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Anonymous No.64203429 >>64203824 >>64204677 >>64211413 >>64211723 >>64211937
Handgun General - /hg/ - #1650
Found oddly pristine spaghat blaster left out in the trash edition

Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdf
Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik

Monthly pistol qual, regulation B8, make sure when you print it it's sized correctly.
Printable target: https://files.catbox.moe/5ctlkk.jpg
Course of Fire: https://files.catbox.moe/u06i4z.jpg

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Anonymous No.64203438 >>64203460
nice
Anonymous No.64203445 >>64203474 >>64203697 >>64217728
.32 posting

>>64203432
>Start range fires by shooting them in your machinepistole
I have like seven VZ61 kits to reweld then it's klobberin time
Anonymous No.64203460
>>64203438
Scientists believe this is how it got thrown into a dumpster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u2ztaAeSzA
Anonymous No.64203462 >>64203634 >>64203802 >>64214872 >>64214886
Can someone please just provide me a website that has a large selection of reasonably priced handguns for sale, including the full size APX?
Anonymous No.64203473
If I could unwind
The wheel of time
I could have been
BY YOUR SIDE

IF I COULD TURN BACK TIME
Anonymous No.64203474 >>64203563
>>64203445
How did you get your reds? I only got green
Anonymous No.64203481
Sig talking to their engineers right now like 'Gaston was able to build this in a cave, with a box of scraps'
Anonymous No.64203563 >>64203613
>>64203474
Ordered the 4,050 round crate, was about 50/50 red/green
Anonymous No.64203613 >>64203621
>>64203563
They have a copper washed mild steel jacket.
Do you feel safe shooting a ton out of your pristine gun?
Modern seller and bellot is 40cpr and Iโ€™m okay with paying that if it turns out this stuff worsens barrel wear
Anonymous No.64203620 >>64203651
>SIG doing a 250th anniversary for the m17/m18 rebate after the actual anniversary
Holy shit I think they are actually desperate. Wonder if news of P320's being sold for $100 spooked them
Anonymous No.64203621 >>64203654
>>64203613
>Do you feel safe shooting a ton out of your pristine gun?
I have a thousand rounds of Federal American Eagle 32 for the Colt. The commie stuff is for my VZ61 rewelds and the P32/NAA/FEG
Anonymous No.64203634
>>64203462
>largeselectionofreasonablypricedhandgunsforsale.gov
Anonymous No.64203635 >>64203644 >>64210279 >>64210820
10mm or 40s&w
Anonymous No.64203644
>>64203635
45 super
Anonymous No.64203651 >>64203691
>>64203620
cAN They just start making retro shit, no one cares about modern dogpoop
Anonymous No.64203654 >>64203666 >>64203668
>>64203621
> Federal American Eagle
Very weak cartridge
It doesnโ€™t even cycle my 1903 unless u replace the wolf spring with a dying spring.
Why not run fiocchi or modern S&B.
Anonymous No.64203664 >>64203690 >>64204078 >>64205326
want one of these, and i am i really losing that much without the extra 0.6" of barrel? I get more OWB and IWB holster options with 4" but isn't the performance negligible? Price also not much of an issue, they are super close in price
Anonymous No.64203666 >>64203684
>>64203654
Also itโ€™s more expensive than the euro 7.65
Anonymous No.64203668 >>64204586
>>64203654
>Why not run fiocchi or modern S&B.
Counter question, why bother? I got the Federal for a good price and it runs great in a gun I won't shoot a ton.
Anonymous No.64203684
>>64203666
I paid $0.30 a round satan
Anonymous No.64203689 >>64203692 >>64203792
Iโ€™m about to get my first handgun.
I live in a shitty noguns country so none of the ammo is actually made here, and all 9mm has a price floor that makes a lot of 9mm incredibly close to each other in cost. To make it worth it Iโ€™ll buy 3000 rounds on my first purchase.
Should I avoid specific brands for any reason you could thing of?
I am considering Hornady TAP training FMJ or Federal American Eagle, but I see the other brands offerings and realise I have no experience to compare these things so Iโ€™d appreciate any advice or suggestions.
I can get your typical brands like Blazer, Federal, Winchester, Remington, Hornady, MagTech, PMC and some weird ones I donโ€™t see online often like GECO and Aguila.
Anonymous No.64203690 >>64203717
>>64203664
Why would you ever want something that looks like THAT
Anonymous No.64203691
>>64203651
Companies won't start going retro until HK makes the USPA1 or something like that. Right now we are still within 2011 mania, and nothing new will probably happen until SIG's contract is up in 2027.
Anonymous No.64203692 >>64203699
>>64203689
>GECO
If it's 124gr buy that. Extremely good stuff.
Anonymous No.64203697 >>64203710
>>64203445
I have two to do still.
Did one a few years ago with no jig, came out so-so.
Actually looks really good when you consider I had to fill in a ton of missing material in the magwell and scratch fabricate my own grip stick threads in a piece of billet, then mill out the old torch cut threads and weld mine in, but the kit I had to start with was rough and there was only so much I could do.

Two left to put together came from numrich instead and the receiver pieces are fantastic.
Are you doing yours with a jig?
If so where'd you get it?
Anonymous No.64203699
>>64203692
124gr copper plated LRN, those are also slightly cheaper than the other options I was looking at.
Thank you for the reply, Iโ€™ll look into those.
Anonymous No.64203710 >>64203775 >>64208320
>>64203697
I have four very nice numrich kits and three Appalachian arms absolutely dogshit kits with horrible oxy torch cuts and deformed upper receiver bodies.
Going to have a go at the AA ones with my TIG for practice.
I have a jig, yes, cheap ebay aluminum one. Hopefully it helps.
Anonymous No.64203717 >>64203720 >>64205014
>>64203690
it's a gun, not a mini skirt.
It's a tool you sperg
Anonymous No.64203720
>>64203717
>art doesnt matter.
Actual soulless golem.
Anonymous No.64203775 >>64203779
>>64203710
>Hopefully it helps.
Rooting for you anon. Anything is better than nothing, I spent hours tacking mine together trying to get the geometry lengthwise correct, and it still ended up being 1mm off. Had to notch the one pin on the left side slightly to allow the top cover to slide back.
You can't tell of course, and it functions 100%, but I am a freak perfectionist and it eats at me bad enough I'll probably cut it apart and correct it some day.
Definitely going to pick up a jig this time just to save myself the hassle of figuring my own out.
Anonymous No.64203779 >>64203878
>>64203775
Any general advice before I attack mine? I've done a CETME C and two AKs from 80% flats and non-demilled parts kits. And P80s/80%1911s
Anonymous No.64203792
>>64203689
Generally avoid winchester and remmington bulk ammo, I like magtech because it's pretty fucking good and pretty cheap, but if price is nesrly the same blazer and federal have much tighter QC and it shows by how many duds and light strikes you get. Magtechs maybe every 2-3k at least in my guns, blazer is like 1 in 5k. I don't have much expirence shooting 9mm in the other brands you mentioned.
Anonymous No.64203802 >>64203805 >>64203808 >>64203829 >>64204970
>>64203462
Gun.deals or just generally locked and loaded.

Bfg fucked me out of my GX4 order boys. It never arrived and eventually my FFL called and told me to just cancel that shit because they had never had a gun take that long to arrive from a dealer. BFG outfitters charged me 25% to cancel the order and said their shipping time of at that point 8 days without even creating a shipping label was "industry standard".

