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Anonymous No.64177137 >>64177426 >>64178951 >>64179178
Handgun General - /hg/ - #1648
Are you a better shooter than Burt? Edition

Monthly pistol qual
Printable target: https://files.catbox.moe/5ctlkk.jpg
Course of Fire: https://files.catbox.moe/u06i4z.jpg

post in the thread, attach this month's archive code "hg-qual-9-25" to help the collage maker find entries

Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdf
Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik

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Anonymous No.64177164
Previous thread: >>64171086
High score: >>64174764

Current /hg/ qual 9-25 scoreboard

>Carry-Optics
Burt, Walther Q5-match steel: 295/300
PleaseBePatient, P30L LEM: 292/300
Anon, Ruger RXM: 290/300

>Production/Limited
PleaseBePatient, S&W 5903tsw: 283/300
Burt, SIG sour P229 BLUE; 280/300

>Single stack/1911
PleaseBePatient, 80% 1911: 293/300
Burt, Springfield M1911-A1: 271/300

>Stage 1: Slow Fire, 25 yards
>5 rounds, 4 minutes
Start with Weapon loaded with 5 rounds. On command the shooter fires 10 rounds in 4 minutes.

>Stage 2: Timed Fire, 15 yards
>10 rounds, 2 strings of fire of 5 rounds in 15 seconds
Start with Weapon loaded with 5 rounds. On command the shooter will fire 5 rounds in 15 seconds. Upon completing the first string, shooter reloads 5 rounds. On command the shooter shoots the second string, 5 rounds in 15 seconds.

>Stage 3: Rapid Fire, 15 yards
>10 rounds, 2 strings of fire in 5 rounds in 10 seconds
Start with weapon loaded with 5 rounds. On command the shooter fires 5 rounds in 10 seconds. Upon completing the first string, shooter reloads 5 rounds. On command the shooter fires 5 rounds in 10 seconds.
Anonymous No.64177240 >>64177252 >>64177426
>mfw there are only fudd ranges around me where I have to pay 45$+ for a single hour
Anonymous No.64177252 >>64177302
>>64177240
>pay 400 dollars a year for a membership
>unlimited range time, separate bay from the bronze membership (35 dollars)
>5 star ventilation
>no rules regarding rapid fire or holsters
>one plate free from the buffet and free anvil rental
Anonymous No.64177302 >>64177312 >>64178216
>>64177252
>no crab legs
poorfag range confirmed
Anonymous No.64177312 >>64177339 >>64178216
>>64177302
Crab legs are only for gold pass members. I can get imitation crab legs though
Anonymous No.64177339
>>64177312
The chinese buffet near where I grew up used to serve snow crabs legs on sundays. Times have changed for the worse.
Anonymous No.64177426 >>64177653 >>64182900
>>64177137 (OP)
>hg-qual-9-25
Reposting my best gun so far

>>64177240
Jesus christ, my state has free access covered ranges near every major city with no RO and a $180 a year 1000 yard range with two 1k ranges, a 600, and a 430yd rimfire only, all have steel every 50 or 100yds, it's great.
Anonymous No.64177443
Posting in the real thread.
Anonymous No.64177568 >>64177615
Anonymous No.64177615 >>64177645 >>64180247
>>64177568
fuck dude, I would be hella tempted. Due to all that holster wear, it's probably safe, right? Right?
Anonymous No.64177645
>>64177615
90 dollars to get into the class action lawsuit!
Anonymous No.64177653 >>64177744
>>64177426
Great target man. Who makes those grips? Remind me, is this a 9mm?
Anonymous No.64177689
kek
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64177737 >>64177766 >>64177823
>>64175627
That's the idea, he did a video on it recently. Supposedly lube makes the wheels slide and skip instead of roll, which makes the trigger "jump"
Anonymous No.64177744 >>64177753
>>64177653
Thanks! It's just a pair of grips off ebay, I thought they'd look more tacky but honestly I like them.
It's a 9mm wilson/nowlan ramped barrel, yeah. Fucker feeds empty cases from the magazine, it's insane.
Anonymous No.64177753 >>64177823
>>64177744
I regret not picking up those alpha foxtrot .45 bull barrel uppers now
Anonymous No.64177766 >>64177773 >>64177808 >>64177812
>>64177737
Anonymous No.64177773 >>64177812
>>64177766
Granted, the guy did a lot of extra work making it look good since the build quality of the kit is not great.

The FFL here also has a full auto version too, not sure what they built it on
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64177808 >>64177833 >>64177896
>>64175627
I just cleaned my trigger tracks and wheels with acetone and it didn't make a difference so Ian confirmed liar once again :(

>>64177766
Wow people are fucking STUPID holy crap 2 bidders. I bet he's creaming his pants at that grift, giving it to "Off the Set" to implying it's a movie used prop. What a racket. That makes me unconditionally mad. Dumb fucking reddit queers can't read or look with their eyes to see it's not a prop or even based on the 93 WOW ROBOCOP HOLY BID BATMAN LOL THING OF THE UBDOOTS

You ruined my day.
Anonymous No.64177812
>>64177766
>>64177773
Damn that's a lot, I'd be surprised if the maker doesn't take a bunch of pre orders for another batch and charge double.
I'll hold out until someone makes kits/repros of the equilibrium 92s
Anonymous No.64177823 >>64177850
>>64177753
I got this from Spectre Supply on ebay, he restocked a few days after so he gets their stuff in pretty regularly I imagine.

>>64177737
I'm so booty blasted yours is that nice lol
I was going to do the drill today but I'm running on three hours sleep, cigarettes, coffee, and bananas. I'll take a swing tomorrow or Friday.
Anonymous No.64177833 >>64177850 >>64177859
>>64177808
>some random retard on the internet overpaid for a gun
>my day is now ruined
stop being such a dramatic faggot
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64177850 >>64177896
>>64177823
I got it new in box but have a look at the mag release button cutout

>>64177833
The part you don't know is the kits originally sold for $600, then the guy got greedy and raised it to $1,200 where I tapped out, and now that he's got a taste of retards paying $6,000 so that's where they'll stay
Anonymous No.64177859 >>64177881 >>64177895 >>64177896
>>64177833
>tfw you buy a gun retail the week it comes out and its like 500 dollars less on the shelves every time you are at a gun store just to thank you for beta testing
Anonymous No.64177881 >>64178049
>>64177859
How is that thing?
Anonymous No.64177885 >>64177911
I know everyone here loves the Winchester Service Grade +P 9mm, is there defensive ammo any good? What do you recommend?
Anonymous No.64177895
>>64177859
let that be a lesson to you about gunsooming
Anonymous No.64177896 >>64177910 >>64177918
I have decided on my next 1911 build

>>64177859
That's kinda hot

>>64177850
>have a look at the mag release button cutout
Oh god dammit lol

>>64177808
>it didn't make a difference
Well, shidd.
Anonymous No.64177910 >>64178008
>>64177896
Would be hot in a five inch
Anonymous No.64177911 >>64177940 >>64177948 >>64177970 >>64182358
>>64177885
SGammo sells “runoff” of the military’s M1153 load which is supposed to be paired with M1152, in my experience it has similar POI but less recoil and velocity since it’s a 147 gr JHP. The bullet design is based off the Winchester Ranger HP but with a more closed nose for more penetration/less expansion. I’ve seen testing where it gets clogged by heavy clothing and other tests where it has good performance.

