Thread 64159252

Should Russia or Ukraine build some for the mobiks?

>>64159252 (OP)
have you ever seen him blow anything up from a greater distance than the length of his garage?

>>64159252 (OP)
they're less a weapon and more of a twink hair & ball removal tool

>>64159306
yeah. he's got a video where he blows shit up with a laser from a couple hundred yards away.

>>64159342
here it is
https://youtu.be/xNmbvaUzC8Q

>>64159252 (OP)
Is that what Christopher Poole has been doing in his free time?

>>64159252 (OP)
the downside is you are shining a massive beacon for everyone else to show exactly where you are

lasers are really only good for either dazzling optic sensors or taking out small drones

>>64159252 (OP)
No lol. Maybe some lasers or microwave turrets for drones but that's about it at this time.

>>64159252 (OP)
laser CIWS will probably be the long-term solution to the drone threat. still a ways off though, mostly because the US military won't fully appreciate how dangerous drones are until they get fucked up a bit themselves. too many (including here) dismiss it as
>dumb slavs can't fight
when it's very clearly beyond that point.

>>64159373
Lasers need not be visible to the human eye.

>>64159591
I only thing laser CIWS becomes viable when they an near instant burst from the laser is strong enough to disable the drown. Hold the drone on target for even a few seconds just doesn't work. Because it's acquisition, TTK, acquire new target. All those steps take time, and each of those steps taking time allows for other drones which aren't being targeted to continuously get closer to the thing you're trying to protect.

As a weapon not really, but the one in your pic would be great for things like SF teams to cut a hole in chain link fences or flimsy steel walls etc completely silently, assuming you are doing your SF shit during the day anyway since that shit is probably visible from orbit and assuming it can handle constant use to cut large holes without overheating or running out of power.

>>64159611
it's already possible, against small drones with a big laser at relatively short ranges. but nobody wants to pay for it.

laser TTK is a fairly straightforward matter of
>give it more power
until you start getting into things like ablative armor

>>64159252 (OP)
No. Power requirements/cooling. Next question.

Thee miiiiight be some merit to some as a blinding weapon. (technically illega/banned by some faggy euro convention but who cares nowdays lol). However if you have mananged to manualy aim a laser at someone's head, why didnt you use that skill to aim some other kind of weapon there instead (and that can't be blocked by cheap alibaba glasses)

These in regards to man portable ones. Now, maybe in the future some sort of "tank" / "point defence system" that also carries a small modular nuclear reactor with it and zaps every drone around. Maybe. But clearly still many millions/billions away. Oh, and it better zap Every drone because if even one gets through on what are likely to be very very fragile laser optics on top (even if the entire thing is armoured below), then you are going to end up looking very silly.

>>64159629
Right, but the problem is that the power in almost all instances isn't localized, or needs to be mobile. Think an Air Force base where they are pulling most of their power from nearby power stations that are vulnerable. And yeah, I know it's already possible but it all circles back to:
>Do you have enough power?
>...no.
>Okay, so it doesn't work.

>>64159639
I mean a blinded soldier wastes more resources than a dead one.

Of course by that logic you may as well just give a bunch of POWs that Parkinson sauce you get from fake junk and release them once they lock up.

>>64159318
I'm ready to hand you $1,000 if you reach out to him and let him pull the trigger on his Handgefertigtertragbarerlichtstrahlpartikelzerstäubungsjüdenexploder apparat on your balls

>>64159611
>acquisition
theoretically negligible. speed of light and all that. you don't have to wait for the bullets to crawl through the air.

>TTK
that, yeah.

>allows for other drones which aren't being targeted to continuously get closer to the thing you're trying to protect.
We haven't even seen autonomous terrain hugging meta yet. The closest I can think of are lurking ones.

>>64159373
or burning peoples eyes and blinding them for life.

No.

>>64160665
Could be a decent terror weapon. Place an IR laser in some public place, turn it on during rush hour, scan the crowd at face level. they won't even know what hits them and the aftermath will be with the population far longer than some dead bodies.

>>64159318
>Wanting your thinks castrated

You will never breed a tight bussy.

>>64159595
>Lasers need not be visible to the human eye.

And sensors need not not detect only in the visible spectrum you cum slurper.

>>64159595
Laser energy outside of the eye's spectrum can and is still powerful enough to permablind. Light energy is light energy. Enough of it is still melting flesh wether or not that body structure will react and generate a signal.

I wear the sunglasses I picked not for brightness, but because they are proper UV and IR blocking, the real long term vision killers.

