Thread 64198124

>>64198124 (OP)
Why did they rename the PJDAM as ERAM when there's a missile with that acronym...

>>64198124 (OP)
Is that a lot?

>>64198181
To confuse them

GEEE BILLY DO YOU THINK IT'S TRUE..??!
DO YA BILLY..?!?? DO YA...? COME ON BILLY DO YOU THINK OLD the ukraine WILL GET THEIR ERAM MISSILES

GEE WIZ!
THIS..THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!! IM GUNNA GO AND RUN AND TELL PAW THE GOOD NEWS BILLY!!

WERE GETTING ERAMS !!!!!!!!

>>64198290
its "labor day" over here (tomorrow ackshully)
im celebrating by working

>"I AM THE AIRMEN NOW"

>>64198124 (OP)
Warcrime! How can Mr. Trump turn his back on the mighty Russian bear and expect the ass to NOT be in the ass?

>>64198797
lmao America+Russia is the most based combo imaginable

>>64198181
Yeah I was confused for a minute, thinking about the SM-6

>>64198842
yeah, based on america having to stop russia from killing itself every 30-40 years

>>64199029
>bails out Russia during Russo-Japanese War
>bails out Russia during WWII
>bails out Russia during the ’90s
>every single time russians return the favor by spitting on the yanks' face as soon as possible

>>64198797
>Russians do a psyop
>you take the bait
Tiresome

>>64198124 (OP)
What does it matter when an DoD ( soon to be DoW ) forbids using them on Russian soil?

>>64198842
nah, it's like puking on a pile of shit

>>64199063
And right now swallowing it and asking for seconds hanks to donnie

>>64198797
>How can Mr. Trump turn his back
Donald really likes money.

>>64199094
Negotiating leverage on Russia, threatening to lift the restriction of US weapons being used in Russian territory is more effective if Ukraine already has substantial numbers of them.

>>64199559
>threatening
Threats would be more effective of Donny actually did anything once in a while. Constantly threatening Russia with consequences every two weeks then extending the deadline makes your threats seem hollow.

>>64199559
>>64199562

wish in one hand, and shit in the other and see what fills up faster

>>64198124 (OP)
>Ukraine unveils Flamingo
>USA "just happens" to approve the delivery of "long-range" missiles right after
Saving face?

>>64200767
Nah, it's just a continuation of the "escalation management" that's been going on since Feb 2022.
>Germany says they can't give Leo 2's to Ukraine, that would be too much of an escalation.
>UK gives Challenger 2's to Ukraine.
>Germany suddenly decides it can give Leo 2's to Ukraine.
There's probably some poor fucker at the Pentagon who had to write a memo about why ERAMs aren't an escalation.

>>64200894
>germany says it wont send tanks piecmeal and alone and it need to happen in a coalition

>why germany no send tanks? Germany russia freen

>>64200767
If they had 3,350 Flamingos the Kremlin would be a smoldering ruin, these are not going to have the range to do that

>>64198316
this is some sort of primo schizopost
what the fuck is this saying?

>>64200973
stop talking to yourself, faggot

>>64200894
>There's probably some poor fucker at the Pentagon who had to write a memo about why ERAMs aren't an escalation.
More like Rubio had to take Hegseth's bourbon away so he stopped putting retarded restrictions in place.

>>64200996
Kek.
/k/ talks a lot about bad SecDefs like McNamara, but who was a great SecDef? Weinberger?

>>64200917
Except they made dozens of excuses
>We need tanks
>No tanks, we can't send MBT!
>But countries have sent T-62's and T-55's to Ukraine?
>Ermm... Ermmm.... NEIN NEIN NEIN THOSE AREN'T WESTERN TANKS THAT'S WHAT WE MEANT WESTERN TANKS SO HAHA
>Okay, France sends AMX's to Ukraine
>NEIN NEIN NEIN THOSE ARE WESTERN TANKS YES BUT THEY ARE NOT MAIN BATTLE TANKS SO IT IS NOT OF SAME SO NEIN WE WON'T SEND TANKS
>UK sends Western MBT
>NEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WARMONGERS!
And then they repeated this when people called for TAURUS to be sent. So yes, Germany is Russian fren.

