Thread 64163436

.45 Caliber 2011 edition

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>.45fag was too slow
it's like pottery

>>64163446
I didn't expect that someone would make that type of thread, I had trusted anons to do the right thing

>>64163436 (OP)
What’s the mag capacity?

>>64163457
I'm using 10 round STI mags but MBX mags can fit 12-13 rounds in the same length. Extended mags would be from 11, 13, to 16-17 maybe.

>>64163456
Imagine if it had a comp though.

>>64163461
So you can get a flat mag that holds 13rds? That’s like a g21. How big are the baseplates beyond that? I don’t see anything on their website.

>>64163476
I was shooting slowfire so I was pretty loose

when I get more aggressive it doesn't flip and has decent return to zero.

I notice that I had slide peening at the end of the recoil spring tunnel but I didn't feel any abnormally high recoil. I did have a failure where the recoil spring went though the open end of the reverse plug since it's cut for a full length guide rod that I'm not using.

>>64163493
Peening here

>>64163486
Is that not enough?

>>64163498
I’m just curious. I don’t have a 1911/2011

p cool .45

>>64163503
Yeah. 12-13, but right now with the original followers I only have 10. Nice round number

9mm ones can hold like 17 rounds in the same length, the standard size magazine is 17 rounds but with the new followers and mag body design people can fit up to 20 rounds

I’m just happy this thing feeds, and it seems to feed extremely reliably

Repoostan

>>64163506
I finger fucked one and I hated the paddle mag release and the decocker. I understand why it's hard to decock but good lord.

>>64163540
You are definitely bitch-made

>>64163540
>I hated the paddle mag release and the decocker
w-what?! Okay, you're just not used to it.

>>64163539
It took me a while to realize it was looping and you didn’t have some sort of quad magazine pouch

We paddle posting?

>>64163551
Kek, it totally does look like a reload doesn't it

What kinda dude dislikes a decocker being built into his handgun...

shaking my damn head

>>64163601
You should try posting your damn gun

>>64163603
I already did

Why'd Beretta discontinue the 92A1?

p365 > m&p 2 with apex trigger > g19
what do you need a full size shit trigger gun for. pistols have one purpose

>>64163540
Skill issue

>>64163897
>Sikh Sauer
ngmi

TFX bros, how does your sight picture look like shooting from darkness into the light? My GL01 set practically reverts to silhouette bars :\

>>64163456
>trusted /hg/'s drama poster to do the right thing
I wasn't aware you're retarded

>>64163915
Meme all you want, the p365 is more or less the new goldilocks carry gun

>>64164153
Hellcat is superior. Looks better, one extra round of capacity but the same size, made by honest Croats of HS Produkt instead of scamming indians directed by a sig-shyster.

>>64164162
There were a ton of better guns than the glock 19 when it was the carry king. Nobody cared then either

>>64164171
P365 owner cope. They're dirt cheap for a reason.

>>64164175
I dunno if I'd call it dirt cheap really. The base model is down to around 500 which is about the same as the hellcat. Macros go for more as usual

My first handgun was a Canik and I like it but I kind of wish I had gotten a PDP instead. Am I racist?

>>64164280
It's ok to be white

>>64164280
The PDP is a little better, but it's not worth buying a new gun for

>>64164288
>not worth buying a new gun
Poorfag problems

>>64164297
How bourgeois

>>64164280
My first gun was a Beretta and my most recent gun was a Beretta.

Buy Beretta.

>>64164201
They are dirt cheap but sig used to be a premium brand. That's the point, not the comparison. SA has always made cheap guns.

>>64163723
>Why'd Beretta discontinue the 92A1?

It's the perfect looking railed Beretta with removable sights, I wish they would release something equivalent. I want the slide decocker.

>>64163723
Developmental dead end, nobody is interested in the captive recoil spring and takedown lever difference when it makes you not parts compatible with the rest of the 92 line, the slides are different.

The recoil buffer in the frame is not necessary for 9mm and .40 is on its way out.

if Beretta makes a DA/SA micro compact then I'll suck their dicks

>>64164669
You're an idiot. Beretta is possibly the worst gun company when it comes to their understanding of what "compact" means. If they make a micro compact it'll probably be as big as a Glock 19.

>>64164676
The px4 compact is as big as the G19 and the subcompact is similar to the G26 in size

Beretta has been making micros before Glocks were, with the pico and nano. The pico having a chassis system before it was cool.

>>64164153
I wouldn't trust shit to a sig.
>be p365
>break TRS
>break striker
>have untimely finish wear
>"modular tho" <- only matters to people who need a permit for every new gun, which is unconstitutional

>>64164153
*was
>proprietary rail
>no trigger dingus
lmao what year is it

>>64164685
The pico having different grip modules for integrated laser or light into the frame

>>64164685
>The px4 compact is as big as the G19
It's taller, fatter, and has a shorter barrel. The worst combination.

>subcompact is similar to the G26 in size
Half an inch taller, a quarter inch thicker, shorter barrel. Again, the worst combination.

Beretta are retard-tier when it comes to their "compacts" and "subcompacts". A Beretta micro, based on the above info, would probably be taller and thicker than something like a p365 or hellcat, with a 2.5" barrel instead of a 3"

>>64164707
>it’s shorter!
Womp womp subhuman

>>64164696
>Not Shield plus
I know y'all minmaxing cowards just can't deal with actual grip texture.

>>64164696
The hellcat basically has a Glock gen 3 rail. The key slot is a little wider.

What’s the general consensus on the S&W M&P 2.0 in 9mm? I’m in France, where it costs the equivalent of about $1,200, for comparison, a Glock 19 Gen5 would run me around $950

>>64163898
ok that wave grip is nice give me the deets

>>64164723
illiterate niggerbrained retard. Read my post over and over until you either comprehend what was said, or you die. I think the latter will come first.
TALLER
FATTER
SHORTER BARREL
SHUT UP DUMBASS

>>64164785
I like mine very much, but for those prices I would get the flock and spend the rest on a dot or ammo

>>64164785
You can't carry your gun, so why buy an ugly double stack polymer defensive weapon? Since it's going to be a range toy, buy something that is a joy to shoot, like a 1911. 45ACP too expensive? They come in 9mm. Or something else with a great trigger, aesthetics, and grip, that isn't a 1911, if you don't like them.

>>64163898
Blue one has 90s surf shop vibes I like it

>>64164846
>You can't carry your gun
Anyone can carry a gun, anon.

BumbleStickman has uploaded his review of Sig's new 2011.
Are we excited, fellow Sigsisters?

>>64164824
https://gungrips.org/gun-grips/sig-sauer/sig-sauer-p220-da-sa-grips/japan-wave-sig-sauer-p220-da-sa-grips/
>>64164871
Thanks.
It's funny how I came across them. Maybe 5 or so years ago I was looking for P220 DAK grips and found these wave grips for DAK. I thought to myself "thats so fucking dumb... I kinda want them." Fast forward a few years and here I have them for one of my DA/SAs.