So let's assume you have a measly, pitiful, weak 100w UV laser array. Let's assume you got some kind of obscene focusing apparatus custom fabbed for it and can feasibly produce nvg/digital optics damaging, not optics blinding but damaging, energy levels out to, idk, 500 meter.

You have a weapon that will instantly permanently blind anyone unprotected in its path. The question isn't "can some laser cannon hurt a person" no you can't do that without kilowatts, ridiculous focusing, and limited range. It's "I can now instantly visually maim everything within a 5 degree radian of where this is pointed out to half a km"

It's insane and the implications for illegality are obvious.

Have any questions, go read about the saga of Alaska Anon.

>>64159252 (OP)
Imagine the logistics.

>>64159252 (OP)
Not for combat, only for awesome

>>64160861
>Solar panels
Vs
>Trucks to carry bullets
>Bullets in boxes
>Manually loading the bullets into magazines
>Bringing the diesel for the trucks that bring the bullets

>>64159591
Something I've always wondered, shouldn't laser CIWS be really dangerous for the eyes of anyone even remotely close to it? Every high powered laser video I've seen has people wearing shitloads of eye protection, and those are nothing compared to military grade ones that can fry a drone from over a kilometer away

>>64160855
>alaska anon
Laseranon? What a freak. I'd been telling him off and on for those couple years that he needed some kind of professional help anx medication.

Here's the latest about him I could find, just a dumb quick Google,
www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-akd-3_23-cr-00087/pdf/USCOURTS-akd-3_23-cr-00087-0.pdf

>tl;dr
Make an ass of yourself and communicate threats above a certain degree, be made an example of.

My only regret with this process is Laseranon likely will not be given the mental health treatmenr he needs, and will probably come out of prison with a desire and capacity to enact vengeance.
Any glowies on this board, should probably push request for him to be insane asylum'd instrad of federal'd

>>64159252 (OP)
Why is Styro so hot? I want to drain Styro's nuts while he talks about energetics so goddamn badly

>>64161070
bro you've got a fetish for serial killers
you literally were not meant to live in this world (for long anyway)

>>64160875
solar panels are extremely fragile

>>64161070
He looks a bit weird because he has hilariously massively mega high Test levels, and that's not even a "chad" meme. That's probably why he is in his 30s but looks like a 18 year old. I also wouldn't be surprised if some of his risk-taking behaviors are partially attributed to that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1162ouPHH3Q

>>64159611
Any air defense system is vulnerable to a saturation attack.
Are missile and bullet based air defense systems able to shoot 10 things out of the sky in 10 seconds right now?
If you launch a big enough wave of any air threat in history, every air defense system in history will be overwhelmed.
The nice attribute of a laser is that as long as it doesn't get overwhelmed in the short term, you can never exhaust its supply of ammunition in the long term.
So even if you have another system that can handle more threats at once, you'd want to use it like an emergency backup for the laser.

But 'get ready for the drone swarms', right? I think the most drones I've seen in one frame of video of the entire Russo-Ukraine war is 4 or 5.
They've spent years launching small waves of their long-range bullshit to exhaust each others' air defenses instead of just saving up a year's worth of production and launching them all at once, are they stupid?
For various practical reasons it's harder and less common than you'd think to just attack the enemy with a million things all at once in a big fucking swarm. Even with autonomy.
China can probably drone swarm you, if it's ww3 and you're sufficiently close to China. But for any situation where the giant swarms don't materialize, lasers are pretty neat to add to the bag of countermeasures.

>>64161119
test causes premature aging rather than extended youth, he's just got some lucky genes that keep him looking like that

>>64159639
>Thee miiiiight be some merit to some as a blinding weapon.
This is sort of a double edged sword.
First, it's use on any battlefield with any quantity, regularity will draw immediate, justified vilification by most reasonable people.
It's cruel to permanently deprive someone of their sight on purpose, regardless of the situation. Battlefield ethics is a grey area for sure, but this pushes boundaries beyond what most are comfortable with. When you employ this as a tactic, you're not looking to kill with a potential side effect of wounding, you're looking to wound and permanently disable, with no chance of killing.
You use this, it will be a black mark and stain on your reputation forever.

Second, it can just as easily be used against you.
This is not some farfetched tech that really needs development - most Blu-ray players have an ultraviolet diode capable of causing retinal damage from ~30 feet away pretty easily - most motivated individuals with basic electronics tech education could design a simple version and put one together in a day provided all the material was available.
If you use them on your enemies, it's immediately justification for them to do the same to you in turn.

