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Anonymous No.64173050 >>64173135 >>64173227 >>64173244 >>64173268 >>64174752 >>64174817 >>64175304 >>64175323 >>64175394 >>64175407 >>64175649 >>64175659 >>64175723 >>64176468 >>64179975 >>64180143 >>64183150
New warfare meta
Bogs are better than fortifications for deterring Russia
https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-defense-kyiv-ukraine-nato-eu-bogs-poland-war-germany/
Anonymous No.64173110 >>64173164 >>64179975 >>64183177
>he invaded?
Anonymous No.64173135 >>64173354
>>64173050 (OP)
>New
>Has been known since the earliest recorded histories that it's annoying to march an army through a fucking swamp
Anonymous No.64173164 >>64179975 >>64183175
>>64173110
>now pump ze sanctions
>he retreated
>pause ze sanctions
>he attacked ze dip
>put him to sleep, then reapply ze sanctions
>he ordered a ceasefire
>suspend aid and talk about ze peace treaty
>he relaunched de offensive
>now pump ze aid
Anonymous No.64173188
https://youtu.be/Q3hBLv-HLEc?t=6872
Anonymous No.64173227
>>64173050 (OP)
>New
Anonymous No.64173244 >>64173354
>>64173050 (OP)
>avoiding swamps is new military meta
Anonymous No.64173253
>meta
Anonymous No.64173268 >>64173354 >>64173840
>>64173050 (OP)
>bogs
>new
>meta
fucking tourists
Anonymous No.64173354 >>64173361 >>64173364 >>64173373 >>64173795 >>64173951 >>64174735 >>64174861 >>64175389 >>64175486 >>64175653 >>64175670 >>64175678
>>64173268
>>64173244
>>64173135
Meanwhile there are plenty of records of armies using water as a defensive barrier this is the first time in which some someone is building swamps next to the borders to deter an invasion
Anonymous No.64173361
>>64173354
Or they could use landmines. Or just get off their collective ass and dismantle an aggressor state run by a death cult.
Anonymous No.64173364 >>64174730
>>64173354
Earthworks are literally one of the oldest forms of fortification. This isn't a breakthrough.
Anonymous No.64173373 >>64174730
>>64173354
>first time in which some someone is building swamps next to the borders to deter an invasion
Breaking dams does this
Anonymous No.64173795
>>64173354
people have been breaking or building dams to artificially construct wetlands to work against the enemy for ages
Anonymous No.64173840
>>64173268
negative aura post
Anonymous No.64173951 >>64174730
>>64173354