>>64164676
ok but I said "micro compact" I didn't say "micro compact that is incorrectly sized"

>>64164785
In the US, the M&P is cheaper and the gun is a little better than a Glock imo. The recommendation for M&P is easy. For a $250 markup, the M&P isn't really that better over the Glock. I mean no striker is worth $1k but since you're stuck buying one or the other I'd get the cheaper one.

If you're limited on what parts you can get, can you get optics and optic plates for both guns? The M&P has cowitness steel sights so you won't need to replace those but you will on the Glock. So factor in that to the cost if that's a route you're planning on going.

>>64164785
The M&P is probably a safer bet than Gen5 Glock

>>64164959
>that serial number
Is this AI?

>>64164846
The punishment for carrying it is much lighter than the consequences of not carrying it. Remember Samuel Paty? The Bataclan? Nice? Daily life in Marseille?

>>64164950
>The M&P has cowitness steel sights
it really depends on the optic model. Having the sights basically line up just over the top of the deck of the optic is not really useful

>>64164968
you have an optic. you're not supposed to use the irons ever

>>64164785
The Glock is better and it's cheaper. Get the Glock.

>>64164964
It's just the data loss / compression

>>64164976
>cheaper
Big if true

>>64165011
>Big if true
Based on what the frenchy said, the Glock is cheaper. He said the M&P was $1200 and the Glock was $950. I've got nothing against the M&P, and in the states its much more competitively priced, but in his case he should go for the Glock.

>>64165171
https://www.beretta.com/en-us/product/beretta-80x-cheetah-threaded-barrel-JB80X380TH

although the barrel does not move during the act of firing the bullet, it is not a "fixed" barrel as this kit does not come with a fucking welder or welding instructions

>>64164968
True, but you also don't want them covering the window that much. Just peeking over the top is good for when the dot goes down (which should be almost never if you replace your batteries). He will probably want to replace the Glock sights (especially if he wants to run an optic) which is an added cost.

>>64164615
Well that's quite sad. I want to buy a 92fs but with a rail, and it seems my only option is the M9A1 now. Or I could completely forego the original grip profile and buy one of their modern offerings for almost $1000 which is ridiculous.

Id on the pistol here?

>>64165072
Fair dinkum

>>64165224
Something Wilson Combat with a light rail. Appears to be a 1911 from the magazine width.

>>64165249
>Something Wilson Combat
Figures, it resembles a lot of the 1911's that get posted here. Cheers

>>64165249
>Be porker, known for indiscriminate mag dumps and maybe hitting 1/20 rounds
>Get a gun with 7 rounds in it

>>64165224
I was doubting that it was a real Wilson Combat due to cops being poor and Wilson’s being like 2.8k starting but the rear sight is Wilson’s U notch sight so it’s likely a CQB or Xtac

The Magwell looks like the X tac one

>>64165273
Police often have caliber restrictions to prevent officers from picking some odd ball shit so it’s likely a 9mm so it’s a 10 rounder.

A all steel 1911 shooting 9mm, with a light, all steel Magwell (some counter balance) will have minimal muzzle rise

>>64165306
It's not about the inability to control the gun it's about the lack of training and highly dynamic conditions (peter porker is moving, Tyrone joggerson is moving, adrenaline is sky high so hands are shaking)

>>64165314
If the guy dropped the money on a 4.8k pistol I think he’s quite into guns and shooting. There are cops who are quite accomplished competitive shooters

My wife’s boyfriend is a cop. You’re going to show some fucking respect

>>64165403
Kill yourself, faggot.

>>64165336
Or he could be one of the many brainlets that buy expensive shit as a status thing or the age old expensive=quality mindset

38 special or 357 magnum for defense?

Moderate power with faster followups or pure explosive power?

>>64165563
Depends on the frame size

>>64165563
38 special currently holds the record for the highest number of bodies stacked in a self defense shooting so you can't go wrong with either.

>>64165563
You only get 5-8 shots. Might as well wring every bit of power you can out of it.

>>64165563
What is .357 Magnum besides .38 Special +P++?

>>64165284
>take the two week course to learn how to goad, harass, and trick law abiding citizens into becoming criminals and to execute the ones that are just automatically criminals (blacks)
>department doesn't hand you a gun because they are "defunded" and do not keep an updated and sufficient armory
>BUT they give you a taxpayer-funded allowance of 2-3000 dollars to buy a gun, optic, flashlight, holster, belt, etc. Any money you dont use is lost, you cover anything over.

This is why you see bodycams with cops that fumble around with the handcuffs they keep in their back pocket but bust out the fucking staccatos with RMR HDs and X300s on them.

>>64165284
It's LAPD, the overtime is probably excellent.

>>64164871
>Burt
>in /hg/
what year is it lol?

Best value 1911? Pic related is what I really want but I don't know if I want to jump $1500 deep into this. I've got other 45s and hardly ever shoot them because ammo is so expensive. Getting 9mm is an option but if I want a 1911 I want a 1911 so I haven't really considered it.

RIA used to be the best cheap 1911s. What about Tisas now?

>>64165675
>Springfield
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHH

There's no WC logo on this one's grip but otherwise looks similar apart from the front slide-serrations and extended magazine to compensate for the shit capacity of a single stack. No optics on either example however, just what appears to be ordinary dovetail sights loaded with Tritium lamps. I'm surprised target guns are even on the department's list of approved models. Maybe there's an LE discount we're not privy to

>>64165675
I used an SA Range Officer a couple of times, it was /k/omfy but Springfield Armory's reputation for insufficient quality control should be noted

>>64165284
>Wilson’s being like 2.8k starting
Maybe he splurged on a service pistol having no wife or children to support. Here's his partner's– worse image but also appears to be a contemporary 1911

>>64165612
>being retarded enough to get tricked by law enforcement
It's literally simple as exercising your right to remain silent and demanding a lawyer in the event that you get arrested
>taxpayer-funded allowance of 2-3000 dollars to buy a gun, optic, flashlight, holster, belt, etc
One of the many reasons LA is shit, yep

>>64165675
Tisas is one of the better ones, since they don't use any MIM, however their steel is softer but it's not like you're shooting gigga nigger loads with .45 ACP

I read on a forum that Springfield glues in the ejector and when it comes loose they actually pin it in place like every other manufacturer. Even on the TRP. I don't know if the TRP is fully machined or not, but it's at the price point where everything should be billet.

If you have TRP money you can probably score a used Dan Wesson .45. I've seen Wilson Combats sub 2k used.
>>64165692
that's a staccato. you should be able to recognize it. Are you that retarded glock poster?

