Thread 64220119

> USS Stewart was a Clemson-class destroyer in the United States Navy during World War II
>Scuttled in port at Surabaya, Java, she was later raised by the Japanese and commissioned as Patrol Boat No. 102.
>She came back under American control in 1945

A trio of captured soviet panther tanks

>>64220119 (OP)
>clempus

>>64220337
>LSPOO

>>64220352
The Italians always built the most /aesthetic/ ships

A burger marine clears a Fallujah house with a PPSH he took off an insurgent

Crewmen of USS Iowa take possession of the formerly Japanese battleship Nagato.

>>64220941
Sailing this thing back across the pacific must have been a wild exprience

>>64220953
It never got all the way across.

L3/35 Italian tank found by American soldiers in Iraq.

>>64220119 (OP)
>Park a warship and walk away for a minute
>Japs run up and bolt their flower bow ornament on, slap 25mm guns all over the deck, and trunk the funnels

>>64221094
Can't have shit in the pacific

>>64221094
Its worse than that

>Stewart is badly damaged and nearly sinks fighting the japs off Java
>She is drydocked for repairs
>Civilian brownoid yard crew is supposed to put her on keelblocks
>The retards fuck it up and she falls on her side as the drydock is drained
>Japs are on the island and closing in fast
>US Navy crew flees and leaves the SEAmonkeys with some explosives to destroy her
>They fuck it up and only partly suceed
>The Japs fix the emtire drydock and get a free WW1 era DD out of brown incompetence
>She later helps to sink an American submarine with the loss of all hands

>>64221163
Very interesting story though. Never heard of it. Now I kind of want to build a model of her, or at least see her in a game. Too bad there's no examples of four stalker DDs left besides wrecks.

>>64220119 (OP)
Here's an advanced one: a Chinook that was sold to (pre-revolution) Iran, captured by the Iraqis during the Iran-Iraq war, and then destroyed by US forces in the invasion of Iraq.

>>64221094
Actually destroyers did not have the bow flower as far as i know.
anyway, have a row of former american Stuart tanks in the emperors service.

Destroyer ZG3, also known as Hermes, formerly known as Vasilefs Georgios, Greek destroyer captured during the invasion of Greece and used by the German Navy. it was the only destroyer used by the Krauts in the Mediterranean (technically later they caputred a few french and italian ones, but the classed those as torpedo boats).

Mostly user for convoy escorts until it was damaged by an airstrike and scuttled in low waters

German captured T-34 in original captured condition and after German modifications
1/2

>>64222009
It also had bow stripes, like italian destroyers

2/2

Two Soviet T-70 and a French Hotchkiss H-35 in German service.

Cool thread

"Cuckoo", captured panther in the service of the 4th Coldstream Guards.

Polish TKS tankettes used by Germans

captured Panther used by Polish Home Army

>>64225049
Why didn't they use an anchor as marking?

>>64225142
It had anchor on the front, but i can't find any good photos with it

>>64221980

Where'd the Japs get ahold of a bunch of Stuarts?

A boarding party from USS Pillsbury prepares captured German submarine U-505 for towing. U-505 can today be found at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago.

French Canon de 155 mm GPF in German service.

Captured Soviet 152 mm howitzer-gun M1937 (ML-20) as part of the Atlantic Wall defences.

>>64221054
>>64221060
hey I remember that. Pretty funny to see the sandpeople riding around in old Italian tankettes. I had the chance of seeing one myself and I cant fathom how these guys would sit inside one of em in the afghan heat. How they even got em to start is something I wonder

>>64225280
>soviet guns
>soviet crews

Italian AB 41 armored cars in German service.

>>64225255
I wanna visit this thing
>>64225216
>US Army sends 100 of them to the Philippines just before the Japanese invade
>MacArthur in all of his tactical brilliance stores most of his tank fuel in one big ass fuel depot
>The Japanese know this and immediately blow it the fuck up
>Also leaves all of his planes on the ground when jap bombers show up so no air support
>100 American tanks with no fuel, no fighter cover, and little ammo
>congratulationsyouplayedyourself.gif
>They’re nothing more than paperweights when the IJA gets there

I’m convinced that the Philippines as a whole could have been held and that MacArthur was just a fucking idiot.

