>>64168853 (OP)
These are what I carry.
>hollowpoint gets clogged with clothing
>short barrel length of carry pistol means lower velocity from factory design (likely a full size pistol with 5β barrel) and hollowpoint wonβt expand
>shoot the hollowpoint too fast and it will over expand or fragment and therefore have shallow penetration
These take all of that out of the equation
>>64168897
Only issue is they are supersonic and if loaded subsonic you really need something heavier. But if you are shooting subsonic you should really just be shooting a 45acp anyway (if not 380 or a 32).