>>64165697
>you should be able to recognize it
There isn't a reason to study inferior pistol designs such as 1911's and 2011's enough to id them in lower quality images

Are you that retarded cock sucker?

>>64165224
Sauce?

>>64165742
ah it's the stupid faggot

The catalyst for M1 Carbines makes sense when you consider all the accounts of NCO's and officers who had to defend HQ's with only their service pistols during the second World War
>>64165745
Here you go, fren https://youtu.be/C2sqJMfVbAg?t=270

I would post an MP4 of the OIS but that would trigger all the snowflakes


I would post an MP4, but that triggers all the snowflakes

>>64165778
you know I saw people on twitter complaining about the "furry that ruins arg"

go back

>>64165778
thank chief,

the best bodycam vids are the ones with cool guns

>>64165284
>due to cops being poor
This guy fell for the poor cops meme. They make money hand over fist and still trample on your rights. Name me another job where you can retire at 45 making 140k a year with your pension with only a 2 year degree. This scale is BEFORE their massive pay bump btw, current PA state trooper salary is $92k MINUMUM BEFORE OVERTIME after just 2 years. Starts at 71k.

Cops are responsible for 40% of most major cities budgets. Tired of paying for these fuckers salaries only for them to solve less than half of murder cases and hand out traffic tickets.

I'm not sure why you would use a "skeleton" hammer on a duty / service pistol. Wouldn't you want as much mass on the hammer for the most reliable ignition?

>>64165817
No worries pardner and yeah, it's rare that you see videos of LE using anything other than Glock 17's, M&P's and [formerly] P320's

>>64165785
Your story sounds like bullshit but you should fuck off back to Twitter anyway

>>64165819
>2 year degree
An associate's in criminology or something?

>>64165851
You’re doing that thing where you reply to several people at once and make vague handgun related questions or statements that show you don’t know how hammer fired guns work or anything

>>64165851
>An associate's in criminology or something?
No dude that would be really hard and maybe make them qualified. PA just requires 2 years worth of any credits. Womens study degree can get you in.

>>64165819
>This guy fell for the poor cops meme.
Most poor cop salaries seem to be major cities and Southern/Mid-western states.

Why are you replying to him? You fucking dumbasses have goldfish memory holy fuck.

>>64165872
Most cops are fucking liars. My coworker thought her own husband made half as much as he did before I pointed out the MINUMUM this fucker could be making was putting him above the pay of the average ICU RN at our hospital. If they're lying to their spouse they will lie to you.

>>64164785
>>64164785
the mnp with an apex trigger is like a hammer fired. the striker is fully cocked
the grip is better slightly too but besides that its sameshit

>>64165896
>A lot of cops hook up with nurses then lose half their shit in the divorce.
> - Administrative Results
Maybe some of them deserve it.

>>64165896
Not everyone lives in minnersoder, eh?

>>64165679
whats wrong with springfield? I want a full rail TRP because I got to shoot one and liked everything about it. it looks sick as fuck, shot and felt great.

>>64165612
>fumble around with the handcuffs
it's because squeezing a trigger is way easier than getting traditional handcuffs to stay oriented correctly while also holding down someone who is resisting
>have to hold one cuff and let the other fall downward to use the first cuff
>second one is now turned around/swinging back and forth/flopping around while you cuff Tyrone's first hand
>have to hold Tyrone's hands still while holding the first cuff, get the other one oriented correctly before deploying it
>MUST have them oriented right because otherwise you can't adjust cuff tightness correctly if you don't
>if you try adjusting them incorrectly, Tyrone can either pull away and start fighting you OR scream "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH OH GOD IT HURRRRRRRTS SO BAD OFFICER AIIIIEEEE AHHHHH AIIEEEEE" and get charges dropped because you did it wrong
Shooting is just easier. Even up close, all you have to do mechanically is point your gun and squeeze the trigger and the gun will still "work" correctly even if you miss

>>64166032
What isn't wrong with Springfield? If you buy an actual Springfield product (not one that they're simply importing like the Kuna) then you're asking for trouble.

>>64165862
I suppose the reduced mass of the hammer results in less mechanical opposition to the slide displacing rearward but stainless steel barrels have always been a durability trade off for accuracy which makes it all the more bizarre this as feature in a pistol marketed as a duty / service piece

>>64165867
I would say that women studies degree really pays for itself but wouldn't be surprised if federal or local grants covered the cost of even that

>>64165651
No one's ever really gone, anon

>>64166098
So you don't know? So nothing's wrong with Springfield. Got it. Keep posting and earn a vacation.

>>64166114
NTA but there's plenty examples of Springfield Armory shitting the bed

Is it worth it to get into revolvers?

>>64166124
There are examples of literally everything shitting the bed you fucking troll. One more and you're OUT.

>>64166139
pp bought a SA-35 this year and had to unfuck the recoil spring and I think the disconnector too

>>64166098
>bro, just like all the stuff. you mean you dont know?
very constructive. youve been helpful.

>>64166114
you're the one who doesn't know lol

>>64166125
IMO revolvers have 2 niches exactly where they are still relevant: deep conceal, and handgun hunting/bear defense with power that transcends 10mm. The middle size revolver is not that good.

>>64166205
they're very mechanically accurate due to a fixed barrel and single action pull is sub 2 pounds

>>64166208
Those advantages apply to Thompson contender just as well, doesn't help. Box magazine is just so good now.

if u use a revolver then ur stupid lol

>>64164785
>be french
>pay $950-1200 for something americans consider $500 of disposable plastic
At least go for something with some history and culture to it beyond "everyone copying austrian soullessness"

>>64166205
The appeal of revolvers to me is 1) more resistant to neglect and 2) if you have a light strike or otherwise "fail to fire" you can just keep pulling the trigger as opposed to the tap and rack and realign

>>64166264
>2) if you have a light strike or otherwise "fail to fire" you can just keep pulling the trigger as opposed to the tap and rack and realign
1. don't use retarded ammo in a retarded gun
2. DA/SA guns accomplish this as well

>>64166270
>2. DA/SA guns accomplish this as well
Has this been tested? Doesn't smacking the same spot on the primer over and over again rarely actually do anything?

>>64166274
I'm currently going through 1k rounds of some absolute bottom shelf garbage ammo I got for cheap and I usually have at least one failure to fire per magazine with this shit (not the gun, happens with multiple handguns). My Beretta 92 has yet to not detonate after a restrike.

>>64166274
Yes, this also applies to revolvers, usually light primer strike in revolver goes bang-bang-click-bang-bang-bang-click-click-bang, second strike often fires the round.

>>64166270
Revolvers also don't have to worry about a fail to feed

>>64166296
>1. don't use retarded ammo in a retarded gun

>>64165993
>Administrative Results
qrd?

