Thread 64212407

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>>64212407 (OP)
Airframe fatigue and deferred maintenance is now affecting even the Tu-160s.
>During the large-scale missile and drone attack on Ukraine on the night of September 2–3, three Russian strategic bombers reportedly failed to launch their missiles due to technical problems.
>According to Militarnyi, citing the Telegram channel Dossier Spy, the Tu-160 bomber Ivan Yarygin (tail number 04) could not fire its missiles because of a malfunction in the launch mechanism. Another Tu-160, Alexey Plokhov (tail number 16), was struck by lightning during the mission, damaging the cockpit glazing and forcing the crew to abort the flight and return to base.
>A third aircraft, of an unspecified type, reportedly failed to take off from Engels Airbase. The cause of the malfunction remains unknown.
>The failure of two bombers has been interpreted as a possible sign of the Russian defense industry’s difficulties in properly maintaining its strategic fleet. Analysts also suggest that intensive use and the exhaustion of critical components may contribute to such malfunctions.
>https://united24media.com/latest-news/russian-strategic-tu-160-bombers-malfunction-fail-to-launch-missiles-during-massive-ukraine-strike-11366

What happens after one piece of the triad is gone? Because supposedly USA could also handle with second piece in form of those loud submarines with relative ease...

>>64212490
Half the ICBMs probably don't even work because hypergolics only last for 10 years and chances are the money to swap out the fuel went to some guy's yacht

>>64212407 (OP)
not as good as it once was

>>64212407 (OP)
What BR?

>>64212407 (OP)
>Gopnik caps

>>64212407 (OP)
Either broken, burned, or in bunkers.

>>64212407 (OP)
>he laughed, calmly

>>64212523
russian strategic bombers have the option to go back into battle without completing repairs to save you valuable silver lions.

>>64212407 (OP)
ORANGE MAN
ORANGE MAN REEEE
DRUMPF
MUH DRUMPFH
REEEEEEE
MONKE PUPPET
ORANGE lol
ORANGE MONKE
TWO MORE BORIS JOHNSONS

>>64212420
Are there any good sources on how reliable they were before 2022? I remember reading early on they were obscene hangar queens that made current day B-1s look fresh and easily maintained and preparing one for a mission took forever

>>64212714
They're massive maintenance hogs and always have been

>>64212420
>united24media(ukrainian propaganda rag and e-begging coordinator) said russia had a le ebin fail

What happened this time?

>>64212837
Their bombers keep turning into what looks like a cat throwing up a hairball

>>64212858
>oh look, a penny
alternative:
>my posture while i google "why does my neck always hurt?"

>>64212858
NOOOOOOO Tu-22M! You're not supposed to eat the yellow now!

>>64212817
First of all, I'm not transgendered. Second of all, even if I (or anyone) was, there's nothing wrong with that.

>>64212420
>The failure of two bombers has been interpreted as a possible sign of the Russian defense industry’s difficulties in properly maintaining its strategic fleet
>Analysts also suggest that intensive use and the exhaustion of critical components may contribute to such malfunctions
Operation Cobweb is in full swing.

>>64212905
mr poodin, I don't feel so gud :[

>>64212407 (OP)
>ITT: /k/ calmly discusses the current state of the Russian strategic bomber fleet


its fine and its currently having mercy not striking the last civil infrastructure keeping keev'indian culture from disintigrating into plastic-bag-shit chaos

>>64212943
>>64212858
do these posts un-fire missiles at keev?

>>64212817
>>64212972
is this what winning looks like?

>>64212972
You really gonna seethe about a plane crash from 2019?

>>64212817
>always blame others in own wrongdoing
Get em zisters

>>64213001
>the tranny flag curtains behind them

>>64212817
my brown friend, this info is easy check by the fact that all of the ru aviation activity is tracked day and night and the amount of missiles launched isn't what it used to be

>>64212420
>Another Tu-160, Alexey Plokhov (tail number 16), was struck by lightning during the mission, damaging the cockpit glazing and forcing the crew to abort the flight and return to base.
Can you blame fatigue and maintenance for that?

>>64213109
Crucifix mounted in the cockpit had fallen on to the floor.