> this is the first time in which some someone is building swamps next to the borders to deter an invasion
Anonymous No.64174730 >>64174738 >>64174783
>>64173364
>>64173373
>>64173951
That's no earthwork or planned flooding, those are new technologies built for enviromental restorations
Anonymous No.64174735
>>64173354
The Dutch did this all the time
Anonymous No.64174738 >>64174746
>>64174730
>creating an artificial bog won't require earthworks or planned flooding
Anonymous No.64174746 >>64174755 >>64175654
>>64174738
It requires way more than that, you are also supposed to reintroduce animal and plants, shape new waterways being able also lot's of biotech to make the habitat sustainable
Anonymous No.64174752
>>64173050 (OP)
>Bobr-Maxxing
Anonymous No.64174755 >>64174770
>>64174746
>shape new waterways
yeah that's done by earthworks and causes planned flooding
Anonymous No.64174765
Maintaining water in an artificial wetland can be difficult. Even creating a small pond requires a non-permeable clay foundation and a waterproof sheet.
Anonymous No.64174770 >>64174783
>>64174755
You also forgot to put stuff like the reintroduction of green mosses in it
Anonymous No.64174783 >>64174794
>>64174770
That doesn't mean those are disregarded. >>64174730 claims that there would be no earthwork or planned flooding. Is there earthworks or planned flooding or not?
Anonymous No.64174794
>>64174783
It's like comparing precision engineering with with being a craftman
Anonymous No.64174817
>>64173050 (OP)
bogs have reeds in them
do you know who lives there?
reed people.
Anonymous No.64174861
>>64173354
There was literally some Dutch dude nicknamed the "Swamp Dragon"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUmJYL6UY8M
Anonymous No.64175118
What would the Iraq War have been like if Saddam hadn't drained the swamps?
Anonymous No.64175127
>vulnerable to Boris Johnson
Anonymous No.64175179 >>64175279 >>64175426
>all your bogs right here
>in my face
Anonymous No.64175279 >>64175426
>>64175179
Anonymous No.64175304
>>64173050 (OP)
Bogs are difficult to get through? Shit, how long have you been sitting on this information?
Anonymous No.64175323
>>64173050 (OP)
I support this initiate because when not at war the bogs will attract and support vast amounts of native wildlife, particularly birds
Anonymous No.64175389
>>64173354
Anonymous No.64175394
>>64173050 (OP)
reminder that shrubs defeated ukies in the 2023 counter-offensyiv
Anonymous No.64175407 >>64175531
>>64173050 (OP)
>Healthy peatlands serve as havens for wildlife: Frogs, snails, dragonflies and specialized plant species thrive in the austere conditions of bogs, while rare birds stop by to nest. They also act as barriers to droughts and wildfires, boosting Europe’s resilience to climate change.
How romantic, now also imagine happy little floating ziggers...
Anonymous No.64175426 >>64175434
>>64175179
>>64175279
Age hits like a sack of bricks, gonna happen to all of us. My dad wishes he was my age with my looks. In 30 years I'll wish I was still my age.
Who fucking cares.
Anonymous No.64175429 >>64175578 >>64175694
Humans have long viewed it as a duty of civilization to clear and drain all the wetlands, if just to keep the mosquitos down, but it's a tragedy for ecological diversity.
Swamps are bogs that can support trees and marshes are ones that cannot.
Anonymous No.64175434
>>64175426
It's one thing to mock a man for naturally balding, but it's another to mock him for wearing a ridiculous comb-over/toupee to try to hide it, or the plastic surgery equivalent.
Anonymous No.64175486 >>64175694
>>64173354
>this is the first time in which some someone is building swamps next to the borders to deter an invasion
Anonymous No.64175531
>>64175407
>β€œYes, yes,” said Gollum. β€œAll dead, all rotten. Elves and Men and Orcs. The Dead Marshes. There was a great battle long ago, yes, so they told him when Smeagol was young, when I was young before the Precious came. It was a great battle. Tall Men with long swords, and terrible Elves, and Orcses shrieking. They fought on the plain for days and months at the Black Gates. But the Marshes have grown since then, swallowed up the graves; always creeping, creeping.”
Anonymous No.64175578 >>64175597
>>64175429
But mosquitoes are horrible, and it would be intolerable to have malaria and yellow fever endemic areas near Rome and the eastern metropolises.
Anonymous No.64175597 >>64175700
>>64175578
Horrible as the mozziesey are, they are also highly effective pollinators and a critical pillar upon which much of the food chain rests
Anonymous No.64175649
>>64173050 (OP)
PERFIDIOUS REED PEOPLE
Anonymous No.64175653 >>64176241
>>64173354
The Germans blew dykes less than 100 years ago.
Anonymous No.64175654 >>64179984
>>64174746
Anonymous No.64175659 >>64175663
>>64173050 (OP)