>>64166312
Malfunctions happen you donkey, that's why the military tests thousands of rounds through handguns to calculate the probability. It's never zero.

>Le revolver
https://youtu.be/YwogM2DL99o?si=kHUdYZ5DBmQ7ZPlN&t=50

>>64166334
I don't see young guys using Glocks these days. All the Glock fanboys I know irl are old men. Young guys seems to prefer Caniks, Sigs and 2011s. Could just be my area

>>64165960
>mnp with an apex trigger is like a hammer fired
what

>>64166351
>prefer Caniks, Sigs and 2011s
Just a few years ago, Xoomers were all drinking the Springfield XD Flavor Aid

>>64166325
>contemporary automatics might fail once in a blue moon so I'm going to limit myself to 6 rounds with slow reloads and an awful trigger
LMFAO

>>64166395
he's saying it's like a hammer fired trigger, the M&P is a fully cocked striker

>>64166417
NTA but that would mean it has no sear lock

>>64166400
N

Not the best thread to post in but you guys actually work so I have faith

I’m looking on getting into executive protection. My thought is to start off as a bouncer, then proceed to a more static type of armed security, then eventually working my way up to executive protection or possibly diplomatic security. For context: I have more than enough background and training to be an idiot with a gun who checks ID’s. I want the bouncer experience so I can get used to dealing with dumb shit and talking to people while they do dumb shit, then work my way up from there

>>64166450
Start with corrections, unless you think the job will suck too much. Trust me on this.

>>64166450
Post pic. Obvious manlet.
>>bouncer
Door guy is a tall fat man. They are hard to get around. Inside workers need to be fast and do not work alone. Always in groups. Cops make bad bouncers. They have a habbit of escalation. You simply need to remove from premise without triggering a lawsuit.

>>64166454
I’ve already done the LE route, problem I run across is I’m a whistle blower and I’ve been effectively black balled out of LE in my area
>>64166464
>Remove from premise without escalating
Not an issue

>>64166480
Having been a bouncer at a bar in the late 90s that was biker heavy and known for stabbings and shootings i can tell you if you think talking people down or manhandling them in a one on one is the answer you will be stabbed. A lot. And very unsuccessful in your career.

>>64166500
Anon I’ve got the training, I’m very aware. Read the preposition statement, I can do deescalation. I can also use force. I know my way around, I promise

I’m not trying to be a dick here but; not everyone on this board is a man child who sits in their mother’s basement. I do have professional training, and I do a lot of combative training, I’ve been slacking but the last time was like Monday and I’ve been training at minimum 3 times a week (realistically closer to 5 times a week). My point being is hey, I’ve got this. And anything I don’t have I will either be trained in or learn. I can shut up and listen; I got it desu

>>64166549
You just failed the test. You are too aggressive. Too much hubris. You won't make it.

>>64166450
Bouncer is a good pick because you can meet a lot of different people and make connections

>>64166555
NTA but dubs are wasted on you, troll

>>64166480
>>problem I run across is I’m a whistle blower
>>executive protection or possibly diplomatic security.
You will never have the job in the second quote because your first quote proves you are untrustworthy and no loyal. The job requires that first. Morality, legality have nothing to do with it.

What ammo do you carry in 9mm? Federal? Speer Gold dot? And what grain would you recommend for a Glock 43x and a Glock 19?

>>64163540
I was 18 years old and 150lbs emanciated from boot camp when I got gifted a USP and I never even thought about the decocker being hard to manipulate

>>64166582
Speer Gold Dot 124 gr +P

>>64166571
Ya know, the documents show quite the opposite. You should ask about the vermin supreme I whistle blew on

>>64166562
True true. I like the idea as it lets me get into the weeds and used to working with (and handling) people

>>64166582
>Glock 43x
Hornady Critical Defense
>Glock 19
Hornady Critical Duty

>>64166582
Federal HST 124gr +p

>>64166599
Who and why is irrelevant. But you know that. You aren't trying to convince me. You are trying to convince yourself. Just like you think those BJJ classes constitutes "training".
You are not just blacklisted for LE. You are blacklisted for Corporate high level security, overseas "security" and government security that requires a clearance. Actually pretty much any job that requires a clearance.
Basically a guy with theft on his record has a better chance than you do.

>>64165612
>the ones that are just automatically criminals (blacks)
Boohoo, they get what they deserve. Maybe just commit less crime, maybe just obey officer commands during arrest. Not really all that hard, and I'm someone who pretty much universally zogbots.

>>64166598
>>64166630
>>64166635
I like all you're answers, but you're gonna have to fight over which is best

>>64166582
literally just pick a bullet that all available information tells you doesn't suck and stick with it, it's not rocket surgery

>>64166662
Federal HST doesn't penetrate well as Critical Duty [which has the FBI contract] but Hornady subjected employees to experimental pharma ware so there is a moral case to trade off performance through light barriers

>>64165896
>Most cops are fucking liars
we don't lie, we employ an investigative technique intended to extract the truth from our suspects

>>64166582
Gold dot 124gr and Hornady critical duty 134gr in the winter because I hope it'll be less likely to get clogged with winter clothes. I keep meaning to buy a few boxes of the G9 external hollowpoint stuff for winter carry but I'm still not convinced.

>>64163563
The superior mag release.
Captcha: xvyhk

>>64163436 (OP)
Drink from four dollar miller lights at Applebees but I still don't know what you do with your ccw when taking a shit

>>64163563
If they were so superior we'd have more new guns in them and not just legacy models

https://www.guns.com/firearms/p/sig-sauer-p211-gto?i=536313

Sell me this gun

>>64166582
Winchester Ranger RA9T and then Federal HST 124

>>64166325
They also stopped using revolvers in 1911

>>64166740
You put it in your pants between your legs, you keep laying it down you're going to forget it one day. I've been carrying since I turned 21 and there are a few times I've let my gun at home when I was rushing out the door. I've never left it laying anywhere else but I know it would only be a matter of time.

>>64166769
If it wasn’t for the P320 fiasco I’d buy it today. Looks like it has every feature I want and all the youtube vids on it look good.

>>64166701
>critical duty 134gr
Did you mean either 124gr or 135gr?
>less likely to get clogged with winter clothes
Yeah, you never know when someone wearing a vatnik might attack you! Good thing Michael "Garand Thumb" Jones tested which loads are best for such an occasion

>>64166450
>executive protection or possibly diplomatic security
I heard that line of work entails you guarding the door while some politician diddles minors in his private suite which would explain >>64166641 why you've been designated persona non grata after blowing the whistle

>>64166318
Travis Haley clone, talking balaclava variant. Dude was an LE and decided to do youtube videos where he ran guns, made stupid jokes, and talked about guns. Took the balaclava off a couple years ago, I think.

I can't be assed to confirm, but I think this specific quote actually comes from a video on his third channel (Bureau Files) where he was reviewing the A24 film "warfare."