>>64213095
>recruits having such long feminine hair

>>64213113
if they're flying without heresy protection then lightning is the least of their worries, imagine if they'd flown too close to the Kuznetsov

>>64212407 (OP)
Pilot, co-pilot. What do the two in back do? Navigator & Bombardier?

>>64213001
>>64213095
Huh. Who recorded this and why?

>>64213136
Yeah, nav and wso

>>64213109
>Can you blame fatigue and maintenance for that?
Well, the maintenance crew has to fix the cockpit and possibly some electronics so it's their problem now.

>>64213109
Pretty sure even Soviet aircraft are supposed to be able to launch missiles without being able to see the target out of the windshield.

>>64213158
>Who recorded this
The air defense cuckold.
>and why?
He had to measure the eggs.

>>64212505
Dont russia use solid fuel icbms? I didn't think anyone would use liquid fuel icbms except maybe the norks.

>>64213401
Sarmat is liquid fueled

>>64212858
>>64212943
I'd just like to point out that's not typical

>>64213450
Wut. I see that I know absolutely nothing about ICBMs, since even the Titan ii is liquid fueled.

>>64213657
You were close enough. The rest of their icbm's are solid fueled, or solid fueled first stage with optional liquid fueled upper stages depending on the payload.

>>64212972
No? they weren’t meant to, we don’t care about you wasting your missiles on civvie targets
Did this post unrape the russian bomberforce and stop russia’s gasoline shortage?

>>64212407 (OP)
>ITT: /k/ calmly discusses the current state of the Russian strategic bomber fleet
I commend your efforts OP
the premise was fun while it lasted

>>64213659
A lot of their newer ones might be, but those are also the ones constantly failing in tests and it’s a tiny part of their inventory.
The VAST majority of their missile stock is old ass liquid fueled missiles and most of those are probably corroded to shit by now

>>64212420
>airframe fatigue
"God damn FRAMERS, leaving rust everywhere, giving everyone tetanus, lowering the country's IQ... TFD."

>>64212972
Did those missiles fired at keev help Russia advance this summer?

>>64212858
>OY VEY A PENNY!

>>64213711
hato lies...everyone knows udmh and nto are prefectly stable and non-corrosive, the missiles work fine

>>64213625
Well, how is it untypical?

>>64213896
I don't think the ass end of a backfire is supposed to go flying away on its own like that

>>64213123
Cuz it's a woman

>>64213659
Completely unrelated, but recently playing Kerbal Space program has finally revealed to me what are the differences between liquid and solid fuels(beyond them being liquid and solid ofc) and why would someone willingly use liquid fuel instead of solid fuels in a rocket when given the option.

>>64213896
Well the front doesn't normally fall off.

>>64213981
It's all about the payload imo. Do you play with the Real Fuels mod? Boil-off and ullage really add a fun dynamic to the game once you've got orbital mechanics down.

>>64213949
Het. Indomitable will of Soviet plane fighting for motherland will keep it fly even if pilot is kill.

>>64213949
tbf backfire is in the name

>>64213993
Nah, my main gameplay changing mod is Kerbalism atm, as it's my first time playing. But if I run a RP-1 game later I'll look into real fuels then

>>64213959
A woman with a penis?

>>64213095
>West-2025

I learned that ZAPAD means WEST because of Russian gay amateur porn. This is wild.

>>64213981
I think you can't shut off a solid fuel rocket.

>>64216210
You can, The Minuteman III opens ports in the nozzle to dump pressure and extinguish it. The thing you can't do is reignite them.

Unless you're specifically talking Kerbal, in which case yeah Solid rockets will burn until they're out of fuel

>>64212420
According to Militarnyi, citing the Telegram channel Dossier Spy

mind you the dossier spy channel was the one that started the rumors of the 14 shot down su 34s back when aviidka fell and the 5 a 50s
so take it with a huge grain of uranium

>>64216238
I was talking generally, haven't played kerbal in a while. That's cool though, I always wondered how they'd work around a fixed delta V with ICBMs when the actual distance to a possible target isn't known.