Don't make me get the list of all the things Scholtz said that never happened lol.

>>64201270
Ostpolitik and its consequences have been a disaster for German foreign policy.

>>64200920
>>64200996
'deeps strikes' will never be approved because of the massive and un-survivable retaliation that would inevitably come in response

Iran is a good example of that strategy (it backfiring) and its consequences
>fight smarter not harder /k/!

>>64201285
The whole point of Flamingo though is that they (the Ukies) don't need approval.

>>64200917
Go and read up about the TAURUS request
>No we don't have any TAURUS, no stock
>Okay yes we have TAURUS but we can't send it to you because it is a 'bridge killer'
>Okay yes UK and France sent Storm Shadow/SCALP and the MEPHISTO warhead is not much larger than that but TAURUS is so much more advance than those, we can't send it
>Okay, yes, TAURUS isn't actually any more advanced that those but we can't send it because it is too complicated for Ukrainians to use
>Okay, yes, they managed to use Storm Shadow and SCALP so it clearly isn't too complicated the REAL reason we can't send them is because we'd have to send advisors
So, what's wrong with that Germany?
>WELL THE EVIL UK HAS ALREADY DONE THAT AND RISKS ESCALATION SO WE CAN'T RISK GERMAN TROOPS!
And that was the end of it.

>>64201285
>Implying there's any escalation steps available to monke
Any effective escalation from puccia at this point will lead to a lot of domestic conversation on "why didn't we do this sooner"
It's the same conversation as the EU deploying troops in Ukraine. The EU simply do not have an army to send to begin with, and sending troops is only being discussed as a symbolic gesture after a peace deal.

>>64198842
>pic rel
low blood pressure individual

>>64201285
Drone strikes on oil refineries has cost Russia 20% of its production of oil. Which has massively impacted their economy. Flamingo (which I believe is a weird Bong kitbash piece of equipment?) is designed specifically to hit oil refineries, ammo depots etc that are out of reach of drones WITHOUT requiring approval. If Ukraine can't get permission to use Western equipment, it'll make its own. They produce around 7 Flamingo per day. Not a huge amount but it'll help.

>>64201331
There are now three threads on the board discussing Flamingo. Nice.

>>64201285
>massive and un-survivable retaliation
With what?

>>64201331
>Flamingo (which I believe is a weird Bong kitbash piece of equipment?) is designed specifically to hit oil refineries, ammo depots etc that are out of reach of drones WITHOUT requiring approval
>>64201293
>The whole point of Flamingo though is that they (the ukies) don't need approval.

another disasterous stinky dirty episode of the perfidious albion and their suicidal self-harm tactics


I

>>64201331
I think that the ability to use Flamingos at the Uke's discretion is the most important part of that missile

>>64201285
>because of the massive and un-survivable retaliation that would inevitably come in response
Russia has been clearly reduced to desperately sending a wave after wave of drones in attempt to terrorize Ukrainians because they can hardly afford an actual push.

>>64200894
>>Germany says they can't give Leo 2's to Ukraine, that would be too much of an escalation.
>>UK gives Challenger 2's to Ukraine.
>>Germany suddenly decides it can give Leo 2's to Ukraine.
So saving face

>>64201270
Remember Germans just sending old helmets at very beginning?

>>64201386
Remember the insane range, it can outrage Tomahawks.

>>64199029
>>64199063
100 years of the US keeping them from starving, 100 years of Russia memory-holing it two weeks after

>>64201455
>memory-holing it
Anon, they actively lie to their citizens about it

>>64201447
>>64201386
its it really 'good discretion' to start sending dubiously produced cruise missiles on 'deep strikes' into Russia 30 days before winter season rolls in?

seems like a really REALLY risky gamble...

>>64201482
whats the risk? russians are going to declare a war on them?

>>64201489
>whats the risk?
running water
the power grid
the availability of vital services...

you know all the things that traditionally went away during londons 'red line jumping' episodes in the past.
except they dont live with the consequences of it and ukrainians do

>>64201507
will the gloves finally come off?

eyebrow status?

