Thread 64173873

it feels like the meta has been discovered and will now just be replicated until something changes.

Doesn't the need for gideon's chariot 2 suggest gideon's chariot 1 was not, in fact, successful?

>>64173901
no since it was geographically limited, now what worked in the south will be replicated in the north

>>64173873 (OP)
How many palis are going to die?

>>64174000
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bjvoh36vlx
>Gideon's chariots ends without achieving main goals
Interesting definition of success you have.

>>64174103
the goal is winning the war . it succeed in that it did win the battle in the region's where gideon's chariots happened

the general idea is a war is made up of multiple battles the goal of all battles is to win the war but they cant do that individually.

>>64174103
>gideons chariot launched to conquer and displace 75% of Gaza
>israel conquers and displaces 75% of Gaza (with 30 KIA)
>it’s a failure because Hamas still has 10 hostages and the UN is crying

>>64174240
its kind of a 'low hanging fruit' approach where they took the stuff thats easier to take.

what i dont get is why they have this giant break between the end of the first operation and the second one why not keep up momentum. it's like the government is half assing it expecting the war to just end on i'ts own not giving the army it's next orders after they finish the current task

>with billions of dollars worth of military aid you can starve out and carpet bomb civilians

woah... so this... is the power... of zionism...

>>64176069
>with billions of dollars worth of humanitarian aid you can starve out and mass execute your own civilians

>>64175870
Politics. Trump is better for Israel than Kamala was but he still pressured Bibi to only do a limited scope operation to pressure Hamas to a working ceasefire agreement. But Europeans chimping out emboldened Hamas again and they got stubborn and let the Palestinians pay the price. So this was plan B and trump approved it

>>64173873 (OP)
I'm sure they will deliberately kill even more civilians. Putin tier.

>>64176472
>plan B
Sorry, I havent been paying attention since iran got smacked like a bitch. What are the jews up to now?

>>64176489
Oh just the usual crimes against humanity: ethnic cleansing, forced displacement, weaponizing food delivery, bulldozing Christian settlements, killing journalists and playing the Holohoax card.

Keep in mind that Israel was settled by Jewish collaborators of the Nazi regime who surviced and fled Poland.

>>64173873 (OP)
if you need renaming then it already failed.

>>64175870
>what i dont get is why they have this giant break between the end of the first operation and the second one why not keep up momentum.
It's political, as >>64176472 mentioned there's international pressure to force Israel into a "peaceful" resolution, ignoring the fact that peace with people who don't believe in peace is impossible and the policy of the last twenty years has been a failure. Domestically, there's protests and discontent with the current administration and the coalition controlling Israel's parliament just survived an attempt to dissolve its majority.
Additionally, taking reservists from their workplaces and allocating resources to another push comes with economic costs and logistical complications.
Not that this really matters all that much when the enemy is besieged and you can rinse and repeat
>>64174151
Don't worry about the concern trolls, they need to demoralize Westerners after they watched their vaunted Axis of Resistance get spanked

>>64176568
I was hoping for actual operations, not just leftoid screeching.

>>64176568
That's plan Zyklon B, they're not quite there yet.

>>64176658
It's literally just shooting civilians.
Did you ever see a Palestinian army, with mechanized forces, artillery corps, engineering troops etc engaging in peer warfare?

They just roll into some ruins and start shooting orphans because that's all there is.

>>64176668
So you admit hamas is a terrorist organization.

>>64176668
Hamas should probably surrender like every single arab association in the region tells them too then. I member oct7th when pali shills were here saying its over for israel once hamas/hezbollah/iran come knocking. Sucks to be a pali, but this is the government you got and every moment you don't give up the genocidal fantasists in it, you get to deal with the consequences.

But for real, is this a new stage of ops? Or is it just long term policing of the occupied state?

>>64176668
As long as they’re posting videos of sniping IDF soldiers and placing bombs in vehicles, they aren’t civilians. They’re combatants hiding among civilians.

>>64176680
There's no such thing as Hamas.

>>64176694
What do you mean?
When Poland was occupied by Nazi Germany we could only fight them by means of terrorism: acts of sabotage, assasinations, poisonings and slitting throats.
The Palestinians are absolutely justified.

>>64176708
Did they all get killed or is this the new cope?
>noooo there never was a virile bronze age islamic warrior noooo

>>64176713
>we

>>64176713
So they’re combatants….

>>64176716
Arned Hamas was a small police force, the Jews know this because they funded Hamas for decades.

