Thread 64212079

>Flew over the Mediterranean sea undetected
>Dropped a shit ton of armament on Iran
Does anyone else have the same capability? It's Hiroshima/Nagasaki 2.0

Don't forget it's successor is gonna be even more sneaky and come in bigger packs

>>64212079 (OP)
>>64212103
All hail Jack Northrop

>>64212103
>even more sneaky
Is it? I thought it was basically just the same thing except way cheaper, although I suppose it's probably at least marginally stealthier even if that wasn't the design goal just because it's got so much new tech going into it.

>>64212079 (OP)
>Does anyone else have the same capability?
No, and they also don't have the ISR assets to compliment it.

>>64213117
it's two generations removed from the B1, it's probably quite a bit more than a little sneakier than it, it's smaller so it's RCS is going to be smaller just by default and it has much better range so less in flight refueling from non stealth tankers

>>64212079 (OP)
Who indeed? In this age of the world no existence can truly stop such power.

>>64213120
The Chinese are certainly getting there, though for some reason they still don't have an actual stealth bomber, or even any strategic bomber that isn't a Soviet derivative.

>>64213459
>they still don't have an actual stealth bomber
probably have troubles with coatings

>>64213459
Every single PLA watchers was betting on a mystery reveal of the H-20 in yesterday's parade and it was pretty funny watching their reactions when nothing was shown

>>64212079 (OP)
It's not exactly hard to be "undetected" if you are flying over an ocean without radar, and a country who only had cold-war era radar and they were destroyed long before the attack because they had shit anti-air capability to begin with.

They could have dropped the bomb with a B52, giving their flight path in advance to Iran, it wouldn't have changed anything.

>>64213459
A Pontiac Fiero with a fiberglass kit-car Ferrari body doesn't make it a Ferrari. It's all about what's under the skin ;^)


It's the ISR counterpart to the B-21. Just like QUARTZ/AARS/TIER III was the ISR counterpart to the B-2. It looks like NG's Sensorcraft (see pic), as it's lineage is NG's SensorCraft. Basically a Very Low Observable (VLO) flying wing RQ-4 Global hawk/JSTARS used for ELINT/SIGINT, Electronic Attack (EA), and ISR tasks. It uses metamaterials and Conformal Load-Bearing Antenna Structures (CLAS) to make the whole airframe one giant very sensitive, high gain X-Band radar able to 'see' 360 degrees in both air-to-air mode and air-to-ground mode. Air-to-ground uses that radar in SAR mode, allowing it to penetrate canopies (nets, foliage, etc.) to find targets. It being a HUGE X-band gives it the ability in Ground Moving Target Indicator (GMTI) to map the whole battle space, and everything in it, at a very high resolution of <4 inches. Here are some articles, presentations, and papers on the information above:

>Sensorcraft LOBSTAR CLAS:
https://www.microwavejournal.com/articles/print/1695-northrop-grumman-airborne-antenna-offers-better-look-at-ground-targets
https://investor.northropgrumman.com/news-releases/news-release-details/northrop-grummans-load-bearing-antennas-offer-airborne
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA428754.pdf
https://www.slideserve.com/aldona/advanced-structural-concepts-branch-overview
>Paper on CLAS uses:
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA470328.pdf
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA412866.pdf

>>64213459
They're not, and no matter how much Chinkesoid spam you post will make it true

>>64212079 (OP)
>Does anyone else have the same capability?
No

>>64216135
>It looks like NG's Sensorcraft (see pic), as it's lineage is NG's SensorCraft.

>>64216135
>Conformal Load-Bearing Antenna Structures (CLAS)

>>64216135
Though, it's more a higher end version of the Global Hawk. RQ-4 was TIER II+, RQ-180 is TIER III, or at least TIER III-. QUARTZ/AARS/TIER III was deemed too costly to build and field more than a handful of platforms, and too technologically advanced to be used in any conflict except WWIII. That's where the RQ-4 can trace its lineage back to. They wanted something less advanced that they could use anywhere, while still being a very capable ISR platform. LM Darkstar was TIER III-, and Frontier Systems Shadow was a TIER II+ version of their Frontier Systems W570 TIER III proposal.

>>64216135
>QUARTZ/AARS/TIER III
Looked very similar to the LM/Boeing NGB/LRS-B proposal that lost to what became the B-21.

>>64216135
>It being a HUGE X-band gives it the ability in Ground Moving Target Indicator (GMTI) to map the whole battle space, and everything in it, at a very high resolution of <4 inches.
Here's what SAR with a 4-inch resolution looks like.