Pretty good for deterring ZOG too
Anonymous No.64175663 >>64176511
>>64175659
Was the vehicle not recovered?
Anonymous No.64175670
>>64173354
>someone is building swamps next to the borders to deter an invasion
you don't need to build marshlands, area North of Kyiv is NATURAL marshland
Anonymous No.64175678
>>64173354
>this is the first time in which some someone is building swamps next to the borders to deter an invasion
>what are moats
Anonymous No.64175694
>>64175486
>>64175429
Durin the fourth crusade Venice billeted the rowdy crusaders on a swampy malaria ripe island which increased the Venetians bargaining power and leverage in the face of crusade negotiation with the Franks in a time where marching armies were a porous and naked threat to anyone
Anonymous No.64175700
>>64175597
>Horrible as the mozziesey are, they are also highly effective pollinators and a critical pillar upon which much of the food chain rests
Anonymous No.64175722
>actual bogposting
Okay here's my Β£0.02
One of the last (if not THE last) Welsh fortresses to fall was surrounded by marshland and only accessible by one path in and out, and also by a moat and drawbridge, which pretty much wiped out any besieging force. It was basically impregnable. I can't remember its name.

GRRM's Greywater Watch is likely based on this castle.
Anonymous No.64175723
>>64173050 (OP)
>new
kys

it's just nations reverting their swamplands back to their natural state because it has stopped russians countless times throughout history and prehistory.
Anonymous No.64176241
>>64175653
I wish I could blow a dyke
Anonymous No.64176468 >>64176578
>>64173050 (OP)
I don't think any army that would willingly attack through terrain that just straight up eats some people and the vehicles carrying their supplies, whilst giving the vast majority horrific diseases and leaving every single one of them mentally and physically exhausted if there's a better option available.

And that's if they manage to make it out of there in a single day.

I honestly think swamps are worse to deal with than jungles are, because at least you have a chance of finding food in the jungle and you can reliably be sure about the condition of the ground your treading on, unlike with a swamp where that innocuous lump of grass could be a solid clump of dryish land or it could be an inch of dryish crust that's concealing a 6ft deep quagmire.
You don't even get a break from the bugs when you're moving through one in summer and the bastard things seem to have a thing about biting you on your ankles and other places you have to keep covered up, so the bites end up turning into sores from the constant chafing and lack of air, because if you give them the air and clearance they need, the bugs just start biting you there again.
Anonymous No.64176511
>>64175663
It was, but not sure if they found the missing body.
Anonymous No.64176578 >>64176582 >>64176768
>>64176468
>I don't think any army that would willingly attack through terrain that just straight up eats some people and the vehicles carrying their supplies, whilst giving the vast majority horrific diseases and leaving every single one of them mentally and physically exhausted if there's a better option available.
Anonymous No.64176582
>>64176578
>"Gerasimov"
>"Stop it..."
Anonymous No.64176768
>>64176578
Sounds like someone's voluntolding for an AIR DROP!
>Regs will be in to relieve you in a couple of hours, it'll be easy
>They probably won't even fight
>Some guys we know... got it all sorted out!
Anonymous No.64177035 >>64179995
>Not having mosquitos or mangroves and palms
The seminoles went down into the Everglades and the union army had to leave because they could not handle the estuary and swamps due to mosquitos
Anonymous No.64179975
>>64173050 (OP)
>>64173110
>>64173164

BOGGED
Anonymous No.64179980
that's ok
Anonymous No.64179984
>>64175654
Once again we call upon him.
Anonymous No.64179995
>>64177035
>union army

The Seminole Wars came to an end three years prior to the Civil War (the Union Army only operated between 1861 and 1865 and then promptly reverted to being the United States Army) and the Seminole bands still active in Florida mostly opted to sit out the war (their cousins who had been forcibly resettled elsewhere took up arms for both the Union and the Confederacy).
Anonymous No.64180143
>>64173050 (OP)
>bog
QRD?
Anonymous No.64183150
>>64173050 (OP)
>be Denmark in 1864
>DenmarkToTheEider.mp4
>go to war with Prussia
>Station troops in Dannevirke, a giant fortress with an inlet to the east, and massive swamplands to the west
>expect Prussia to attack in the summer, when the swamps are wet and the mosquitos are out
>Prussia instead attacks in the winter
>when the swamplands are completely frozen
>force to retreat from one of the biggest fortifications in all of Europe, because of a weather season
>pic related
Anonymous No.64183175
>>64173164
>Activate Crab-25
Anonymous No.64183177
>>64173110
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