Oh well, got to take my Argentinian and Polish friend shooting with some other buddies and they had an awesome time and loved the BG 2.0 and 509c, but were enamored by the coach shotgun and KSG my friend brought because "it's just like my videogames"
Anonymous No.64203805 >>64203809
>>64203802
Very cool paintjob. Pro or DIY? How much?
Anonymous No.64203808
>>64203802
>BFG outfitters charged me 25%
Charge back the fuckers, that's clearly a scam.
Anonymous No.64203809 >>64209283
>>64203805
Thanks! It was something like $240 for the gun, light, and three mags from big iron cerakoting in PA
Anonymous No.64203824 >>64203858 >>64204457
>>64203429 (OP)
I have a few questions for those who know a lot about the 1911.
>One, if the locking surfaces on the barrel or frame were too loose, what issues (symptoms) would this cause?
>Two, if the face on the rear of the extension that the barrel link lug were too "short" (front to back) or the slot in the frame was too "long" (causing a bigger gap), what issues/symptoms would that cause? Can it be "too tight"? Heck, is "too loose" even possible?
>Three, is it normal to see a mark (shiny/removed bluing) from the slide stop's shaft going across the front face of that barrel link lug? What would cause this?
>Would any of these stress the barrel link or the slide stop pin more than would be reasonable?
Keeping questions a little vague, I know, but I think I figured something out and I'm trying to stop anons from overthinking my questions, much like you tell a smith or mechanic the symptoms and don't put your thought of what is wrong in their head (and screw with their conclusions).
Anonymous No.64203829 >>64203855 >>64210379
>>64203802
I shot my buddies sig 320 10mm and unfortunately loved it. My buddy who owns the sig said the hi point was the softest shooting piece of shit he's ever shot. The JXP 10 is like a velvet turd, soft but stinky.
Anonymous No.64203855 >>64204529 >>64204634 >>64205193
>>64203829
There was 5 of us occupying 3 stalls and I was trying to micromanage the new shooters and keep them having fun and staying safe while also helping some boomers wife with her raven arms 25acp malfunctions (she was attempting to shoot 22lr through it) and feeding my buddy who brought the sigs the guns he wanted to shoot and loading mags for everyone. It was hectic. Someone reported a light strike with the bodyguard this time with magtech, another guy reported my LMT had a failure to feed. I didn't witness either and am gonna chock it up to new shooters but may have to take a closer look at the BG 2.0 if I keep having these light strike issues in a more stable environment.
Anonymous No.64203858 >>64203908
>>64203824
Failure to fully go into battery which may appear to be light strikes at first glance. And failures to feed.
Look up barrel bump as well

>Keeping questions a little vague, I know, but I think I figured something out and I'm trying to stop anons from overthinking my questions, much like you tell a smith or mechanic the symptoms and don't put your thought of what is wrong in their head (and screw with their conclusions).

Something about your phrasing or grammar in this screams "nutter that thinks they're smarter than they are."
It was extremely off-putting and I expect replying to you is a massive waste of my time. I genuinely don't know what it is though.
Anonymous No.64203878
>>64203779
The receiver is very tight inside and thin, if you've put together a few flats you're probably fine from a welding standpoint, just take your time and don't rush.
Do yourself a favor and get a set of carbide burr bits for a Dremel, they help immensely (something like this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09MSSXFWQ) when you need to get slag out a crazy tiny slot or hole, and they really help when you need to grind down weld overpenetration inside the receiver.

If your grip stick threads are torched or damaged, don't even bother trying to repair or reuse them, just cut all the threads out, drill a 10mm hole in a piece of thick steel, then use a 10mm brass rod to line that up with the rate reducer rod channel vertically and weld it in, then drill and tap new threads. I think the grip stick is 15x1mm thread pitch? (Not sure)
It's pretty straightforward, if you've already got a jig you're way ahead of the game.
Anonymous No.64203908 >>64203931
>>64203858
>Failure to fully go into battery which may appear to be light strikes at first glance. And failures to feed.
Nope, I don't remember either (until my barrel link broke and I replaced it).
>Look up barrel bump as well
Will do.
>Something about your phrasing or grammar [...] was extremely off-putting
Damn, I was trying to avoid that. To clarify, I'm trying to see whether the problems with my Star are caused by a few things I noticed while inspecting it again trying to troubleshoot. Long ago, the barrel link snapped (no surprise) and when I fit and installed an EGW link, this time the slide stop pin bent. While I saw a video where a guy claimed to have soldered in a piece of hacksaw blade to the rear of his frame (behind the barrel link lug) to "fix" the Star BM barrel link breaking issue, his explanation left a LOT to be desired, especially considering as far as I remember, he really didn't explain why, how, or show any measurements. Just "I put a piece of hacksaw blade in there to shim it". After talking about my BM recently, it jogged some of my memories about the issues I had and I looked up a 1911 animation. If it's accurate (and the Star is similar enough), it does look like with a gap too large behind that lug (either lug or frame, choose a source of bad QC) might cause issues but I haven't found a 1911 gunsmithing resource that isn't an $80 book on Amazon yet. Not sure if I'm the only one with this problem or what as everyone else seems to have decent luck just fitting a new link. My personal hunch is that the recoil spring might be worn out causing the link to yank on that pin too hard and beat the gun to death. Haven't shot it in years because I don't want to fuck it up further.
Anonymous No.64203931 >>64203962
>>64203908
>Damn, I was trying to avoid that.
Just how it is on this bitch of an earth, sorry if that was rude of me.
1911forum is a great place to look for info on fitting upper and lower barrel lugs, which should lead to some of the info you're looking for in a three degrees of separation way. Especially lower lugs.
Is the barrel link allowing the barrel to go fully "up" into battery?
Check by markings the breach face with a sharpie with the slide off and the barrel pushed in by hand to as high as it will go.
Then assemble the gun and drop the slide and check if it's lower.
Anonymous No.64203962 >>64203990
>>64203931
Blue fine tip sharpie was bleeding too much (and then smearing). Instead used a freshly sharpened pencil. You might just be on to something. Gun is closed on empty chamber with no mag inserted. Apologies if I go silent randomly in advance; it's 4AM here and I really need to get up in about 4 hours and I've gotten zero sleep.
Anonymous No.64203990 >>64204039
>>64203962
Can the link move freely with the cross pin in it? (Outside the gun/slide)
Or does the pin hit the lower lugs before moving back to the "locked" alignment?
Anonymous No.64204039
>>64203990
Took me a while to comprehend that but I think I understand what you're saying. The link moves freely with just the barrel and link in hand. However, when the gun is fully assembled, it does seem that the barrel is prevented from moving fully up to that mark even if I use a tool to pull up using the extractor cutout or push the slide forward by hand. Do remember the slide stop cross pin has a slight bow and gouge in it from the last time I shot it, though. With barrel and pin in hand, I can shine a flashlight behind it and see a little light around the pin in the link but not much.

Probably going to go to sleep soon and answer later in the day. Thanks for the help, anon.
Anonymous No.64204078
>>64203664
>10mm
Based.
Anonymous No.64204457 >>64205563
>>64203824
Read pages 6-8
https://www.tactical1911.net/wp-content/uploads/KART-PRECISION-1911-XACT-FIT-BARREL-KIT-FITTING-INSTRUCTIONS.pdf
Anonymous No.64204529 >>64204755
>>64203855
>picrel
That is sooooooo real holy crap. Never had someone who owned guns have such bad luck but I've shot with a few people who just seem to be magically be able to generate malfunctions in everything I hand them, even though they are my guns and have been perfectly reliable whenever I've shot them. Took a girl out shooting and she somehow found a way to make a Geissele trigger fail to reset not once but twice and I had legitimately no idea how she was managing this. Ive never been able to repeat this problem myself. Women are just bad luck when interacting with mechanical devices...or boats...or planes to probably. Old sailors had it right
Anonymous No.64204586
>>64203668
Fiocchi and seller bellot penetrate deeply and tumble in gell being probably second only to buffalo bore in defensive potential https://web.archive.org/web/20190211212410/http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2012/11/clear-gel-terminal-testing-sellier.html
A cache could be used for defense whereas a lot of American 32 is barely any better than 25 buffalo bore and youโ€™re also rewarding the companies for devolving the cartridge into a joke since 32 was historically loaded to euro specs
https://www.marlinowners.com/threads/proposed-solution-for-rimlock-in-32-acp-pistols.166001/
Anonymous No.64204634 >>64204755
>>64203855
>picrel
I have a buddy just like that, and he's definitely a "gun guy." Consumes gun content all the time, buys a new gun like every month, etc.

One time he bought a USP and blamed the sights for shooting low left at 5 yards
Anonymous No.64204677 >>64213705
>>64203429 (OP)
armi galesi 25 acp? i have a sterling, they're low quality clones but they turned plum so they look sexy. gun shoots fine but the rifling is trash so it keyholes like a motherfucker. its also not safe like a baby browning. ive spent $100 on worse

also you can get 8 round mags for the sterling, im pretty sure the mags are interchangeable.
Anonymous No.64204754
I should buy a Model 10
Anonymous No.64204755
>>64204529
>>64204634
I have a range buddy whom I believe never handles his guns outside of the range, one time the only gun he brought had a physically loose and wobbly cylinder release that could have been solved easily and another time the red dot on his pistol had a dead battery.
Anonymous No.64204814 >>64204849
I am buying another fixture for my range. I have a Texas star, plate racks, several full size ipscs, half size ipscs, some longer range gongs, and a ghetto dot torture drill made of a forest of 2 posts and 4 and 6 inch rounds.