>>64166828
>>why you've been designated persona non grata after blowing the whistle
Pretty much. Or cooking the books. Oopsie in the sand, any number of things that require a guy who's moral compass doesn't pop up only when he is pissed off about his duty assignment like this guy. He is clearly a authority seeking hothead who is compensating for his weaknesses. Good luck to him passing the background check that can last over a year and will cover from his birth to every keystroke he has made since his state/federal cyber center popped up after 9/11. This guy is fucked four ways to Sunday and should just go join the regular workforce.

>>64166895
>regular workforce
Rent-a-cop gigs or armored vehicle driver if he's willing to take an obvious pay cut

New Kimber 2K11 variant, a gunstore listed it early since I don’t think it’s supposed to be out yet

>>64166941
>grip safety
Fuck that

>>64166124
Yeah, because gun people are fucking retarded and abuse the shit out of their guns. The only hobbyist group that is more insufferable and fucktarded than "gun guys" is bikers. You can pick just about any gun and find a post about it exploding or breaking in about 2 minutes on google because some troglodyte ran the piss out of it with bubba loads, or shot their pistol with an +P round they had rechambered 50 times over the years and had retarded setback (I literally saw this exact thing happen to a gorgeous hi power at a range). Dude brought it in loaded and blew the thing to pieces with the first round he shot, the entire mag was full of rounds that had been set back from years of unloading the gun and chambering rounds.

>>64166828
>Good thing Michael "Garand Thumb" Jones tested which loads are best for such an occasion
Faggot, Paul's tests did the same shit for basically decades.

>>64166967
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz8xyNzlEcs

>tfw my next gun was going to be a Glock 19 COA
>tfw they're all gone now

>>64166995
I just want a Glock 19 MOS for under $620 but these fucking things never go on sale.

>>64166977
Cocksucker, Paul never tested 135gr Critical Duty to my recollection. Federal HST was the most contemporary ammo he demonstrated on denim and simulated tissue with bone

>>64166967
Grim! Even I rotate my carry ammo out every 6 - 9 months

>>64166995
>frog poster got what he fucking deserves

>>64167019
I think the captions are reversed on your photo anon

>>64166828
>135gr
Yeah 135gr, I've had a horrible week. I haven't watched any GT videos in quite a while, I like to carry a 4" PDP-F when I wear winter clothes so the Critical Duty is a perfect fit and the extra barrier blindness can't hurt. Did he test the G9 external hollowpoint?

>>64167043
Michael Jones' editor captioned those images, not me https://youtu.be/IUsMOWQLvdI?t=707

>>64167058
That he did, anon! https://youtu.be/n82fCmD_Ado?t=1009

The results of the test are not Burt approved however because the jacket has multiple layers under it and he believes the compensated barrel unfairly disadvantaged the competition

>>64167083
>A2 approved meme
Go back to your country.

>>64167083
I'll watch it, due to his tendency to shill and record of outright lying about ammo (AAC) I don't particularly trust Mike for stuff like this and it's not like I'm going to buy some gel and test them myself... I'll probably pick up a few boxes eventually.

>>64167083
Go back to arg loser

should i get a hellcat micro and canik or just get one g19 sized canik pistol?

>>64167228
what guns do you already have?

>>64167233
ar15 is all

>>64167237
are you trans

>>64167243
no but low t

Still looking for personal experience running the 18rd PDP compact mags in the PDP-F. Looks fine on paper and I doubt it over inserts but they're not on Walther's official PDP-F accessory page only the $80 18rd PDP PRO SD.

>>64167253
Does your magazine look like this, https://waltherarms.com/shop/pdp-compact-pro-sd-magazine-18rd
Or like this, https://waltherarms.com/shop/walther-mag-fs-walther-9mm-18rd-new
?

>>64167253
stop using stupid guns

>>64167228
It's generally reccomended not to get a tiny pistol as your first pistol as it is much harder to learn on smaller pistols. A compact sized (glock 19 as you put it) pistol is generally the best compromise of easy for beginners to carry and shoot. Caniks don't have a great rep, but are cheap. Other cheap alternatives are the Taurus g3c, the Berretta APX compact, the ruger RXM, and the IWI Masada. Of those options I like the IWI masada and the taurus g3c the best but you should either go to a rental range and try them or finger fuck em at a shop.

>>64167249
get the G19 sized pistol

>>64167261
Neither it's picrel, and I don't own any or I wouldn't have to ask I only have 15rd mags but the 18rd mags are only slightly longer.
>>64167262
The PDP is a White man's gun, you wouldn't get it.

>>64167277
It's this one, https://waltherarms.com/shop/pdp-compact-pro-sd-magazine-18rd
compare item sku

>>64167282
I see that now, I guess it was the prices that threw me off. That's sig levels of greed charging people $80 for those on the Walther site when you can buy them for ~$40 everywhere else.

>>64167277
>F-series
Straight white cis woman's gun

>>64167294
The 'F' stands for faggot, I'd rather be a White faggot than a non anything. But even with the 'F' I'll never be as gay as the man carrying a CZ, see the entirety of the Bundeswehr coming out of the closet and adopting CZ the same moment they ditch Flecktarn. It doesn't get more homosexual.

>>64167269
thanks. i also have a g19 model and it fits in my hands very well even though they are large. good center balance.
>>64167264
>best compromise of easy for beginners to carry and shoot
well that is for the full size pistol anyway. it would be silly to buy a g19 size then buy a carry or full size pistol later (unless you just sell the first)
why do caniks have a bad rep? ill look into those recommendations. if anything taurus has a worse rep

>>64167316
>caniks have a bad rep
first time I heard that, they are made in turkiye, so there's that, but they started out with a very good design

>>64167316
>why do caniks have a bad rep?
Mostly because they don't work well. At least you can get a brand new g3c for $180 online, and it will work reliably. This was one of 4 malfunctions I had in just 10 rounds with this canik.
>it would be silly to buy a g19 size then buy a carry or full size
Why? They fill different rolls and are each good for different things. It is much sillier to buy a tiny pistol as your first pistol as handguns are very difficult to learn to shoot compared to shotguns or rifles. Trust me, I bought a tiny S&W shield as my first handgun. Learn from my mistakes don't repeat them.

>>64167360
Don't get me wrong I love the PKK and hate Turkey, but my Tisas has been great and they make some other decent budget firearms like some of the SAR pistols.

The caniks do not share the reputation for QC and reliability that the Tisas and SAR earned.

>>64167316
If you are concerned about wanting a compact, full size, and tiny pistol why not get a modular gun like the Taurus GX4, Masada, or RXM that can be swaped to different sizes with grip modules you buy online and ship to your house? The masada and gx4 even have mischeif machine frames that turn them into 1911s

>>64166264
>just keep pulling the trigger
That's cute in theory but the reality is that your DA is susceptible to cylinder misalignment or sear damage. The ratchet involved isn't too far removed from clockwork

>>64167091
>ESL doesn't understand sarcasm
Many such cases!

