Thread 64197733

Okay, so I am looking for a nicer more feature complete 9mm handgun to keep near my nightstand incase Jamal breaks in, but more importantly to be able to run tons of rounds through it for fun at the range with minimal issues.

I am coming from a Ruger P89 that has seen better days. I am considering an M9A4 since from the factory as it ticks all the boxes that me giggle like a retard that just discovered roblox;
Hammer Fired
Holds 15+ rounds
Under barrel rails
Threaded Barrel
Optics Ready

$1200 is a lot to dump on a handgun. Before I make this financially irresponsible decision I'd like to know if /k/ knows of any other handguns with the same feature set that are not dogshit?

>>64197733 (OP)
The stock optic cut on the berettas kind of suck, the aftermarket LTT cut is better

>>64197733 (OP)
I'm pretty sure a 92x has all of that minus the threaded barrel which is like 200. I think that would all be under 1000 and you'd have a spare barrel. Not sure if the barrel needs fitting or not though.

>>64197733 (OP)
For what you are asking for, that’s a really good option. If the cz75 omega was still being produced I would have thrown that into the list. I’m personally married to the DWX. But 2011 hybrids arnt for everyone.

>>64197776
Beretta OEM threaded barrels can be had for like 160 on a big Beretta website sale and should not take any fitting at all.

>>64197793
Well there you go op. Pretty much the same thing you posted for 8-900

>>64197733 (OP)
Laugo Alien

>>64197733 (OP)
You want >>64197754 with the Steiner optic.
>>64197793
They're almost perpetually out of stock because they're really popular.

>>64197733 (OP)
You want an m9. Maybe a 92 if you don't plan to deck it out, but if you want to do that, just go for the m9

>>64197733 (OP)
If you like Berettas get a Beretta. You'll probably shoot it at a testing range once and put it away forever. Most here will recommend a CZ75 variant or their EAA Witness clones. They're far more comfortable than a Beretta which are considered some of the most uncomfortable handguns. If you aren't set on steel frame there's the HK hammerfire handguns. FN also had the FNX which is a cheaper version of a USP with full ambi controls.

>>64198056
>$6,000

These would sell like hotcakes if they actually had a realistic price, they'd be the new meta. They could get government contracts if they got the price down to $600, still well over what they actually cost to make, and stopped with the meme aesthetics and made them look professional. Memes aside it's a great design.

>>64197733 (OP)
>The B&T MK-II has all these features.
>The SIG P229 Pro just needs an aftermarket threaded barrel.
>The FNX .45 Tactical has all the features but is not 9mm.

>>64198299
I've owned a 75B, FNP, FNX, USP, VP9, 1911 in both 9 and 10, and currently own an M9A4. The M9 is better and more comfortable to shoot than every one of them except the 75B, and with some work I'm certain I can make it as good. Don't trust anything from EAA.

>>64198299
>$6,000
They were $1200 at PSA just a few weeks ago. I guess they've all sold out now.

>>64197733 (OP)
Do it
The Beretta 92 is the only gun I have ever double dipped on and I am not ashamed to triple or even quadruple dip with it.
my only real gripe with the A4 is that it is FDE only.
But I'd grab one to fully trick out with optics and everything

>>64198613
Are all your 92s stock Berettas, or is one of them a custom/semi-custom like Langdon Tactical?

>>64198697
Ones an M9A1, the other is a 92FS Inox

>>64198701
Good selections.

