Thread 64222314

>try to buy a gun for first time
>FFL (Federal firearms license)
>background checks

WTF is all this bullshit? I just want to buy a gun, ammo for it, and a safe for it.

Why do I have to go though all this? I'm from Pennsylvania, can anyone help me out?

>>64222314 (OP)
have you tried going to a gun store in person

>>64222314 (OP)
why do you need an ffl. just go to a store

>>64222318
If I do, will I have to do a background check? What about this "FFL" shit? Can I give guns to other people? What are the rules? I don't know any of this shit. I also need to store it safe, I got a young brother living with me who is a former army vet who tried to kill himself (got PTSD bad from Afghanistan)

>>64222314 (OP)
You don’t have to, idk how you even got here but you are a certified retard so I’m glad you were filtered from buying a gun.

>>64222336
>I’m glad you were filtered from buying a gun.
I'm still buying a gun.

Some people aren't meant to own guns and you seem like that type.
Fucking king retard, get filtered.

>>64222342
Hope you got the mental capacity to fill out a form 4473

>>64222334
Yeah if you buy a gun from a FFL then you have to do a background check. Idk about your gay little state when it comes to private sales. You can gift guns but if you buy a gun to gift to someone who cannot pass a background check you just committed a straw purchase which is a felony. How about you try using Google or watching a YouTube video or maybe even talk to ChatGPT. No you cannot just buy a gun online and have it shipped to you. You need to have it sent to a FFL who will then transfer it to you and do a background check.

>>64222334
Yes, if you buy a gun from an FFL, they have to run a background check on you.

>>64222342
I doubt you can because you are so concerned about the background check, and I doubt you have the mental capacity to fill out the form 4473 when you go to buy the gun.

>>64222318
>>64222328
>>64222336
Not OP, but in my state, most gun stores have you do your own background check on some shitty computer they keep around for the purpose.
EVERY FUCKING TIME I do a background check via computer, I get an arbitrary hold. Whenever a shop actually uses the old paperwork method, I always walk out the door with what I bought.
Fuck Minnesota, fuck every single politician here, and fuck niggers for causing this shit in the first place

>>64222314 (OP)
I just submitted a tip to FBI seems like you are gonna do something stupid

>>64222349
> Idk about your gay little state when it comes to private sales.
Idk myself compared to other states, but I have seen some gun shows around posted. I live in southeastern PA, outside of Philly.

>someone who cannot pass a background check you just committed a straw purchase which is a felony.
How would I be able to tell? would they have to get a background check?

>No you cannot just buy a gun online and have it shipped to you. You need to have it sent to a FFL who will then transfer it to you and do a background check.
I'm scared they will put me in a registry if they do that. I'm scared of any background check.

>>64222366
Fictitious and homosexual

>>64222369
If you exist, you're already on a registry. Likely multiple at this point.
Also really sounds like you're not firing on all cylinders. I imagine your cornbread isn't done in the middle?

>In essence, Pennsylvania does not require background checks for all private firearm sales—only for handguns (and short-barreled variants). Long guns remain exempt under current law.

WTF is this shit?

OP is a criminal and/or retard

>>64222369
Then you don’t get to own a gun. Gun shows are complete glow ops for the past 15-20 years. Look up articles online the ATF goes there undercover and logs everyone’s license plates and shit.

>>64222387
>you're already on a registry
I know I'm on a registry senpai. I'm a diagnosed autist since elementary school and on SSRIs. Do you understand why now I'm concerned about gun access and why I don't want alot of background checks?

>>64222393
It’s obviously both look at how little IQ his posts showcase.

>>64222395
>license plates
So I should take uber and cover my face?

>>64222393
I'm not a criminal, but being a criminal doesn't mean you can't own a gun.