>>64167110
>I don't particularly trust Mike
And I don't blame you but Paul's gone now so we'll have to make due
>pick up a few boxes eventually
You've got plenty of time assuming you're somewhere in the sun belt B)

>>64167115
Go back to your country

>>64167228
>g19 sized canik pistol?
Sub compacts are universally terrible so definitely the Canik or G19 sized anything for that matter

>>64167237
What sort of AR-15 do you have, Ruger AR-556? Perhaps an M&P15 II?

>>64164871
Burt is there a place where we can see all your photography?

>>64167228
Old school subcompacts like the g26, g29, p2000sk, p30sk, px4 compact, are the best all around size for a gun and are easily controlled by novice shooters and more comfortable for experienced ones with minor mag baseplate mods. They are not skinny jeans and gay sportswear carries or pocket guns but I have no problem with shorts and a T shirt. The extra size actually helps keep guns that size from jabbing my legs vs micro 9s and the more rounded iff hks/berettas are comfier than glocks and glockoffs. If you’re fat your experience may differ. I have rock hard abs.

>>64167500
I love my Python.

>>64166641
This is hilarious dumbfuckery. Do you know what discovery in a civil lawsuit is and what that entails? Do you understand what a FOIA request is?

Shit is very not private, good luck dodging those for verg long. Criminal prosecution is one thing, you can omit whatever the fuck you want. As a civil servant most shit gets uncovered.

This is why the army has its own judicial system.

>>64166995
The window size of the COA is the fucking same as the acro according to specs

If you want to overpay that badly just buy someone else's, what is this stupidity

>>64167426
>>64167429
I've heard only praise from my range buddies with Caniks

>>64166124
That was literally the ammo you fucking moron

>>64167426
>Mostly because they don't work well.
I've had plenty of people say they work, I have a canik tp9da that I've shot at least a couple thousand rounds out of work very well and I've seen my own brother shoot his without hic up either. I mean I get not liking turky but there comes a point where you or others would rather prioritize their own hatred of something and then put reality on the back burner

I have a DA/SA without a decocker. Should I carry cocked & locked or manually decock it? I've gotten decent enough at manually decocking it without panicking that I'll drop the hammer, but the paranoia is still in the back of my mind.

>>64167629
Just don't go shorting the trigger during single action

>>64167667
Teehee :3

>>64168308
>DA/SA without a decocker
>paranoia
Just carry it condition 03 "Israeli." If it's a revolver, decocked is how that's meant to be carried. Few automatics are DA without a decocker because it this defeats the purpose

>>64166695
Have you stopped beating your wife?

>>64168356
>Just carry it condition 03 "Israeli."
No.

>>64168418
Then you had best get right with double action the first round, bucko

Schizo pastebin shitting up things again after he said he'd stop.

>>64167442
NTA but these look cool. What's the consensus on the Taurus GX4? The GX4 Carry looks pretty attractive to me rn

>>64168356
>Just don't go shorting the trigger during single action

That’s a feature, not a bug.

>>64167682
>>64167662
It's cool that yall have had good expirences. I'm happy to hear it. The canik owners I know that like their's don't shoot them more than 2-3 times a year. The masada, Taurus, and APX owners I've met DO shoot them regularly and haven't had reliability issues.

>>64167682
Weird that you would tell me I'm putting reality on the backburner when I'm the only one even posting pictures to prove I've shot a canik, and that it had issues.

>>64168558
I shot one at the same rental range I shot the canik at and it was so good I just bought one for $193 on gun.deals.

From what I could tell online they launched with an issue where some of them had dead triggers every shot. Taurus RMAd all of them no questions asked and fixed the issue in current guns, but the rental range model I used did have this issue, which was ironic because the trigger was shockingly good despite being the failure point. I brought it back and told them and they just went "yeah we know. So you wana leave orrrr". Worst rental range I've ever been to. Actual gun owners would just send it back for quick service with a free shipping label. I don't hold recalls against companies if they handle them well and the issues at launch. I do care if they have known issues and never alter the design or fix them.

>>64168576
One last malfunction post because what the hell why not. This round didn't fire at all, got a dead trigger half way through the mag and when I opened the slide there wasn't even a primer strike and the round didn't extract either. Fucking WEIRD issue, not sure if that was ammo (S&B 115) related or gun related, but given this was the fourth malfunction in just one mag with this gun I blame the gun.

>>64166695
hahahaha nigger you are allowed to lie as part of your job get the fuck outta here

>>64168606
That’s what he said

>>64168576
>>64168588
>>64168600
You took these pictures in fucking january, don't talk about barely going out to the range

>>64168719
Yeah I actually don't ever shoot at all, you caught me. By the way, I just happened to notice everyone defending caniks hasn't posted a group or even a pic of their gun. Curious!

>>64168464
Nothing wrong with a little bit of fun posting :3c

>>64168740
>>64168719
Hows the barrel finish wear on that canik? Here is mine after 14-16k rounds without a single gun related failure in my FN 509c.

>>64168308
If it has a safety, then use the safety. You have to train deactivating the safety even if you're not using it because it could get activated while carrying it, so just carry it cocked and on safe.

>>64168772
How long have you had it? I'm impressed by your devotion, I feel like I havent found a gun i'm satisfied with

>>64168959
I bought it october of 2023? I think? Then it was at the cerakoter for a couple months while I was in Australia and Indonesia, and then I really started shooting it and practicing draws, maybe 2k rounds a month or more while I lived with my buddy when I was inbetween contracts since he has a gun range on his property. I really like it man, shoots great and fits my hands perfectly.

>>64163436 (OP)
SHOT THROUGH THE HEEART, AND YOU'RE TO BLAAAAME

Caleb Giddings bros… is this the end of the road?

>>64169068
I was just shocked to learn Taurus has a team. While im sure the best shooters in the world can be competitive with any gun none of the rest of us look at taurus and think "race gun". Why even advertise to that market if you have nothing to offer them?

>>64168566
>t. Colt rep

>>64168600
>dead trigger
>opened the slide
>there wasn't even a primer strike
Seems the extractor didn't catch after the previous round so either the cartridge was particularly out of spec or the pistol itself faulty

>>64169044
Careful, one of the Dicksword anons will have a melty over you shooting the model silhouette
>least amount of points for upper CNS hits
Kek, fuck the NRA scoring guide

>64169192
> one of the Dicksword anons
An accusation is a confession

There is no hg discord, but at times this place has been raided by arg trannies like yourself

>>64169192
Go back to /arg/ you fucking mongoloid.