>>64216192
With a very extensive off-board threat library, it's able to automatically classify anything it happens to map in almost real-time. Now, add in the ability to use VideoSAR, and you have an all weather system that can 'see' just as well as any EO/IR pod fielded. The US has used ViSAR on an AC-130 gunship for all-weather targeting, and Sandia has a pretty good VideoSAR radar. You can see some of its abilities here:
https://www.sandia.gov/radar/pathfinder-radar-isr-and-synthetic-aperture-radar-sar-systems/video/

>ViSAR on AC-130:
https://idstch.com/military/air/darpas-video-synthetic-aperture-radar-visar-successfully-demonstrated-new-sensor-can-capture-real-time-video-clouds-engaging-moving-ground-targets-aircraft/
https://www.aviationtoday.com/2018/09/28/will-video-synthetic-aperture-radar-revolutionize-close-air-support/
https://www.militaryaerospace.com/rf-analog/article/16715844/l3-to-develop-imaging-radar-prototype-to-give-ac130-gunship-more-punch-in-bad-weather
https://www.militaryaerospace.com/rf-analog/article/16715844/l3-to-develop-imaging-radar-prototype-to-give-ac130-gunship-more-punch-in-bad-weather

>>64216216
More VideoSAR WebMs

>>64216192
>>64216216
>>64216220
>>64216226
Good overview of SAR here:
https://medium.com/the-downlinq/sar-101-an-introduction-to-synthetic-aperture-radar-2f0b6246c4a0
https://medium.com/the-downlinq/sar-201-an-introduction-to-synthetic-aperture-radar-part-2-895beb0b4c0a
https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/1398368 (Click view conference - green button, left-hand side)
https://www.radartutorial.eu/20.airborne/!ab01.en.html
Polarimetric SAR: https://nisar.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/get-to-know-sar/polarimetry/

Thank you ISR anon

>>64212079 (OP)
Why compete when you can just buy senators and bureaucrats.
>>64213053
DoD works for the federal reserve and their corporate partners. Jack Northrop was a parasite.

I think what made the Iran stealth attack cool is we got so used to seeing this complete crazy Ukraine war that seeing an actual competent attack run was awesome.

>>64218177
Dronefag thirdies btfo

>>64217420
>troonistanian rambling
No thank you

>>64212079 (OP)
No need. Trump's people leaked the attack to Iran before hand. It was only performative to keep the Jews happy. The nuclear facility was not badly damaged. No amount of stealth can beat a compromised administration that uses Signal to discuss top secret matters.

>>64219459
Facts

>>64219459
This

what a worthless waste of bandwidth "topic" and thread

>>64213459
China doesn't want bombers because it needs to telegraph that it's not a REAL nuclear power in order for any of their regional aggression to not end in nuclear saturation.

>>64212103
Still going to have the same issue the entire USAF will have, which is very curtailed/slow sortie rates after the nearby based are zoned out or cratered by chink 1 gorzillion ballistic missile spam attacks. That's why the FA-XX funding being cut and given over to the F-47 is a head scratcher

>>64219709
The F-47 is named for Trump. So it caught his eye more. Simple as.

>>64219709
Why do you think that? The AF wants to acquire at least 100 and with it being explicitly built to be easier and cheaper to maintain. It's like you forgot refueling exists.

>>64219741
If you're a subsonic bomber forced to fly from farther and farther away bases, the closest practical ones being Guam, Clark, maybe Singapore, your sortie rate goes down due to a bizzare physics phenomenon known as the time distance velocity relationship

>>64219749
They'd never be flown out of Kadena or even Clark anyway. They're too close. An aspect of a stealth strike is not knowing where it's coming from and also keeping the bombers safe as possible.

>>64213353
If it's physically smaller it doesn't mean it's going to have smaller RCS. Physical size doesn't have any effect on the RCS. Only the curvature of the edges and the RAM has.

>>64219757
Low frequency VHF early warning radars can be reflected back due to physical size, so it does serve some advantages to be smaller.

>>64219754
You realize you are making my point for me right? Sortie rate is going to be absolutely trivial. For all the problems with it, a CVN is still the best option for combat relevant sortie rates in a Taiwan situation.

>>64219723
Jesus christ is it bad I never clocked that before?
Was being able to claim the Space Force not enough?

>>64219765
Why would we need to do a mass bombing campaign when these bombers would be reserved for high value targets? Rapid Dragon is probably gonna do a lot of the heavy lifting because now china's gotta target a billion transports.

>>64212079 (OP)
ah yes the nothingburger plane

>>64219939
Great thirdie cope

>>64219939
it looks like a nothingburger to thirdies because they literally can't see it as it bombs them to smithereens.

>>64212079 (OP)
Used to work below one of their flight paths. It wasnt uncommon for me to look up and just see one. Never really heard it, just saw it. It is a very surreal experience.

>>64212079 (OP)
You kill the pilot's families
Ezpz

>>64219939
Don't jinx it asshole
It wouldn't surprise me if B-2s and B-21s are used against China.
After all, the B-2 was designed to completely btfo the Soviet Unit

>>64220235
Sorry the airforce didnt want you

>>64212103
I love this lil' goober

>>64220245
I never wanted to die for Israel or feminists

>>64221095
Uh huh, was this before or after you fled from /thedonald bans?

>>64221118
I dont go to plebbit, you seem familiar with it

>>64221559
>no u
this is what plebbitors tend to do when their behaviour outs them as a newfag and an outsider.

>>64212079 (OP)
>Flew over the Mediterranean sea undetected
>Implying the dozens of stratotankers glowing like a christmas tree weren't detected

>>64224680
Yes because the tankers flew in formation with the Spirits the entire way into enemy airspace

>>64224680
>Implying the dozens of stratotankers glowing like a christmas tree weren't detected
Then surely you can produce at least one report on them, then. No?