Every one says just stick with Federal, Speer Gold dot 124gr, +P if you can get it. That grain would be the most consistent and you don’t need to worry about barrel length. 147 gr loads could have better performance but you need to worry about barrel length.

Right now I’m carrying that M1153 stuff in my PX4 compact, never really know if it’s going to expand. I keep putting off switching to HST or something since M1153 was from back when I carried a 92 full-size
Anonymous No.64177918 >>64178008
>>64177896
>Colt commander with S&W style protected rear sight
>fuck huge extended mag release for baby jap hands
>checkered front trigger guard, based
Anonymous No.64177940
>>64177911
The high pressure military load is marked Winchester Defense but it’s actually M1153, not to be confused with the other skus of Winchester defense which are budget JHPs. These are the skus for M1153
Anonymous No.64177948
>>64177911
Forgot to mention that Service grade stuff is the military new FMJ called M1152
Anonymous No.64177970
>>64177911
Thanks man! I'll be sure to try em all out!
Anonymous No.64178008 >>64178099 >>64178761
>>64177918
Devel did some CRAZY shit in the 80s.
We're talking roller bearings installed in the feed ramp of the frame type shit.
And that's just a straight up S&W 39 or something sight, it's really cool.

Here's another Devel schitso post

>>64177910
I'm thinking 4.5" threaded barrel 9mm with an officer grip extended by a thin magwell and about half as long a mag release. Not sure about the sight, might buy a smith and modify it to a U notch for a big dot tritium/fiber front or just make my own from a revolver rear sight and sheet metal on my press.
I'm thinking slide lock hushpuppy style too because fuck it, we ball
Anonymous No.64178026 >>64178140 >>64178873
PSA has .s&w .357s on sale, I'm very tempted but I've never had a revolver before. Should I?
Anonymous No.64178049 >>64178412
>>64177881
It has been my carry gun and is fucking amazing.
It had a 3 box-ish break in period where it would fail to feed but after a while it has yet to give me a malfunction.

Fact is, two days ago I took it to the range and was kicking myself at the fact i forgot to lube it. Everyone knows you have to take care of 2011s cause they're finicky shits, but since this is technically just an external extractor 1911 it performed flawlessly.
Anonymous No.64178099
>>64178008
>might buy a smith and modify it to a U notch
What about an M1 Carbine rear sight with the knob significantly smaller
Anonymous No.64178140
>>64178026
This is anecdotal but I find shooting .38 special out of an 357 magnum revolver the most fun you can have at a range. Maybe a suppressed .22 can compete but that's it
Anonymous No.64178173 >>64178194 >>64178196
Can't believe PB crashed out and did a mass shooting guys.
Anonymous No.64178194
>>64178173
Nope. Not in my general, take this to the other one
Polybius !!1jw14zPYSwI No.64178196 >>64178317 >>64178417 >>64178442 >>64178674
>>64178173
The only mass I'm shooting is composed of ink and paper
Anonymous No.64178216
>>64177302
>>64177312
Did someone say crab legs?
Anonymous No.64178317 >>64178436
>>64178196
Wow, that target sure is something.
Anonymous No.64178324
>>64173712
>>64173718
That thing looks a like a chode and you look like a jackass
Respect
Anonymous No.64178412
>>64178049
Damn, I would pick one up if it was more styled like a 2011/1911
Anonymous No.64178417 >>64178436
>>64178196
We have another ppanon scattershot situation here
Anonymous No.64178436 >>64178444 >>64178658
>>64178317
>>64178417
I was attempting to zero at 25, I admit I have to do this shit all over again
Anonymous No.64178442 >>64179100
>>64178196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn4yAbA9cZw
Anonymous No.64178444 >>64178468
>>64178436
>I was attempting to zero at 25
With what? A super shorty?
Anonymous No.64178468 >>64179100
>>64178444
I shoot micro compacts with tighter groupings than that.
Anonymous No.64178658 >>64179100
>>64178436
You don't shoot anything and you don't know how to zero. You think smacking it with a broken chinese hammer is zeroing. You aren't fooling anyone.
Anonymous No.64178666
Going to buy magazines on labor day. Looking for a deal.
Anonymous No.64178674 >>64179100
>>64178196
What distance? I'm trying to figure out if I should laugh or not.
Anonymous No.64178692 >>64179653
What is this? A Taurus?
Anonymous No.64178744 >>64178753 >>64178901
Is the only difference between the carry comp polymer and metal the material of the frame? Are there any bells and whistles thrown on to the 'premium' metal?

Is an aluminum frame worth $200?
Anonymous No.64178753
>>64178744
Those slide serrations are absolutely grotesque
Anonymous No.64178761 >>64178798
Does anyone make an officers sized 2011 grip? (Besides a para ordnance) Smallest I've seen is a commander size and some 9mm specific thinner grips.
>>64178008
Every time I see this I coom, devel was the original TJ's custom
Anonymous No.64178798 >>64178982
>>64178761
The Springfield Prodigy Compact uses a special short magazine, I believe it is 113mm length. So 13mm shorter than a standard mag and 7mm shorter than the 120mm “commander” length used by Cheely and Staccato’s compacter grips.

The only way to get it is by calling Springfield’s customer support as a spare part. You have to buy the mainspring housing with it as well, as nobody else’s will fit.

Infinity also has a compact carry grip module, 113mm length magazines which are 150 dollars each (and do not lock the slide back), and the grip module is like 800 bucks but is made of stainless steel
Anonymous No.64178873
>>64178026
I’m biased but I think revolvers are a blast. Go for it anon. Hard to go wrong with a 357 smith, especially if it’s not crazy priced.
Anonymous No.64178901
>>64178744
I held a metal M&P and it's absolutely not worth it. If only they'd make them out of steel.
Anonymous No.64178951 >>64179100 >>64179227
Every gun yellow posed with like my tisas, 1903 and revolvers is now sentimental. A fucking tisas is a relic.
Idk what to do with stuff he didn’t pose with. Pre GCA PPK are collectible
Idk if to keep them or cash out
Not in the mood to buy rn gunchads
>>64177137 (OP)
No
Anonymous No.64178982 >>64179042
>>64178798
Hell yeah thanks for the info anon.
Infinity looks awesome but oh my butthole that price, hard to justify over a cheely commander.
Anonymous No.64179042 >>64179110
>>64178982
The MJD flush cut grip module is cheaper than cheely and doesn’t need special baseplates

I used one on this build for 120mm mags which are the same as the cheely mags
Anonymous No.64179050
Best IWB holster for a 92FS? I was looking at Legacy Firearms Co. but I don't feel I need a Kydex holster with all the bells and whistles for something with a manual safety and DA.
Polybius !!TBWJakuBOiO No.64179100 >>64179677
>>64178951
>Not in the mood to gunsoom
Having sold most of my Gunko Pops, I understand the feeling

>>64178442
>>64178468
>>64178674
Post your 25yd group. You do shoot beyond 15yd, right?

