world country.

>I AM THE GOD OF HELLFIRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu81WUG9OeU

>>64158656
Going after single tractors is a waste of time. The collapse of production we're already seeing is in part caused by worsening equipment issues - a lot of agricultural equipment in Russia was imported from the west and they now can't get spare parts anymore, all while the whole farming sector is also facing a financial crisis so they couldn't go to the chinks for new stuff even if they wanted.

>>64164131
>muh PR
LMAO, nothing short of the Ukies creating full on deathsquads and extermination camps for ziggers is going to be meaningful bad PR.

>>64164131
>This would be an extremely bad PR move for Ukraine.
>Muh optics retards at it again
You're a shill for Russia and everytime you breath it shows

>>64164371
>Going after single tractors is a waste of time
Not if the drones are cheap

>>64150716
Lolwut, even the smallest Ukrainian long range strike drones are at the very least the size of cruise missiles (mostly larger). Any SAM made or upgraded in the last 50 years has built in cruise missile interception capability baked into the design. Even the old SA-8s that were upgraded in 1980 that Russia is using have this capability. If Russia is failing to engage these drones it's because they have big gaps in their AF coverage or something is wrong with their missiles and guidance systems themselves

>>64150264 (OP)
so, how long until the russians shoot down some of their own airliners, mistaking it for a flamingo?

>>64165928
now

>>64165928
Not long

>>64151849
ssshhhh. westerners need to keep the mythos of vatnik union being totally a dark side USA to justify why they are so afraid of that lumbering shithouse

>>64165928
>Ukrainian operatives secretly painted the tips of Russian aircrafts pink overnight
>"blyat, it's flamingo", said the air defense cuckolds
Of course, it won't work but imagine how Looney Tunes tier hilarious it would be if it somehow does work.

>>64150285
company of heroes is crazy these days...
[spoiler]what mod?[/spoiler]

>>64150725
Cunt's got a literal ton of payload, that's more than any shoddy little drone will manage.

>>64150455
It's common to not use consecutive serial numbers on military equipment. Don't want the enemy knowing how much you got.

>>64151849
>pasta
First pasta I saw was expensive imported one in 90s after the collapse. Union didn't have capacity for cheap processed foods. You either ate what you grew yourself, like potatoes or got something that needed only drying, like buckwheat.

OFC anyone from Moscow or any of the same cities that would say "life continues as usual" today had access to everything.

>>64169323
>First pasta I saw was expensive imported one in 90s after the collapse
Bruh, what city were you living in? In any relatively large city you could buy shitty soviet "makaronee" (soviets called any type of pasta "makaronee", despite most of the time it being spaghetti actually). The issue is that most people ate them empty/naked, without anything at all. Some ate them _with bread_. The top-tier variant for the masses were "makaronee po flotsky" (navy style pasta), i.e. spaghetti which was served with canned meat (tushonka) that was pan friend. But getting canned meat was also an issue, yes. At most you could get "doktorskaya kolbasa" (doctor's sausage), basically søy infused ham/baloney replacement, which you could cut and fry a bit on a pan. Pan friend sausage was also a good additional to friend potatoes. Also some would make "milk soups" for kids, imagine spaghetti or noodles in milk. A more retarded variant would be buckwheat porridge in milk.
Fuckin' soviet cooking, I dread to remember that shit and praise god that I had it better than most normies.

>>64168440
>>"blyat, it's flamingo", said the air defense cuckolds
>Air defense cuckolds settle into their chairs, throbbing members in hands to enjoy the show
>Airliners with pink tips land safely
>Disappointment of air defense cuckolds is immeasurable, their day is ruined
You haven't really thought this through, have you?

>>64169509
>A more retarded variant would be buckwheat porridge in milk.
nta but as a kid growing up during the collapse i kinda liked it

>>64151379
You're a retard. The moment the genie is let out of the bottle, whoever dropped the first bomb is gonna get fucked sideways by a joint Chinese-NATO operation to ruin that guy in particular. Doing nothing after a nuclear strike is a signal to every non-nuclear nation that the only correct option is to get nukes or at least radiological weapons by any means possible; since they no longer have the comfort of a nuclear umbrella from the big boys. Which is gonna piss off pretty much everybody with ambitions when all their neighbors are gearing up with nukes.