I am trying to decide between a polish plate rack and a dueling tree or an Irish star / propeller star target. The Irish star seems more fun but the polish plate rack is cheaper and i can get another target with it. Looking to spend just a bit over $1k.
Anonymous No.64204849 >>64204869 >>64204886
>>64204814
I like to shoot at garbage on public land. If there's no interesting garbage I like to shoot at rocks.
Anonymous No.64204869 >>64204909
>>64204849

That is fair but rocks are expensive and hard to find so I have to shoot steel targets instead. I am envious of your petrological ventures. What would you rather have of the options i listed?
Anonymous No.64204886 >>64204918
>>64204849
Do you live in a sandy climate? Shooting rocks when they may be granite seems like a bad idea.
Anonymous No.64204909
>>64204869
the propeller one looks like more fun
Anonymous No.64204918 >>64204948
>>64204886
they're mostly basalt, but why would shooting granite be a bad idea?
Anonymous No.64204948 >>64204967
>>64204918
The physical properties of granite keans its a very tough rock that often breaks into angular shapes or gets rounded over time in rivers. The result can be unpredictable and can result in ricochets.
Anonymous No.64204967 >>64205116
>>64204948
oh, yeah I stand back pretty far when I shoot rocks. The only ricochet I ever had that I learned something from was when I shot an old CRT tv with birdshot. That was a safety glasses type event.
Anonymous No.64204970 >>64204989
>>64203802
Oh nooooooo, 8 whole days????!!!!???
You poor baby!
Anonymous No.64204989
>>64204970
I had ordered the Bodyguard 2.0 from Locked and Loaded the same day I ordered the GX4 from BFG and had already had several range trips and 800 rounds through the bodyguard before I canceled the gx4. Locked and loaded, gun zone deals, and kygunco all have had my orders to my FFL ready for pickup 2-4 days after I ordered.

I won't be back in Florida until around Christmas so my opprotunity to buy a GX4 was ruined by a shitty scam company that undoubtedly makes most of their money on canceled orders.
Anonymous No.64205014
>>64203717
>it's a tool
No, tools are for work. It's a toy.
Anonymous No.64205116 >>64205137 >>64206070
>>64204967
>The only ricochet I ever had that I learned something from was when I shot an old CRT tv with birdshot.
The one ricochet that I learned something from was shooting with my buddy on his dad's property.
His dad had an old steel hot water heater set up as a ~500 yard rifle target, but buddy and myself were at ~30 yards shooting handguns that day at paper targets stapled to old railroad ties.
His dad rolls up on a quad bringing us a few cokes and bottles of water, just to hang and see how we're doing.
He asks if he can try his son's new 38 revolver.
Takes aim at the paper, he's fucking bullseye right away with the 3" barrel at 30 yards, ace shot. Pisses my friend off immediately, lol.
Just for shits and gigs, he pops the water heater to make a big gong noise.

Fucking ricochet comes straight back at him.
No joke, you can see some hairs falling down to the ground as a little line of blood appears dead center down the very tippy top of his head.
Just a scratch, but might as well have parted his fucking hair.
We all stare at each other fucking speechless as he reaches up and touches his scalp to make sure it's not got any extra holes in it.
He says "Well boys, think that's me done for the day, I'm going to go buy some lottery tickets."
We keep shooting, but also keep talking about how insane that was.
Ended up being the best lesson I've ever had on "know your target", constantly think about that one now whenever I'm shooting.
Old guy did actually go out and buy $100 worth of lottery tickets afterwards.
I think he ended up winning $2 total.
Anonymous No.64205137
>>64205116
that's a good story, I've seen a couple videos of people shooting at steel wheels, those tend to throw the bullets right back at you. I'll add water heaters to the list of things not to shoot at.
Anonymous No.64205193 >>64205443
>>64203855
Oh hey man, were you the guy I was talking to about your BG2.0 getting light strikes the other day?
Had a chance to run a box of 50 of both the "green streak" 380 and federal HST 380 thru mine. Still 0 light strikes. Green streaks ran flawlessly though are weak as piss, even by plinking standards. HST's were pretty hot, ran generally well except for two issues; 1. Had a round nosedive in one mag. Same as like what happened a couple times with Winchussy whitebox. Maybe a mag issue? The factory mags are super hard to seat when not downloading by 1 round and 2. Slide would not lock back on empty with HST's. Could be that the recoil is overcoming the slide lock.
So far still no issues apart from the occasional nose diving round in the 10rd mag. I think I'm gonna get another one to try. HST's seem like the right stuff otherwise.
Data for ammo below btw
>green streak 100gr 380 ACP - BG2.0
728.4 fps avg
SD 33.8
ES 128.6
KE 117.8 FT/LBS
>federal premium HST 99gr 380 ACP - BG2.0
874.2 fps avg
SD 8.1
ES 23
KE 168 FT/LBS
Anonymous No.64205326
>>64203664
Can't tell you what the holster selection looks like for you in specific but I was able to fit a 3.6" CSXE in a regular 3.1" CSX holster for my friend by heating the muzzle area of the kydex up and pushing the gun into it.
Anonymous No.64205338 >>64205348 >>64205462 >>64205559
What are some paper targets that would likely get me kicked by the range officer?
Anonymous No.64205348
>>64205338
Candid photos of your local PD officers with a target overlay. Bonus points for making plate hits not count for points.
Anonymous No.64205357 >>64205427 >>64205587
Who's top dog closed emitter now? RCR?
Anonymous No.64205427 >>64205481
>>64205357
lol
no
Anonymous No.64205443
>>64205193
Ah beans, that is me. Guess I gotta send an email to S&W whenever I settle down. Just signed another Detroit contract like an hour ago that starts in a couple weeks so I'll fuck with all of that then. Thanks for the heads up man I really appreciate it. The range I was shooting at in Florida has Magulas in every stall and It was absolutely essential for the 12 rounder. My 10 rounder I was barely able to load 10 rounds, but the 12 rounder I could just barely get 11 without the magula.
Anonymous No.64205462
>>64205338
Someone post the pptroon target
Anonymous No.64205481
>>64205427
>doesn't answer the question
Thanks for the help.
Anonymous No.64205559 >>64216611
>>64205338
Gotta magdump into it with the biggest caliber handgun you have while yelling โ€œNOT TODAY YOGI!โ€
Anonymous No.64205563 >>64205587
>>64204457
I'll be honest, about 10-15% of that is a little over my head (especially page 8) but that's a lot more info than I've been able to find otherwise; thank you anon. I'll probably have to re-read this a couple times to fully understand it. On detail 3 between A and B is where I see that silver mark mentioned earlier, btw. However, I think my BM may need to be taken to someone who specializes in 1911s, or at least knows as much as a "real" gunsmith should, which is hard to find these days; hell, I'm currently having some bad gunsmith luck on another gun. The slide stop pin in mine is damaged like I said (need to replace or repair), and now that I'm remembering, due to the bend and gouging, it wanted to fall out of the gun (to the left) last I shot it. And the little detent pin wanted to unscrew. And I think it refused to engage on empty a certain percent of the time because of it being poorly maintained (or bad QC). IDK how I never complained to the place I bought that thing, holy fuck. $250 Star is going to cost me like $600 total easily lol. Shame because I like it in theory.
Anonymous No.64205587 >>64205678
>>64205563
It went over my head but as you fit the barrel in the next steps with the contact marker material you can see where the barrel makes contact it makes sense

>>64205357
RCR is the most durable but it sucks otherwise. Window size is fine, itโ€™s just super fucking tall. I like ACROs, theyโ€™re very nice to look through. Aimpointโ€™s COA on Glocks seems to be the future but you canโ€™t get them anymore.

Iโ€™m excited for the Primary Arms HTX but didnโ€™t buy the first run, the next run which is full production is going to be like February
Anonymous No.64205678 >>64205702
>>64205587
What footprint is the HTX? Or do you have to use their supplied plates?
Anonymous No.64205702 >>64205772
>>64205678
HTX comes with RMR to HTX footprint plates, itโ€™s designed to be super low even on the adapter plate.
Anonymous No.64205772
>>64205702
Thanks. I have a non MOS G17 that I am going to mill but I'm researching optic choices.
Anonymous No.64205933 >>64206041
Burt, I summon you

Do you have any interest in an imported Israeli Sig P228 in good condition for under $600
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64206041 >>64206116
>>64205933
No thank you, Benjamin
Anonymous No.64206070
>>64205116
I don't like how I noticed this guy traces his guns, the angle of the crotch pistol gives it away as a trace.
Anonymous No.64206116 >>64206151 >>64206210
>>64206041
Since you're here burt, any ideas what could be causing the light strikes I have been having with my BG 2.0 I spoke about a week or so ago? If I could self diagnose it would be better than bothering with S&W customer service at my Airbnb in Detroit. I cannot link you the previous post if you missed it because the thread links broke 8/23 which is like the thread after my post.