>>64176741
sure did have a lot of paragliders and hostages for a totally righteous popo force kek

>>64174098
1 billion paliglets will have their asses blown out and their pics posted at /pol/estine by people who got denied credit card by da joos, this seethe in turn will get collected to power up the new jew machine gun operator fembots energy core.

>>64176786
>oy vey, none of these words are in the torah

>>64176741
And they're going to fix that mistake, the Goblin Slayer way. Fuck Palestine, all hail Israel.

>>64176658
There are no operations. The IDF has no fucking idea what its doing. They have no intelligence, no target list, fucking nothing. All the IDF does is drive around the same towns they've already drove around for literal years, blow up empty civilian infrastructure because terrorist army, and occasionally get blown up by an IED or get their chest vaporized by a 50 cal. IDF fans try to claim that the IDF has been "restrained" (lmao) but its simply that they are totally dogshit at COIN and can't come up with any plan to actually defeat Hamas.

There's a reason why they aren't posting le operator go pro footage, they have fucking nothing, and that's why this operation will end in failure like every one before.

>>64176946
On the contrary, they're getting results, but because everyone's screeching 'GENOCIDE!' at anything they do, they see no reason to show anything.

Damn, jews are really bloodthirsty

>>64176946
>not leftoid screeching
>responds with leftoid screeching
I doubt literally everything you say

>>64176966
>2 years into fighting a small guerrilla force in a permanently closed in area the size of Chicago
>Hamas still has prisoners
>Hamas still smoking IDF soldiers
>Hamas still growing
>Get results
Uh huh, sure, I'm sure IDF super soldiers are carrying out daily raids on top secret Hamas super bases and they just aren't releasing footage for some reason. In a purely military and weapons point of view, people screech genocide because your elected leaders, military personal, and general populace all constantly and happily espouse genocidal rhetoric while your fabulously overfunded conscript army can't achieve jackshit despite the constant infusion of our tax money.

>>64176986
I'll dumb it down then.
IDF bad at fighting.
IDF can't defeat Hamas.
IDF only fighting to keep Bibi out of prison.
War will continue to keep Bibi out of prison.

>>64176946
Are we supposed to be demoralized or something? You sound like you are very butthurt you can't deal with some funny jews jewing in a strip of desert. I mean, 80 or so years of failures despite 1 billion (2 billion if you count the late and unlamented Vatnik Block) in numerical superiority, any lack of restrain at war and western homosexual promoting media supporting (you) may make you a bit upset.
I will tell you what, maybe if you start behaving we may give you a credit line or something, you sound like you desperately need it, yup?

>>64176996
>>Hamas still growing
So no reason to stop the fight, good we agree on something.

>>64177004
I'm sorry Anon, you seem to be lost. If you want to discuss the history of the region please head over to the /his/ board. This is the military and weapons board so please keep the discussion focused on military and weapons.

I'm more than willing to discuss the near total failure of the IDF in COIN or make comparisons to how Iranian backed Shia militias in Iraq succeeded in COIN against a much stronger ISIS while Israel can't against Hamas.

>>64176996
Man, iran and hezbollah must be really bad at fighting to lose to them then

>>64177043
>Listing out two enemies that Israel begged for a ceasefire from and failed to achieve nearly all their objectives
>Victories

>>64173873 (OP)
>>64174845
>>64174851
>>64174855
>>64176653
>>64176986

Fuck off, shill. Everyone sees you. When your "threads" consist of 50% of your own butt blasted replies it means you've lost the propaganda war. That's literally your only job and you failed at it. /k/ is probably the easiest board to propagandize but Israel is so vile nobody except senile boomers still defend them.

I didn't used to like Hamas but now I think they're kinda based just for hanging on so long. I remember thinking that October 7th was one of the most evil attacks imaginable until I found out how much you faggots lied to make it seem worse than it was, and how you kinda deserved it in retrospect because Israel has done stuff that's much, much worse. Most Americans want to believe that Israel is justified but you keep slaughtering women and children in the most cowardly way possible, and when it happens time and time again and it's clearly avoidable, and when you scream antisemitism every time and unironically claim to be the most moral army in the world while siphoning our tax money, well, it doesn't really leave the best impression.

Enjoy your forever war and the slow drain of US support from behind your parasite country until it finally fractures. How you can be losing a war with absolute numerical, technological, and material superiority and needing to resort to ethnic cleansing is beyond me but it definitely makes you guys look like cowardly scumbags.

You're both two sides of the same disgusting sand nigger coin tbqh

And the Israeli pedophile gets to go back to Israel scot free, who would've thunk it?

Hey, anyone else notice that Israeli citizens are a higher class of citizen in America than US citizens are? Why is that? Do they put on Israeli passports that they get to rape American kids? It would explain why Israel has the most lenient pedophilia laws and the highest population of pedophiles of any modern country.

