Thread 64155225

Su-57's reportedly joined the 23rd Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment. They were previously operated by the 929th State Flight Test Centre at Akhtubinsk where they were used to fire X-59 missiles.

Gets targeted easily by IR technology and machine learning algorithms, it's obsolete.

>>64155248
the cheap pretend-stealth SU-57? absolutely
an actual stealth aircraft?
nope lol.

btw, pretending to be retarded is the same as being actually retarded, you know that right?

>>64155225 (OP)
The chinese found them unimplessive

>>64156969
The one that visited china was a pak-fa I believe

If that aircraft were even 10% as capable as Russian propaganda claims, it would be dominating the skies over Kyiv.

>>64157953
If the F-35 was even 10% as capable as american propaganda claims, the US would have given a dozen of them to Ukraine and it would be dominating the skies over eastern Ukraine

>>64158517
>just give out your very expensive and latest tech
Nobody would do this regardless of it's capabilities, and you know this

>>64158526
>we cant give you our $90 Million dollar plane, instead have $200 Billion in equipment and cash

>>64158517
meanwhile post the list of dead Russian officers, Iranian officers and American officers in the last 5 years, 20 years, 50 years

>>64158517
>If the F-35 was even 10% as capable as american propaganda claims, the US would have given a dozen of them to Ukraine and it would be dominating the skies over eastern Ukraine
US hadn't given Ukraine anything less than 3 decades old and it still buck broke the vatnik union to the point of near-collapse

>>64158533
seething

>>64158533
Yes, and you know why the two aren't comparable

>>64158517
Bait used to be believable

>>64158552
but the atacms
THE ATACMS are wonderwaffles

>>64158564
>>64158560
>>64158553
>yes the F-35 is amazing and you cant shoot it down with your monkey model SAMs
>no we wont give it to you, it's just gonna get shot down, are you crazy?

>>64158572
seems like the iranian ragheads learned first hand how effective they were lmao

India, the country which gets 3 rafales shot down in a Pakibopping operation, are the only people in the world stupid enough to pay for this aircraft in quantity.

>>64158577
a P-51 could drop bombs on tehran without anything to stop it, who gives a fuck?

>>64158586
>3 Rafale's shot down
Wasn't it just 1 that was proven, and the others were not Rafele's?
>>64158572
mad

>>64158603
no i independently confirmed 3 by remote viewing

>>64158572
Every single F-35 sold has been part of a package that involves support infrastructure, groundcrew training, and pilot training which takes a year of being shipped off to Luke. You think you can just 'give' a country an F-35 and expect them to know what to do with it?

>>64158553
>>64158603
not an argument

>>64158625
The same applies to the F-16, so that is not a valid rebuttal

>>64158643
No it doesn't lmfao, infra that can support F-16s have existed for 40+ years in any country that has ever operated 3rd gen fighters. Training can also be done across a dozen different countries in Europe.

>>64158586
Actually Algeria is the main foreign customer for the Su-57 so far, not India.

>>64158626
Neither is "you won't give your latest and greatest tech to a poor country that isn't even an ally, clearly it's because it's bad" tbf.

>>64158577
How are soldiers "ragheads"? Only the religious leaders wear those. Your bias is leaking through.

>>64155225 (OP)
Impressov

>>64158713
We'll call thirdies and shitskins whatever the fuck we want and there's nothing you can do about it

>>64156958
Im not sure about that the reaction against selling turkey f35 after they bought russian aa, shows that maybe anon above you is correct and you could train a machine learning model to update old shit air defenses to detect stealth.

It would be a good explanation why the condition they made to turkey to get the f35 is to get rid of russian aa systems.

>>64158667
>We'd rather give Ukraine hundreds of billions of dollars than establish infrastructure to support an F-35
kek
>>64158707
>they're not our ally, but we'll give them hundreds of billions of dollars
kek

>>64159057
>they're not our ally, but we'll give them hundreds of billions of dollars
wait until you hear how much money US gives to shitholes like Egypt

>>64158517
it wouldn't because air power doesn't work like that, you need to implement an entire system and the plane is just the cherry on top

>>64159057
>muh hundreds of billions of dollars
may i see them, shitskin sir?

>>64159072
a few billion a year, solely so they play nice with israel.
That's it, that's the whole reason.

>>64158600
>well you see anyone is a paper tiger once US bombs them, but the next big guy is for sure a real deal

>>64159076
are you unironically retarded?

>>64159086
>muh hundreds of billions
>not even two total, over multiple years
yep, you totally eat cow shit and rinse it with cow urine

>>64158572
>it's just gonna get shot down, are you crazy
>pidor fantasies

>>64159096
>is too brown to read the date
>accuses others of being brown
fascinating

>>64159104
okay so send it?

>>64155248
Stealth aircraft can already be detected and targeted at greater ranges with radar than most IRST retard. It's not a game changer unless you build a monstrously expensive array of sensors spanning your entire country, and even then that can't exactly be used in an offensive war off of your territory.
You could have the best AI in the world and it won't be able to detect shit if the theoretical maximum resolution of its sensors is too low to discern anything from background noise.
None of this matters anyway when the Su-57's radar stealth capabilities are marginal at best, let alone its nonexistent IR stealth.

>>64159105
>is too slimy and disingenous to not pretend it's all in one year
you bunkertrannies should be tracked down and flayed alive

>>64159109
ok, once 20 years pass and it's 30 years old they will

for now it's current year 3 decade old surplus that'll keep tearing rusniggers a new one

>>64159116
>shifts the goal posts two (2) times

>>64155248
bro shut the fuck up
stop posting this retardy shit in every stealth thread you dumb dumb

>>64156969
They keep sending Sergey Bodgan to fly a T-50 prototype at air shows.

If we got some close-ups of the latest Su-57's we could see by how much the build quality has improved. But I doubt it will look as clean as the Chinese J-35.

>>64155225 (OP)
Su-57 flown closer to the frontline since it now has an air-to-air missile (R-77M).

>>64159442
>pigger seething because the ukranny can't shoot down the su-57 even when it's in range
i'm guessing that either the stealth features work or they have something else that prevents them from being shot down.

>>64160010
>i'm guessing that either the stealth features work or they have something else that prevents them from being shot down.

>>64159442
>>64160010
>still trying to peddle this shitty jet as if it's anything other than an abject failure after all these years.
embarrassing.

>>64158625
The number of F-35 capable bases that will exist in Europe by 2030 is crazy. Really makes air war planning much easier for NATO.

>>64159146
I only did this once in this thread give me a break, I was only busting the Su 57 posters balls by repeating what the other guy said in the F-35 thread. Zero comprehension with you guys c'mon step it the fuck up

>>64155225 (OP)
YF-23 copy

>>64160387
rusniggers wish. isntead it's a su-27 with a bodykit

>>64160388
It's just a cargo cult copy, no doubt

>>64160387
we were robbed of the black widow
retards chose the sci-fi f-15 instead

>>64157225
pak-fa is just a code name for the su-57 project

>If the F-35 was even 10% as capable as american propaganda claims, the US would have given a dozen of them to Ukraine
Oh I wish they would

>>64164913
For me, it's Ukrainian F-15EXs.