Thread 64196133

>>64196190
DO IT AGAIN, BOMBER BILLY

>>64196190
+1

>>64196133 (OP)
it's serbia greatest victory since they betrayed europe for the ottomans

>>64196133 (OP)
I mean it made turdies actually think they had a chance against modern planes, which the ragheads in Iran learned to their sorrow

>>64196133 (OP)
what else should've they made the huge point of pride instead? sitting on a bottle?

>>64196133 (OP)
pics or it didnt happen

Everyone else would do the same. It was and is a pretty big deal. Not many people can say they shot down a U.S fighter jet.

>Look we have literal alien tech nobody can defeat and the largest GDP spent on military aviation
>Nobody can sink our aircraft
>Aircraft gets sunk once by only them
>Nooo you cant gloat about that

>>64196133 (OP)
>Have a wundewaffe.
>Lose it to a combination of being an incompetent retard yourself and running into a particularly talented guy on the other end.
>Cope and seethe 30 years later.
Vatnik pidor (forma del mutt) thread.

>>64196133 (OP)
Has anyone else been able to do it? Well???

>>64197255
>noooo you can't gloat about that
nobody said that, you can do it.
it's supremely embarrassing and pathetic that it's the only thing that you can gloat about with regards to serbia, but you can technically do it.

>>64197267
>a wundewaffe.
In 1999 that would have been and F-22 anon, the F-117 entered service in 1983.

>>64197267
>>64197255
I mean you guys need to have something to distract yourselves from the fact that your leaders are letting the chinks silent spring and fifth column your homeland.

But hey at least you're not "under NATO control" like everyone else in Europe.
(In case you're dense, reminder that the euros and US are always fighting with each other over NATO spending and policies)

>>64197255
>bragging about one success caused by pure luck out of 38,000 sorties
I don't have enough adjectives to describe the level of cope this is

>>64196133 (OP)
Well it's the only thing in the whole history of serbia they have to be proud of.

>>64197255
can i gloat that serbs look like turks?

>>64197267
>1970s era technology
>wunderwaffe

>>64196190
based

>Haha! We shot down a single OLD stealth plane by pure dumb luck!
>We beat the US!
They say as the bombings continued

>>64196133 (OP)
It is significant because the wreckage was smuggled to the Chinese Embassy and hence kickstarted the stealth fighter research in China and Russia. The US BOMBED THE CHINESE EMBASSY (wtf?) but it was too late. The pilot should have been courtmartialed and shot for willful incompetence. He flew the exact same flight path like he's flying an airliner, day in day out. The Serbs took notice and placed an AA gun under the flight path. Because of this useless pilot, the Chinks are only 10 years behind the US in stealth tech instead of 40 years.

>>64197255
>>Nobody can sink our aircraft
>sink
...nani-desu?

>>64198069
I mean, it isn't a wrong way to say it and it is technically correct. You can shoot down a ship because it goes down, and you can sink a plane because it sinks to the ground. The atmosphere and water are both liquids. You can just breathe one and not the other.

Not much else to take pride in for Serbians.

>>64197955
>The pilot should have been courtmartialed and shot for willful incompetence.
The pilot wasn't responsible for the mission planning.

>>64197955
>10 years instead of 40
My memory may be wrong here, but I'm almost certain the F-117's type of radar redirection-reflection stealth came from publicly available russian acedemic research from the 40s and 50s.

And to address your actual words,
The F-117 shootdown had jack squat to do with the data hack of the F-35 project's files. THAT is why China is "only 10 years behind instead of 40" and even then, the claim is erroneous and unmeritable. More like 10 instead of 20. Knowledge of tech doesn't exist in a vaccuum.

Also, lmao, 4chan is death spiralling isn't it. They're lowtax'ing it.

>>64196133 (OP)
It's not like Serbians have some rich history of world conquest or scientific achievement to otherwise be proud of. A national mythos and sense of self worth betters humanity, so let the underdog have their small W.

>>64197242
"fighter".....that only dropped bombs badly.

Cool looking though, especially for its time.

>>64196133 (OP)

Didn't they lose Kosovo?

>>64198155
>F-117's type of radar redirection-reflection stealth came from publicly available russian acedemic research from the 40s and 50s.
Ufimtsev developed a math formula that was used to model the F-117, he never designed any aircraft or even imagined that it could be used like that, and neither did his superiors which is why they openly published his work. The whole story is grossly overblown really and knowing the details makes the "people" using it to deflect or detract from the soviet scientific backwardness makes it look really pathetic.

>>64198770
Yeah yeah yeah I checked the wiki article after I posted too.
Ok so HAVE BLUE based itself on a 1967 paper that itself was further work from theoretical ideas going as far back as...1927? I believe? Or even earlier it depends on the scope of interrelated science research you're willing to consider.
>the whole story is grossly overblown
No the real story is as factually explicit as one csn get.