>>64201482
When does Ukraine typically hit daytime freezing temps? October?

>Gloves
Off
>Eyebrow
Raised
>VDV
Dropped
>Moskva
Returned
>Crests
Bum-touching and Peaked
>Assumptions
In the garden
>Bear
Awoken
>Tuvan
Shrugged
>Everyone
Understood
>Ass
Foamed
>Missile
Ass
>Button
Observed
>Balls
Scratched
>Munitions
Rubbered
>Red line
Approached
>Hedgehog
Aggravated
>Hands
Washed
>Potatoes
Peeled
>Cauldron
Simmering
>Apostles
Sloping
>Axis
Worked
>Trash heap
Climbed
>Pants
Gravy’d
>Vertical
Strengthened
>Coconuts
Corroded
>Forelock
Squared, sticking out
>Eggs
Being measured
>Cocks
Disposable
>Sun
Fucked
>Rooster
Pecking
>Alligator
Endangered
>Frog
Matured
>Boys
Melting
>Grad
Bloomed
>Tatar
Chumped
>Result
Out the Window
>Warheads
Pleasuring
>Tungsten
In gearbox
>Morons
Enchanted
>BTR
BT-Aren’t
>Airfield
Quietly exploding
>Square’s forelocks
Almost flew off
>Snake
Warmed up
>Elephant
Beautifully fucked
>Logistics
A real, fucking, live, fucking donkey
>Fate
Defiantly twirling on the American penis
>AD
Cucked
>Cave
Left forever
>Dicks
Lead to our brother’s ass
>Flight
Eternal

>>64201482
What they're going to do? Send in more drones?

>>64201482
I think muscovites like having heating during winters. So it should be pretty safe.

>>64201524
>October
rarely. lately winters has been so mild it barely starts freezing late november.

>>64201482
russia bombed ukrainian energy infrastructure in the middle of winter. it's time for puccians to pay.

>>64201569
>boys
Melting
Mein Neger

>>64201588
>The boys fuck until they melt
Holy omegalul

>>64201285
Oh no! Are the gloves going to come off? Will monke finally unveil the REAL Russian army he's been secretly hiding until now?

>>64201570
>What they're going to do? Send in more drones?
the concern is "where" the drones are going to be sent....not that there will simply be drones

and given the time of year the northern hemisphere is entering, you would probably want to temper the decision to escalate wildly heading into winter

>>64201615
ziggers already tried everything, there's nothing they can do but sit down and take it.

>>64201615
Oh no how concerning, not Russian drones and missiles! Who will defend those empty fields and factories that haven't existed since the fall of the USSR?!
>Load ze flamingo

>>64201615
>oops 98% interception rate
nothing personnel zigga

>>64201626
>ziggers already tried everything
compared to israeli style air campaigns, Russia hasnt even put the cartridge in the console yet by that measure
entire regions could be made 'un-livable' if the final remaining powerstations/transmission lines, water delivery, treatment & sewage/ transportation and civil service hubs were taken out

iraq/yugoslavia style consequences like nato delivered in the 90s

>Russia is now gambling their existence as a country on a war that’s going horribly
I’d almost feel bad if they didn’t start it and couldn’t just walk away at any time.

>>64201648
>gambling their existence as a country on a war that’s going horribly
lmao, but enough about israel

>>64201642
>puccian delusions
you don't even have enough fuel you dumb nigger

>>64201642
>implying Russia’s Air Force can do that

>>64201642
>comparing the destruction of a tiny ghetto with a country nearly 2,000 times larger
Is that you shalomka pidornev?

>>64201642
lmao try it ziggy
Oh wait, you already have been trying for the last 3 years.
Pro tip- threatening to do something you've been failing to do after literally years of trying is not an effective threat.

>>64201642
>like nato delivered in the 90s
it's nice to see that russian propagandists are dreaming of being somewhat like nato.
though reality insists you're no better than african tribesmen.