>>64198613
been there, done that

HK P30

>>64197733 (OP)
Cz p09 optic ready version may be an option
Threaded barrels aren't horribly expensive

>>64197733 (OP)
Arex Rex Zero 1T. You can find them for $800 on gunbroker. Mine has been unfailingly reliable until I didn't clean the firing pin chamber after 3 years of shooting and I poured oil in it and it gunked up with all the carbon and made the spring slip over the firing pin. The DA trigger is bad but the single action is fine. Better QC than a modern Sig P226. Only valid complaint is that they are fucking wide. Significantly wider in the hand than the comparable sig (P226 and P229 vs Zero 1 and Zero 1C). I don't mind it because I've just gotten used to it, but that's the main complaint I hear. You can get the competition hammer spring, but I've been fine without. The trigger guard is also pretty large since it's intended for the Slovenian military to use with gloves. Also you need to make sure you get one with the second-gen grips, not the ones in this pic. I didn't realize how bad the grip scales like this were till I handled a buddy's, the 2nd gen ones are insanely better.

>>64199438
pic related is mine with the second gen grips. Gonna buy a Zero 1T soon to suppress and mount an optic on, but the 1C is my EDC in a kydex IWB holster.

>>64197733 (OP)
Nice digits OP, but rails and optics are a meme. You'd do fine with a vanilla 92FS or Sig P226.

>>64199210
I kick myself for not taking the subcompact Px4 pill

>>64199438
>>64199444
Arex is crazy good. The DA can be really patched up with one of the adjustable triggers btw

If you are in PA, I will sell you my 92fs. 5 15rd mags. $500 flat

hammer fired means nothing nowadays since guns like the FiveSeven or the Equalizer or even the Laugo Alien have internal hammers

>>64202203
Hammer fire is more reliable and can have a better trigger than striker fire. Even internal hammer, doesn't matter. Strikers are cheap shit that don't even have second strike capability.

>>64197733 (OP)
Get another p89, if you run out of rounds you can beat them to death with it. I love mine, trigger is mushy but it shoots flat as fuck

>>64197733 (OP)
Make sure you try to get an Italian made one. The ones made in Tennessee are still a QC minefield no matter how much the US-made fanboys screech. If you can't get an Italian one look over for burrs and rough spots, my TN-made one had a burr where they drilled the front sight and gouged the outside of the barrel. Also try to feel up a 92x vs 92FS in person first. I got an 92x and I've grown to hate the vertec grip more despite giving it a chance, and the grip module that mimics the original backstrap does not live up to it's name, it just doesn't fit my hand as natually as an FS. YMMV though, like buying pants from a new brand, you gotta try it on first.

>>64197733 (OP)
FNX-45T is still my go-to for all those qualifiers. It makes .45 feel effortlessly manageable.

>>64198613
>my only real gripe with the A4 is that it is FDE only.
92x with threaded barrel, works in any color including inox now.

>>64202611
If God came down to earth and said you can bring back anyone from the dead I would say Ruger p89. It's all been downhill since they went.

>>64197733 (OP)
I have been totally unimpressed with berettas qc lately. My 1301 and 92fs both had issues. Id steer you toward a cz phantom

>>64197733 (OP)
You can't do much better than a 92. The Langdon stuff is expensive but totally worth it

I will mention the px4 series also. The g-sd full size is one of the softest shooting guns, especially considering the low weight.

>>64197733 (OP)
Grand power k100 mk23

>>64202393
Everything you just said is technically wrong

M9 is great
Can get a czp09 for $600 that hits the marks if you dont mind a polymer framed and aftermarket threaded barrel

>>64197733 (OP)
Spend a bit more and get the LTT 92 Elite RDO with all the options like trigger job and carry bevel. It's one of the few custom guns that is actually worth the money and has a decent turnaround.

Well, you posted the meta choice yourself. If that's too expensive but you like Berettas, you could always pick up an older/cheaper model 92/M9 or PX4 and get the optic cut and other LTT upgrades.
>>64199214
Seconding this if OP is interested in a polymer frame handgun. I like that the safety and decocker are separate mechanisms and allow you to carry cocked and locked. Also bonus points for being able to change both the backstrap and side grip panels.

>>64199438
>arex
Literally who?

>>64200051
>utility is a meme
Neo-Fudd

>>64204552
Who did the slide cut and what rear mount is that?

bought an olight

gonna stick it on a staccato just to see how much seethe it can generate

>>64197733 (OP)
Why would anyone get this over a gen 3 Glock 19
>Why yes I want a gun that has no purpose whatsoever I sure do love buying gunko pops!