>>64225289
Kek, i guess they're just used to the heat. I would pull the AC system off some old car and try to finagle it in there

>>64222074
What’s the story with these?

>>64225417
The Japanese should have reverse engineered these things desu.

French AMR 35 light tank converted into a mortar carrier by the Germans.

>>64225361
probably captured in the Philippines

>>64225361

https://j-aircraft.com/captured/capturedby/p40warhawk/captured_p40.htm

>>64225426
They had the designs but not materials and fuel

>>64225255
I have a feeling it's haunted simply because the captain blew his head off during severe depth charging.

>>64225339
It was cool, can recommend the entire museum. You can even get to walk through the U-boat

>>64225921
btw I know that U-505 is a type IX submarine but I wonder if any type VIIC´s survived the war to become museums, or do we just have to cope with Das Boot movie set they built in Germany?

>>64225939
Anon.. your U-995?

>>64226354
Cool! I knew there was one VIIC around but I didnt know it was enterable. Yes, im a dumbass.
Staying on topic, captured T-34´s in Finnish service after war in 1947. Im not sure if these are Finnish captured ones or the ones that were bought from Germany when they captured them.

>>64226557
1941s were all Finnish captures
The one at the forefront is also likely a Finnish capture since it doesn't seem to have a German cupola

>>64226557
It is a surprisingly on topic boat, after surrendering to the British in 1945 U-995 was transferred to the Norwegian navy in 1948 and served together with U-926 and U-1202, also Type VIIC ships, until 1965.

There is even an existing Type XXI in Hamburg, the U-2540 Wilhelm Bauer. That one was scuttled in 1945, 12 years later the Germans raised it and repurposed it into a training ship and testbed for the 206 class.

Say a Fletcher class destroyer was sunk scuttled in shallow water and was about 20ft underwater with two 10ft holes one amidship just above the keel and one just along the bow. How much money would it cost to raise and repair the ship. Would it even be worth doing when at the time it cost about ~3million USD?

>>64226697
If you US, i guess yes.I remember that after pearl harbour, the refloated2 blown up destroyers, cut them in half (one had blown up stern, other destroyed bow) stiched them together and send to US for repair and refit.

>>64226697
If you US, i guess yes.
I remember that after Pearl Harbour, they refloated 2 blown up destroyers, cut them in half (one had blown up stern, other destroyed bow) stitch them together and send to US for repair and refit.

very nice thread OP

>>64227527
Ty

>>64226741
They got the idea from HMS Zubian.

>>64220352
>when you realize that a modernized Italian WW1 dreadnought was the best battleship Russia ever had

>>64229258
its even funnier if you consider there were two (mostly) serviceable Littorios up for grabs but the UK/US kept those for themselves
only to scrap them immediately after signing the war prize/reparations treaty

>>64229264
My schizo theory is that Italy had agreed with UK and US under the table to not claim their war prizes since the beginning and have them scrapped in Italy
>USSR does not get their hands on modern battleship tech
>Italy avoids the shame of having other countries seize their capital ships
And (almost) everyone's happy.

7.5 cm Pak 97/38, German AT-gun created by mounting a French Canon de 75 modèle 1897 on the carriage of a 5 cm Pak 38.

Stugs in Norwegian service after WW2.

>>64229739
>fighting off bolshevik tanks with a gun that might have turned Onkel Hans into a fine mist at Verdun

Captured German 20mm Flak 38's mounted on trucks by the Soviets.

>>64226647
the last surviving Type XXI is in Bremerhaven
There are some burried below a parking lot in Hamburg

>>64230540

Isn't the Admiral Scheer also buried under a parking lot in Kiel?