>>64201648
>just walk away at any time.
no nation in the history of warfare has simply thrown their hands up in the air and left a war because they didnt win it according to the time table the invadee set for them

its probably the stupidest most uniquely polish talking point to come out of nato

>>64201660
the dam above keev exists purely by the 'good will' of Russians
were Russia israel (or even ukraine) that dam would have been gone 2 years ago, as a strategic target
the point im making is there is room for 'escalation' on both sides that is prohibitively dangerous given the proximity of winter, and the implications of that season in eastern europe

>>64201664
>it's nice to see that Russian propagandists are dreaming of being somewhat like nato.

keev wouldnt have power or running water if Russia was like nato lmao
nato is ruthless lol

>>64201642
>like nato delivered in the 90s
Here we see another source of endless puccian seethe, the fact that they honestly believed they were going to have their own Iraq Invasion where they show off how powerful they are and roll right on in to take over, showing the world they are on par with those dastardly anglos!
Except, you know, they aren't even within miles of the same level as the US and instead of a quick invasion to puff their chest and look competent they are STILL getting embarrassed in new and amusing ways every single day.

Oh and don't forget
>Iraq was considered one of the strongest armies in the world at the time and they got absolutely crushed
>Ukraine was, and still is in Russia, considered one of the weakest, most corrupt, militarily incompetent and underfunded nations in the world, and yet "THE SECOND ARMY OF THE WORLD" Puccia can't even win an invasion despite YEARS of trying

>>64201671
>polish
rent free.

>>64201681
Then blow it up if you can, pussy.
Silence your yapping, oligarch dog.

>>64201642
>muh Israel
1. Russia isn't supported by USA
2. Ukraine is + Europe
3. Ukraine isn't secretly controlled by Russia unlike Hamas by Israel
4. Ukraine has ways to fight back and got land to dampen the attack

>>64201671
>time table the invadee set
Ukraine didn’t say 3 days btw.

>>64201699
dumbass

it was a comparison of israeli style 'total-war/genocide' tactics vs Russias "SMO calculus" which appears to NOT have abject ukrainian suffering as the primary objective unlike israel who has pursued some demonics strategy of collective punishment upon (((their enemy)))

>>64201710
>bombs energy infrastructure in winter
>bombs civilian infrastructure constantly
>bombs children hospital
when russia finally dies we'll be singing songs and celebrating and hoping that every single russian eats shit and suffers until the very last second of their worthless lives.

>>64201671
>polish
You mean the country you celebrate independence from?

>>64201671
I love how much Poland makes you fuckers seethe.
It gotta hurt to see Poland and the Baltics as success stories for breaking free from Russian imperialism. I pray for the day that our cousins in Belarus and Ukraine are free from you paganist heathens.

>>64201756
Please don't insult Pagans by comparing them to puccians.

>>64201762
TBF, at least the pagans don't pretend to be Christians.

>>64201642
I think comparing an densely populated slum which the kikes can't properly genocide due to a combination of cowardice and incompetence to a sparsely populated expanse of fertile steppe with a hundred times more acres of wheat and cattle than people which the Russians can't conquer due to a combination of drunkenness and incompetence isn't really accurate.

Also Russia is full of Chabad jews including the Prime Minster who larps as Orthodox.

>>64201736
To be fair the children's hospital was likely either shitty intel or shitty aim. Baby cripples aren't a military asset worth a missile.

>>64201791
russians tried every terror bombing campaign they could muster.
>they didn't akshually try hitting the hospital
they fucking did and they fucking gloated about it all over their social media.

>>64201710
Russia totally would bomb Ukraine into rubble if they had enough bombs for that.

>>64201784
>>64201819
It wasnt a 'comparison' of israeli style war to Russian,
it was the observation that should ukraine engage in obviously provacative 'deep strikes' using dubiously produced missiles, there still remains a great deal of "escalation chemistry" on the Russian side, as evidenced by how far israel has taken their escalation vs Russias

>>64201843
difference is russia is dismantled through and through.
they lost their bombers they can't do shit anymore but cube and seethe.
kinda like what you're doing throughout this whole thread.

>>64201010
Unironically:
Austin
Gates
Mattis
Weingarten
Panetta

>>64199559
Where is the threat? Flamingo can already hit deep into Russia.