>>64210542
stupid noguns strikerslop poorfag tranny

>>64204552
>specifically buy short barrel version of pistol
>attach light that is 3" longer than the barrel
never understood why people do this

>>64211276
So the barrel doesn't cast a shadow

>>64210542
>gen 3 Glock 19
The most NPC POS ever made. Slippery plastic grip and a mag release you can't reach without adjusting grip. At least the gen 4 and onward have a more grippy texture and you can actually reach the mag release. Time to let gen 3 die, the only reason they still make it is for Califags since they have to pay to put new guns on their state approved handgun roster.

>>64208367
Primary Machine

>>64212316
Thank you.

>>64204193
>>64204389
>>64204192
>Grand Power K100
>Steyr M9
>CZ P-09
>Beretta Px4

All of these.
Can be had for reasonable prices too if you search around, patiently and thoroughly, for a barely used or NIB on the pre-owned market.

>>64206257
How new are you? Arex made a pretty big splash a few years back, all over guntube. The Zero 1 got so popular that it went from like 400 street to 700 and the Delta got enough traction to where another company licensed the design to make a carry version for the us market

>>64213420
It's a fucking Sig P226 boat anchor copy, a copy of one of the worst gun designs ever made.

>>64213549
You're a goddamn tourist

>>64213420
>The Zero 1 got so popular that it went from like 400 street to 700
Wrong. It was so UNpopular that it went from $800 to $450, where it stayed for 10 years until the gen 2 came out which they leveraged at a higher price. They literally never went up in price. Not ever.

>>64213626
lol. What are you trying to make shit up for? The supply quickly dried up as soon as it hit guntube and you'd see them on the broker for almost double. Are you trying to take some pot shots at sig because it looks like a 226? And even if you don't like that one, the Delta is a perfectly fine gun. What is this console war bullshit?

>>64213643
>Are you trying to take some pot shots at sig because it looks like a 226
That is exactly what's happening. The zero and the zero 2 were very well received.

You know it's a shitpost because the idiot said the p226 is one of the worst guns ever made.

>>64213663
Its not the worst but certainly no where near as good as its hyped up to be. My west german one was decent. I sold it to my brother. I missed that one so i bought a newer one, i had to swap the factory springs because they became too light in under 500 rounds. I broke an extractor around 1.5k rounds, fixed it, and then the replacement lasted about another 1k. I probably got a lemon or whatever but by that point i was like fuck sig even before the 320 shit happened. I still have an old weat german 220 that i like but my fucking tisas raider shoots better

>>64213692
I mean that's a cool story, and maybe it happened, but you're being a dishonest prick by writing off the entire design because of your lemon. Imagine all the shells who would crawl up my asshole if I tell them about all the failures I had on my glock.

>>64213692
Brother, people send 8k usd match guns back in for being lemons and they retain their reputation and it's certainly not something to shit on entirely different companies for. I swear to god, the gun community is such prissy babies sometimes

>>64213600
Here I have a piece of shit next to a piece of shit. I would like you to point out which piece of shit is the shittiest and one paragraph explaining why.

>>64213663
>massive
>heavy
>high bore axis
>bad manual of arms

And the Arex is just a turkshit tier copy of it. I've seen this time and time again, with the LH9, the Sphinx, OMG WE RELEASED AN UPDATED VERSION OF AN OLD CLASSIC AND IT'S NOW THE BEST GUN EVER. Then retards pay top dollar for a cleaned up piece of shit. I'm not falling for it.

>>64213777
Bro you don't even know where it comes from.

