Thread 64155555

you clean your guns lately?

the other day ago i cleaned an AK and a 22lr revolver which both haven't been cleaned in a few years
there was no damage at all, just carbon, still shouldn't have left it that long though

also got some surface rust off a west german sig
those pistols have terrible finishes, they rust at the drop of a hat, what were they thinking?

>>64155555 (OP)
If you dont clean you're guns on a daily basis don't @ me

>>64155555 (OP)
It ain't complicated dog. Hoppes No. 9 for the bore and Ballistol for eveything else. Ballistol can be diluted with water at different ratios for different applications. Ballistol will emulsify with water, so when the water evaporates the Ballistol stays behind.

No but I ought to do so right about now. Everything I've shot gets cleaned every 1-3 range trips, and stuff that's been lying still gets inspected every 6 months or so and gets cleaned and oiled if they need it.
>>64155718
>Ballistol can be diluted with water at different ratios for different applications. Ballistol will emulsify with water, so when the water evaporates the Ballistol stays behind.
Neat, didn't know that. I don't have anything that needs diluted Ballistol but I'll keep that in mind if I ever pick up a lot of corrosive ammo.

>>64155718
i use clenzoil, it works great alone if its just a few shots here & there
i have hoppes no.9 bore cleaner if i've shot more than a mag, also got some of their elite just in case anything refuses to come out

honestly though, i think when i run out of this stuff, i'm just gonna switch to using mineral oil as lube, with odorless mineral spirits & d-limonene as cleaner
i'll still keep what i currently got on hand, but with the aforementioned i wouldn't need to care about the quantities used (i got 50+ guns, so its nice to keep it cheap)

lubeanon hasn't shilled in many years, has he finally been stabbed by a refugee?

>>64155555 (OP)
buy an ad

>>64155555 (OP)
>checked
I wash my shit out in the sink and throw coconut or motor oil on it

>>64155745
I used to shoot exclusively 7n6 (5.45) when it was 19 cpr and I never had any issues with rust using the 90% water to 10% ballistol ratio. The water neutralizes/ flushes out the corrosive salts and the Ballistol stays behind when the water evaporates, leaving a nice oily layer. For the bore i use exclusively Hoppes No. 9 and finish it off with a light patch of 100% Ballistol. For AKs I perfer using grease (red n tacky or white lithium grease) on the moving parts instead of lube. Everything else gets Ballistol...I hope they add .35 cents into my bank account for shilling so hard.

>>64155718
>Ballistol
Makes your hands feel smooth too, best stuff

>>64155555 (OP)
Brake cleaner/oven degreaser to remove oil and shit
Wash out with boiling hot water
Thin film of oil
Simple as

>>64155957
You know I actually like his lube still have one of the OG bottles

IDK sons, Im formulating self-emulsifying oils for industry and I know its black powder hood the moment I kick out all toxic biozids. Maybe next week I could do a test how Ballistol does against coolants in its water phase and when dried with its oily film left on. 3D printer goes for a test print right now, those kind of products arent water proff so you test with humidity once dry or with DIN 51360-2. DIN 51360-2 is classic, nobody does the stupid humidity test but its a good way to make money. Also thats my full time job now, I make industrial products like water based, oil based coolants, grinding fluids, cutting fluids, special lubricants, hydraulic oils, rust protectants (water based[black powder IMAO], solvent and oil based). Took that job to fuel NAC into gain free, use the lab, production side and the industrial market to get my hands on all chems and infos. Gonna deliver some images next month the 16/17th when biggest expo is, till than im bussy waggin. Lube is bavarian now
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/znHIbiBz-90
>>64156018
not me
>>64155957
not yet, Im just bussy. Living since 3 weeks in a empty flat without bed or shelfs, but my gun save gets deliverd tomorrow 8am
>>64157077
Current batch is bavarian made, next year the batches get upgrad in term of AW/EP (friction, wear). Company name gonna switch, maybe US production IDK. Next year the arctic gun oil should come, maybe brass cleaner and something for black powder (moose milk) or a basic cleaner against corrosiv ammo. Many project, not enuf money to do them all.

>>64157077
It’s the Frank’s of lube for me, I literally put it on everything and anything it just makes it better and resists my acidic sweat better than any other oil I’ve used.

>>64156144
Same and same. Glad old fuckers like this are still around to teach the youngins. White lithium is great. Locktite C5-A is also excellent, but its expensive, and lord help you if you get it on clothes.

>>64156144
>7n6
Windex, followed by boiling hot water, brushes, dry patches, CLP patches.
Never had rust with that method.

>>64155555 (OP)
>you clean your guns lately?
Lubeanon has a new cleaner prototype that works really well. Also nice quints.

>>64157113
>bussy waggin
There are different ways to interpret this.
>busy wagging
????
What are you wagging?
>bussy wagging
Prostitution?
>busy waging
War?

I clean my guns out of boredom while I watch anime or youtube videos, even if they don't need to be cleaned I'll wipe them down and brush some oil on with an old toothbrush. I find it soothing.

I was using Hoppes gun oil for a long time, and it's alright for basic friction point lubing on the range, it's also really good for busting carbon somehow, but it's a terrible preservative, super watery and evaporates off exterior surfaces in a few days, especially parkerizing.