>>64201582
I'm wondering if Ukies just having the red birds is going to change Russia's calculus regarding winter attacks on civilian heating infrastructure (just as I type this out I realize it won't)

>>64201507
Russian strikes barely dent those services. Your water is off for a few days while they send water trucks, oh no! The horror!

>>64201843
No you retard, they're stuck because they are out of gas. Fucked. Nukes don't even work.
Fuck you lying nigger.

>>64201857
>difference is Russia is dismantled through and through.

ok.. in reality they are NOT, and in fact are functioning at their highest pace in literal decades and to pretend otherwise is like arguing the sky is green and its absolutely disingenuous and cynical dogshit to make that argument

>>64202430
>Your water is off for a few days while they send water trucks, oh no! The horror!
alotta girlfriends blowing diarreah into plastic-bags from her flats stinky bathroom inbetween tho
>imagine the smell

>>64201710
>We weren't ACTUALLY trying to win

If yanks can't cope like that, neither can you, Ivan.

>>64202658
If Russia could do all that, they already would have. They don't because they're weak.

>>64202658
>most racist Aryan man in the world when he gets an atom of attention from a mongoloid woman

>>64202679
>>64202745
>israeli brains spotted
not every nation defaults to 'total war' strikes on civilians

the reality is, Russia could have inflicted absolutely surreal critical damage with strategic weapons the first 48hrs keev was paralyzed and surrounded at the beginning of the "full scale invasion" yet did not (where israel absolutely would have)

this MUST be recognized as reality or keev would have long ago looked like the Russian side of the of the nova kakhovka dam do you not agree?

>>64198124 (OP)
Think F-16's will be popping off those suckers

>>64202935
Zigger is absolutely SEETHING right now.
Anyone know what blew up this time? I heard some ziggers got cut off or something a few days ago, any news on that?

>>64202935
They might not have tried it on the first day, but they eventually did try it and demonstrated that they lack the capability.

>>64203545
Oh it's a good one >>64200093

>>64201285
>>64201482
>>64201615
>>64201642
>>64201710
>>64201791
>>64202935
Holy shit at first I thought it was ironic gloves are about to come off NOOK posting but you are actually a dumb fucking zigger. Russia has already tried everything. Do I need to post the commercials they were running in winter 2023 about how ukraine is about to not survive the winter without power, there’s not gonna be any Christmas, etc. and it’s all their fault. Nobody believes this shit expect jeets, pedophilic romanians, and puccia ziggers. Kys. 14:1.

>>64203545
They are rationing gasoline, recession in a wartime economy, a flamingo sent 8 commanders to banan heaven. The shilling is out of control because things are getting worse and worse.

>>64201642
Russia expended considerable assets trying to take Ukrainian power delivery offline, if Ukraine does that in the middle of winter, as a retaliation, Russia is going to be extra fucked.

>>64203616
The retard thinks puccia could suddenly pull off a desert storm lol. There is zero point in engaging with the delusional turd worlder.

>>64203616
Thirdies like to memoryhole the fact that the Russians have ALREADY TRIED AND FAILED to take out all of Ukraine's infrastructure. They also like to ignore the fact that one of the reasons that Russia's sabotage campaign failed was because the Ukrainian infrastructure is backed by the EU which is more technologically advanced than Russia, has a GDP roughly 8-9 times larger than Russia, and their own infrastructure is completely untouchable at any meaningful scale because the Russians, for all their chestbeating, are absolutely terrified of the EU (more specifically their air power) entering the war.

>>64203599
>the commercials they were running in winter 2023 about how ukraine is about to not survive the winter without power
You were close, those ads were about how the EU would freeze without glorious puccian hydrocarbons))) and yuros would have to eat their pet hamsters to survive.
But I also remember that when you want to make God laugh, you tell him his plans. And so that winter was extremely mild across Europe whilst Russia was gripped by record cold.

>>64202935
Have you already forgotten General Armageddon or whatever they were calling him? Russia has already tried missile spam at civilian centers. They're bad at it.

>>64201615
Lmao don't you remember what happened last time you vermin tried this line? Do I need to go dig up the videos of Russian apartments with a meter of ice in them, or news headlines of Russian citizens freezing to death in their homes?