>>64178658
As you can see by the score model in the upper left corner, I was pretty fucking close
Anonymous No.64179110
>>64179042
Interesting. Dang so many choices.
Anonymous No.64179128 >>64179891
What I can see is a 2 foot group 10 feet away. lol
Anonymous No.64179161 >>64179165 >>64179166 >>64179190 >>64180868
How does one go about ccw'ing a 92FS without looking fat or printing like an inkjet
Anonymous No.64179165 >>64179228
>>64179161
Anonymous No.64179166
>>64179161
wear a shirt that drapes over your waistline
Anonymous No.64179178 >>64179204
>>64177137 (OP)
what distance for that pic?
Anonymous No.64179190
>>64179161
CC in shoulder holster with coat or jacket to cover.
Anonymous No.64179204 >>64179210 >>64179234
>>64179178
Anonymous No.64179210 >>64179212 >>64179214 >>64179327
>>64179204
>rapid fire
>5 rounds in 10 seconds

bor-ing
Anonymous No.64179212 >>64179219
>>64179210
You should have no trouble doing better, huh? Can't wait to see!
Anonymous No.64179214
>>64179210
>It's afraid
Anonymous No.64179218
>64178196
Treyquisha the fat sassy mall cop can shoot better than this.
Anonymous No.64179219
>>64179212
>You should have no trouble doing better, huh?

why would i want to? that sounds really boring to do. sorry bud you aren't going to farm engagement by telling everyone to post their groups.
Anonymous No.64179222
LMAO
Anonymous No.64179227 >>64179677
>>64178951
This is going to be you one day Dr. Troon.
Anonymous No.64179228
>>64179165
Anonymous No.64179234 >>64179282
>>64179204
neat, thank you. 4 mins to fire 10 rounds at 25 yards seems the more interesting part, how large is the target?
Anonymous No.64179252 >>64179265 >>64179273 >>64179288
Besides the P226 this is the only sigger gun I've actually wanted really badly. It looks fucking gorgeous. Fuck me I'm trying to control myself because sig is such a terrible company. I may placate myself with a comped stacato.
Anonymous No.64179265 >>64179286
>>64179252
You should want a Sig p210
Anonymous No.64179273 >>64179286
>>64179252
I would wait since there is a lot that can go wrong with it
Anonymous No.64179282
>>64179234
Here is the "printable version" but
>The black bullseye scoring area of the official NRA B8 target is 5.5 inches in diameter, with a smaller X-ring (the center for tie-breaking) measuring 1.695 inches across. The complete B8 target itself is a larger piece of paper, typically 21 x 24 inches, used for timed and rapid-fire pistol stages at 25 yards
Anonymous No.64179283 >>64179290 >>64179321
Gun hunger is striking again
I've been thinking about a Glock 26
Anonymous No.64179286
>>64179265
Almost forgot about that one.
>>64179273
I'm not touching it and even if I did cave in it would be many months from now once all the typical new gun fuck ups are fixed.
Anonymous No.64179288
>>64179252
I unironically want a P365 Replacement, an M17 or M18 to complete my US Armed forces Handgun collection, a Navy P226, and a P210
Anonymous No.64179290
>>64179283
>ported and suppressed

based, flex on poors
Anonymous No.64179321 >>64179323 >>64179697
>>64179283
I really don't understand the appeal of the Glock 26. Just get a 19
Anonymous No.64179323 >>64179464 >>64181665
>>64179321
I already have a 19
Also a Glock 26 is a decent CCW gun that also takes Glock 19 and 17 mags
Anonymous No.64179327
>>64179210
The drill is supposed to be done from the holster, so subtract 1.5s from the total time. It's a test of basic competency and also something anons can do without special equipment or in a range that does not allow flashy shooting like bill drills.

Harder more elaborate courses of fire would then exclude anons who do not have access to good ranges or shottimers. If we started doing "El Presidente" drills most anons do not have access to a action bay or a place to set up 3 targets.
Anonymous No.64179431
Don't tell me you don't have a backup gun.
Anonymous No.64179464 >>64179495 >>64179528
>>64179323
What's the appeal of a 26? What does it do that the 19 doesn't? If you can't easily CC a 19 then you must be either a manlet or a woman
Anonymous No.64179495
>>64179464
I can put a 26 in my pocket
Anonymous No.64179499 >>64179509 >>64179518
How much should I expect to pay for a Glock 19? Anything I should know about differences between manufacturers?
Anonymous No.64179509
>>64179499
I wanna say less than $600
Anonymous No.64179518 >>64179523 >>64179552
>>64179499
Austrian = good
US =gay
Anonymous No.64179523
>>64179518
>even considering USA as an option
Anonymous No.64179528 >>64179548
>>64179464
I hate carrying appendix and prefer 4 o'clock IWB, the shorter grip of the 26 prints less IME.
Anonymous No.64179548
>>64179528
4 o'clock sucks though and will probably give you scoliosis
Anonymous No.64179552 >>64179579
>>64179518
I genuinely can't tell a difference in quality between either of them and I have one US made and one Austrian glonker.
Anonymous No.64179555 >>64179566
MOS or no mas?
Anonymous No.64179566
>>64179555
I do have an optics ready pistol but IDGAF about optics
Not unless I get an M9A4 anyway
Anonymous No.64179579
>>64179552
They are probably the same but it's cringe to have an Austrian gun not made in Austria.
Anonymous No.64179607
Anonymous No.64179647 >>64179665
I wanna do the qual challenge before the deadline expires. I just gotta make sure I have the proper sized target, not gonna print it myself. I'll order a standard regulation sized.
Anonymous No.64179653 >>64183037
>>64178692
Yeah, looks like a GX2…
Anonymous No.64179665
>>64179647
The “repair” centers are 20 cents each off Amazon, while the actual B8 is 50 cents each. If you’re competent then just the repair center is enough
Anonymous No.64179677 >>64179695 >>64179891
>>64179100
If I sell some of them like the Manurhin I might be able to get my money back and then some
Idk if to do it since they might be stuff I miss down the road and my finances are okay (no high interest credit card debt) so maybe I should just mothball
>>64179227
Not likely as I’m baby faced, a twink and have positive canthal tilt and like BF1942 gear not tacticool so literally the inverse of the horsefaced shooter. Maybe I’ll stop a mass shooter one day to complete the opposites

He seems kind of like you right down to the esl zigspeak. Glad to know you didn’t do it
Anonymous No.64179695 >>64179728
>>64179677
You couldn't even stop some tweaker but you offered him 20 bucks. You're already crazy and mentally ill. This will be the last thing you'll see
Anonymous No.64179697
>>64179321
Short barrels are nice if you're short and trying to carry appendix.
Anonymous No.64179714 >>64179720 >>64179732 >>64179750 >>64179765 >>64179891 >>64180892
Do you own duplicate or very similar handgun models? Like different generations of a Glock model or 1911 variants?
The latter seems popular with boomers, at least. I can barely tell the difference between them.
Anonymous No.64179720
>>64179714
I have multiple Beretta 92s and I plan on having a Gen 5 G17 to complement my Gen 1 "Classic" G17
Anonymous No.64179728 >>64179741
>>64179695
This actually shows I’m genteel and have a sense of proportionality. I don’t chimp out and do crimes. So if I do shoot someone there clearly would be no choice.