Back in Washington to show my Argentinian and Polish friend Olympic national park, chinatown was just as chill as I remember.
Anonymous No.64206151 >>64206185
>>64206116
Tl;dr on the problems I've been having, I had 18-19 light strikes with the 450 rounds of AAC ammo I had, one light strike out of 100 with the federal HST, and potentially one light strike out of 200 rounds of magtech if my friend didn't somehow fuck it up or induce a failure.
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64206185 >>64206244
>>64206151
If the tip of the firing pin isn't visibly damaged then it's probably something you can't fix like the striker channel being 0.5mm too shallow or something. Doubt it's a weak spring or a burr but the latter at least you can inspect for

That's also the kind of thing a company will shoot 10 rounds and say "no problem detected" and ship the gun back, so I hope that doesn't happen :( I hope you kept those dented primers to send with the gun
Anonymous No.64206210 >>64206244
>>64206116
That the same Chinatown some black guy stabbed 12 white people in 48 hours
Anonymous No.64206244
>>64206210
Man folks have it so so so good and safe in Seattle that a guy stabbing a couple people 8 months ago is why they think it's dangerous.

There is nowhere in Seatac that scares me. I guess it's all a matter of perspective. The best places in Detroit are probably as safe as the worst places in Seattle. Pic rel, my favorite chicken spot Manhattan Chicken and fish with their bullet proof glass lazy susan.

>>64206185
Thanks Burt, I'll check it when I fly back to Atlanta, and good tip on saving the light strike cases!
Anonymous No.64206368
Has anyone here taken any armorer courses? Is it worth it?

What is the best or worst handgun related class you've ever taken?
Anonymous No.64206473 >>64206718 >>64206787 >>64206833 >>64206936 >>64212511 >>64212513
>spends $1,000+ on a premium firearm
>doesn't carry it

Always half-cocked because I'm not a bitch.
Anonymous No.64206638 >>64206735 >>64206767
How tight should the retention on a kydex holster be? Right now I'm running a LTT Elite with a Surefire 300 in a JMCK holster. I've tightened it but when I hold it upside down and shake, the gun falls out a little. Now granted, this gun and light combo is a little over 2 pounds fully loaded so am I just being unrealistic in my expectations here? I don't forsee myself or the gun holster being upside down very often so should I loosen it for a an easier draw and just accept that if I shake it upside down, it will come loose?
Anonymous No.64206718 >>64206939
>>64206473
Sure thing tubbs
Anonymous No.64206735 >>64206817
>>64206638
>falls out a little
That would be fine if you were talking leather, heavy gun and what not, but kydex? Doesn't it click on in and out? If gun moves out a little bit, does it not fall out completely? If something is holding it still, it's good retention.
Anonymous No.64206767 >>64206800 >>64206817
>>64206638
Is this OWB or IWB?

When people say retention holster they usually mean holsters with locking mechanisms like a safariland style hood holster or some with a lever that must be depressed for the gun to be removed. Not purely friction
Anonymous No.64206787 >>64206939
>>64206473
first off, you're fucking fat. Second, who the fuck carries a shadow LMAO
Anonymous No.64206800
>>64206767
Not him but I love my Safariland OWB Kydex holster with the thumb lever to release it. Do they make IWB holsters with them?
Anonymous No.64206812 >>64209639
Chiappa 1911-22 any good anons?
I've been looking for a range toy.
Anonymous No.64206817 >>64206914
>>64206735
It moves out a little bit when I shake it hard upside down.
>>64206767
IWB. Yeah I guess I used the wrong term, it's held purely by friction.
Anonymous No.64206833 >>64206939
>>64206473
Mother bearing hips
Anonymous No.64206909 >>64206924
Were they right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_k8GKWRyrM&ab_channel=Let%E2%80%99sTalkTactical
Anonymous No.64206914
>>64206817
You canโ€™t really get good โ€œโ€retentionโ€โ€ with a light bearing holster without a spring loaded mechanism or hood. It just needs to not fall out from jumping and running. Your belt pressing your gun/holster into your body also acts as retention. Your clothes over your gun also act as retention.
Anonymous No.64206924 >>64206952
>>64206909
>hand tattoos
>complete lack of a chin
>3.11s bill drill
Yeah, not listening to anything they say
Anonymous No.64206933 >>64206987
New to Glocks. I'm trying to find magazines for a gen 3 but all I can find are 5s. Are they compatible?
Anonymous No.64206936
>>64206473
Yo big dog. Don't listen to those fags. Cool pistol btw, I always wanted to shoot one of them. You comfortable with such a heavy fuckin gun?
Anonymous No.64206939 >>64207029 >>64207895
>>64206718
>>64206787
>>64206833
I'm so fat and yet I fit this right next to my anaconda. I mean my cock of course. You should have an easier time squeezing this over your pussy.
Anonymous No.64206948 >>64207040
>I'm so big and fat but I can easily fit this obnoxious holster and enormous competition gun next to my t-toally huge penis
Anonymous No.64206952 >>64206999 >>64210898
>>64206924
Wrong video it's about comps being too loud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQuNqcLFWTU&ab_channel=Let%E2%80%99sTalkTactical
Anonymous No.64206987
>>64206933
Yes
Anonymous No.64206999 >>64207010
>>64206952
You didnโ€™t need to take off your hearing protection to know comps are loud, especially with higher pressure ammunition

These guys are retarded
Anonymous No.64207010 >>64210898
>>64206999
They do make a good point though, with all these companies like S&W, springfield and some others starting to sell compensated or ported carry guns straight from the factory. It's a fad that can cause more hearing damage if fired from enclosed spaces than a normal handgun.
Anonymous No.64207029 >>64207040
>>64206939
Being fat has so many incredible disadvantages in life, but carrying a huge gun covertly might be the one big trade-off.
Anonymous No.64207040 >>64207184
>>64206948
>>64207029
What kind of damaged brain must you have to think having more fat spilling over your belt makes carry easier? You must not carry at all.
Anonymous No.64207080 >>64207091 >>64207122 >>64207166 >>64207282 >>64207577 >>64208155
Idk why, but i feel like gold grip screws would give my 92 some class....what's /hg/ think?

>no im not a nigger looking to make my gun look "gangsta" or some shit
Anonymous No.64207086 >>64209081
I may be 350lbs but at least I can store my desert eagle in my gut for edc
Anonymous No.64207091 >>64207131
>>64207080
Thank you for posting your 92 on 9/2
Anonymous No.64207122 >>64207143
>>64207080
I think that would be extremely gaudy
Anonymous No.64207131
>>64207091
Haaa!
Thats funny..cheers!
Anonymous No.64207143
>>64207122
Idk man....i feel like it would be subtle but give it some contrast at the same time
Anonymous No.64207166 >>64207500
>>64207080
Just go for silver ones, looks great on my Elite.
Anonymous No.64207184
>>64207040
Look anon attached a picture, that gun will just disappear under his fupa.
Anonymous No.64207225 >>64207235 >>64207281
https://langdontactical.com/ltt-np3-upgrade-kit-trigger-job-in-a-bag/

I really want to make my 92 Inox a Ghost but for this price I could get a second fucking gun
Anonymous No.64207235
>>64207225
This is NP3 coated, hence the price. You could easily make a Ghost with stainless parts, and it would probably blend better too.
Anonymous No.64207281
>>64207225
It also includes a trigger job in a bag, and a few small parts on the 92 are impossible to find new stainless parts so this kit is the next best thing

Or used parts kits on gunbroker from ghostedโ€™d 92s. I got one for 425 that came with a slide and barrel
Anonymous No.64207282 >>64207398
>>64207080
Gold doesn't go with dark red. Gold goes with purple or blue.
Anonymous No.64207398 >>64207420 >>64207430
>>64207282
>Gold goes with purple
Red too.
Anonymous No.64207420
>>64207398
I wonder hard would it be to make a crimson and white Glock with the Austrian crest engraved in it
Anonymous No.64207430 >>64207452
>>64207398
You'll notice I said dark red.
Anonymous No.64207452 >>64207850
>>64207430
I posted a bright red!
Anonymous No.64207500 >>64207663
>>64207166
Post Elite
Anonymous No.64207577 >>64209361
>>64207080
go for it
Anonymous No.64207663 >>64207895
>>64207500
NTA but
Anonymous No.64207673 >>64207903
Anonymous No.64207805 >>64207832 >>64208362
Anons, the PDP pro shoots really well
Anonymous No.64207832 >>64207850 >>64207994
>>64207805
>high bore axis
Anonymous No.64207850
>>64207452
Point out to me the bright red on anon's handgun for which he is asking fashion advice?