>>64213123
>>64213959
Lol cope
There is no way that penis is feminine

>>64216238
You can stop and then reignite SRBs, you can also kinda stage them internally. It's just a matter of design.
The reason we prefer liquid is the accuracy we can get with it, but that doesn't mean you cant hypothetically get something similar with a solid fuel.

>>64213959
It's absolutely not a woman. In the video you can the see full benis (balls and penis). Dude absolutely fucked some tranny butt.

>>64216272
>we prefer liquid
Every US ICBM, and SLBM, since Titan II has used solid fuel. So "we" do not.

>>64213959
>Cuz it's a woman
There are more images. I haven't seen all of it and initially had my doubts, but that pretty dude has a very square man-ass when on all fours.

>>64216282
Liquid is better in all aspects except for storage and launch prep time. Scientists and engineers want liquid, military brass wants solid.

>>64216297
>storage and launch prep time
So two of the three most important things for ballistic missiles. Good job confirming my point.

>>64216305
you suck at precise language and the other anon is the literal type of autistic, let's see if you two can figure out where you're getting hung up with that protip.

>>64216274
>some tranny butt
I mean, in all likelihood it's just a crossdressing twink but I suppose we can't rule it out

>>64216326
>Not an argument
Here (you) go

>>64216346
I suppose I was being overly optimistic. let me spoonfeed you then. the literal autist anon was most recently engaged in a purely rocket physics context. (You) decided to point up a distinction that was not contextually relevant even if it were accurate in a pedantic way. the language (You) used did not include the additional context of "what do you mean by we- the military prefers solids." this caused literal autist anon to ??? since widespread industrial and aerospace applications do trend towards liquid fuels. you see?

>>64216333
i don't understand the crossdressing meme
this is just a male ass, yeah, it's androgenous, still doesn't have the attractive curves of a female ass.

did all the retards that jerk it to shit like this just psyop themselves into enjoying faggot shit?
i've had these people post extensive libraries of boypussy at me in an effort to convince me it's totally the femininity drawing them in and none of them actually emulated the curves or facial features of a female that activates my almonds.

>>64216394
>Shit that's irrelevant because we're on /k/ WEAPONS
Cool story retard

>>64213981
>why would someone want a higher ISP, relightable and throttleable engine in an application where having these traits is more important than being stored long-term
???
nasa is not going to be using it's lifting rockets as ICBM's, anon.

>>64216425
It's escalation. Start with vanilla, than group sex and before they know it onto trannies and crossdressers. The sites like to mix in stuff with more basic fare.

>>64216430
i'm another anon who made >>64216447, you might have a bit of context-blindness, you asked why anyone would prefer liquid while you were specifically talking about the application where liquid is (especially nowadays) highly favoured over solids
>waaaah but /k/ is a military board
shouldn't have brought up KSP then dipshit.

even then, i'll answer the question of why anyone would use a liquid 1st or later stage on an ICBM
1st stage is something you do when you're the USSR during the cold war or a fledgeling shithole dictatorship trying to build threatening missiles, your solid rocket motor chemistry is too shitty and liquid is the only thing available to you with enough ISP to give you the needed range.
in the case of 2nd or 3rd stages, it tends to be because of the better throttleability and higher precision you can generally achieve, especially with smaller liquid fueled rocket engines.

>>64216425
Not all twink asses are created equally but at the end of the day fucking a dude no matter the window dressing is gay and it's a fetish like any other.
The answer as to why it's popular is that a good amount of people are more gay than they'd like to admit.
Funnily enough, the reverse is true of a good amount of gays.

If it doesn't do anything for you you're probably just very straight

>>64212407 (OP)
Did they blow it up today?

>>64216455
i started with vanilla and immediately moved on to monogamous monstergirl stuff and also tentacle rape, so idk.
i've traversed the depths of degeneracy but(t) fucking another dude has never seemed appealing to me, no matter how hard artists try to draw them as girls, real life "traps" seem even more pathetic by comparison.

What the fuck is this thread devolving into

>>64216394
I take exception you literally calling me a literal autist when it is the other anon who had such a heated reaction to my "Eggheads like liquid fuel; jarheads like solid fuel." Clearly my very neutral statement triggered him somehow.