That’s kind of the opposite of dysgenic mass shooter (you). You probably have a long midface like the shooter too lmao. You both like Russian sights and talk like a zig
Anonymous No.64179732
>>64179714
I have Gen 3, 4, and 5 Glock 19s. I also have two 19x's, a standard one with night sights and pic related, an MOS with threaded barrel.
Anonymous No.64179741
>>64179728
Is this the head tumor talking? When it finally takes over your mentally ill head, you're going to end up in the news
Anonymous No.64179750 >>64179772 >>64179781
>>64179714
Yeah

I’m missing two in this photo actually
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64179765 >>64179776
>>64179714
Yes but I can stop any time I want
Anonymous No.64179772 >>64179774 >>64180018
>>64179750
Forgot I owned two more, so I still am missing two from this technically
Anonymous No.64179774 >>64179780
>>64179772
why do people do this? What makes them think it's a good idea?
Anonymous No.64179776 >>64179783
>>64179765
I forgot to tell you I scored some carbon creations grips.
Anonymous No.64179780
>>64179774
I need to part ways with a few overlapping guns but I like what I like.
Anonymous No.64179781 >>64179801
>>64179750
What enticed you to buy all these 1911s? Not a diss, just curious what drew you to all the different ones you've bought.
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64179783 >>64179801
>>64179776
Woah. Where?
Anonymous No.64179801 >>64179826
>>64179781
The hunt for the perfect handgun, you got “I love this one, but what if it was longer?” Or shorter. Or in 10mm. Or in .45 ACP. Or what if it was double stack? The only real duplicate guns is my Detonics Combat Master collection, originally I bought two as one would be for the collection and one I would shoot, both became collection guns I sought more to be the “shooter”.

There are two I want to get rid of. Dan Wesson Specialist 10mm since I already have a 10mm 1911 that is better. Wilson Combat Sentinel 9mm, bought as a carry gun and I was going to carry 9mm +P+ in it, I don’t feel comfortable with 8+1 rounds of 9mm when I could carry a .45 instead. I tried selling it but it’s such a specific model I’ll have to go on 1911 forums to sell it, as the sentinel is a unique frame size that’s smaller than the officer by 1/4 inch in the grip.

>>64179783
eBay
Anonymous No.64179826
>>64179801
My current obsession with the perfect 1911 has led me down the path of making my own. My lead on the “perfect handgun” is a 5 inch .45 ACP, but more bullets. I am quite happy with how successful my first attempt was. Now I wish it was optic cut, something super low direct mount, and perhaps shorter since I will appendix carry it

You could just chalk it up to mental illness and autism. When I get stressed I literally start shopping for guns
Polybius !!1jw14zPYSwI No.64179891 >>64179909
Fucking ceiling

>>64179128
What I can see is you not posting groups at all

>>64179677
Don't sell your SA-35 or any of your "full" sized pistols that you need for the /hg/ 25yd-qualification

>>64179714
No Gunko Pop collection for me
Anonymous No.64179909 >>64179913 >>64179928
>>64179891
The SA35 is genuinely very mid, even with the modifications.
Can’t I just use my tisas?
Idk if I can pass
What are the rules?
Anonymous No.64179913 >>64179923
>>64179909
just post a target with a bunch of holes and say you did it to shut the sperg up
Anonymous No.64179923 >>64179928 >>64179944
>>64179913
I’m in the midst of a 40 days of mourning period for yellow
I can’t shoot till next month
I’m not even carrying apart from my glovebox gun
Anonymous No.64179928 >>64179964 >>64180048
>>64179909
>just use my tisas
Aren't the sights on that worse than your SA-35?
>Idk if I can pass
If you attempt to Olympic shoot, probably not. You'll definitely benefit using both hands but the rules don't explicitly say you have to, heh
>What are the rules?
Here you go
https://files.catbox.moe/u06i4z.jpg

There's also a printable target
https://files.catbox.moe/5ctlkk.jpg

>>64179923
I too have been separated from the range and it's fucked with my head pretty bad
Anonymous No.64179944 >>64179978
>>64179923
mourning for what?
Anonymous No.64179947 >>64180039
Is there a specific angle I should set a steel target at to make it as relatively safe as possible to shoot close range with handguns?

I take out and teach enough noguns with pistols and so far I've been using self healing type targets so they move when hit to give visual feedback if the person missed or not. I'd like to switch to steel for the loud ping as well but idk if its safer to just hang a plate from chains or have something fixed at a steep angle
Anonymous No.64179951 >>64179960
What optics do you niggas like with a PDP
Anonymous No.64179960 >>64180514
>>64179951
the biggest, ugliest, fattest fucking retard optic you can find.
If possible use something meant to go on a pic rail with an adapter
Do NOT go "reasonable" with the PDP
Anonymous No.64179964 >>64180023 >>64181043
>>64179928
I can not understand how to use modern sights. The SA-35 is huge sights and so I can’t center on a target.
The tisas, PpK and Makarov have narrow slim sights so once they line up it’s solidly on target.

I got better groups with my small sight PM than I did my SA-35
Someone said use a combat hold but idk what that is
>separated
I need to go water the roses over his grave rn
Anonymous No.64179978 >>64181683
>>64179944
Yellow
Also this is the last gun he posed with
Anonymous No.64180018 >>64181788
>>64179772
Jellyfish as fuck man
I gotta build my own 1911s because fuck grip safeties and if I'm taking a belt sander to it I might as well DIY the whole thing.
Anonymous No.64180023 >>64180048
>>64179964
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64180039
>>64179947
Ideally you'd want a downward cant of 20 degrees or so but you can't 100% prevent spall from getting back to the firing line. I've been hit once and had two other pieces whiz or hit other people on the line in 15 years of using gongs in this way (picture related)

If you use a bolt like pic related to move the CG of the target forward from its hanging point, it will naturally tilt downward but still ring loudly (which commercial rigidly fixed gongs do not do)
Anonymous No.64180048 >>64180052 >>64180067 >>64180073 >>64180074 >>64181043
>>64180023
I still don’t get it
My closest understanding of it is as sight augmented point shooting where I have the gun superimpose over the target but that’s basically a short range technique and I’ll never land hits at 25
>>64179928
Also this is basically just the WW2 1911 qual
I’ll run my 1911