>>64202935
>"russia could have done X in the first 48 hours!!!"
>didn’t
>froze in place like a drunk outside a vodka shop
>4 years later still meatgrinding villages
>tractors stealing tanks
>"b-but we COULD have!!"
lmao cope harder, your empire died in february 2022 and you’re still writing fanfic about what it *might* have done

>>64201687
>keev
>lmao
>lol

>>64201687
22% of russians do not have indoor plumbing.

>>64203787
It died in 1991, putin is just a maggot feasting on the corpse

>>64203660
I’m pretty sure that Field Marshall Ragnarok has been officially memory-holed and unofficially banished to Algeria.

>>64203861
>It died in 1991, putin is just a maggot feasting on the corpse
Probably, but pre-2014 Kiev was russian-speaking like Minsk and russia still had the chance to win just by waiting. EU would've dumped Ukraine as 'too russian' eventually. Instead russhits chimped out, invaded, and nuked their own long game. Bravo, 5d chess grandmasters.

>>64203887
Russian mentality is retarded, they can't even imagine having to earn influence over Ukraine, they just think entire countries belong to them. Now instead of great relations and geopolitical weight, they're dying in nigger amounts. Truly rhe niggers of Europe.

>>64203887
Ukraine being in the EU but still heavily politically compromised probably would have been a pretty damn good scenario for Russia if Putin hadn’t been so obsessed with physically trying to recreate the Russian Empire. With a population of around 45 million people, Ukraine could easily have been the keystone for a powerful pro-Russian bloc in the EU, allowing Russia to influence EU policy far more easily in its favor.

>>64200978
I wasn’t, why did you assume that, dummy?

>>64201285
>retaliation
>that would
>would
>come
>in response
Hahahahaha
Russia is already hitting ukraine with everything they’ve got and they’re far too pussified to attack a NATO nation directly.
It’s 2025 and you’re still pretending russia is wearing gloves

>>64201642
>zigger thinks he can fly bombing to missions to ukraine and russia wont instantly lose its airforce
You’re retarded gloveposter

>>64200894
You forgot to add the AMX10 first, spawning all the funny debates worldwide even on national TV whether it's a tank or not, on top of showing how dumb journos are.

>>64203946
Yes and no, part of the prerequisites to join NATO is to crack down on corruption somewhat, and even if they had de ne it in bad faith it would have lessened Putin's grip on Ukraine.

Because Ukraine still held elections (under strong Russian influence but still somewhat free) joining the EU or NATO could've been seen as the first of a series of moves to cut away Russian influence for good.

Look at Romania, who kicked out their president elect because of Russian interference. The Russians did everything they could and still lost this one.

>>64201331
>which I believe is a weird Bong kitbash piece of equipment?
Why? Ukraine has had a lot of startups designing, implementing, and actually testing dozens of types of drones. Flamingo is just another example of the decentralized innovation that minimaxed the biggest boom at the furthest distance. Hence the nigger-rigged appearance and the retarded mishaps like accidentally painting the missiles pink.

>>64203887
>but pre-2014 Kiev was russian-speaking
The language thing was not an issue until the russian regime made it an issue. It doesn't somehow change your behavior or viewpoint, but yeah it is a way to try and lock you into a specific information space and culture to get exploited later.

>>64204317
>part of the prerequisites to join NATO is to crack down on corruption somewhat
>what is orbangutan
>what is motherfico

>>64204804
>Why?
Because it's more comfy to think of ukies as dumb hillbilly peasants, for both russians (duh) and even foreigners (who mistook the region for yet another russia province just a few years ago).

>>64198124 (OP)
I’m glad Trump has stopped sending gibs to Ukraine

>>64201710
Stop comparing yourself to Israel. Unlike Russia, Israel routinely warns of impending strikes in order to evacuate civilians, and you can't show evidence of a systematic policy of targeting civilians in Gaza unlike you Russian animals do in Ukraine. Israel is not perfect, and should probably be even more restrained, but the fact is that Israel has not broken international norms of warfare, while Russia has done that from day one. You can't show an Israeli Bucha massacre. In Ukraine, that was only the first one they knew about. Fuck you, pidorashka.