>>64216518
meta fetish discussion, apparently.
just go with the flow, man. it's not like there's anything useful to add to this thread's actual topic at the moment.

>>64216479
>Words words words
Imagine getting this mad that your third world shithole can't build modern ICBMs

>>64216282
>Uh ACKCHUALLY we use SRBs as ballistic missiles
Do you want a fucking medal retard, I implied the reason we prefer liquid for the reasons stated in the before posts. Are you autistic.
We prefer liquid for anything that needs to maneuver in space to an orbit that matters, you can maneuver end impact point just by aiming an SRB even as it fired out, you can't do that when the end point is an orbit you're trying to reach.

>>64216543
>What is Minuteman
Something your retard thirdworld country can't build LMAO

>>64216543
>Are you autistic
Clearly he is. Apologize to me.

>>64216541
>words words words
yeah, this is an imageboard, did you forget the premise of this website?
>noooo you can't use words and have conversations, you're being too pushy!
calm down kiddo, it's only a conversation.
>Imagine getting this mad that your third world shithole can't build modern ICBMs
???????????????????????????????
what?

>>64216564
Not him; you know not replying is an option right?
You don't have to shit out your cope all over the thread anon, you can take a break and go to the actual shitter
>inb4 "I'm not coping"
yeah you are.

>>64216554
Trident is also a triple SRB. You are retarded, you don't seem to understand the point. If you don't need to regulate your thrust then of course you don't need liquid, but the discussion was why we use liquid rather than relightable SRBs.

We still use "relightable" duel burn SRBs in long range antiair missiles to extend the high energy range.
>>64216557
Why

>>64216571
i don't even know who you are exactly.
what am i coping about? what statement did i make that was supposed to cover for my country's inferior ICBM's?

>>64216602
>Why
Because clearly the other anon is autistic and not me >>64216519

>>64213095
another based and tradcon warrior of the muscovite race

>>64213123
complete with a feminine penis no less

>>64212420
Pure fiction from the dosye_shpiona psyop telegram that pretends to be Russian.

>>64216333
I laugh how even all of the vatniks in the frames are staring at the crust buster bait

>>64216254
Both https://t.me/dosye_shpiona and https://t.me/severnnyi are telegram channels that pretend to be Russian. Very high chance for news to be fake or exaggerated if it's sourced from them.

>>64213678
Most Russian missiles hit factories and production plants. It's just that most people on twitter won't post battle damage assessments of Ukrainian targets and only civilian casualties get widely shared.

>>64213625
It was a pretty hard impact, pilot flared way too late and probably came in too fast from the looks of it. Why would they land in these conditions? What's the equipment for IFR landings like in those aircraft?

>>64217070
>>64217114
>>64217147
Man russian aviation and missile forces must be absolute dogshit if they can't knock out Ukraine's military production capabilities after three years of bombardment.

>>64217212
>Man russian aviation and missile forces must be absolute dogshit

This is almost too easy

>>64213625
There's a docco just come out celebrating this guys life if you happen to be interested, its called 'But Also John Clarke"

>>64212490
Dumb ESL

>>64212407 (OP)
They lack engine replacements, which is the real long-term killer.

>>64217673
>shows irrelevant image not relevant to discussion because it's literally in black and white
????
this is 2025

>>64213109
I though aircraft were designed to take lighting hits no? Or is this just Soviet genius at work

>>64212943
I like how the rear fuselage ends up landing on the front half in the end. Just adding insult to injury

>>64217673
>We wuz kangs and shiet

>>64216425
>did all the retards that jerk it to shit like this just psyop themselves into enjoying faggot shit?
I mean, the biggest "homo go home"-posters tends to get exposted while knee-deep in boibussy, so you might be onto something

/k/ is unironically a wrong place to do that

>>64213109
not really, that one is just god making his opinions known

>all the zigger seethe itt
jeez did another refinery blow up, they have been really uppity today

>>64217070
>We managed to hit some real targets so stop caring about our warcrimes!
mmmkay

Looks like it has been a bad week for BUK with losing a couple of them which causes problems for their air dominance. Overall their optempo seems unrealistic in the long run