ANYWAYS the f-117 is a marvel, in hindsight, only in that the clowns of yesteryear were so limited in "mindscope" that they couldn't conceive smooth shape radar reduction completely in opposition to prior works (the yf-12 from 15 years earlier) showing certain smooth shapes and extension patterns proving rcs reduction within specific angle regimes.

Further, the F-117 can fundamentally be described as a plane intended to counter 1960s/70s grade SAMs, to which it excelled at, but in no way a miracle of research or science.
>the computers we had just couldn't do any better than flat angled plates even though we knew better was achievable
Pathetic. Absolutely fucking pathetic. I would not have stood for it if I were any man in a hot seat of control.

And it was still the only and most effective stealth craft of its era.
What you should take away from my ramblings is not the negative, but instead how my "hindsight 20/20" criticism shows of just how easy it actually is to make a major step forward.

>>64197955
>10 years
lol. Chinks can't even make stealth coatings

>>64198757
Yes, but the US lost a plane so it was a tie

>>64196133 (OP)
>"it's not a big deal, we just prematurely retired the F-117 because...uh...we felt like it

>>64198994
>prematurely
dear thirdie, words have meaning.
it was retired from combat missions 9 years after the shootdown, 25 years after it got indroduced (but it still gets used for excercises from time to time 2023 was the last time i think).
besides by 2008 the b2 was in service for 15 years, the f22 for 3 years and the f35 had its first flight 2 years prior.

>>64198994
A10 also got retired
Did mighty Serbia shoot that down too?

That's good, now it's all about making F35s drop out of the sky using their own built in kill switches.

Also, Serbs proven superior to Iranians.

>>64198088
The atmosphere is not liquid you retarded fuck.
>it isn't a wrong way to say it and it is technically correct.
Bot or retarded Indian? Call it.

>>64199467
The only difference between a gas and a liquid is density.

>>64198994
The F-117 was objectively a piece of shit one trick pony. Abysmal flight characteristics and payload of 2xMk84 with guidance kits, but that one trick it had was such a huge overmatch against any cold war era system that it was worth making. Arguably the F-22 was the first thing to make the F-117 obsolete.
>>64200221
The english word you are looking for is fluid dear ESL

>>64196133 (OP)
gg

>>64197255
>aircraft
>sink
sasuga frogposter

>>64200347
You do know that there are multiple words for the same thing, right? It seems your grasp on such things isn't very solid.

>>64200369
Gas and liquid are both fluids.
The atmosphere, a (collection of) gas(es), is not a liquid.

There are multiple words with SIMILAR meaning but only have one meaning in one context.
I know you turdies like to say English is dumb and easy and stupid somehow, but clearly the asbtraction of concept required to actually understand the language eludes you people.

>>64200486
I tend to disagree. Your statements on liquids are not very solid. In fact I could say that your understanding on the matter is quite solidus.

there is some serbian war thunder streamer i watch occasionally and 50% of the time he spends talking about how Serbia shot down not just one of these but like 20 of them

>>64196133 (OP)
Like this, but much more lame.

>>64196133 (OP)
Bruh who cares, let them have their cope shot. They're a land locked rump state whom will probably never get that slither of Kosovo they want so badly and Tito is le dead, and their only other bragging point is that they make really nice export AK's which are kind of an obsolete platform at this point.
It's no different than Britbongs being nostalgic for the days when they basically ruled half of the world.

>>64200724
The weirdest part for me is that Belgrade doesn't even have a metro. Even Bulgaria has a metro.

I wonder if any of the opinions here were influenced by my serbposting

>>64198994
Lmao

>>64200369
The atmosphere is not a liquid you utter mongoloid faggot

>>64201151
Actually, the atmosphere has water vapor in it, and clouds are also just water

>>64200934
>Wahhh they don't have any reddit wagons on rails
Go back /n/igger
[spoiler]Kidding, trains are pretty comfy and make sense in densely packed cities along with basic bike lanes an what not.[/spoiler]

>>64196133 (OP)
Its like the movie 300 where the MC chucks a spear at the god emperor's face and rips a gold ring off his skin. In the end the spartans all got demolished but they still spat in his eye.

>>64201151
Gas is a liquid.

>>64201246
Gas is a fluid not a liquid retard

>>64201258
Propane is a liquid, yet is used in gas form

checkmate

>>64196133 (OP)
Wait isn't this still the only stealth aircraft to ever be shot down?

>>64201258
liquid is a fluid, gas is a fluid, liquid is a gas

>>64201170
>>64201246
Kys

>>64201278
There has probably been others but this one is more well known

>>64201280
I refuse

>>64201280
saar pls
why you do such

>>64201287
>There has probably been others but this one is more well known
Huh? Do you actually think this?
My disbelief is not because it is impossible for a stealth aircraft to be shot down, but because there are only 2-3 countries with stealthy aircraft, and those countries haven't really fought any peer wars, with the exclusion of Russia.
So... yea... Serbia is the only country to have ever shot down a stealth aircraft, and they did it once.