Wow, murdering a starving child for the crime of getting food. Very heroic. Very moral. One more terrorist down. All in a day's work

FYI I will ruin every single one of these threads for everyone involved, until they stop letting blatant shills post here.

>>64173873 (OP)
that doesn't look like proper cover? promo shoot?

>>64176966
>>64176986
>screeching
Why do I assume Anons are immature when they use this word?

Btw a massive number of the dead on October 7th was caused by friendly fire because the Israeli military literally just instinctively kills civilians, even if they're Israeli.

>>64177109
>FYI I will ruin every single one of these threads for everyone involved

Jizzraeli shill thread format
>irrelevant, time wasting question (optional leading question like "will thing 2 be as successful as thing 1?"
>tie it to israel some way or another using image/webm
>spam idf thots in the thread
>screech rabidly about /pol/ to bump limit

>>64177145
>Autistic screeching is not an argument

Agree, not sure why you keep doing it.

>>64174098
It’s never enough.

>>64177130
You know what they say in the KIKEDF about friendly fire:

Lol
Lmao even

>>64177014
No readon to stop financing HUMMUS either.

>>64176757
>Getting rekt by paragliders like in some Roger Moore Bond film schlock.

Kikes fucking suck man.
I'll never not find any excuse to mock their pathetic Zigger-arab faux ethno state.

Worse yet are their "american" seat sniffers.

Imagine supporting Pollak-Arab abominations, jej.

>>64174098

Seeing as a state of famine has formally been declared in Gaza, a lot.

>>64177109
Wait your argument to make me not support Israel is that they kill journalists?

The whole aid restructuring thing really had nothing to do with Hamas stealing it, it was so that they could use food aid as bait and murder the most vulnerable members of a starving population.

Hey, at least the Nazis just exterminated their enemies quickly and efficiently. They didn't take pleasure in watching them suffer and starve while they slowly murdered them. They're toying with their food. Either that or the IDF is too incompetent to even genocide properly.

>>64177463
I despise Americans who support Israel far more than I hate Israel itself. I view it as a form of treason. It's a parasite nation that gives nothing back, if you support sending our wealth overseas to a country that clearly doesn't need or deserve it, you should be publicly executed.

I find it amusing that none of the JIDF bots on /k/ even bother posting the extremely flaccid israeli propaganda that was hosed out to social media after the UN declared that there's a famine in Gaza. No one believed that shit, not even the stooges who shill for israel. It's so contrived and lacking in subtlety that it has "GAZA JULY 2025" plastered on each image.

>>64177549
It is Christians who would chose "faith" over their wife or kid or something also they are all fucking animals

>>64177549
Outside of the Congress and politics there's very few non-Jewish Americans who continue to support Israel. It's pretty much an open secret now that Jews have infiltrated the government, and the people are at a stage where they're negotiating how much Jew dicksucking they can tolerate.

>>64177571
You do not live in the south obviously.

>this thread

Something tells me this didn't go as schlomo thought it would. It's amazing how much the bottom fell out from under the US support for Israel. That war with Iran was a huge mistake. Not only did it not accomplish anything but trying to manipulate Trump into starting a war with Iran created a huge rift in the conservative support base.

Has there ever been another situation when you're banned from speaking out against a foreign government on your own country's soil?

>apologize to Israel or you are expelled

Do Amerigolems really?

>>64177571
I would be far more sympathetic towards palestinians if their crowd wasn't such a bunch of insufferable niggers
>commie
>zigger
>jewish
>thirdworldist
>antiwhite
>eurasianist

>>64177646
>>commie
>>zigger
>>jewish
>>thirdworldist
>>antiwhite
>>eurasianist
so jews?

>>64177571
>there's very few non-Jewish Americans who continue to support Israel
Evangelicals believe that they are literally commanded by God to support Israel in the Bible. They also believe Israel is the only way for the Third Temple to get built and fulfill the requirements for the return of Jesus. They are so rabid about this that they believe it harder than ultra-orthodox jews.

A quarter of American evangelicals answered in polling that they will support Israel no matter what Israel does since it's biblically commanded. It's literal psychosis.

>>64177109
>FYI I will ruin every single one of these threads for everyone involved
Why is that /pol/tards will come to a board, decide they are the final arbiters of what people can discuss there and proceed to throw epic shitfits if the natives disagree? Like I don't go to /tg/ and decide to shit up every WH40K thread because I personally don't like it. I don't go to revolver threads on here and shit them up and demand people stop discussing things. So why do /pol/tards and only /pol/tards do this?
And better question, why do mods and jannies tolerate this behavior from /pol/tards and only /pol/tards?