>>64204987
>Israel has not broken international norms of warfare
They shot a convoy of ambulances, burried them with bulldozers and denied it happened. Anon, Israel commits constant warcrimes. Yeah, so does Russia. But dont go excusing the fucking Jews.

>>64205028
>shot a convoy of ambulances, burried them with bulldozers and denied it happened
Im here enough i doubt id miss a pali shill spamming that if it happened. Israel can do better, but ive seen way too many arab lies to not ask for proofs

>>64205028
>an incident happens
>Israel reviews it and disciplines the officers involved
Has Russia ever punished one of its officers for criminal behavior in Ukraine? The answer to that is "no."

>>64202387
Trump is a "businessman." He understands peace-time dealings. He isn't the best at it (especially since he has surrounded himself with yes-men), but it's what he has the most experience with.

He understands nothing about military affairs, and refuses to learn the subtleties and history of the Russia-Ukraine war. He legit doesn't understand why the war isn't over yet. This is a big reason why his attempts to stop the war have failed so hard. He thinks Putin is motivated by money and prestige, like he is. Donald doesn't understand that Putin is pathologically paranoid and psychopathic and won't accept anything less than the surrender of all Eastern Europe.

>>64205220
The president is a fucking retard with an inflated ego, anon. This man will still claim to know more than the generals when he doesn't have the faintest idea of military matters, just because he went to a private school with a military aesthetic. But you are correct. The biggest problem are his enablers and the people around him that constantly run cover for his retarded ideas instead of telling him no like they did last administration. I wonder who the first member of his cabinet to openly call him a retard will be.

>>64205028
You got a source for that Ahmed? Not a middle eastern source either

>>64205233
Didnt elon pretty much do that during their breakup?

>>64205245
Elon was never part of the government. In fact, that whole setup may have been illegal, but Elon didn't call him a retard. He did call him a pedophile, and continues to do so.

>>64204885
Not sure about Fico but Orban was elected after they joined the EU. They had to behave for a few years, and in a country like Ukraine the Ziggers would've slipped out forever if they released their grip, as we saw with EuroMaidan.

>>64201482
Yes, we should definitly restrain ourselves and hope monke won't chimp out. Again. Like last winter. And the two winters before.

>>64202935
>2022: xaxaxa Ukraine will freeze
>2023: xaxaxa Ukraine will freeze 2.0 electric bogaloo
>2024: xaxaxa Ukraine will freeze, no gloves edition
>2025: Ahhhh, long range missiles are war crime, how could orange man do this?
>Russia would never harm poor civilians unlike those dirty jews ((((((((

>>64203787
but he's right, russia could have ruled the world if we had as much people as china, the same technologies as usa and our generals were competent like ww2 soviet heros roko and zhukov

>>64203593
>Lighters will only be sold with a passport. Violators face fines up to 2 million rubles.
Uh oh, hope you got some emergency gear stored away my fellow smookers.

>>64202935
>but we COULD have done it
Nah lmao or you wouldve

>>64205540
>could have ruled the world if you just change everything
yeah

>>64199063
its not pozzias fault americans are huge into humiliation fetish

>>64201314
they still have enough to send boots to guard the borders with belarus and trannysistria. freeing up ukranians for the front

its just political cowardice and wishful thinking. although to EUs credit they have really picked up the pace ever since agent orange removed US from the equation and thus lost its leverage over ukraine

>>64205739
>one guy paints his face brown (to look younger i assume)
>other guy is wearing like 20cm boots (to look taller)
2/3 world leaders btw, how did it end like this

>>64203946
monke lost its influence in ukraine when its boy toy yanukovich got ousted. A well known mobster from Donbawe. zelensky ran on
>lets be friends and partners
platform, not submission like the deranged gopnik gangster wanted

now with this war he has succeeded in permanently divorcing ukranians from russian where russian itself is rapidly being dropped from usage its spoken language. While pozzia is a full blown gangster state on the verge of degenerating into totalitarian neo-stalinism under the putinism banner

>>64205773
>2/3 world leader
where? Like donnie still qualifies as the US president but vatnikstan aint even a regional power, much less world anything

>>64205809
2/3rd of world leaders wear concealed high heels to look taller.