Also, what passes for defensive carry under a gun fast
Anonymous No.64180052 >>64180073
>>64180048
>I still don’t get it
Well, no offense, but you might be retarded then? I literally gave you pictures.
Anonymous No.64180054 >>64180073
Are there any uses for 32 acp outside of being an autoloader option for pocket carry?
Anonymous No.64180067 >>64180075
>>64180048
>I’ll never land hits at 25
Skill issue, maybe you should shoot more than 300 rounds a year
You are the type of person that insists on "suppressor height" sights so you can see over a can aren't you.
Anonymous No.64180073 >>64180087
>>64180054
It can do everything 22lr can while also being non laughable defensively. You can dial power down to sub 100ftlbs with a lot of weaker American loads… or instead use full powered steel cored European milsurp rounds or hard cast buffalo bore which is 32-20 like
Also you can shoot out of 32 revolvers in a pinch
>>64180052
How does that help me shoot a big sight better? If it’s too big there are a lot of alternate angles than true dead ahead it can be pointed to
Also, the cop training video said with the point shooting technique they called a combat hold to look at the target not gun
>>64180048
Forgot my picture
I like how untactical this Gerber looks
Anonymous No.64180074 >>64180081
>>64180048
>align your sights, make sure they're absolutely correctly aligned and you have chosen a position, doesn't have to be the "correct" one, and your fundamentals are solid so you limit as many variables as possible
>fire
>observe where the round hit
>attempt to repeat the first step again
>observe where the round hit
>use your Intelligence Quotient to find a correlation between the position of the sights, the place where you hold the sights, and the actual true point of impact. Rotate it in your head, enlarge it, extrapolate it to predict how it would change when aiming at different targets at different angles and distances
>from there, try to imagine how your shooting would be if you had not eaten breakfast that morning
Anonymous No.64180075 >>64180076 >>64180097
>>64180067
Yes…
Tbf I had decent results at 25 yards with my Makarov. I know how to use classic irons
Anonymous No.64180076 >>64180089
>>64180075
What are "decent results"?
Anonymous No.64180081
>>64180074
>calculate a firing solution by walking the fire
You might as well put a lord kelvin style fire control computer a top your gun while you’re at it
Anonymous No.64180087 >>64180092
>>64180073
>how does that help me shoot a big sight better? If it’s too big there are a lot of alternate angles than true dead ahead it can be pointed to
God damn you really don't know how to shoot a pistol do you.
Pro tip, it's three black fucking squares, if you keep them all lined up and don't jerk it like you're trying to pay your rent it will go where you point it. It's basic trigonometry.
Anonymous No.64180089 >>64180091
>>64180076
Mostly on the circle I aimed at
A couple drifted vertically to the lower circle. I have some vertical wondering with my small sight guns.
Possibly because I didn’t take the time to see if it shoots high like my PPK which I had to correct for.
Anonymous No.64180091 >>64180101
>>64180089
2" circle? 12" circle? Traffic circle?
Anonymous No.64180092 >>64180135
>>64180087
Notice how the huge sights have more “correct” firing solutions than the tiny sights?
With the very narrow PPK sights if you get a match it’s guaranteed to be pretty close to dead ahead while with bigger sights there’s more matches where it isn’t at true center.
If you’re shooting quickly it’s easier to get center with the PM and PPK which is why I said I did better with them
Especially the PM which is approaching service pistol size
Anonymous No.64180097 >>64180107
>>64180075
>Troon already making mentally ill fantasies
You'll probably miss your head if you tried killing yourself
Anonymous No.64180101 >>64180109
>>64180091
Whatever this is
And btw that was what passed for my attempt to center my off center sa-35 sights at 7 yards. Like I said, I don’t do well with it.
The PM was able to get results like this at twice the distance.
Anonymous No.64180107 >>64180130
>>64180097
Lube and our Russian anon pass the native English speaker challenge. You’re the only one the computer says isn’t native.
> You'll probably miss your head if you tried killing yourself
You just keep missing
Try faggot
Try

Can you not esl sperg for once
Anonymous No.64180109 >>64180111
>>64180101
>Whatever this is
Did you mean to post something?
Anonymous No.64180111 >>64180112
>>64180109
Yeah
Sorry
I’m tired and deleted most of my gun records after yellow died
This is what I mean by a mediocre sa35 zeroing
Anonymous No.64180112 >>64180121 >>64180122
>>64180111
At 25yds?
Anonymous No.64180121
>>64180112
Obviously not moron, do you not know who you're talking to?
Anonymous No.64180122 >>64180129
>>64180112
Hell no
That was the SA-35 at 7!
Tbf the Makarov was much better and only a little worse at 25. So guns that might pass: 1911, PM, trigger modded nugget (with military ammo).

Guns that won’t: SA-35
Anonymous No.64180129 >>64180135
>>64180122
You need to gitgud, mak's are significantly more capable than that.

You're assigning your lack of proficiency to the equipment, and mistaking your lack of experience as enlightenment.
Anonymous No.64180130 >>64180131 >>64180132
>>64180107
Whatever you say Dr. Troon
Anonymous No.64180131 >>64180145
>>64180130
Btw, now that the cat you anally raped everyday passed away, let's see if you got to the Appalachia mountains so a bear can eat you
Anonymous No.64180132
>>64180130
Anonymous No.64180135 >>64180146
>>64180092
I also forgot to post my sight comparison
Narrow sights are more sensitive to parallax while big sights can give false on target
>>64180129
I did get the impression I the Pm was pretty good
It was my first time shooting it Tbf and I kept getting misfires till carbon came out of my firing pin and caused a slam fire
Then it ran good

I did clean the firing pin before hand but not enough apparently
Anonymous No.64180145 >>64180158
>>64180131
We really need to ban all IP address outside of the United States
Anonymous No.64180146 >>64180154 >>64180161
>>64180135
>Narrow sights are more sensitive to parallax while big sights can give false on target
Not really how it works but you think you're an expert so there's no shouting up to you on dunning peak.
>The worst part about 4chan is the unbelievably confidently wrong motherfuckers.
Anonymous No.64180154 >>64180164
>>64180146
I don’t know anything but if the gun sights are a hair off center with narrow sights you can immediately tell. You fail to line up.
If they’re a hair off center with this it looks centered
There’s a Garand thumb where he’s talking about how the broom handle sights are weirdly accurate because they’re so narrow
Anonymous No.64180158 >>64180179
>>64180145
We really need to ban mentally ill from owning any firearms
Anonymous No.64180161 >>64180170 >>64180179
>>64180146
You're dealing with a mentally ill individual that think it's a jack of all trades and an expert quoting boomers from the 70s. There's no reasoning with this mentally ill homo. Do not attempt a serious discussion because you will never get one
Anonymous No.64180164 >>64180170 >>64180179
>>64180154
Now hold it at arms length so you don't exaggerate the sight gap with the camera to make your flawed point.
I know everything you think you do. I'd happily help you actually get decent, but it's clear you're not capable of listening to others.
Anonymous No.64180170 >>64180184
>>64180161
Okay, come on that's clearly a shitpost.
But yes, I agree. As I said in >>64180164 they're clearly incapable of taking instruction from others. Just a side effect of being a kid, I was a little fucktard in my 20s as well.
Anonymous No.64180179 >>64180258
Tried the SA again. The trigger (after disassembling the entire fire control group, polishing, and replacing with a modified hammer spring) is actually pretty nice now. Still just under 5
>>64180158
Useless when the narcos gave you one for jumping over with stuff up your chute enough times. That explains your weird obsession on the topic.
>>64180161
I can tell it’s you because of the ESL.
Also that’s not me. I accepted lead poisoning as inevitable and take ALA to chelate and prevent radical damage. You have such a butt fettish that you call anyone who says anything medical me
>>64180164
I’m not wearing my glasses so pointless rn.
I do want to learn how to shoot fat sights (it still has a lot of “false” centers last time I tried) since the gun feels pretty nice and I’ve already moded it
Anonymous No.64180184 >>64180192
>>64180170
That’s not even me. Esl-kun calls everyone me. He also admits to being a prohibited person.
Anonymous No.64180192 >>64180200
>>64180184
Are you making other personas in your tiny mentally ill brain?
Anonymous No.64180200 >>64180211
>>64180192
Narco hand ngl. You talk like one too and talk way too much about rectal smuggling.
Anonymous No.64180211
>>64180200
I'm not sure I understand your mentally ill babble Dr. Troon
Anonymous No.64180247
>>64177615
It's a BB gun, you'll be fine.
Anonymous No.64180258 >>64180300
>>64180179
>I do want to learn how to shoot fat sights
I can offer advice but if you argue instead of asking clarifying questions you'll never learn.
Anonymous No.64180300 >>64180317 >>64180337
>>64180258
Argue what?
There isn’t anything worth arguing. I don’t know how to shoot modern sights and because that can’t use the gun properly.
Anonymous No.64180317 >>64181546
>>64180300
You don't know how to shoot because you shoot like a side aiming noog. We've all seen your shooting for several years
Anonymous No.64180337 >>64180372
>>64180300
>Argue what?
I have confidence you'll find something.
Importantly, you need to learn slow fire target shooting techniques with them first, then you can apply that knowledge to more practical shooting. And for some reason the two or three of you 'regulars' that are confidently and aggressively wrong refuse to crawl before trying to set sprint records.
So that's step one, don't try to do any John wicked shit with no foundation.