>>64178105
ass blasted shills that are farmed out to third world shills for pennies.

>>64173873 (OP)
What success? The Israeli army admitted recently that only 8000 Hamas terrorists were killed, the rest were all civilians, a proportion of nearly 6 civs for every dead jihadi. There hasn't been a single success for Israel since the beginning of this war, only more orphans who will one day join Hamas and the Islamic jihad.

>>64176472
>but he still pressured Bibi to only do a limited scope operation
Yeah, I'm sure that the dozens of thousands of dead civilians are the ultimate proof of Trump pressuring Satanyahu to hold back his army of foreskin-eaters.

>>64177571
online leftypol troons are not a representatiive of the population at large

>>64177670
why are russians so dumb? they could just have not started this war on behalf of jews

>>64173873 (OP)
Israel threads should be an instant permaban. We need flags for Israel and Russian IPs.

>>64177646
>other people make my moral compass waver
Pussy

>>64177687
>Continue to support
>Graph from 12 years ago
Lmao

>>64178105
>Why is that /pol/tards will come to a board, decide they are the final arbiters of what people can discuss there and proceed to throw epic shitfits if the natives disagree? Like I don't go to /tg/ and decide to shit up every WH40K thread because I personally don't like it. I don't go to revolver threads on here and shit them up and demand people stop discussing things. So why do /pol/tards and only /pol/tards do this?
/pol/estine shitting up /k/ in support of a bunch of retards who also think they're entitled to shit up a place they don't belong in is peak irony, but /pol/estine lacks any self-awareness and demands your attention because they are desperately trying to twist reality to fit their preconceptions, like how Iran didn't get completely humiliated in 12 days, or that Hamas are winning despite losing all their senior leadership and being forced to hide among civilians or in tunnels. Their cope is a reflection of internal cognitive dissonance and desperation to prove they aren't the gigantic losers everyone else can plainly observe them to be.
>And better question, why do mods and jannies tolerate this behavior from /pol/tards and only /pol/tards?
Pali-janny hard at work, please understand.

>>64177242
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>>64177440
>64177130
>64177030
>64176996
>64176969
>64176795
>64176741
>64176713
>64176668
>64177539
>64177549
>64177557
>64177571
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>64177687
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>64178341
>we’re winning
>help ceasefire now
Lol don’t worry that ceasefire is coming any day now

>>64174098
Don't worry the jews are generously sending them to our countries. Jews rock!

>>64178208
More like 20k now but even 1 Hamas is worth 60k Pali vermin

>>64178687
>the jews
>who fight Arabs
>who need the EU and US to fight Islam
>and therefore need them to be pro-Israeli
>destabilizing the EU and US
>by creating a flood of Muslim migrants
>so that they would not longer be pro-Israeli
>and no longer help Israel to fight Islam
>???
>profit
gee I wonder who could be behind this post

>>64178624
The jannies usually keep /pol/tards in one or two containment threads, usually ones about Israeli equipment, of which some are innocuous and others politically motivated (usually an Israeli OP who want to dunk on /pol/ and/or Palestinians). Every single thread about Israeli weapons devolves into an extremely fruitless and inappropriate geopolitical discussion, and they aren't always started by /pol/tards.
I really dislike this situation. The 'pro-Israeli'/'neutral' side has nothing insightful to contribute; their conversations are just a contest of who can throw around the most obvious truisms. And /pol/tards are... well, /pol/tards.
A large scale crackdown on all /pol/ shit would be unfeasible and not in the spirit of what 4chang has come to be. On principle, observations about this war are allowed even though they're technically off-topic, so /pol/shittery shouldn't really be that untypical. As such, I think the mods shouldn't allow any discussion about the political/humanitarian aspects of this war beyond their effect on the tactical and perhaps strategic aspect of military operations, and these tangets ought to be kept short and sweet.
I don't think anything should be changed regarding Ukraine discussions. It's just that the topic of Israel brings in the scum of this website, particularly that /pol/nigger who thinks there are Christians in Gaza.

>>64178743
>>64178624
>>64178105
Why are you replying to yourself? Also post guns if you're such a moral arbitrator of what's allowed on the Range Trap fucking board.

>>64178705
I love jews and I love how they bring massive numbers of brown people into every White country while having an ethnostate for themselves.

JEWS ROCK!!!! I LOVE JEWS!!!! SEND US MORE MUSLIMS AND SHITJEETS!!!

