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Anonymous No.64213253 >>64213271 >>64213296 >>64213377 >>64213642 >>64213764 >>64213907 >>64213911 >>64214587 >>64215415 >>64215850 >>64215915
Why are they so shit at warfare?
Anonymous No.64213271 >>64214806
>>64213253 (OP)
>shit
skin
Anonymous No.64213296
>>64213253 (OP)
They aren't unique among third world countries in that regard.
Anonymous No.64213302 >>64213320 >>64213321 >>64213633 >>64213916
This region seems to have struggled since ancient Persian times to integrate its ethnic minorities, and even the strong framework of Islam is not enough.
Anonymous No.64213320 >>64213916
>>64213302
Islam is the reason why the middle east was plunged into the dark ages until the early 2000s. Also Israel being stupid and not bending the knee to Rome also was a big factor.
Anonymous No.64213321 >>64215547
>>64213302
islam is the main problem
Anonymous No.64213377
>>64213253 (OP)
inbreeding and islam
Anonymous No.64213633
>>64213302
The problem there is that Islam is ultimately an Arabic religion, using their language and cultural norms. If an ethnic minority doesn't want to 100% play ball with that, they're in trouble.
Anonymous No.64213642
>>64213253 (OP)

> Why are they so shit at warfare?

Same reason they are shit at everything: their culture.
Anonymous No.64213764 >>64214726
>>64213253 (OP)
Arab militaries operate like the worst stereotype of Medieval Knights and Peasants.

Arab officers often buy their commission or a through blood relation. They are arrogant and stubborn.

Arab soldiers are not encouraged to further learn or train. They are lazy and cowardly

Arabs, Slavs and Latinos culture only allows the most aggressive and violent to be leaders to be followed.
Anonymous No.64213907 >>64215792
>>64213253 (OP)
they sure are, that's why the us won against the taliban after all
Anonymous No.64213911
>>64213253 (OP)
Qatar especially, they have all these modern toys but do so poorly in exercises
Anonymous No.64213916 >>64214057
>>64213302
>>64213320
that is definitively it anons hekking poggerinos in the chat for our god hallucinating president goreg W bush where W stants for WIN
Anonymous No.64214057
>>64213916
>that is definitively it anons hekking poggerinos in the chat for our god hallucinating president goreg W bush where W stants for WIN
Anonymous No.64214182
A FUCKING TREE
Anonymous No.64214587
>>64213253 (OP)
Same reason why African militaries are so weak and can have warlords rule half of a country with 300 guys and AKs.
>society is based around tribes and has been as far back as you can look
>these tribes hates eachothers guts or at the very best dislike eachother
>the most powerful tribe within a nation takes power through military force
>in order to stay in power, this tribe trains and arms its own members to form a"royal guard" whose sole purpose is to protect the ruling tribes claim to power
>due to the hundreds of different tribes spanning a nation the ruling tribe is almost always a tiny minority
>due to being a minority there isn't enough fighting age men available to train to create a fully functional military, just enough to protect the ruling tribe
>as no military can be formed they can't amass enough manpower to invade neighbouring nations even though they have no defenses
>this enormous power vacuum outside the major cities allow warlords and gangs to take over hundreds of square kms
>when a nation actually wants to invade someone they are going to have to conscript other tribes who are usually given minimal training as to be able to somehwat perform but not be able to stage a coup
>the low level of training of these conscripts make them completely inept at combat but mainly at sezing and maintaining initiative
>since they can never seize initiative on the lower ranks which is what wins wars in the end with officers only coordinating these lower ranks, their military structure becomes extremely top heavy
>high-ranking officers now have to use threat of force to get the conscripts to do anything, making the divide between thwm even bigger than it previously was due to tribal reasons
>due to this these conscripts have no morale to fight and desert en masse at the first opportunity presented to them
>even if they end up winning the war there are now hundreds of trained soldiers who hates the ruling elite
>revoluton / coup
>repeat
Anonymous No.64214726 >>64215052 >>64215385
>>64213764
>Arab soldiers are not encouraged to further learn or train.
It's worse than that. There is a strong incentive NOT to train, because if you know something that the other guys don't know, that is your ticket to getting ahead. Learning is actively discouraged

https://www.meforum.org/middle-east-quarterly/why-arabs-lose-wars
Anonymous No.64214806
>>64213271
fibbypibby
Anonymous No.64215052
>>64214726
Every thirdie nation is like this and every fucking thirdie is also proud of it for some reason
Anonymous No.64215385
>>64214726
This is how the US military or at least the USAF used to be. You had a guy that knew everything about a system and you'd have to wait for him to get something done.
If you had to be there he would work in a convoluted manner, throw in more shit that didn't apply than did and not let you see the most important part. Anything to make sure he stayed the expert.
Anonymous No.64215415
>>64213253 (OP)
Too busy raping children because their pedophile prophet (piss be upon him) did the same
Anonymous No.64215547 >>64215606
>>64213321
LOL

https://youtu.be/Ygi7KuSazn4?si=CnhPf1hNATGNXe0P
Anonymous No.64215606
>>64215547
Saladin existed before Hanbalis and Salafism became the order of the day
His patronage of the Sufis would get him killed by Al-Qaeda today and enough people back in the day tried it too
Anonymous No.64215792
>>64213907
Notorious Arabs, those Taliban.
Anonymous No.64215850
>>64213253 (OP)
Arab "culture" is antithetical to modern warfare. That is why they perform so poorly in all facets of conflict.

First and foremost, fifty generations of inbreeding have made them clinically retarded, with IQs ranging from the low 70s to the mid 80s. Their reflexes, eyesight, height, muscular mass and general health are also subpar, with an alarming quantity of birth defects, miscarriages and high infant mortality.

Second, they never industrialized and lack the plethora of various blue collar workers which make the backbone of a procurement chain that is self-sustaining. Their maintenance also suffers as a result of lacking the technical skills that come from having a semi-educated middle class of blue collar workers.

Third, loyalty is valued over competence. Arab societies are top down, caste based, patriarchal tribes, and I do mean tribes in every sense of the word. There is no notion of a national identity whatsoever. The lines on the map mean nothing, because Arab countries are, in every sense of the word, made up. Trust extends only to the next of kin and within the tribe, meaning that complex and most importantly, dependable command and control structures are impossible to implement.

Fourth, they are a face-saving society. All they do is highly choreographed and institutionalized to maintain their standing in their caste and tribe.

Fifth, they lack any form of personal initiative whatsoever. In the Arab world personal initiative is seen as dangerous and covetous behavior, free thinking is quashed and operational freedom is nonexistent. Moreover, because they are a face-saving society, when faced with a lack of direct orders, they'll opt to do nothing, because that's seen as more socially acceptable than to showcase personal initiative and risk upsetting the status quo or worse, failing and having to shoulder the blame.

All in all, the fact they can even conceptualize asymmetric warfare is nothing short of a miracle.
Anonymous No.64215915
>>64213253 (OP)
heres a hint, it aint just warfare theyre shit at