Thread 64178355

Only pre-ww2 classes.
What's your favourite?
For me it's the Asty CA 34

County's are peak cruiser
but I do have a soft spot for the Italians

SusSEX

>>64178374
Damn

>>64178439
They'd have looked better with 8inch guns desu

>>64178452
Woops, I got county mixed up with town. I'll see myself out.

>>64178470
Nobody's getting out, post cruisers

Takao sexo

>>64178513
Is that normal bunker oil?

endling

It could be a smokescreen, or it could be black smoke added to hide some information.

>>64178355 (OP)
For me is this Frog ship.
>>64178374
Itals were "treaty" only in name.
The reality they were cheating fucks and so were their Cruisers!

>>64178374
>>64178439
based County-class enjoyers

>>64180873
but they looked good doing it so they're alright in my book

>>64178513
But she's overweight, not as obese as the Germans but still.

>>64180938
Ever noticed that County Classes pre-WW2 ran very high on the waterline and then during WW2 after they got a refit they seemed to fit perfectly on the waterline? >>64178439

Anyway posting the Wichita as she is technically a treaty Cruiser.

>>64181059
How long would planes last like that in the open?

>>64181068
As long as they were secured down properly? As long as they needed?

>>64180991
Germans had no treaty cruisers because they weren't let into the Washington Naval Treaty.
The treaty of Versailles set an upper limit of 10,000t for displacement, same as the limit for cruisers under the Washington treaty, but no limit on the cannon size.

>>64178355 (OP)
Countys were the best 1st gen Treaty cruisers
The best was probably American. New Orleans perhaps

That is, only counting those which obeyed the treaty

>>64181111
Quads confirm, literally the only problem with the County's was their overly complicated main turret design

>>64181111
This would be the only answer unless willing to extend to not necessary Treaty Cruisers but ships that conformed to treaty limits i.e. the Dutch Cruisers?

The Canarias is technically a treaty ship even if it looks like a hybrid of a County and a Zara

>>64181194
>hybrid of a County and a Zara
She is _technically_ based on a County design, just with a modified machinery layout (and sacrificing the attractive triple funnel layout) and a slightly narrower beam

>>64181096
Anon, the Admiral Hippers were 16,000 tons, of that's not obese, I don't know what is.

>>64181286
Would you really call them pre-WW2? Hipper was launched in 1939.

>>64181309
Laid down in 1935, so design is definitely pre-WW2

>>64181309
Laid down in 1935, so design is definitely pre-WW2
They even sold an incomplete one to the soviets.

>>64181154
>Dutch Cruisers
De Ruyter wasn't anywhere near a Town class
Any treaty heavy cruiser had a significant edge in its 8" armament

>>64181126
By the time of the London subclass they were pretty much sorted out
The Countys' main problem was the lack of armour

>>64180991
ikr, that's hot as hell!

>>64181392
>By the time of the London subclass they were pretty much sorted out
I don't think I'll ever change my opinion that providing them with super elevating 8" turrets for anti aircraft engagements was a poor design choice

>>64178355 (OP)
They are more "treaty adjacent" than real treaty cruisers, but I really like the Veinticinco de Mayo class. They are pretty unique too, as I believe they are the only modern "heavy cruisers" ever used by a South American navy

>>64181392
>De Ruyter wasn't anywhere near a Town class
That's true but there were some considerations when designing the De Ruyter to give her 8inch guns instead which I think would have been interesting to see.

>>64181575
>kettle room

>>64180907
SEXO!

But fid these ships leave the Med? Were they tested in ocean water?

>>64181059
Is that a Catalina??

>>64181595
They made it to China and back?
>>64181599
Hard to 100% confirm but based on angles yes.

County.

>>64181827
Should be called the Comfy class

Any of the IJN cruisers. Nothing looks as beautiful to me.

>>64182073
>IJN cruiser
>treaty

>>64182187
Japan was one of the five powers behind the treaty.
https://treaties.fcdo.gov.uk/data/Library2/pdf/1924-TS0005.pdf

>>64182279
Yeah I know
They also more or less ignored it, other than the Furutakas and Aobas

>>64182337
Furutaka's are good too! Just wish there were more images of them with the original six single turrets.

Also all that glass on the bridges. I bet it gave stunning views...and was likely hazard to the crews.

>>64182404
Good for visibility against attacking aircraft and submarines.
The RN played with closed bridges on and quickly reverted to open bridges. Following complaints probably.

They only built enclosed bridges after radar took over

>>64182475
I'm always amazed how long open bridges remained a thing. It makes sense when the primary concerns were (sub)surface threats, but once you have to worry about planes strafing or bombing? No thanks.

>>64182567
Trying to spot planes from closed bridges turned out to be more deadly, simple as
Protection didn't really matter because aircraft bombs and cannon can pierce the bridge anyway, the main benefit of enclosing the bridge is protection from weather
If you can't see it you can't shoot it

York-class because it's one of those funny designs that results when a country tries to follow its treaty obligation and ends up with tiny smol cruiser

>>64181096
>The German Government favour, in the matter of limitation of naval armaments, that system which divides naval vessels into categories, fixing the maximum tonnage and/or armament for vessels in each category, and allocates the tonnage to be allowed to each Power by categories of vessels.
Sounds to me like Germany agreed to the WNT/LNT system of limits.

Where are my frogboo bros?

>>64182621
York had nothing to do with the Treaty, it was about getting more minimum ships for trade protection
and they were pretty good designs for the purpose

>>64182782
Read up the thread anon? She has already been posted.

>>64182718
That's the 1935 treaty perfidious Albion used to stop Nazi Germany from building more cruisers and subs and focus on memes like battleships and aircraft carriers that never came to fruition before the war started and made all treaties void and meaningless.
The democratic German government that ordered the Deutschland class had hoped the major powers would let them into the treaty system and revise those parts of the Versailles treaty.

>>64182882
brb, going to kms from missing her