>>64201273
You contradict yourself, read a dictionary. If propane is used in gas form then it's a gas.

>>64201279
You post that shit. You are gay. Your post is gay.

>>64201309
>Do you actually think this?
I was thinking of other planes probably, but Serbia being the only country to ever shoot down a stealth aircraft sounds absurd (even though it is true)

>>64201311
Propane is in a liquid form when stored, so in it's default state it is a liquid, but when released can be a gas

>>64201288
Fuck off you dumb paki

>>64201345
>but Serbia being the only country to ever shoot down a stealth aircraft sounds absurd (even though it is true)
I give it a 11.7% chance that Ukraine will down a Su-57 at some point.

>>64201246
How are people like you alive?

>>64201427
By buying only quality propane and propane accessories I tell you what

>>64201279
And we are bleach.

>>64201345
It can only be a liquid or gas not both.

>>64201573
Actually...

>>64201591
Good thing neither propane or the atmosphere is in that state

>>64201597
Yes, but that's not what was said earlier. It was said that they COULD ONLY be a liquid or gas, but not both, but not only is that incorrect, but we know at what temperature it happens, and propane also has a triple point.

>>64201616
Correction: temperature and pressure.

>>64196190
my side

>>64196133 (OP)
Wouldn't you?

>>64202576
Why would I care? I'm an American and we've basically made it a tradition to shoot down an entire country every 20 years or so.

What else should they be gloating about?
>dude remember that time the concrete canopy chinks built for our main railway station collapsed and killed 15 people? haha yeah based fuck the eu

>>64198088
The atmosphere isn't a liquid what the fuck are you talking about?

>>64201309
Me in the second plane cockpit pretending I'm carpet bombing Gaza

>>64198994
It's still in service and has recently been flying missions in the middle east for some reason

>>64202581
>American
>incapable of putting himself in anyone else's shoes
At least you stay in character at all times.

>>64196133 (OP)
>serbia
That shoot down is a point of pride of the entire 3rd world as evidence that american stealth planes are actually super easy to shoot down.

>>64202581
Well at least the Serbian sleeper agents got some revenge in Colorado

>>64203257
Personally I'm fine with them having their false sense of security, it makes bullying them with stealth planes even easier.

If we are talking about stealth losses, Ukraine blew up 2 su-57s on the ground. Honestly not protecting your airfields is even more embarrassing.

>>64196133 (OP)
The best part is that the battery commander responsible was an ethnic Hungarian.

>>64196133 (OP)
How many did you shoot down anon?

>>64203897
Big if true.

>>64201240
>In the end the spartans all got demolished
There is no "but", they got erased. It accomplished a goal and all but take the hoorah out of it and they still lost the objective.

>>64201345
There is no default state, there is earth normal at 72 degrees, 200m above sea level and 27 degrees north longitude.
Calling that "normal" and propane being stored under pressure as "not normal", it's "default state" is a gas.
Faggot.

Behold, a stealth bomber (according to s*rb AA)

>>64204380
I do wonder if you could make a stealth plane that's basically the opposite of the F35
>Boring dirt cheap slow as fuck unmaneuverable fixed wing biplane/airplane (but maybe with jet engines since I assume it's impossible to make a propeller stealthy) that could be shot down by the Red Baron in his biplane
>But it's also got as close to perfect radar stealth as possible
So you can have a fleet of small planes not worried about AA or long range a2a going around doing cargo drops, recon, small paratroop teams, filling them with explosives and an autopilot and yeeting them at distant refineries, etc

>>64201345
That's more because stealth planes are to expensive to put in dangerous situations than because of stealth itself.

>>64200369
>liquid and gas are distinct internationally recognized distinct phase states of matter
>so much so humanity has learned to identify and replicate the precise conditions under which almost all matter we interact with will undergo a phase state change between the two
>No gas and liquid are interchangable words
I mean all you're doing is proving you're subhuman.

>>64209371
Look, there are societies calling ice "hard water" due to never experiencing winter.

>>64209403
lol subhuman can't grasp that combining two words can create a new word.
hard = solid, firm, and rigid; not easily broken, bent, or pierced.
water = a colorless, transparent, odorless liquid that forms the seas, lakes, rivers, and rain and is the basis of the fluids of living organisms.
hard-water (in some languages) = ice
hard-water in english = water with high levels dissolved minerals

i am so sick of retards like you. dont reporduce and kill yourslef.

dumbass.

>>64209461
I was agreeing with you if you haven't noticed, I'm just saying that anon who can't distinguish between liquid and gas is probably calling ice "hard water" in his native language.