>>64169509
>A more retarded variant would be buckwheat porridge in milk
you shut your whore mouth, nigger. Buckwheat milk soup is GOATed

>>64168452
That's no mod, that's just some vanilla Brit player getting punished for blobbing up his whole damn army in a match against a Terror Wehr player.

>>64169509
>soviets called any type of pasta "makaronee"
well they're right on that

>>64169579
>is a signal to every non-nuclear nation that the only correct option is to get nukes
It has already happened in 2022, the fact that a nuclear power can do anything (kidnapping, torture, mass killings, bombing civilians, fucking over energy during winter, human safaris, etc) and the civilized world will look the other way, not even look too closely to follow their own sanctions, and will instead try to stop the other side from doing anything possible to protect itself, spewing bullshit about escalation.

>>64169881
>It has already happened in 2022,
Can you shwo is this use of nuclear wepaons in 2022?

>not even look too closely to follow their own sanctions
Oh hey, it's this delusional take again. How's the russian economy doing under these oh so not followed sanctions again? What, they had to start classifying most economic numbers? Oh.

>>64169906
>t.russoid with 0 English reading comprehension

>>64169923
Retard or trolling?

It seems those flamingos are already operational, they have started to spam tron porn.

>>64169923
Straight to projecting, I see.

>>64169931
Eh, the unfolding debacle at Pokrovsk may be the reason. Or that ukie hackers took control of most TV channels in Moscow for 3 hours today.

>>64169906
>it's this delusional take again
My hypocritical friend, please read up on this:
https://arctida.io/en/investigations/diamond-detour - tl;dr: russian diamond trade continues to happen using special intermediaries, it's obvious based on trade amounts that trade volumes changes specifically on the levels of sanctioned goods, literally a special breach in the formal sanctions was left to continue trade despite good optics of sanctions
https://www.scottishhousingnews.com/articles/illegally-sourced-russian-timber-linked-to-construction-of-uk-homes - similar things with russian lumber

>>64169941
My money is that its just that schizophrenic from earlier taking his ban poorly

>>64169951
Nice attempt at dodging the question. How's that russkie economy doing under these completely ignored sanctions nowadays?

>>64156704
>>64156646
>>64156638
Leave it alone, there is always the hilarious chance that they give it to the Norks and undergo the humiliation of the DPRK somehow getting it to work.

>>64169941
Seriously? Anything funny happen?

>>64170278
Tens of thousands of people in Moscow got to watch ukrainian footage of the war and how it's going for 3 hours. On multiple government owned/affiliated channels. Fuckers had done full-on admin-level breaches and locked out the actual operators.

>>64171040
Nice.

>>64171040
LOL, LMAO. Based retards.

>>64171040
Would you please give a link to a news article about it?

>>64171040
Imagine how fun it would be to watch 1 million Russians twitching like bugs, dead from nerve gas in the streets while the DPRK takes over Vladivostok.

>>64171040
No wonder monke wants off the internet wild ride!

>>64171040
Sauce that up, I want it to be true, and watch video evidence of it. I want to see the live reactions.

>>64171893
>implying north korea wont coup the moscow regime and install a puppet regime

>>64171824
https://united24media.com/latest-news/hackers-break-into-russian-tv-on-independence-day-to-air-footage-of-wars-reality-11042

>>64168452
That's base game in the original CoH, but I can't remember if the other German faction was part of an expansion pack or not. Shit's old senpai.

>>64150435
If it's at an angle, it being underslung makes take-off easier. It also gives you the option of ditching the engine once it runs out of go-juice to reduce weight without compromising the stability of the missile.

>>64150559
They unironically have, well at least the warhead part in one of their videos showing one being launched.
I hope that becomes the default colour scheme for it.