>>64207832
>noguns
Anonymous No.64207868 >>64207937
is a vp9 for a turkatto a good trade
Anonymous No.64207895
>>64207663
I can't tell if you're the usual homo that posts posed guns but at least there's no red dots on them thangz
>>64206939
That red dot makes you look gay
Anonymous No.64207903 >>64207925 >>64207938 >>64209770
>>64207673
Why do americans do that? To charge at a police officer with a knife knowing that they will kill you.
Anonymous No.64207925
>>64207903
Typically the Americanus genus is capable of some, perhaps rudimentary, degree of logic. However, when the Americanus Niggus species is enraged or upset all logic goes out the window
Anonymous No.64207933
I want it but I can't help but think SAR DO NOT REDEEM SAR every time I look at it
Anonymous No.64207937 >>64208056
>>64207868
i'm a tard i posted that backwards
thinking of trading my vp9 for the tisas b9r because I already have multiple Glocks and a PDP, and the vp9 is a solid gun but it just doesn't really do anything for me
Anonymous No.64207938
>>64207903
Bushido. Death before Dishonor. Banzai charge
Anonymous No.64207994
>>64207832
Meaningless term
Anonymous No.64208056
>>64207937
I wouldn't but then again I have no interest in turkshit. I doubt it's gonna light your world on fire either.
Anonymous No.64208078 >>64208088 >>64208103 >>64208121 >>64208516
>ben stoeger admits to playing steam games in VR
>joel park admits to playing CoD with lucas
>hwansik kim plays league of legends between dry fire sessions

these guys are actually just fucking nerds
Anonymous No.64208088
>>64208078
Yes and?
Anonymous No.64208103
>>64208078
If someone is autistic enough to sit and practice drawing from holster in front of a mirror for hours on end then I'm going to assume they also like Pokemon and/or trains
Anonymous No.64208121
>>64208078
Ben Stoeger on his own practiced dryfiring and shooting based on forum posts from competition shooting to the point where his first appearance at a USPSA match he qualified GM.
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64208137 >>64208164 >>64208174
Holy crap some insaniac actually bought an Ounce. And did a video about it. It's not really new information and not very interesting if you already know about the gun, but nobody talks about it so anything surfacing at all is remarkable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO_CNf2DpI4
Anonymous No.64208155 >>64209361
>>64207080
Maybe give them a brushed finish with ~400 grit sandpaper spinning them in a drill and straw finish them for a "light gold"? (heat them up and let them sit or hot salt solution; clickspring may have a video on the first easy method IIRC)
Anonymous No.64208164 >>64208174 >>64208187 >>64208195
>>64208137
What's a gun I can buy and do a video on that's fairly unique
Anonymous No.64208174
>>64208137
That's funny; I just got recommended a video about the ounce in the past couple days but it was only some guy looking at it at Shot Show or some other gun industry event.

>>64208164
Not Burt but new or out of production? Only handgun or anything goes?
Anonymous No.64208187
>>64208164
Do a series on all of the ring of fire guns/Saturday night specials. Jennings, Bryce, Rohm, etc.

would be laff
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64208195 >>64208794
>>64208164
Biofire
:)
Anonymous No.64208320 >>64208334
>>64203710
I want a vz 61 but cannot decide whether 380 or 32 is the better option
Anonymous No.64208334 >>64208365 >>64208487
>>64208320
32 is easier to find cheap, also it's the caliber the gun was designed for
Anonymous No.64208362
>>64207805
It really does, PDP is close to perfection
Anonymous No.64208365 >>64208487
>>64208334
In what world is 32 acp cheap?
Anonymous No.64208472 >>64212196
https://youtu.be/ftcbAL6O5_o

This guy makes interesting videos on guns
Anonymous No.64208487
>>64208365
>>64208334
a huge cache of Czech state security 32 thatโ€™s steel cored, hot and likely has limited armor piercing out of a VZ61 hit stateside. Itโ€™s solidly under 30cpr.

This has already been mentioned lots.
Anonymous No.64208516
>>64208078
Literally all gun guys that aren't A) fudds or B) hood rat casuals are nerds. Even the black ones
Layer in a hyper autistic gamer gear twitchy sport where at least 40% of your attention and mental capacity is spent trying to jump through 6 million rules in order to not DQ, no shit those guys are nerds
Anonymous No.64208794
>>64208195
Hey Bort, you fuck (i decided I'm not calling you a fat fuck anymore, so just a fuck). Been a while.
Anyway, you fuck, i know you like your weird frame variants in different colors. Pretty sure I've seen you showing off different colors of HK P2000 frames. Just recently saw listings for 3 different P2000 at auction coming up soon, a red, a blue and a fuckin transparent clear one. I'd post you a link but i don't want to run the numbers up if it's something you might be after but I'll get you the info if you need, lmk
Anonymous No.64209081
>>64207086
i just wear an overcoat. imostly use kung fu though.
Anonymous No.64209283 >>64211038
>>64203809
Cool. I trust it holds up nicely with use?
I'll have to do smth to my rifle as the paint peels off of it, factory fucked it up but i got a discount on it because of it so i dont mind too much. I've been eying custom paintjobs due to it. But i think i'll try a diy paintjob by myself first because i like fooling around
Anonymous No.64209361
>>64207577
Very nice....im sold

>>64208155
Thanks for the tip
Anonymous No.64209412 >>64209420 >>64209770
m1911 vs glock in reliability
Anonymous No.64209420
>>64209412
Glock wins no contest.
Anonymous No.64209538
What are some solid after market grips for an LTT compact?
Anonymous No.64209639
>>64206812
>Chiappa
Anon, I...
Anonymous No.64209770
>>64209412
1911s are the pinnacle... of range toys. They have gorgeous looks and wonderful triggers. Most of them are picky about ammo though, and all of them are more picky about maintenance than a Glock. Glocks are what you get for "I don't want to fuck with it" simple reliability. They're like a Toyota Camry, middle of the road price, ugly, uninteresting, but won't let you down, a 1911 is like a classic sports car. My prewar Colt runs like a top, with FMJ and the right magazine. I've never run it dirty and maintain it OCD-like so I don't know how it tolerates neglect. It hates most JHPs and some aftermarket mags. The cheaper springfield 1911 isn't as picky about mags but it still doesn't like many JHPs and occasionally malfunctions. This is typical of 1911s from what I've seen over the years.

>>64207903
>Americans
It's nignogs that do that, not "Americans". Most nignogs are barely human, let alone "American".
Anonymous No.64210259
Anyone here use thumb ramps or gas pedals? Do they help a lot?
Anonymous No.64210279
>>64203635
45 auto
Anonymous No.64210379
>>64203829
Hipoints will always look like a Nokia spot welded to a toothbrush
Anonymous No.64210811 >>64210833 >>64210837 >>64210898 >>64210952 >>64211287
Are ports/comps memes? Gonna buy a glock slide and I can't decide between just getting an oem or one with a ported slide/barrel
Anonymous No.64210820
>>64203635
10mm, if gun only allows 40 length, 357 Sig
Anonymous No.64210833 >>64210952
>>64210811
Kind of, I think they make a huge impression on people who arenโ€™t good at recoil mitigation (stance, grip technique, predictive shooting). If youโ€™re good, then it doesnโ€™t really reduce split time (time between shots) it just makes it easier/less effort to shoot. Porting doesnโ€™t seem to have that much reliability issues due to no added mass to the action but compensators can definitely make it start malfunctioning especially with a tilting barrel like a Glock.