>>64169192
Seems to check out with the other extractor issues the gun had. It grouped pretty good for me just like the taurus but the grip definitely was WAY too slippy for my taste.

i bought an M9A4 just letting you guys know thanks

>>64169233
Nice

>>64169216
How far out were you shooting, anon: 7/10/15 yards?
>grip definitely was WAY too slippy
That's precisely why I've grown to love the finger groves and aggressive texture on my Glock brand Glockazine. They also serve as a hint to the particular way P80's are supposed to be gripped and stanced with. The trick is all in the wrist and thumbs!

>>64169213
Shooting the miniature silhouette is both a fun challenge and a protest against the NRA's bullshit score guide. Get over it

>>64169195
You DM each other if not IM on whatever mutual channel or server you're in

>>64169304
This target is so fucking funny

Can you retards stop responding to this trolling faggot? ffs

>>64169350
For clarification, the miniature silhouette is my target. The one riddled with Bravos and Charlies was from pic rel. I warned her that the DOE Reduced isn't meant to be shot beyond seven yards but she wanted to challenge herself

Are low bore revolvers just directly superior to their high bore counterparts?
Is there a downside to having the recoil push the gun into your palm, rather than over?

>>64169418
Trying to summon the blown up chippa poster?

Path of least resistance in a squib or other event is your finger, the chiappas a few of the models are alloy instead of steel

Otherwise it is superior, the Mateba revolvers are much thicker and over built compared to that revolver.

>>64169418
>Is there a downside to having the recoil push the gun into your palm, rather than over?
Yeah Chiappa didn't fogure anything out centuries of gun designers didn't think of, the other guys just decided it was a bad idea due to the safety risk.

>>64169430
>>64169418
And here we have a pic of what happens to traditional revolver with the same exact issue.

>>64169426
Cool.
>>64169430
>>64169432
...Why does this happen?

>>64169463
Oops! All Powder

>>64163436 (OP)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20250003709A1/en?assignee=Carl+Walther+GmbH&oq=Carl+Walther+GmbH&sort=new
Found this CZ patent while looking for more info on the walther micro

>>64169418
You buy a Chiappa because it looks cool, otherwise you get a Smith Performance/Python or a Kohr if you're extra loaded

>>64169463
Bubba hot spicy loads

>>64169430
the chiappa explode in 60 quintillions pieces because it's all filmsy trash, just look at the broken part above the trigger guard and see how grainy it is, it's not even a milled piece it's a fucking steel mold injection build, it's a taurus with a different name

>>64169617
One day the R8 will be mine

>>64169044
Fucking based, and checked
What distance?

>TFW we should bring back 2017 /hg/ and shoot the FBI qual that killed 10mm

>>64169680
Printable target

>>64167629
>Yamaha Natural Sound
Based sound enjoyer. They're the only major electronics company still even attempting to make this stuff.

>>64169686
I’ll do it next Saturday and start the collage if I have to

>>64169702
Based, I'll shoot it again, my sights weren't zeroed and my 1911 wasn't finished when I shot it a few days ago

>>64169701
Really? I have two of them now. One for my home TV/Vidya and one for my desktop. Desktop one is going on 7 years now strong. Simple, sounds amazing and isn't too expensive.

>>64163456
>>64163493
Are you taking your finger completely off the trigger between shots???

>>64169747
Looks like he does it between strings

>>64169747
Yes, but only when shooting more aggressively. Slow fire I just do whatever

I had trouble properly resetting the trigger when my hand tenses up, I couldn’t even shoot 5 rounds as fast as I could since my finger would not reset the trigger under recoil. so I compensate by coming completely off the trigger, I didn’t realize I was doing it without recording myself

I some other webms where I catch myself doing it more obviously

Apparently comps can impact small grain bullets accuracy? Anyone know anyway to correct this issue

>>64169809
No as the comp gas redirection pushes the bullets around IIRC if the “expansion chamber” is bad

Shouldn’t be that bad

>>64169809
Take the comp off, find ammo that works for your comp.

>>64169821
My 80gr ammo was getting pretty wild accuracy deviations. Kinda annoying. The comp is so damn effective but now I’ll need to switch all my carry ammo

>>64164696
>>proprietary rail
wut? I got a 507k off amazon and bolted it right on.

>>64164687
>>"modular tho" <- only matters to people who need a permit for every new gun
Here's my setup. I build it as an XL for most of the year. It's a great compact size, and I like the manual safety.

For a small extra price, I build it as a macro for winter months. The macro is a bit too big for me to carry in the summer, but find with a jacket in winter ...plus it gets dark early and now I have a light.

IMO that's a great use-case.
I like the gun enough that I built out a second one with a comp and a dot which is ....okay I guess. I also just got the mystery machine aluminum macro grip, which is pretty awesome

Full disclosure: I haven't fired a hellcat but they have a loaner at my range so I'm gonna.

>>64169837
Is that the mischief machine grip? I tried finger fucking an icarus precision frame in a store over the weekend and regret to inform you they're tremendous and may actually be worth the money.

The hellcats are all fine, not really good not bad like some microcompacts. I found my accuracy didn't improve with the xl or xl comp version so if you do get the hellcat the standard microcompact is going to get you the same performance or near about in a smaller package and price tag.

Just a heads up, if you carry with a winter jacket please practice draws with it. I was VERY unnerved to find that my draw caught on my jacket basically every time with my regular draw and I had to modify the way I did it.

>>64169664
>What distance?
7yds with moms g43

Compensator on a carry gun yes or no?
How much more obnoxious is it?
I can get a wadian wamjet for 330 shipped and am tempted

>>64169991
>Compensator on a carry gun yes or no?
No, they're gay
>How much more gay is it?
Very

>>64169959
>Is that the mischief machine grip?
yep. The commander grip, gen 2. Sig Grey cerakote. $375 (nothing sig is cheap. If money was an issue, I'd get a hellcat)

>they're tremendous and may actually be worth the money.
I hope so. I haven't had a chance to go to the range yet.

>The hellcats are all fine
I don't think I've ever heard anything bad about them.

>if you carry with a winter jacket please practice draws with it
Good tip, thanks. Will do.

>>64169991
Comps and lasers on guns look cool but are relatively useless. Red dots look gay but are essentially the future of handguns.

>>64170017
>Comps and lasers on guns look cool but are relatively useless.
Care to expand on these? Does this also apply to rifles, or just to pistols?

>>64169664
>>64169680
Irons only? All on 1 target?

>>64170188
Checked, would have been funny if you posted one of the walthers

All on one B-8 target. Either full size, repair center, or >>64169686 printable (just print on standard 8.5x11 at 100% scale)
Any pistol you want, but an OG FBI style would be sick, I should use my 5903tsw

>>64170188
I think there should be an irons and red dot class. Or punish red dot misses harder or have shorter courses of fire.