>>64178743
very not-jewish post, I agree with it fully.
I think Israel also needs $30 more trillion in aid, it's the least that can be done in all of this. It's not like we're not supporting Israel enough nor that I really like Jews but this seems like the best approach for American policy in the middle east.

t. John Texas from New York City.

>>64178759
>/pol/tard seethes uncontrollably at being caught
You know the relevant part was even quoted, and the point was about someone else openly threatening to shit up the board if the posting wasn't to his liking.
/pol/ really isn't sending their best

>>64178872
I gotta ask, do you really think you're fooling anyone?

>>64174098
6 million children

>>64178896
>Someone doesn't actually like /k/ being turned into a /pol/ clone
>Nah must be a JOO SHILL
Shit like this is why we hate you, by the way. The endless accusations of being a shill, purity testing and the way you've adopted a form of struggle sessions to try and enforce your thought control.

>>64179001
The proud defender of /k/'s honor has yet to post any of his guns.

>sneak attack on Iran fails
>regime change fails, Ayatollah going no where
>Iranian nuclear program alive (cant bomb knowledge)
>tel-aviv and haifa suffer massive unprecedented damage the world is forbidden to report on (its THAT bad)
>ZERO HOSTAGES rescued
>Hamasamania STILL runnin' wild
>idf in complete collapse, 10's of thousands refuse to report to conscription
>drafting haredi LMAO
>MASSIVE world wide protests against israel
>israeli government in collapse
>nationwide rioting daily
>global condemnation for unimaginable atrocities
>civil unrest daily
>in coming 2-state solution, where "arab partners" will control gaza

lmao, israel couldnt have failed harder if it actually tried

>>64179001
you can't even pretend to not be the same shill in all these threads lol

>>64179036
>>64179006

You have to go back to /pol/

>>64179089
I very rarely post on /pol/, though.
You, on the other hand, have to go back to whatever oven you crawled out of.

>>64179013
>in coming 2-state solution, where "arab partners" will control gaza
Is that supposed to be bad for Israel?

>>64179013
>it's real in my mind

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>>64178789
There is no reasoning with you, and I don't care how you tourists want this board to be run. Fuck off back to /pol/.

every single person in that region should be executed

>>64179013
Cope.

>>64179111
>Is that supposed to be bad for israel?

lmao internally for israel its a complete catastrophe
there wasnt suppsoed to be a "Gaza" at all when this was over, let alone one where israel MUST cooperate with 3rd party nations to Palestinian land

its a complete and total hyper nightmare within israel it self right now

mods gassed the comments because of feels. mods are fags

>>64179595
uhoh Pali-janny had a melty, shame it won't do anything to save Gaza, but I guess when history and facts aren't on your side you have to resort to censorship

>>64176996

>all of your "trained" fighters get smoked in the first few months the second they go up against people that can shoot back
>replace them with emaciated teenagers and old men pissed off their retard kids died without taking out a single jew

I know it's a nice fantasy to think 30,000 hamas supercommandos are all hiding out in the tunnels of gaza just waiting to strike, but there's more dignity in admitting how fucked they are.

>>64176653
Israel is eastern

>>64178350
this

>>64179595
Lmao, my post was super fucking tame and it got tagged

>I swear to fuck if I got banned for making a simple and harmless 6mil joke

>>64177539
Muh Hamas is just a buzzword for the Kikes to conduct all manner of inhuman criminal acts on the Palestinians.
Armed Hamas effectively does not exist, so it's time to take this propaganda tool away from the Kike vocabulary.

All of this however comes down to the fact that money Jews run the US, and they hold the entire foreign affairs division by the balls.

The US is the root of this evil and the whole world is watching.

>>64180344
have you considered the possibility it's "Jew money" and many people's glee at see towelheads dead?

>>64180344
We've gone from
>HAMAS will destroy Israel
to
>HAMAS never actually existed
and people still say the operation wasn't a success

>>64180371
If it were a success then they have no further cover for committing a slow ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

Therefore, hamas will never be gone, you see. Every palestinian they kill is hamas. Or could have been hamas. Or might have one day grown up to be hamas.

>>64176906
Exactly, fuck Palestine and fuck Islam, they're fucking medieval inventions from a girl-fucking demagogue.

>>64180086
Just two more weeks and Operation Gideon's Chariot 8 will finally defeat Hamas and bring back the prisoners.

>>64181709
Nice job falling for Kike propaganda.
Israel is trying to eradicate the nation of indigenous people of Palestine, this is not a holy war. Palestinians are dying for some towel head niggers in Saudi Arabia, they are dying for their homes and statehood.

In fact, Israel is in bed with Islamist fundamentalists from Saudi Arabia.