Theyโ€™re definitely fun, make your gun louder, but donโ€™t get the impression that it will turn you into John Wick as you still need to put the effort in to get good hits.
Anonymous No.64210837
>>64210811
I'm not a big fan of either, but comps are substantially more effective than ports in my experience, due to the additional mass.
Anonymous No.64210898
>>64210811
see>>64206952
>>64207010
I wouldn't get one for a carry gun
Anonymous No.64210952
>>64210833
>>64210811
What you actually want is a suppressor
Anonymous No.64211038 >>64211063
>>64209283
Yeah I'm at somewhere between 15-16k rounds with it, it's my EDC and I do practice draw drills with it, although admittedly not as much as I would like for the past year since I've been in an area without any outdoor ranges. Here is the area with the most finish wear, this was maybe 2k rounds ago?
Anonymous No.64211063 >>64211198 >>64211212
>>64211038
>15-16k rounds with it
>That barrel hood
>An FN surviving more than 10k rounds
Yeah bullshit
Anonymous No.64211198 >>64211212 >>64211438 >>64211452
>>64211063
>shooting 15-16k rounds in about 3 years through your edc is inconceivable to him
Hey bud why are you on a gun enthusiast board if you don't shoot your guns?
Anonymous No.64211212 >>64211248 >>64211267 >>64211438
>>64211198
>>64211063
Here's what not cleaning a gun for 8k rounds looks like, since you don't shoot you might find it interesting.

Oh, and I've never had a gun related malfunction.
Anonymous No.64211248
>>64211212
Once again, this isn't shocking or crazy to people here. Guns are expected to do this, and most guys here shoot 1k rounds a month, not counting 22lr
Anonymous No.64211267 >>64211441 >>64211452
>>64211212
Here's what it looked like cleaned up. Shout out lubeanon's cleaner, that shit really works well.
Anonymous No.64211287 >>64211326
>>64210811
I'm asking myself the same thing I really want to test out a gun with a comp to see if its worth it
Anonymous No.64211326
>>64211287
Itโ€™s only worth it if you shoot real calibers (magnums) and donโ€™t only shoot in an indoor range, because it can be miserable on account of the shape of the baffles deflecting sound and or debris back at you.
Anonymous No.64211413
>>64203429 (OP)
My AZ summer CC...

Im looking to get something bigger for winter....im eyeing PMR30.

Kinda funny going from 5 rounds in the summer to 30 in the winter tho
Anonymous No.64211438 >>64211441
>>64211198
>>64211212
Why donโ€™t you clean your guns, anon? Donโ€™t you enjoy taking them apart and putting them together, observing the minute intricacies and interactions of the mechanisms? Does the smell of cleaner and oil not pleasant to your nose, the scrub of an old toothbrush not soothing to the ears and soul?
Anonymous No.64211441
>>64211438
>>64211267
Ah, okay. Better.
Anonymous No.64211452 >>64211518
>>64211198
>Hey bud why are you on a gun enthusiast board if you don't shoot your guns?
I do, I'm racist against FNiggers and your barrel hood legitimately looked like you had a couple thousand rounds at best on it.

>>64211267
That's way more like I expect from 10k+
Anonymous No.64211518 >>64211534
>>64211452
Lol, NTA but my FNSc is aging like fine wine
Why the FN hate?
Anonymous No.64211534 >>64211644 >>64211823
>>64211518
Buddy had three FNS9's eat shit and die in less than 20k rounds and FN told him he was in violation of warranty for not having them serviced every couple thousand rounds by an FN certified gunsmith and they wouldn't cover him. They also implied he shouldn't expect a handgun to last that long.
And I've shot a few P90s (and PS90s) and they were universally cheap trash.
I'm just extremely biased against the waffle nigger guns.
Anonymous No.64211644 >>64211666
>>64211534
Wow, never heard complaints like that on the FNS except them fixing the OOB striker thing. Do you know what the breakage was? Striker snapping?
Anonymous No.64211666 >>64211701 >>64211768
>>64211644
Checked
I believe all three were frame component related. He was trying to do some 100k rounds in a summer training thing and they all died before he could finish.
Anonymous No.64211701 >>64211748
>>64211666
Beast number checked back at ya
Well, that's disappointing, I've liked mine so far, but only have a few thousand through it. The later 509 series is the one that got all the testing, I wonder if it would have faired better
Anonymous No.64211723
>>64203429 (OP)
Anonymous No.64211748 >>64211761
>>64211701
Honestly it's their company reaction that put me off. Everyone makes lemons, everything breaks. But they were just outright "well why were you shooting it so much? Don't bother us"
Anonymous No.64211761 >>64211782
>>64211748
For real, a pretty gay response
Anonymous No.64211767 >>64211782
If you shot out a Hipoint and sent it in they'd laugh and send you a new gun
Anonymous No.64211768 >>64211801
>>64211666
>100k rounds in a summer training thing
That's a lot of fucking money holy shit.
Anonymous No.64211782
>>64211761
It's a shame, their striker guns would have been a nice market alternative. They look better than a lot of competition.
Once again, M&P 2.0 is the answer

>>64211767
I still need to send my $59 pawn shop hi-point in for new parts.
The mag baseplate exploded and the mag release spring is replaced with a rubber band wadded up under the button kek
Anonymous No.64211801
>>64211768
This was back when 9mm was like 14/16cpr but yeah, still thousands and thousands of dollars.
Sometimes a man just wakes up and decides he wants to be a GM and doesn't want to wait
Anonymous No.64211823 >>64211921
>>64211534
This is a lie.
Anonymous No.64211921
>>64211823
Well they did tweak the design for the 509. Maybe they knew there were inherent weak points in the FNS.
Captcha: SAPPY , kek
Anonymous No.64211937 >>64211955 >>64211966 >>64211970 >>64211988 >>64212123 >>64212161 >>64212221
>>64203429 (OP)
Hey if I don't have a timer and only have an indoor range what can I use?
Anonymous No.64211955
>>64211937
Anonymous No.64211966
>>64211937
You can set a timer on your phone for 5 seconds extra. And start shooting after you watch 5 seconds pass.

The timer I use works decently indoors, the Shooter Global Go timer since it has adjustable sensitivity, I use mine at 30% sensitivity and it mostly 99% of the time works unless people are shooting rifles unsuppressed in the next stall.
Anonymous No.64211970 >>64212108
>>64211937
You can get various shot timing apps on your phone. They work pretty well if nobody else is shooting around you. If it's a crowded range, then you might be SOL.
If you don't have a 25 yard range, you can print a smaller target and use that, but that's mostly a cope, because I've found that it's substantially easier to shoot a half sized target at half the distance. I can hold one inch groups at 12.5 yards easily, but two inch groups at 25 is much harder. I don't know why this is.
Anonymous No.64211988
>>64211937
you don't need anything to shoot
Just do drills and work fundamentals if you don't have a shot timer. You can set up par times by running a timer on your phone for a couple seconds and try to beat out the timer for draw and fire
Anonymous No.64212108
>>64211970
I think the max my indoor range has is 75 feet so it is 25 yards so that's good
Anonymous No.64212123 >>64212159 >>64212260 >>64212318
>>64211937
>>timer
Who fucking cares? Timers are gay
>>indoor range
Good enough
>>muh drills, muh splits
Sport shooters are aids. Just learn the shit out of yourself firearm and carry method. Clean, disassemble, resemble often. Do function tests. Dry fire to learn your trigger. Get dummy rounds if you want. Practice quick draw.
Despite what the autistic faggots on this board will try and fallacy in, the facts remain. He who draws first wins by a significant majority. Often without firing a shot. He who shoots first and hits wins, by a significant majority irregardless of shot placement.
Learn, to draw, learn to shoot fast and hit a dinner plate at 7 yards and you will be better than these fucked up sport faggots. Learn to point shoot with one hand and you will be a better gunfighter than 99.99% of the pistol owning world population.
Facts bitches. You fat desk riding paper punching faggots seethe.
Anonymous No.64212159 >>64212174
>>64212123
Anonymous No.64212161
>>64211937
If you're doing it for the challenge, just go by feel. It's all honor system anyways
Anonymous No.64212174 >>64212191
>>64212159
Hey fatty show us that picture of your iwb crammed under your pasty gut sitting at your desk again. That unused weekend warrior pistol worn from wearing it like jewelery not from actual use.
The entire history of the firearm has provided evidence I'm right. Gathering data from all pistol encounters proves me right. All the gathered data from police involved shootings proves me right.
The fact every single departments sop is when in doubt whip it out shows I am right.
Seethe more piggy.
Anonymous No.64212180
My pocket pistol fell out of its holster, straight out of my pants and landed between the driver seat and arm rest. If I was a slob and had trash there it could have fallen into the trigger guard and pulled the trigger as I pulled it up.
Anonymous No.64212191 >>64212195 >>64212218
>>64212174
Going to post a gun? Times? A video of you shooting?
Anonymous No.64212195
>>64212191
Nogunz asking me to post a gun? Post one up nogunz
Anonymous No.64212196
>>64208472
buy an ad
Anonymous No.64212218 >>64212225 >>64212284 >>64212730 >>64215410
>>64212191
Let's see that striker fired getto garbage fatty
Anonymous No.64212221
Dude weed lol!