You also need to learn that while the sights obscure more of the target, they're not any less precise if you aling them properly. If your sights are perfectly squared the deviation between shots will be the muzzle movement, which should be squared perpendicular to the target, and therefore limited to the physical movement of the gun at your hands.
Perfectly aligned sights and a 1/2" "shake/sway" in your hands is 1/2" on paper. At 5yds AND 50yds.
It doesn't matter that your sights cover a 24" target because you're not lining up a target, you're lining up two pieces of steel that are 4" apart.

And very Importantly, you need to learn to position yourself on a natural point of aim, like a precision rifle, so your sights don't drift left/right across the range from muscle tightness.
This is the REAL reason isosceles is the king shit stance, it doesn't impart muscle tension like weaver does (push/pull will absolutely fuck you, especially when you're pushing 0.18 splits or less and you need the gun to only move vertically under recoil.)
Anonymous No.64180372 >>64180393
>>64180337
>If your sights are perfectly squared the deviation between shots will be the muzzle movement, which should be squared perpendicular to the target

To expand on this, if you focus on the light gap on either side of your front sight and keep it even, you will not be inducing angular deviation in the pistol between shots. Therefore you will not have the 1moa is 1" at 100 but 10" at 1000 issue. If your sights are perfect, you could shoot at the target with a tarp in front of it and your group will be no larger than the distance the gun moves side to side.
I assure you, you will notice if your gun sways 10" left or right.
>Obviously you are acting as a pivot point and the pistol is at arms length, which will introduce some angular variation even if your eye sees perfect alignment, this is what your sight PICTURE is for, and you'll be able to see your sights drift across the background using reference points that aren't obscured, such as the outer edges of the target paper/stand, or for artillery lobbing 45 at hundreds of yards, trees and berms. This is not your immediate concern and you'll learn as you go.)
Anonymous No.64180393 >>64181546
>>64180372
Currently, I'm willing to bet you aim by "keeping the front and rear sight both inside the target bullseye/circle/colored area"
Which falls apart when the sights obscure the target zone and lead you to needing extremely thin sights as a crutch.

You need to learn to align your body to the target (this isn't natural and you'll need to practice it to learn the "feel" for it)
I square up as best I can with the gun at my side, then close my eyes and lift the gun, open my eyes and check where I'm at. Move one foot forward or back to rotate your body and do it again.
Once you do that you can focus on the sights themselves to get, and maintain, the perfect alignment.

After that you center up on the target, lower the sights a bit to see the bullseye, lift the sights untilthe bullseye is directly behind the front dot, mentally reference what the rest of the target looks like so you can tell if you start to drift, and focus on the sight alignment as you press the trigger. Talk to yourself about the sights to distract from the trigger and lessen your flinch. "Okay the front sight is a little high, lower, okay it's good, even gap on the sides, don't let it dip belo..." *BANG* (As a shitty example of potential internal monolog)

>But anon, PPglockDr.Tran won't listen
You're reading it too, so are the lurkers, this is for everyone.
Anonymous No.64180514 >>64181808
>>64179960
Why not
Anonymous No.64180868
>>64179161
Dress like a cholo (shirt 2 sizes too big, baggy pants) or a boomer (hawaiian shirt) like all of the full-size carry spergs in this thread do.
Anonymous No.64180892
>>64179714
Yeah but only for good reason, I'm not like Burt with the money to compulsively collect different color variants. For example I have two gen 3 G19s, one is in nice shape, the other is a police trade in I had cut for an optic. I have 3 1911s, one a 10mm, one a classic colt, one a cheapo I bought when I was in college, and I'm working on getting a double stack 1911 but have had difficulty finding one that looks like a classic.
Anonymous No.64180906
Somebody stop me before I do something stupid.
Polybius !!1jw14zPYSwI No.64181043 >>64181546
Shooting from dark to light fucks me up every time

>>64179964
The target's all black and shit so it's gonna suck using anything other than hi vis like fiber optic or hybrid sights
>need to go water the roses
SFYL

>>64180048
>WW2 1911 qual
They qualified at 25 yards Olympic style? That's news to me
Anonymous No.64181108 >>64181363
Quick question: Does the added length of a threaded barrel increase the velocity of the projectile in any meaningful way compared to a non threaded barrel.
Recently bought a Springfield Echelon with a threaded barrel instead of the non-threaded version.
Anonymous No.64181133
>64181043
Post your pistol qual you dumb schizo
Polybius !!1jw14zPYSwI No.64181190
>64181133
I haven't attempted the pistol qual yet, you stupid cunt. There'll only be a window of opportunity less than an hour so that range day has to be planned meticulously. Besides, don't I have until September 20th to make this shit happen?
Anonymous No.64181239 >>64181249 >>64181546
>Shits on red dots for months
>Finally shoots his gun
>Realizes his irons suck
Im laughin
Anonymous No.64181249 >>64181253
>>64181239
No he's just an unskilled shooter with very poor fundamentals. Same skill level as a rent a cop security guard basically, maybe even less so.
Anonymous No.64181253 >>64181585
>>64181249
Oh that too, he doesn't know his hold and now hes just revealing that he is the target audience for carry dots.
Anonymous No.64181363
>>64181108
Maybe. Sometimes 1/2 an inch makes a difference some times it’s nothing. Depending on riflings style sometimes a gun with a longer barrel has the same or less velocity then a barrel that’s shorter with different rifling
Anonymous No.64181546 >>64181564 >>64181585 >>64181720 >>64182494 >>64182553
>>64180393
>Currently, I'm willing to bet you aim by "keeping the front and rear sight both inside the target bullseye/circle/colored area"
>Which falls apart when the sights obscure the target zone and lead you to needing extremely thin sights as a crutch.
Quiet and thank you. I aim below the target for some like the PPK though (shoots high)
If that’s how you have to work big sights then what’s the point in ever having big sights though?