Third, and probably why it's mainly not considered realistically more often, it's sort of simple to defeat.
Most man portable lasers capable of blinding can be stopped with goggles.
If you employ a fixed position for the purpose, you create an immediate, ultra right target anyone with an IR seeking weapon can take out immediately.

>>64161119
That's retarded manosphere bullshit. Blood test levels aren't definitive. Androgen sensitivity is equally important. Also the bulk of common science for nearly 30 years has been bullshitted. You and I and anyone else on this website has no idea how accurate or truthful any research article really is.

>Styro is high test!
He looks like the kind of guy with a higher-than-average active thyroid and std.dv above basline androgen sensitivity. He's a whipcord muscle twink with a pronounced jaw. The dense/light build has some indication for androgen sensitivity, not absolute blood test. The jawline is absolutely meaningless as an indicator. Go dig into how that is true and be sure to look into growth malformities that have no relationship with hormones.
Your perception is biased by social bullshit. You don't know anything.

>>64161160
>>64161191
Did you watch the video? tldr; doesn't know why yet, current guess is side effect from liver disease.
Low facial hair with high T levels means something downstream of Testosterone action (production is normal) is abnormal.and that’s most commonly the deficiency of an enzyme that converts T to its more potent form DHT: condition called 5 alpha reductase (5aR deficiency).
Rarer possibilities may include PAIS (partial androgen insensitivity) or Aromatese excess.
And yes, he does say that it's possible it's just instrumentation error.

>>64159591
>the US military won't fully appreciate how dangerous drones are
The USN is on its second generation of laser CIWS while the Air Force is focusing on microwave-based drone defense.

>>64161160
>test causes premature aging
Now this is what I meant by bullshitted modern science. Men age much better than women - we just die younger from various reasons, mostly behavior related, with the excess explainable by some body differences but mostly amounting to a handful of years rather than some large overt amount.
My grandfather died before I was born, from cancer that became untreatable due to his habitual binge drinking. That same grandmother later died (25 ish years later) from chainsmoking/constant 2nd hand smoke from leaving lit cigs in ashtray holders, not because of lung cancer but because the lymph cancer went untreated spread to her bones, took her throat, and then gave lung and heart failure.
You see how complicated this all is?

>>64161254
Kek i watched the vid after posting. So yeah Styro's got something going on hardcore. I hate being wrong sorry bout that.

My point though is still, even for a "normally abnormal" test variance among men, it takes a lot of testing and time and family-line questioning to see if its just normal-natural, within bounds of relative androgen sensitivity, being mediated by some other issue (thyroid or whatever.), or whatever the hell else.

You could have an Asian with 2/3rds the blood test, who has twice the androgen reactivity be immensely more "man" whatever the fuck that means, than some deep Germanic-Franco-North African who are completely 50th percentile baseline on all hormone reactions.

You ever worked some form of labor job and had a coworker who despite their average size or average body or even socially sub average appearance just could outperform everybody physically, well above average, and that was their "normal" for them, they were God Absolute if they needed to really put the hammer down?
That's high androgen sensitivity.

>>64160981
We already issue laser eye protection to every soldier

Lasers are terrifying but not bevause they'll cut a hole through sonething. Imagine if you will, you're driving on the highway and next thing you know your vision is gone. Some extremist decided to use a high powered IR laser to blind commuters. He doesn't even have to sit and man it, he just set it up and walked away. Imagine the DC snipers but instead of shooting people they're causing permanent and irreversible eye damage with a made in China class IV IR laser. You can't see it until it cooks your cornea in less than a second.

>>64159252 (OP)
LASER MOOT

I think that laser is amazing but not for something silly like weaponizing it, it's the fact that you can literally order the parts to build a laser strong enough to cut through pretty much any metal in the world off the Internet. Mounting this in a handheld "gun" is cool, if really irresponsible, but what the really important takeaway is that if you know what you're doing you can just buy a cheapo 3d printer rig and raspberry pi, laser components, and a safe containment system for it to run in and you can literally build yourself a laser cutter/welder stronger than anything in existence within the last 20 years including massive industrial laser cutting systems in factories. Between this and various other 3d print-related things, ie; 3d printing molds for casting metal, 3d printing actual working circuit boards, and 3d printing non-standard materials like elastics or metals, ease of use for 3d print software, and I think we may be on the verge of Industrial Revolution 2: now everyone can fabricate machine tools from scratch in their local vocational school program boogaloo.