>>64211937
Phone timer with waiting until a specified amount of time as others have stated.
Anonymous No.64212225 >>64212259
>>64212218
>a Colt
lol poorfag
Anonymous No.64212259 >>64212286
>>64212225
Clearly you have zero idea what you are looking at dipshit.
But come on, let's see that plastic crap you carry. Striker fired. Garbage.
Anonymous No.64212260
>>64212123
Is this guy a regular here? I feel like every time glock or 32fag stop posting he does, its it just the same person?
Anonymous No.64212267 >>64212290 >>64212312 >>64212483
I regret to inform you that I am once again desiring a P232, despite its obsolescence and impracticality.
Anonymous No.64212284
>>64212218
Why don't you carry a derringer since you according to you all that matters is being faster on the draw? You're too much of a bitch to take your own advice.
Anonymous No.64212286 >>64212297
>>64212259
Today I happen to be carrying my Nighthawk Custom Predator III
Anonymous No.64212290
>>64212267
I like mine but some of the springs (hammer rebound spring specifically) are not made and surplus don't exist.
Anonymous No.64212297 >>64212321 >>64213829
>>64212286
Anonymous No.64212312
>>64212267
https://www.gunsinternational.com/search-results.cfm?qs_cat=&Quick_Search_Keyword=p232&start_row=1&the_order=6

Go for it
Anonymous No.64212318
>>64212123
I'm just asking for the challenge man idk why you're coming at me with your unresolved issues
Anonymous No.64212321 >>64212329 >>64213829
>>64212297
>red bowl
You pissin' blood, bro?
Anonymous No.64212329
>>64212321
NDโ€™d again. Part and parcel of carrying a gun appendix
Anonymous No.64212366 >>64212376 >>64212379 >>64212405
Would .22 be retarded to carry? Genuinely considering buying a TX22 and trying to rationalize it since I want the FRT for it. Could be a range toy i guess but eh
Anonymous No.64212376 >>64212411
>>64212366
Generally, yes. If you need to put down a dude on angel dust or speed, a .22 isnโ€™t the ideal round to do that.
Anonymous No.64212379 >>64212411
>>64212366
Terminal effectiveness aside (itโ€™s not good), .22 long rifle is a rim fire cartridge and is inherently more unreliable than center fire. It still exists today due to momentum of .22 lr and how it cheap it is to make rimfire versus centerfire.

While โ€œlegalโ€ for now, FRTs will not look good to the prosecutor and youโ€™ll probably be hit with MG charges anyway because they either donโ€™t know how it works or care.
Anonymous No.64212405 >>64212411
>>64212366
The only excuse for carrying a .22 is ludicrously small size and even that isn't a good reason because the Ruger LCP and Lelkek exist. The TX22 isn't small at all.
Anonymous No.64212411 >>64212416 >>64212431
>>64212376
>>64212379
>>64212405
How about 32 pocket pistol from the 90's?
Anonymous No.64212416
>>64212411
Why are you
Anonymous No.64212427
Is "arp" a nig term? Anytime I see "arp" on florida guntrader there's usually a black hand or it's some hood nigger account with blurry photos, ten listings of random glocks with olights, and no information in the listing
I'm at the point where I won't even bother with people who can't communicate effectively on there
Anonymous No.64212431 >>64212438
>>64212411
I honestly don't think there's any good reason for carrying a caliber smaller than 9mm unless you inherited a gun and fuck huge stockpile of that ammo in which case I'd sell it and by a 9mm
Anonymous No.64212438 >>64212450
>>64212431
I agree, but I have seen some really cute .380s. Including a 1911 micro by Springfield, done in rose.
Anonymous No.64212450 >>64212477
>>64212438
I would rather an American of sound mind and body carrying anything over nothing but a .380 gives off the vibes of "huge pussy" or "hipster faggot" in an era of micro 9s. If you don't care what people think of you, carry whatever you want but .380 is higher cost for less power.
Anonymous No.64212477 >>64212478 >>64213488
>>64212450
>a .380 gives off the vibes of "huge pussy" or "hipster faggot"
But it comes in rose.
Anonymous No.64212478 >>64212613
>>64212477
This in actually a good gun. Reliable and very nice to shoot. Back when Sig made good overpriced guns.
Anonymous No.64212483
>>64212267
It has the aesthetic. It was my first handgun i bought, but I returned it for a USP 45 because it could not stop jamming. Apparently in 2006 it had an ejector problem. I heard it was fixed.

It looks cool, and trigger is ok, but it leaves a lot to be desired in how it shoots, the sights and changing mags.
Anonymous No.64212511
>>64206473
What the fuck are you wearing?
Anonymous No.64212513
>>64206473
Why so many klinefelters on /k/? Built like a fuckin grandma
Anonymous No.64212613 >>64213347 >>64213489
>>64212478
>actually a good gun
Hipster faggotry aside, the (desert) Gold Rose is kinda nce finish. Out of the display case, it showed every goober's fingerprints, but wiped up easily. The hand fitment, to mine, was nice, and the immediate reaction was a feel of quality. The dusty rose gold isn't really, really gay, and I would gladly OC for style points, though I would buy this for CC or backup. Right next to it was a mini-me Bodyguard 2 in .380 and first instinct said
>why not both?
Waay lighter.
Anonymous No.64212730
>>64212218
So what holster do you carry that gun with?
Anonymous No.64213081
Bore axis is the great filter
If you ever see anyone complaining about bore axis, know that they can't shoot
Anonymous No.64213090 >>64213107 >>64213155 >>64213282
Reminder that the top shooters in the world use 2011s and glocks not basedrettas.
Anonymous No.64213102
best aiwb holster for a glock 19 and x300?
Anonymous No.64213107
>>64213090
I don't care. I still love my H&Ks.
Anonymous No.64213155 >>64214323
>>64213090
Except P320s and CZ Shadows don't exactly have low bore axis
Anonymous No.64213282 >>64214323
>>64213090
>Walther
>Canik
>CZ
>Sig
>19/2011s have the highest bore axis of all
oops there goes your theory, noguns.
Anonymous No.64213347 >>64213489
>>64212613
I saw a rose gold sig pistol once and man it was unironically beautiful to me. I was genuinely impressed at how nice it looked
Anonymous No.64213488 >>64213495
>>64212477
Anon, it's actually ok to be gay, in the year of our Lord 2025 who seriously cares, go for it, if you like a rose gold 380, you should carry one.
Anonymous No.64213489
>>64212613
>>why not both?
>>64213347
>genuinely impressed
I will probably buy then both. At one point, I told myself
>nothing samller than 9mm
>standardize
Fuck it. I am the one holding myself back. I am the one imposing limits. STOP IT! I can be limitless! I can have it all! You can too.
Anonymous No.64213495
>>64213488
>if you like a rose gold 380, you should carry one
Not a problem. I will not be gay, tho. I still impose SOME limits. Degeneracy is not on my to do list. I'll get a nice ".380 odd couple" by Christmas, God willing.
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64213612
Rose gold? Just gold for me thanks
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64213616 >>64213661
Rose gold? Just gold for me thanks
Anonymous No.64213661
>>64213616
For me, it's the McChicken.
Anonymous No.64213699
>Rose gold .380
Anonymous No.64213705 >>64213721 >>64213724
>>64204677
Finally took it apart.
It was filthy but otherwise perfect other than rust starting to form in some parts and able to shoot q tips across the room. Grip is broken from being dropped it seems
Why would someone have not wanted this?

