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Anonymous No.64160793 >>64161315 >>64161342 >>64161465 >>64161474 >>64161565 >>64162508 >>64163811 >>64169816
How come navantia got all those contracts from all over the world, including norway and australia, when its products are subpar and ridden with design flaws?
Anonymous No.64161315
>>64160793 (OP)
So is your mother
Anonymous No.64161342
>>64160793 (OP)
Many procurers are impressed by it costs less.
That's how I run my imaginary brothel.
Anonymous No.64161465 >>64162608
>>64160793 (OP)
unironically low costs. most procurements are by law required to choose the lowest bidder that can satisfy the requirements. If they lied about satisfying those same requirements or if the products was shite it doesn't matter
Anonymous No.64161474 >>64162163
>>64160793 (OP)
I think the main flaw in this example was crashing the ship into an oil tanker. Seems like a user error to me.
Anonymous No.64161565 >>64167571
>>64160793 (OP)
no ship can survive women.
Anonymous No.64162163 >>64163330
>>64161474
>Teknisk Ukeblad reported in April 2025 that the Norwegian state has sued Navantia for 13.3 billion NOK due to an alleged design flaw in Helge Ingstad, which they claim contributed to the accident in Hjeltefjorden in 2018. The lawsuit asserts that hollow propeller shafts allowed water to flow between watertight sections, a flaw not present in similar Spanish frigates. Navantia, on the other hand, argues that the Norwegian Armed Forces bear responsibility, as the flaw was known before the accident and the frigate was operated with several unaddressed deviations
Anonymous No.64162508 >>64163330
>>64160793 (OP)
The Helge Ingstad isn't a completely fair test of the design or the company that made it because the captain made the baffling decision to evacuate even though 129 of the 137 crew were uninjured and the ship was in home waters, right next to shore, and in no immediate danger (it took days to finally sink even with no one onboard). The gash in the hull was long, but very little of it was below the waterline, But the crew left most of the watertight doors open when they abandoned ship and a leak, even a small one, will eventually sink any ship if you do nothing to prevent it.
Now was it a well designed ship? No. The hollow propeller shaft that ran through multiple watertight compartments without adequate sealing was a big flaw, and the fact that the ship lost steering and engine power after taking such minor damage is even less excusable, buuuuuuuuuuuuut we don't know how long it would have taken to restore it or whether the propeller shaft leak would have been fatal if the crew had actually attempted damage control. Blacklisting the company that built the ship over the incident probably isn't justified, and let's face it most of its competitors' designs haven't proven themselves under real life conditions so we don't know if they're any better. For all we know they might have much more serious flaws.
American designs have acquitted themselves quite well, but that's at least in part because the USN is so good at damage control that it compensates for its mixed record for accident avoidance. But American ships are designed to US Navy requirements, not the needs of potential customers on the export market, besides our shipbuilding industry doesn't have the spare capacity to fulfill foreign contracts anyway..
So n practice, other countries have the choice between Navantia which was tested and found wanting (though with extenuating circumstances) or a bunch of firms whose designs haven't been tested at all. You can sorta see why Navantia still makes sales.
Anonymous No.64162608 >>64163790
>>64161465
>unironically
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Anonymous No.64162641
Wouldn't a fairly large hull be required to make the shaft alley a watertight compartment?
Anonymous No.64163330 >>64167038
>>64162163
>>64162508
>hollow prop shaft
Why? It's more likely to bend/break, and, if broken, is a conduit for seawater (as seen here).
Is it because of cost, compared to solid shafts? Is it because of lower rotational mass, compared to solid shafts? Maybe because of other advantage I'm not getting?
Whould its advantages even matter, over the disadvantages?
Anonymous No.64163790
>>64162608
what's next? Reddit spacing? Fucking spic tourist
Anonymous No.64163811
>>64160793 (OP)
>hollow shafts
how hard is it to put bulkheads into propeller shafts? They can be plastic and glued in were they worried about corrosion? balance?
Anonymous No.64167038
>>64163330
>Why? It's more likely to bend/break, and, if broken, is a conduit for seawater (as seen here).

The torque load is taken up by the outer part of the shaft, the metal in the center of the shaft is just dead weight, so if you make the shaft hollow you can get a wider and stronger shaft for the same weight. And just how hard is it to plug the center hole? Norwegians are infamous in scandinavia for being retarded. Without their oil and gas they would be piss poor.
Anonymous No.64167571
>>64161565
this desu
Anonymous No.64169816
>>64160793 (OP)
Because it funny to watch golems fail