I've actually found Rem Oil to be basically perfect for parkerized parts, it's also good for cleaning large external areas. It's super cheap and I don't care if I wipe 80% of it off. People shit on rem oil but I think they just don't have the right guns for it. If I had a bolt action/shotgun with an exposed parked/blued barrel I think rem oil would be awesome.

I got a bottle of lucas extreme duty oil and it's really good, but it smells like shit and it's impossible to brush on with a toothbrush, but it sticks onto parts like nothing else I've tried. What I'm using it for is pistol frame rails, AR trigger surfaces, various captive parts that I don't get to often.

For ARs specifically I basically pack all the little cavities with aeroshell grease. I bought two tins of the stuff for a build 10 years ago for $10 and I've barely made a dent in the first one, the shit's awesome and smells good. I can think of a couple places to put it on pistols but I just don't care enough yet.

>>64155718
>Hoppes No. 9 for the bore
I only do deep cleans so its No. 9 on all internal/working surfaces + agitation to get rid of carbon and oil. Wipe it down, leave it to dry. Then lube where metal touches metal and oil to protect against rust. For lubes I use gun butter for oils it really depends on what I have closest.

If I cleaned frequently I wouldent use so much no 9 but its just the fastest way I have found to do what I want to do.

>>64157534
Its sick for sure, but i wanna improve it next year way harder. Less in terms of cleaning but improving its skill against corrosiv ammo
>>64157564
Working for a industrial chemicals company, im the only chemist there without supervisor which gives me a fucking hard time giving myself a inauguration on my own. But its fine, work in tze lab isbkind of chill. I try to add a special type of customer service to learn more about metall working, wasts alot of time and gasoline but its work getting a look inside companies. Pic related a bacteria test i took from a coolant tank, hard to fight bacteria without harming the workers

Buy this and a pack of needle oilers. You're welcome.

>>64157228
If im not mistaken, Windex is a meme...you only need water to flush out the corrosive salts, but if it works for you...do you.

>>64157217
We gotta spread the knowledge. I've never tried Locktite C5-A but the reviews are positive, might have to check it out. Thanks for the tip.

I use a light coat of Red N Tacky on the threads of AK74 muzzle brakes so it doesn't seize up from the carbon build-up.

>>64157113
That's pretty cool anon. Post results if you end up doing the test.

>>64156282
Like butttaaaaaaa baaaaeebaaeee

>>64158284
Which one exactly? Pic related to for corrosiv action while its wet? Maybe i buy a black powder rifle next year so its possible to use wash water to dilute the products and than test how its effecting the corrosion protection. Pic related was a oil free grinding fluid, testing how much % it needs in water to pass the 2h test without any rust. I still need to find the correlation between chemicals and how the products effect dry protection, the moment i got that we include guns into the lab tests. My boss is cool about it so its rent free

>>64158214
nta
windex has ammonia, so it neutralizes acids
not a meme, but theres better out there

>>64158999
Yeah, Windex also contains water as its main ingredient and corrosive salts are water soluble, probably why it works...so i'm pretty sure its a meme.

>>64159073
its like Ed's Red
does it work? yes
does it have legit science behind it? also yes
should you be doing it if you have other options? no

having been friends with a boomer who was an avid shooter, collector, reloader, etc, you see a lot of old tricks that worked back in the day
the main reason they worked however, is that if you live in a small town you wouldn't always be able to always get the real stuff, so it was windex when hoppe's no.9 wasn't an option

>>64159094
>you wouldn't always be able to always get the real stuff
Water?

Windex is less effective than regular water for cleaning salts. It's a piece of fuddlore that somehow transitioned from the days of cupro-nickle jackets.

>>64159140
whats more effective, anon?
>water
or
>water with a little ammonia & some other wetting solutions

take your take, and use google or bing if you have to
grok is also an option, if you're really stumped

>>64159152
>take your take
god i'm groggy today, this caffeine isn't hitting for shit
*take your time

>>64159152
Water or water that already has some other shit dissolved in it.
Plain water can dissolve and hold more salt than water with extra shit in it.

>>64159163
it could be argued that the alcohols both help the salts absorb into the water & separate the acids, while allowing the carbon deposits to be more evenly distributed, therefore cleaning more thoroughly

>>64159182
What acids?
The ammonia and other additives only take up space that could be better used by more water. They take up almost no salt and do not contribute significantly to flushing.
Flushing with ammonia is a holdover from the early days of metal patched bullets and was to deal with the tin/copper deposits that the different jackets tended to leave before the current gilding metal was settled on.
Windex works for cleaning blackpowder but does almost fuck all for modern firearms.

>>64159094
Windex is total fucking fuddlore...corrosive salts are water soluble...no acids....just use water. Imagine spending 20 dollars just to clean your rifle everytime.

>>64159190
in the same way you mention ammonia being a holdover, corrosive ammo was the norm
so having ammonia both cleaned copper deposits, but more importantly, cleaned corrosive deposits

i'm not arguing that windex is still useful, i'm saying that it WAS an option
see >>64158999 for me literally saying "theres better out there", and see >>64159094 for "you see a lot of old tricks that worked back in the day"

>>64159212
Windex never worked though. It was always fuddlore.
Plain water worked better for the salts, hence why every military issued cleaning funnels and instructions to flush with water.
The amount of ammonia in Windex is also not enough to actually clean the copper deposits.

>>64159337
>Windex is also not enough to actually clean the copper deposits.
yes, because it was for corrosive primers instead