>Brescia
Basically, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWPZiGWma1E
Anonymous No.64213721 >>64213760 >>64216347
>>64213705
>Why would someone have not wanted this?
I wouldn't want a gun I just killed someone with in my possession either
Anonymous No.64213724 >>64213760
>>64213705
>Why would someone have not wanted this?
Sure is a head scratcher.
Anonymous No.64213760 >>64216347
>>64213721
You canโ€™t kill with 25, silly anon
>>64213724
Fucker broke the grip
Anonymous No.64213829
>>64212297
>>64212321
Should be carrying some water
Anonymous No.64213835 >>64214692
As a semi poor nigger (~$2k budget) what are some 1911's to look at that aren't utter dogshit?
Anonymous No.64213922 >>64216200
I want to get a p220 elite so bad but there are no Safariland holsters for the current production model and the aftermarket replacement part market is shit for it.
Anonymous No.64214287 >>64214399 >>64215449 >>64215737 >>64217861
alright DA/SA bros I want a polymer framed DA/SA gun to carry, should I get a PX4, a P30 or a P07? cast your vote NOW
Anonymous No.64214323
>>64213155
>>64213282
Who said anything about bore axis nogunz? Learn to read
Anonymous No.64214399
>>64214287
Weirdly enough, Taurus is still making one too, but if the PX4 is on the table the Taurus TH series shouldn't be.
Anonymous No.64214478
Did pastebin ever post his targets here?
Anonymous No.64214692 >>64215379
>>64213835
Dan Wesson,
Used Les Baers, sometimes Wilson Combats used drop below 2k, Iโ€™ve seen a few Nighthawks 2.5k recently. Wilsonโ€™s entry level gun (ACP) is like sub 3k new distributor price so used they should be less than 2k

I got this Colt 1911 from 1978 that was worked over by some gunsmith for only 800 and it runs great
Anonymous No.64214700
Staccatoheroes....
Anonymous No.64214717
I think the italians are based. Please ask me why
Anonymous No.64214763 >>64214785
guys i bought an m9a4 and i shot it and it is cool i paid $858 + $25 transfer fee thank you
Anonymous No.64214785 >>64214822
>>64214763
>$858
RIP
Anonymous No.64214822 >>64214853 >>64214870
>>64214785
what i thought that was a good price did i get scammed that was the lowest i saw
Anonymous No.64214842 >>64214846 >>64214860 >>64214935
I'm finally accepting the pistol red dot pill at the same time I'm changing my larp gun to a glawk 34

RMR type 2 or holosun SCS?

I already use suppressor height sights so I don't care about the lower cowitness of the SCS, but I do like how the SCS is made for the glock mos cut so the slide will exert force on the whole optic "frame" rather than putting all the force on just the screws if I used the RMR or any other dot with an adapter plate. But on the otherhand, muh trijicon vs muh holochinkshit
Anonymous No.64214846 >>64214851 >>64214864 >>64215898
>>64214842
Glocks aren't allowed here.
Anonymous No.64214851
>>64214846
Fallacious statement.
Anonymous No.64214853
>>64214822
Nah I just checked, I was remembering pricing based off the drop when they lost the military selection, think they were going for 6xx back then. Looks like mid 800s is the going price these days
Anonymous No.64214860
>>64214842
RMR if you're ok with open emitter, best track record so no persuasive reason to pick something else. EPS if you want enclosed.
Anonymous No.64214864
>>64214846
post stock photos of guns you claim to own
Anonymous No.64214870 >>64214883
>>64214822
Nta, but almost $900 seems high. But you got a nice one, it's brand new and it's yours, so be happy and enjoy it!
Anonymous No.64214872 >>64214886
>>64203462
Ah the APX
Not a bad gun at all, I managed to get the nearly new Hue Surplus APX and I love the toblerone look it had
Anonymous No.64214883 >>64214953
>>64214870
Perhaps I just didn't look hard enough, but that $858 was the lowest I was able to find by a decent margin after looking around for a while.
Anonymous No.64214886
>>64203462
>>64214872
So nice in fact that my fucking thumb went numb and chose the wrong image
Anonymous No.64214935
>>64214842
There should be no issue with the RMR if you use a good plate

Buy American.
Anonymous No.64214937 >>64215286
Obligatory
Anonymous No.64214953 >>64215015
>>64214883
>didn't look hard enough
It's fine, you got a very nice pistol. I haven't priced them since I got mine in '95 for $400. Money was harder to come by back then... but it meant more.
Anonymous No.64215015 >>64215041
>>64214953
You got an M9A4 in 95'? We got a time traveler over here.
Anonymous No.64215041 >>64215049
>>64215015
M92FS, smartie.
Anonymous No.64215049
>>64215041
Lol, wrong pic...
Anonymous No.64215248 >>64215447 >>64215505
Anonymous No.64215286 >>64215387 >>64216047
>>64214937
>Most recent photo with a a gun and anime figure was over a year ago
Pic related
Anonymous No.64215379 >>64216522
>>64214692
Cool thanks I needed a place to start without digging through a bunch of forum posts or watching 40 boomer scam youtube videos
Anonymous No.64215387 >>64215410 >>64215413 >>64216068
>>64215286
Is that show good? I couldnโ€™t get past the second episode
Anonymous No.64215410 >>64215436 >>64215458
>>64215387
Wait, Detonics anon is schizo drill hater anon? >>64212218
Anonymous No.64215413
>>64215387
Serious vintage.
Anonymous No.64215436 >>64215463
>>64215410
No. Different sights, different roll marks dude
Anonymous No.64215447
>>64215248
Peak performance
Anonymous No.64215449
>>64214287
SP2022
Anonymous No.64215458
>>64215410
>Two entirely different guns

WAIT IS THIS THE SAME THING??? GOTTA KEEP KICKING THE DRAMA CAN!!

Kill yourself faggot.
Anonymous No.64215463
>>64215436
Oh thank god, I like Detonics anon, I was so disappointed
Anonymous No.64215505
>>64215248
post view from the back, I want to see how much COA overhangs slimline slide
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64215737 >>64215821
>>64214287
Waltherยฎ brand P99ยฉโ„  Pistolโ„ข?
Anonymous No.64215821 >>64215835
>>64215737
Is that grip texture better than it looks? Looks like shit.
Burt !Gummer6chk No.64215835
>>64215821
There's an Appโ„ข for that
Anonymous No.64215898
>>64214846
Based
Anonymous No.64215916
Why stop at walter?
Anonymous No.64216047 >>64216089
>>64215286
Lemme rectify that right quick.
Anonymous No.64216068
>>64215387
Yeah it's good but it does have some questionable things but it's nothing preachy
Anonymous No.64216089
>>64216047
Gotta charge my 4chin phone so I can get a pic. I'm thinking Rin from Yuru Camp with my Ruger LCP. For now, 2B with the Glicky.
Anonymous No.64216200 >>64216219
>>64213922
>the aftermarket replacement part market is shit for it
Wrong.
Anonymous No.64216219 >>64216262 >>64216329
>>64216200
I mean internal parts wise if something breaks.
Anonymous No.64216262
>>64216219
Still wrong.
https://www.matrixprecisionparts.com/product-category/sig-sauer/p220/
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/sig-sauer-P220/parts.html#/perpage:48

eBay too.
Anonymous No.64216329 >>64216356
>>64216219
You can call Sig and buy any part.
Anonymous No.64216347
>>64213721
>>64213760
I take it back, this gun might be more dangerous than I thought https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muqFver9b8k

Tempted to slip in my coat pocket since it looks so cute and is basically built like a mini browning
Anonymous No.64216356 >>64216722
>>64216329
Except for a p320 fire control that doesnโ€™t have a slipping striker
Anonymous No.64216522
>>64215379
I listed those since at 2k you can completely skip the 1k-1.5k mid range and buy a used 4-5k 1911 at the right price.
Anonymous No.64216611
>>64205559
nice wheelguns
Anonymous No.64216722
>>64216356
Anonymous No.64216863 >>64216896
https://www.gatewoodsupplyco.com/SureFire-Laser-Products-Beretta-92F-92SB-Weaponlight_p_8703.html

Someone buy this so I donโ€™t have to buy a Beratta.
Anonymous No.64216896 >>64216909
>>64216863
>$400

Why
Anonymous No.64216909 >>64217369 >>64217432
>>64216896
Incredibly rare WML for cloners
Anonymous No.64217369
>>64216909
If only I had an old 92 to match it they still have eluded me. Mine was made in like 2022
Anonymous No.64217432 >>64217456 >>64217878
>>64216909
That's hideous. I thought you were supposed to clone things that looked cool, not things that look like a shitty 80s sci fi movie prop
Anonymous No.64217456
>>64217432
>80s sci fi movie prop
That makes it even cooler.
Anonymous No.64217728
>>64203445
Neat collection
Anonymous No.64217861
>>64214287
P30 spooderman grip is really comfy, but it has the worst trigger of all time, and itโ€™s too big to really conceal.
Anonymous No.64217878 >>64217941
>>64217432
Silence zoomer.
Anonymous No.64217901
>>64217892
>>64217892
>>64217892
>>64217892
Anonymous No.64217941
>>64217878
Regrettably I'm probably older than you are, kid.