I was thinking anons should take a photo of each stage separately or shoot 3 targets if they wish.

>>64170204
Let's keep it simple since getting people to participate will already be like pulling teeth.
I'd say one target for ease of collage/posting and mark your 25yd hits with circles or triangles or something with a sharpie

>>64170199
Wish I saw it a few hours ago, I just went shootan today

>>64170002
Hows the MM frame? Comfortable? Does it feel like a 1911? May get one for the GX4 if that thing ever gets here

>>64170230
Mother fucker you live at the range lol, just do it at lunch tomorrow my dude.

>>64170225
I agree anons should submit only one target for the collage.

I had an idea where you can print 4 pieces of paper and paste two on top of each other in the beginning. Shoot the first stage, replace the front one, shoot the next, replace the front one, etc. where the rear target tracks all hits and the front one tracks each stage separately.

Sorry, I love metrics.

>>64170394
That's a totally elegant solution if anyone wants to do it, hell yeah.

>>64170401
The only difficulty would be having the two targets perfectly on top of each other to “carbon copy” hits.

>>64170410
It's printer paper, shouldn't be too hard

Do people really buy used guns?

>>64170442
You're a retard if you don't

>>64170445
You sound poor. The only used guns I would buy are the ones not currently being produced

>>64170457
>You sound poor
Oh absolutely, after all these guns I barely had bus fare for your mom this morning

>>64170457
>buy 2 new guns
Or
>buy 3 guns for less
Poor stay poor by spending like they're rich. But if you spend like you're poor and invest, that's how you get rich. And you sir, have a poorfag mentality.

>>64170479
stacklet kek
>>64170469
my mom has never taken the bus before because my family (and me) are wealthy

>>64170510
Talk is cheap. Post stack

>>64170518
Spots on Deagle?

Guys. What DASA gun would you carry as a biking/jogging gun? Something that you wouldn't care if it was lost to evidence post self defense? No subcompacts.

>>64170537
3d scanner plotting points

>>64170510
I'm glad I could fund your comfortable lifestyle through your mother's paid promiscuity.

>>64170551
SP101 or model 642

>>64170551
S&W 3913/3914, one of the thinnest DA/SAs ever made. Surplus ones are cheap when they show up. I would also say whatever cheap DAO smith you can get as well.

I can jog with my PX4 compact in an enigma rig, but I’m wearing jeans with a belt which has more retention then just a normal holster. Look at Phlster rig, since you likely aren’t going to wear a belt when jogging.

>>64170551
p2000

>>64170469
>>64170479
>>64170498
>>64170515
>>64170518
>>64170604
You know someone is poor when they think photographing their curated little trinket collection together and sometimes even including a snarky note is some type of gotcha. Have fun buying your used guns

Nothing wrong with being poor.

>>64170652
Lol, noguns little butthurt bitch

>>64170652
I also sometimes shoot them.

>>64170673
No, there isn't. I understand why someone strapped for cash would buy used.
>>64170674
I have 2 pistols and an AR-15.

>>64163898
Based Sig Chad alert! All P220’s? Is the one with green G10’s their “FDE” or custom pick?

>>64170680
I'm sure you do, /k/id
Rule 32 though
>>64170700
>custom
Custom.

I like the idea of posting our FBI results. I'm going to the range tomorrow, will post after.

>>64170680
>I have 2 pistols and an AR-15.

>>64170724
how's .45 in that small a package?

>>64170731
Without the Hogue grip sleve it makes my hands feel like hitting a baseball hard with an aluminum bat after 2 mags. With it I can shoot all day. Definitely slower fallow-up shots but I don't loose much velocity with the short barrel.

If you're new to shooting, should you get a longer or shorter barrel? What's considered "longer" anyway?

>>64170755
I'd get a G34 or similar sized gun in 9mm or .22lr

>buying a 638 on layaway
>find out the LCR comes in 9mm
>instant buyer's remorse
Did I fuck up bros?
>inb4 "yes, should've bought a .357 instead"-- I'm not overpen'ing into someone's apartment to appease you for the memes
>I have a Model 19 anyway

>>64170724
Is rule 32 some sort of code for your foodstamps? Not sure how all that works
>>64170727
I've posted them many times on here.

>>64170783
I had a LCR in 9mm, I bought it used to be fair.

It grouped solidly 1 foot up and 6 inches to the left at 7-10 yards. Bent Moon clips would jam the gun

Recoil was extremely uncomfortable despite the steel “frame”, I think it may be because I was new to guns but I didn’t think the .44 magnum I bought was that bad (big rubber hogues though)

Listed it for 400 and it sold instantly and I feel bad for whoever bought it

>>64170810
My groups were 10 inches at 10 yards and up to the left*

DA trigger felt good though

>>64170799
Brother, you got fucking obliterated, just give it a rest.

>>64170799
>rule 32
Pics or it didn't happen
Newfag scum
GTFO noguns

>>64170783
imagine considering an LCR because of irrelevant things such as "performance" or "groups" or "recoil" or "handling" and not because its fucking cool

>>64170828
True

>>64170828
Needs LEDs in the grip

>>64170799
>SAAR I PROMISE I HAVE POSTED THE GUNS MULTI TIME

>>64170825
>you got fucking obliterated
I was just pointing out that people with money don't buy used guns that are still produced. Do you actually want to respond to that?
>>64170826
>>64170845

>>64170856
Oh it’s Glock troon/pastebin

lol, blown out

>>64170865
It's always him

>>64170856
No one cares about your fagass vanilla G17. It's not even Austrian it's made by rednecks and pavement apes in Georgia.

>>64170856
This is just sad.

>>64170457
You don't own any guns.

Still no response I see

>>64163540
Does your dad know you're gay

>>64164280
Not enough

>>64170828
The perfect ankle holster gun

>>64170551
APX compact
>but
Stfu

>>64170856
>Your new gun
Poor
>My new gun
German

We are not the same

>>64164785
Mon frere you should save for a MR73 and be grateful to Bon Dieu that you can get one

>>64170979
Is that a cat mob? How do you like it? Also who milled that slide?

>>64170989
Yes, love it, doesn't heat up as fast as they say. Langdon and they FUCKED it up.
Plate didn't even fit in the cut, they sent it to me half mounted. Sent it back, they returned it with so much durakote or whatever in the slide rails the fucking slide didn't fit on the frame rails anymore.
Fuck Langdon, they can't into HK
Have Wright Armory do it.

>>64171002
Fucking brutal. I need to get my P30 cut at some point.

>>64171086
>>64171086
>>64171086
>>64171086
new thread

>>64170199
Fug I love a good 3rd gen. Will likely shoot it with one of my smiths

>>64169418
perhaps the trigger group is a little more convoluted

>>64170918
What optic /what happened?

>>64170652
>>64170457


Post most expensive gun with time stamp