>>64213772
You don't have anything, you stole this image from a Sig forum

>>64203625

>Drunkenly bought a p89 from atlantic cause it looked neat and was cheap
>took it to the range and became one of my favorite handguns

Overbuilt hammer fired da/sa metal guns are hard to beat. S&W 5906 is my favorite with the p89 as a close second

>>64210542
Given most peoples use cases a 92 is far better than a G19. No I am not trolling. only reason you buy anything larger than a P365 or S&W Bodyguard 2.0 is for home defense or a competition gun. 92 is easier to suppress, has a nice trigger from the factory, plus the recoil is far nicer.

>>64198133
TWO GULF WARS

>>64213777
Bore axis is one of those things you think is super important until you shoot a gun with good ergos and you realize it's not a big deal

>>64199444
>>64199438
What's interesting to me is that some of these have come into the US in .32 ACP. I just think that's neat

>>64197733 (OP)
>Optics Ready
sell me on having optics on a handgun, this is your last chance before I say it's gay forever.

>>64214370
For a 9mm it really doesn't matter but still it's the sign of a big stupid badly designed gun. This retard is bragging about Arexes like they're Aliens or something. It's not a new or good design, it's some shit they threw together in 1984 that we now know is shit.

>>64216508
It's a good design, I don't know how anyone making a genuine argument could say otherwise.

>>64218013
>>64213777
>updated version
checked,
There is some element of this but if it's a good orig design as basis what's the problem?
Problem here is the Browning/SIG 220 (nice, neat as it is) is half a century old

Shadow2

>>64218233
I would like to see manufacturers make at least one (1) advancement before releasing a new model. Otherwise it's just a trick to make people buy thr same re-polished turd.

>>64218935
>>64218233
The Arex has a totally different decocker and trigger setup, and the locking block is much heavier duty. I believe they also tested the barrel to higher pressure, but that might just be something I'm misremembering from a video.

>>64213802
Who do you think posted it?

>>64213653
Yeah, tens of people loved it. I dont see either gun on the graph though

>>64219790
Probably not the guy who took the picture, who had a pretty good opinion of both.
>>64219797
I know your autism prevents you from just walking away from a conversation you stand nothing to gain from, but you just sounds like a noguns newfag.

>>64219956
>no denial detected
Glad you agree. I'm not autistic though, because I'm not an Arex owner
>here is my p226 clone
>look how different it is!

>>64219997
You posted a dumb pic. There wasn't a claim to deny

>>64220001
You own a dumb gun. There wasn't a claim to assert either

>>64221066
I get that you're shitposting. I understand, but you'd have better bants if you knew what you were talking about at least a little.

>>64221164
That's the problem, nobody knows about it. I wonder why

>>64222865
Nah, it's really just a couple guys here who want to pretend that they aren't as out of the loop as they actually are. Pretty huge channels covered the Zero 1, Reeves plugs them whenever he has an opportunity still, still see new Deltas and Zeros turn up at my LGS; I don't have to do shit to prove its success. I just want to know why you're so booty bothered by it.

>>64223379
Post militaries who adopted it.
Yeah, thought so.
>Pic literally related

>>64224071
Obviously Slovenia, who produced it, but it's actually used more by police off the top of my head. France, Poland, Belgium, Germany all use aversion of the Zero 1 in their police agencies. These were originally ordered in 32 ACP, which is a weird caliber, but they replaced him with the 9mm version. Germany had a version of the delta specifically made for their Marines. That's just what I remember from the news, I'm sure you can find more if you looked

>>64224071
Oh yeah, I still don't know why you've got this weird bitch attitude about it. Who hurt you man?

Probably a zigger just mad because people like something Slovenian.

>>64224140
NTA, he's probably from another slav country like the Czech Republic or Croatia. Extremely bothered that this product takes away some of the spotlight from CZ or HS Produkt/Springfield.

>>64224339
That's stupid, if anything more recognition that these guys make quality products helps invigorate the market for even more slav gear

>>64224350
The former Soviet states do not like other former Soviet states.

>>64224355
This is why Europe keeps tripping all over itself.

>>64224126
Literally where?

>>64224140
I like cheap laughs