>>64201331
I doubt it's actually british, outside financing. Fire Point is an actual ukie company with actual products before this missile.
But IMO it wasn't designed for refineries. Based on the range, if it's true, there's a way more juicy target available for it. So juicy that one could consider the damage to be nuclear in nature for the RU economy. Ukies probably specifically wanted that possibility for a Samson option type attack. I'm talking about the so-called Yamal Cross.

On the map of the main gas pipelines coming from Yamal, there is a place known as the "Yamal Cross", where 17 large gas pipelines intersect at once. It is located on the bank of the Pravaya Khetta River, not far from the village of Pangoda, and from the satellite it looks like two crosses drawn right on the tundra. It is here that with one strike of two or three accurately hit missiles it is possible to cut off 85% of the Russia's natural gas production and cut off the entire European part of Russia, where the bulk of the population and the bulk of the military industry are located, from gas and, as a result, from electricity, from heat, from raw materials for the production of explosives.

>>64205917
I know the diagram shows them all clustered together, but how far apart are these pipelines really. Is there satellite imagery of them?

>>64205990
around 1km across in terms of width

>>64205990
here

>>64206123
It would be very funny if after years of Russian attacks on the Ukrainian energy infrastructure, the Ukies cripple the Russian one in unironically two weeks.

>>64206147
For years russians have enjoyed not needing to protect their rear that much from retaliatory attacks, but with that shit exposed it can uncover just how much of colossus with feet of clay they actually are.

>>64205917
If Ruskies have brainpower left, they will immediately swarm the place with anti-missile systems.
Honestly it's shame Ukrainians revealed the weapon before they got enough of them to turn that spot into lake of burning oil. That would be glorious.

>>64205861
>the world is ruled by psychopathic manlets
That explains a lot

>>64206190
>If Ruskies have brainpower left, they will immediately swarm the place with anti-missile systems.
And to do this they'll have to remove the AA from somewhere else. Not from putin's residence, which has a network of flaktowers and such.

>>64206134
Do they Ukrainians have anything that can delete a grid square?

>>64206219
>scare them into spamming AA in one spot, letting you bomb other places
Not as spectacular, but still would get job done and there would be less kvetching about cutting off all the oil that goes to Europe via middlemen, that means it's a note realistic scenario.

>>64206219
>Make a point of discussing obliterating the cross on a platform that we know ziggers use
>Also make sure to leak some totally legitimate plans that that's what the Flamingos are going to be used on next
>Let them move half their AA assets over there
>Don't attack cross, instead just ass fuck more refineries and gas trains
>Russia moves AA back to the front
>Blow up the cross while the AA is still in transit
hehe

>>64206241
A 1,000 KG warhead in the flamingo should help. AFAIK those pipelines are pressurized at ~ 60 bar, so if blown up it will be a big boom

>>64206254
fucking hohols and their anglo-saxon masters

>>64206263
They're under enough pressure all you need is a tiny boom.
>One line ruptures and starts burning
>Heats up adjacent line enough it fails, it is under pressure after all
>Now the fire is being fed by 2 lines
>Repeat

>>64205085
I'm sure they have if it means the one doing the punishment has something to gain from it, ie; a "fine" to be paid directly to him and not the government. (After all, on the official report there was no wrongdoing as that could make him look bad)

>>64206267
>fucking hohols and their anglo-saxon masters

>>64207597
>>64206267
There's a reason why the country is called UKraine, so...

>>64199063
A warm up exercise for their simping for sandy russia (israel)

>>64201671
>mentioning poland apropos of nothing
>using the term "butthurt belt"
>seething at the U.K. as if they're behind every geopolitical setback for Russia
you puccian scum stick out like a sore thumb, you're like cartoon characters

>>64207863
It goes back further than you realize...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_(medieval)

>>64205233
fuck off faggot. if you are NATO pay your 5% like the cheap ass bitch you are. if you are a well poisoning faggot then fuck you all around.

>>64200894
>>64201270
>>64201310
it's pretty funny watching the mix of autistic fixations, convenient excuses, domestic politics, and genuine issues at play whenever germany does anything in this regard