Can I use your stance thing with Chapman and PowerPoint or should I just switch two hand to isosceles?

I hated isosceles because the foot work makes you recoil susceptible if you’re not big or a fat as
>>64181239
Do you mean me? Because I’ve never once mentioned red dots other than wanting one on my pm and I like narrow sights better than regular

Maybe I should put a red dot on my Springfield as it’s not an edc gun and will offset the bad sights
>>64181043
Yes https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=enTnooHTsLY I’ll take my tisas
>>64180317
I get respectable results for one hand with 45 and 44 guns. You’re trying with 9mm two hands and so never exercise recoil control.
Anonymous No.64181564 >>64181698
>>64181546
>stupid woman babbling the post
Take your retarded and faggot opinions somewhere else.
Polybius !!1jw14zPYSwI No.64181585 >>64181698
>>64181253
>doesn't know his hold
How the fuck was I supposed to know a combat hold wouldn't work at 25 yards? Never thought Doom Guy's sight picture would be applicable to reality

>>64181546
You're gonna attempt this shit single handedly with stock sights? Goodluck pulling that off, bro
Anonymous No.64181638
>64181585
Theres no semblance of any hold on your target lmfao, if you had an off hold youd have a grouping but off the bullseye.
Anonymous No.64181665
>>64179323
This is true. Little on the chunky side, but the shorter barrel is nice for AIWB carry.
Anonymous No.64181683 >>64181712
>>64179978
Fuck. My condolences. Don't give a shit about most people, but the death of a cat is fucking rough.
Anonymous No.64181698 >>64181726 >>64181726
>>64181564
I’m no more a woman than a dog in a dress is a woman
>>64181585
The 1911 qual was done on a man sized target at 25 yards with stock sights
I forgot just how nice the 1911 trigger is and it turns out I can’t hack fat irons so the 1911 is probably my best hope barring a red dot

What’s a good red dot for a sa-35
Anonymous No.64181712 >>64182808
>>64181683
He slept on me nonstop. Every time I go to bed I miss him. I didn’t spend as much time with him as I expected to because he was well until a week before he died. That’s the worst part about it. It was a sudden shock. He died surrounded by family and at 19 and was purring so it’s as good as can be hoped but I still miss him. Every day, every night.
Anonymous No.64181720
>>64181546
> Quiet
Quite
Anonymous No.64181726
>64181638
Notwithstanding, I'm gonna score that 200 come Hell or highwater

>>64181698
It's been some time since I've looked through A1 sights so you'd know better than me at this point

>>64181698
>red dot for a sa-35
Wouldn't you have to get the slide milled? Just put a fiber optic front sight and call it a day
Anonymous No.64181788
>>64180018
DIY before was daunting since getting sear surfaces right was hard but there are multiple “drop in” ignition systems now like EGW, Atlas (EGW+), or Nighthawk which is what I used since I got it on sale
Anonymous No.64181808
>>64180514
His point is that the PDP is very brutalist cyberpunk so you should go brutal on the optic. Big. Square. Ugly.

Steiner MPS
Anonymous No.64182226 >>64182394
Guys Ben Stoeger says that the Kimber 2k11 is amazing and after he gets used to it he will probably prefer it over his Staccatos.
Is it over, Staccatosisters?
Anonymous No.64182267 >>64182363 >>64182435
Are you guys drawing from a holster to do the course of fire?
Anonymous No.64182308 >>64182353
Also, if we’re shooting 25 rounds total, shouldn’t the scores be out of 250, not 300?
Anonymous No.64182353 >>64182395
>>64182308
It’s 30 rounds, I fucked up the count in stage 1
Anonymous No.64182358 >>64182377
>>64177911
The military HP is fucking weak.
>if you can get it.
I just bought a case of GD delivered for .52 a round. I've seen it even cheaper. There are three 9mm HD rounds to buy:
>speer 124 fmj for practice
>speer gd 124 + p
>fkm 80 tui +p
Anonymous No.64182363
>>64182267
Ideally you should but not all ranges allow it. Or do all anons have shot timers, it’s a honor system.

A super quick draw here isn’t going to really win any points
Anonymous No.64182377 >>64182421
>>64182358
ME isn’t a good indicator of performance in 9mm, M1153 seems to have similar fps as other 147 gr JHPs.
Anonymous No.64182394 >>64182492 >>64182584
>>64182226
>this infamous troll who gets paid to shoot so his guns are basically a work expense sez x
Wow. He recently said you should buy a Glock over a PDP because there's more gizmos available so fuck his opinion.
>buying a kimber for the same money as a staccato
lol
Anonymous No.64182395 >>64182435
>>64182353
Okay, so we do 10 rounds at 25 yards?
Anonymous No.64182421
>>64182377
>M1153 seems to have similar fps as other 147 gr JHPs.
Yes. Which is inferior to 124 +p in everything but gel. Theres no reason to buy anything but GD 124 +P unless you got a cripple gun that needs a ballistic tip to load an HP round.
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64182435 >>64182458 >>64182460
>>64182267
I don't have any belt holsters, so I started with pistols laying on the bench

I tried a shot timer app but it wasn't picking up any shots so I used a regular timer with +5 seconds instead. So for the 15 second strings I started a timer at 20s then waited until 15s to begin

>>64182395
5+5 at 25 yards
5+5 at 15 yards (15s per 5 shot string)
5+5 at 15 yards (10s per 5 shot string)
Anonymous No.64182458
>>64182435
>all that illumination
Must be nice
Anonymous No.64182460
>>64182435
>start with pistols on bench
Roger, that’s what I’m going to do, because ye olde boomer range doesn’t like holster draws.
Anonymous No.64182492 >>64182573
>>64182394
Kimber 2k11 is around $1990 for the polymer grip module and stainless steel.
Anonymous No.64182494
>>64181546
>If that’s how you have to work big sights then what’s the point in ever having big sights though?
They're big and easy to see at speed, and inside 25yds they don't cover a person sized target so you can just put them on a motherfucker and go
If you get to the skill level where you're throwing 0.3 or better splits in drills you'll start to understand why old school techniques were to "point shoot" with WWI pistols and why sights got bigger. You can't use those old blade sights at speed.
>Can I use your stance thing with Chapman and PowerPoint or should I just switch two hand to isosceles?
It would benefit your shooting to just use isosceles
>I hated isosceles because the foot work makes you recoil susceptible if you’re not big or a fat as
Stop chick leaning, don't blame the superior recoil control stance for your bad posture.
Anonymous No.64182553 >>64182560 >>64183026
>>64181546
My 1911 sights are big chonky bitches compared to, say, a makarov
Anonymous No.64182560 >>64182572 >>64182649 >>64182900
>>64182553
10 yard sight picture
Anonymous No.64182564 >>64182592 >>64182639
2 handed for the fbi drill right? Its basically the nra gallery match course.