>>64230540
Oh bugger you're right, it was constructed in Hamburg by B&V, I don't know how I managed to get that mixed up.

>>64229272
No theories needed. Neither the RN or USN were ever going to take captured ships into the fleet because such ships are a giant pain in the ass as they have no reliable documentation about anything and no spare parts, gun calibers don't line up, and all the other details that are different. Better to just scrap the things. The Soviets took such ships because they didn't know better and didn't have existing design and supply anyway.

Why did a country lacking the experience and resources to build battleships lay down four Sovietsky Soyuz-class ships?

>>64232165
same reason they tried building the Palace of the Soviets

>>64232173
>worst building idea of all time
>best pool ever made
The secret to communism is divining what your unsuccessful attempts will result in and work from there.

>>64221094
DD-224 — the one that fought for both teams

1920 Clemson “four-stacker” joins the Asiatic Fleet, does China Station stuff for years
Japan kicks off the island-hopping party (not the fun kind)
1942: gets mauled in the Bali/Badung Strait mess, limps into Surabaya
docks crew up the blocks; Stewart falls off the drydock like a drunk on a barstool, bends shafts, gets demo-charged and abandoned
US strikes her from the list, assumes she’s toast
surprise.jpg — IJN raises her, slaps a trunked funnel on, rebrands as Patrol Boat No. 102
spends ’43–’45 escorting for the Japanese Southwest Area Fleet, takes bomb damage, ends up laid-up near Kure
1945: Americans roll in, point at the paint job, go “hey, that’s ours”
ceremonially recommissioned as DD-224, nicknamed “RAMP-224” (Recovered Allied Military Personnel)
towed home when her engines nope out near Guam
1946: used as a rocket & guns target off California; shrugs off 18 rockets and a mountain of .50 cal before a PC boat finishes her at 300 yards like Old Yeller with 3-inch guns
absolute gremlin energy

plot twist epilogue: in 2024 they actually found the wreck, remarkably intact ~3,500 ft down off San Francisco
ghost ship’s still vibing

Nobody really talks about the Pueblo anymore

>>64232209
I keel...

List of equipment South Africans captured on one of their raids into Angola. As they were starved by sanctions, the South Africans were able to sustain a significant portion of their war effort off captured gear.

>>64225339
What??? Don't you think the 0.46% of the Philippines' defense budget that MacArthur contractually received as an annual bonus on top of his two other government salaries was money well spent?

The ex-German dreadnought battleship USS Ostfriesland.

USS Prinz Eugen.

>>64220119 (OP)
A captured Czech gun mounted on a captured French tank. Typical Wehrmacht shenanigans.

>>64232931
And a captured French gun on a captured Russian tank. Classic Wehrmacht.

>>64232931
And a captured French gun on a captured Russian tank. Classic Wehrmacht.

>>64232951
And of course, a captured Russian gun on a captured Czech tank. Oh, Wehrmacht...

>>64232931
>>64232951
>>64232954
Which leads to my favorite German joke:
>Wer macht hier die Logistik?

>>64221163
>>US Navy crew flees and leaves the SEAmonkeys with some explosives to destroy her
>>They fuck it up and only partly succeed
In their defense, the USN has a centuries-long tradition of warships built like slasher villains.

>>64230866
The remaining parts of it, yes. There are also three destroyers (two Akizukis and a smaller one) buried in a Japanese harbor, with the smaller one partially visible.

Finnish-captured ex-Russian T28 going to visit the homeland.

>>64230155
Angles & Thickness is fascinating. I wonder if there's a record of what they had for testing and when/against what.

>>64232384
o7 CARLOS

>>64220119 (OP)
>Patrol Boat No. 102.
Why did they give it a JAV code instead of a proper name?