>>64162393
>MOOT

>>64159252 (OP)
they are not weapons, those are demonstration toys
actual weapons exist, for damaging EO sensors and eyes looking through magnified optics, although they are not very practical

Laser anon here.

You retards have no idea.
5 months ago a 80w blue laser array diode like the one he used in that video was 300$
Now it's 30$.
What he is doing is the equivalent of a random /k/ommando strapping a gun to a drone with ductape. Laser tech is advancing faster than AI right now and it's horrifically scary, it's going to be the main way of countering drones since it's point and shoot without having to lead shots, you can even get scatter laser shots with weird lens fuckery.
dont even get me started on fibre lasers holy fuck that shit is insane, for the longest time the laser bottleneck was being able to combine multiple laser beams into one beam since you could only produce a certain amount of watts through one diode but now with fiber lasers you can have thousands of diodes that produce tens of watts all linked to converging fibres that produce one coherent beam in the kilowatt range, and i mean you can do this in your garage with basic tools.

Every retarded armchair milsim fagget on the planet is looking at drones and FPV's and they have massively shifted warfare, however it's lasers that are going to be the next fighter jets for the most powerful nations, i could do the math and show you how Nuke ICBM's are becoming more irrelevant by the day but im lazy and maybe you should have a think for yourselves.

>>64163664
So you're saying i'll soon be able to get a phased plasma rifle in the 40w range on Temu?

>>64163754
Not him, but power supply is still a major issue. There's a fundamental problem that a laser power source good enough for a useful laser weapon is always a bomb.
It's either a battery, therefore a chemical bomb. Or it's a fuel cell, a chemical bomb. Or it's a fuel powered generator, therefore a gigantic gas bomb. Or it's a nuclear reactor powered electro generator, which isn't really a bomb but is still a slow-burning hazard to attack.

>>64163664
Do you think they will let us buy civilian laser rifles?

>>64163768
I doubt it, just the reflection from a laser that powerful can/will blind. Someone ND'ing would be a mass-casualty event

>>64161440
tbf then it becomes a question of how much longer till we get replaceable eyes. Everything marches forward at the speed of solving the last problem. Eyes and ears are still major weakpoints for us because we can't really defend them so good without equipment, but it's not gonna last forever either.

>>64163495
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>>64159352
Fuck moot. Moot abandoned us so he could pursue gay corpo shit, and they pissed all over him and threw him out as soon as he was no longer useful to them.
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>>64159595
If sighting for lasers is really an issue for some reason, then the invisible contact beam that's doing all the work can easily be paired with a DVE (Direct Visible Emission) sighting beam.

Someone tell Mr Testosterone to try using one of his high power lasers as a lightning gun.
>Take high power laser
>Rig up to mega capacitor bank
>Activate laser
>Discharge capacitors
>Electricity's path of least resistance is along the laser
>???
>Earth shattering kaboom?

>>64159252 (OP)
Can't he sell those designs for cargo ships so the crew can make somalian pirates blind instantly?

>>64159252 (OP)
Laser weapons are expensive, the generators to power them are huge.
And at the same time defeating laser weapons is cheap.

Laser weapon will never be viable.

Are there laws preventing cargo ships from using laser weapons against somalian pirates?

>>64163664
If this were true why would they not already be in use in ukraine?

>>64166820
The laser in the OP image can cut through mirrors, glass, steel plate, tungsten wire, and even burn diamond to carbon. A mirror is not going to protect your shit from military grade lasers. Basically if it doesn't burn and create a protective layer of plasma and/or soot, the laser will absolutely ass fuck it.
>Laser weapons will never be viable
They are viable right now anon. They are not going to be replacing your service rifle, they're dedicated AA weapons right now, but there was just recently a handheld "laser rifle" shown off that is intended to be used by sappers or other such units for things like frying electronics and starting fires silently. I suppose technically you could try to lase drones with it, but it's explicitly not it's purpose.
>>64166872
Aren't they? Wasn't there a bunch of threads a bit ago about Ukraine field testing various different laser point defense setups?

>>64166872
Who says they aren't? If I had a fucking laser turret I'd keep that shit secret.

>Ivan, what the fuck happened to our drone?
>SUKA BLYAT must've been electrical problem again tovarish we will get the prisoners to rig the wiring better next time with more torture

>>64159252 (OP)
God I hate that "Nerdy Scienceguy" look so much.

>>64167710
i dont think he can help it

Didn't he get vaxxed and battling super cancer?

>>64163495
I love Canada.