I would like a new handgun but everything i see just doesnt give me that spark. Feels like every modern gun is exceptionally bland. I dont know what the perfect gun would be but its out there.
Anonymous No.64182572 >>64182592
>>64182560
>My front sight is a bit low, difficulties of photography
Point is, this was shot at over twice that distance with one hand.
The sights aren't a limitation, if you learn to shoot.
Anonymous No.64182573
>>64182492
Oh. I had a TLE II I got stupid cheap. No complaints, gun ran. No light rail or optic cut so I sold it Still not buying a 2K Kimber.
Anonymous No.64182584
>>64182394
I think the PDP is stupid looking so maybe Ben is on to something
Anonymous No.64182592 >>64182639 >>64182669
>>64182572
And she shoots close and fast just fine too

>>64182564
I like HK for polymer guns because they're high quality and interesting. There's also a plethora of decade or two old designs that are neat. Or you could get a bond arms bullpup (I have an original Boberg)
Anonymous No.64182639 >>64182669
>>64182592
Which, for the record, is also chunky sighted and shoots just fine at 25yds. It's DAO as well.

>>64182564
Oh, and yes, it's a two handed drill.
Anonymous No.64182649 >>64182673
>>64182560
>30 foot bedroom
wtf?
Anonymous No.64182669 >>64182700 >>64182845
>>64182592
My buddy has a usp that makes me kind of want a mk23 but man $2000 for a handgun is kind of a lot.
The newer HKs are kind of ugly imo. I know thats a stupid reason to discount them but most of my guns are just toys.
Running the list theres some gaps but nothing really.
Ruger mkii
Ruger .22 revolver
Smith model 29
Cz75
Colt trophy gold cup
Ria 1911
Nagant
Smith 659 and 645
Smith model 21
Glock 19
92fs

I think thats all of them. Its not like im doing bad im just not in love with any of them like i used to.

>>64182639
Cool. Il probably miss the deadline bit il shoot it next chance i get.
Anonymous No.64182673 >>64182736
>>64182649
Unfortunately my bed, computer desk, and radioactive items display case take up the corners of the bedroom that would give me more than 7 yards so I had to go to my upstairs living room. That's a front door.
Anonymous No.64182700 >>64182740
>>64182669
Man, that's a solid fucking spread. Cool collection man.
If you just want to gunsoom might I suggest a hand canon? It's big, loud, retarded, throws fireballs like a wizard, and it's an armalite 180 inside.
Anonymous No.64182736
>>64182673
If the entertainment center didn't block the fucking hallway I probably could have gotten a solid 20 yard photo
Anonymous No.64182740 >>64182795
>>64182700
Thanks man, its a decent collection. Part of my issue is that i dont really feel like theres any holes, every use case or type is pretty much covered.
I dont think another gun will actually solve my problem but over the last few years ive stopped shooting much. I want to get back into it but i dont get excited about range trips like i used too.
Fireballs might be good. Half of why i was looking at a mk23 was to shoot stupid hot .45.
Anonymous No.64182795 >>64183107
>>64182740
Back in the 90s an old man at a gun and pawn saw me looking at norinco AKs and gave me a piece of advice. "The addiction doesn't get better, accept that now."
Once you get over that you're free to buy calico's and shit and just enjoy the dumb without trying to justify the why.

I have a Mk23 and I've done the 45 super 185gr 1400+fps stuff, a tarded magnum like 500, 50AE, or 45winmag scratches the itch infinitely better.
The Mk23 absolutely fucks suppressed though.
Anonymous No.64182808 >>64183026
>>64181712
I'm glad the cat you anally raped and screamed your mentally ill fantasies every night can finally rest from you. Think how relieved your family is going to be when you finally die
Anonymous No.64182845
>>64182669
After September there’s going to be a different challenge/qualification
Anonymous No.64182900 >>64183052
>>64182560
15 yards, the minimum distance in the drill this month.

>>64177426
And the performance at that distance
Anonymous No.64182941
>no target height specified in course of fire
Maybe this won't be so bad after all
Anonymous No.64183026 >>64183052
>>64182808
Ever going to take an English class?
Weed and Lube talk more fluently than you.
>>64182553
Tisas A1 has lil sights
Anonymous No.64183037
>>64179653
Trannnies, Taurus, and Troons...oh my!
Anonymous No.64183052 >>64183105 >>64183145
>>64183026
>Tisas A1 has lil sights
Cool, that's completely irrelevant? My gun that I'm at the heels of burt's red dot qual with have big fat sights.
Big fat sights aren't a hindrance

>>64182900
25 yards on B8 full size
>Aiming from a dark basement into the full sun makes the sights appear thinner in a photograph, to the naked eye the front sight fills the "8" ring on a B8 target
Anonymous No.64183105
>>64183052
Also, I'm intentionally taking pictures with the black 9/10/X showing above my sights for scale. With my actual zero hold you can't see the black target at all
Anonymous No.64183107 >>64183123
>>64182795
Ive been trying to find a good deal on a grizzly mkV for a while now. They dont pop up very often and when they do people want crazy money. I could just get a mkI but if im spending that money i want to get the right one.
MK23 is for solid snake larping as well. Id get a suppressor eventually for it. There arent many firearms that still have that kind of legendary mystic status these days.
Anonymous No.64183123 >>64183148
>>64183107
Based, my buddy just bought a LAR Toklat in 45winmag and we're waiting for the fuddbroker boomer to ship it.
We're gonna blast watermelons
Anonymous No.64183145 >>64183178
>>64183052
I never had a fat sight till the Springfield and it’s so jarring that I want to switch for red dot
Anonymous No.64183148 >>64183178
>>64183123
Damn that exactly how i wanted to set up my hypothetical mk23. I was thinking maybe an acro but i hear mixed results. rmr is never a bad option if in doubt.
If you ever want to sell it offer it up here first.
A desert eagle might be fun too. Ive never handled one in person but ive heard theyre very pleasent to shoot in .357 if youre able to get one with all the barrels.

Watermelons and pumpkins are some of the most fun targets you can get.
Anonymous No.64183178 >>64183239
>>64183145
Red dots are cool, I gave you the blocks you need to build your skills with regular modern irons and you're just ignoring it outright. Go to the fucking range and practice.

>>64183148
I will be buried with this gun, it is my most favorite gun.
I know a couple people with ACRO Mk23s and I strongly prefer the RMR. However, it is very BLUE, a holosun would unironically be the functionally better choice. (But a holochang on a Mk23 is gonna send you straight to hell for crimes against capitalism)

Watermelons are great for getting new shooters into the horsepower cartridges
Anonymous No.64183239 >>64183279
>>64183178
Maybe an rcr would be a decent fit. Its such a huge gun the mailbox dots dont bother me much. They look stupid on a glock 19 but the right size for the mk23.
That looks like an incredibly fun and silly setup. What is that stock adapter?

My local range is pretty gay and doesnt let me shoot at vegetables.
Anonymous No.64183279
>>64183239
Hey man if you get one it's your gun, do what makes you happy. I just, personally, fo not like them for shooting. They look dope as fuck though
Chassis is from WL WERNER, they do some hilariously stupid shit for the Mk23 (like a 2liter bottle muzzle adapter)