Italian destoryer Premuda, formerly the Yugoslav Dubrovnik. British built destroyer leader, captured in 1941 alongside two smaller Beograd class destroyers. mostly used for escort missions. captured by the Germs in 43, scuttled in 45

>>64236805
never realized how big hellcats were

>>64236873
they are pretty large, not as big as P-47s but chunky
slightly smaller than F4U Corsair

>>64236450
More like Yamudda

>>64236873
They have the same engine as the P-47, it's gotta be a chonker

>>64238665
>same engine as the P-47
No.
it's more relatable to say the F6F has the 'same engine' as the F4U Corsair
But the Thunderbolt has a totally different and much larger/heavier/estensive turbosupercharged installation and plumbing for its powerplant (compared to the two Navy fighters)
Even though yes, all 3 planes have essentially the same R-2800 engine
P-47D has empty weight of 10,000 lb, mtow 17,000
F4U and F6F roughly similar empty 9,200 lb, mtow ~15,000

>>64238703
>estensive
*extensive

Here's an obscure one
>French rigid airship "Dixmude"
>Built by as L72, X-Class Zeppelin, for the German Navy (hull number LZ-114), but finished after the armistice/before Versailles
>Given over to the French Navy as part of war reparations in 1920
>In 1923 exploded with the loss of all hands during a thunderstorm over the Med during a long distance endurance test

Santa Anna's leg

>>64238733
Zep autist here, and it's even more retarded than that. The Luftschiffbau Zeppelin was looking to sell her to the US Army at a rock bottom price due to Germany's economy imploding post-war (or more specifically, Billy Mitchell was aggressively demanding it because 'the navy's going to get one, so why shouldn't we?! He also had this whole retarded plan to bring her back through Asia to America, y'know, with absolutely no infrastructure in place to do so) So, the French swoop in and claim her as reparations, cucking Mitchell and the US, but she'd been languishing in her anchorage long enough after the gas bags, which the Germans made of goldbeater's skin from cow intestines, had begun to rot from lack of care. The French, of course, are absolutely not going to order new gas bags from the Germans. So, instead, they contract out to a French blimp company that has absolutely no experience in rigid airships to give it their best shot. Their best shot is pretty terrible due to having no idea what they're supposed to be doing. Despite this, the bags hold well enough to let her fly, but they leak horribly pretty much constantly, so when she tries to brave a storm, too much leaked hydrogen had probably built up in her envelope, with the expected result following. Pretty sure the sauce is one of the early chapters in 'Up Ship!' but I've read a lotta damn books on it so might be misremembering, could also be 'SNAFU!' from VADM Rosendahl.

>>64221163
What's worse it was Harder she sank, one of the most decorated Subs in the pacific.

>>64233040
>The remaining parts of it, yes.

According to German sources, around 70% of the ship is entombed in concrete, including all of the main guns and superstructure.

>>64221916

I've got a sillier example.

>Chieftain Mk 5/P tanks delivered to Iran in the 1970s
>Over 100 of them are captured by Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war
>Iraq then operated them including buying simulators and getting upgrade packages from Britain
>In 1988 Saddam gifts 90 ex-Iranian chieftains to Jordan (who already operated their own Khalid variant chieftains)
>This gift seemingly pays off since Jordan doesn't take part in the gulf war despite other British aligned Arab states throwing down with Iraq (for example the Strait of Hormuz's biggest twink enthusiast send the Omani 23rd Desert Infantry Brigade which took part in the Liberation of Kuwait)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgLtcmlok_8

Arab warfare is always entertaining.

>>64239109

fuck ignore the image that's clearly not a chieftain I wasn't paying attention as there are very few photos of Iraqi Chieftains.

>>64236792
Cool pic

>>64232711
lol

>>64220464
You know that dude had been playing CoD WaW in the FOB and finally got a real one.

>>64230392
One of my friends was a humv gunner in Iraq, he had an AK and and two RPDs hung from the. 50 cal turret. He said a lot of the .50/Mk19 gunners had a few extra weapons, since (at the time) they had to get permission to engage with the turret weapons, but captured weapons were considered small arms and they didn't have to wait to shoot back. He said he shot his RPDs more than he ever did the .50 cal.