>>64222395
>He's walking out of the gun show, and appears to be carrying an 1886 Kropatschek rifle, mark him down Jeff
Be not afraid

>>64222413
You think an Uber is gonna let you in their car with a gun?

wow funny I've bought many firearms, NFA stuff, even done private sales in a state where it's not technically allowed, and yet the MIB don't rape me when I finish filling out a 4473 at a store.
I suspect OP has a bit of the ol' gangstalking schizo stuff going on in the noggin.
Like dude just walk into the store and buy something you tard

>>64222395
>logs everyone’s license plates
Well I usually only ever put the car in my name before selling it

>I know I'm on a registry senpai. I'm a diagnosed autist since elementary school and on SSRIs. Do you understand why now I'm concerned about gun access and why I don't want alot of background checks?

*snap* yep that's going in my cringe compilation

>>64222427
>I suspect OP has a bit of the ol' gangstalking schizo stuff going on in the noggin.

I feel like the government at any time could come in and confiscate my gun. I'm really scared and I don't trust anyone. FFLs and backgrounds feels like a FBI honey trap. Look at medical marijuana registry, they ban them from guns.

>Like dude just walk into the store and buy something you tard

Do they record with cameras? Are they FFLs? Are they doing background checks? If so, they are feds.

>>64222443
fuck it, just ask your neighbor if he'll sell you a gun

Was Armslist taken down?

>>64222443
welp yep you're a certified grade-A schizo.
Please check yourself in to an institution.

>>64222458
Speaking of which, any new Silk Roads pop up?

>>64222443
>FFLs and backgrounds feels like a FBI honey trap.
OH WOWWWW A BACKGROUND CHECK DOING A... CHECK OF SOMEONE'S BACKGROUND TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT A SCHIZOPHRENIC RETARD WHO SHOULDN'T OWN A GUN OR ALLOW TO EXIST AMONG SANE PEOPLE?! I NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT!

it's almost like the concept behind it is working for once. our ill OP friend here is scared that he'll be denied. wowzers

>>64222443
>medical marijuana registry, they ban them from guns.
Getting weed from a doctor is between you and the state in which you reside, it is not federal

>>64222314 (OP)
Fuck ya
mudda

guns are dangerous OP be careful

>>64222473
Is the background check logged? As in is it kept, not destroyed after? Who is seeing the background? How do I know this isn't going to FBI? Where is the checks and balances? I can pass a background check, but there is serious concerns about it.

Even if the background check is held by the gun shop, I still won't trust it. How do I know I can trust them? They are operating under fed laws and protections.

You're all sick people.
I hope you all get cancer. Fuck youse all.
I put a curse upon you all.
Fuck ya
mudda

>>64222492
watch out there are gang stalkers all around you anon, the postman, the truck drivers, that guy that glanced at you at the stoplight - everyone! you need to take them all down ! get the biggest gun you can and show them who's boss!!

>>64222481
>Getting weed from a doctor is between you and the state in which you reside, it is not federal

I got a autism diagnosis while I was in elementary school and now I'm on RFK Jr.'s government registry. Think about that. Something in my elementary school when I had no say over, now I'm on a list for the rest of my life. That means the same for that. HIPPA won't protect you.

>>64222492
I think gun ownership isn't right for you, maybe you can be a knife guy instead

>>64222492
>Even if the background check is held by the gun shop, I still won't trust it. How do I know I can trust them? They are operating under fed laws and protections.

please crank down the schizo shit a tad and explain to the class what EXACTLY you are worried about? it's a background check for a fucking reason

>>64222505
>you need to take them all down ! get the biggest gun you can and show them who's boss!!
Careful, OP may take it seriously

>>64222513
>it's a background check for a fucking reason
are they destroyed afterwards? do we do a background check on who you voted for?

This is one of very rare occasions where I think someone should be denied guns, and OP is a perfect example

>>64222524
Why did you stop taking your lithium?

>>64222531
>Why did you stop taking your lithium?
I'm prescribed escitalopram and bupropion.

>>64222387
>I imagine your cornbread isn't done in the middle?
saving this for future use

>>64222524
you are confusing two things.
The actual form is just a piece of paper. FFLs must retain them indefinitely.
The data contained is in that form is constantly analyzed by a supercomputer called 'The Beast' and you can't get around that. You know those news reports of people who 'died suddenly'? that's actually US Postal Police goons kidnapping gun-owners who they don't like; they get shipped off to Breadfruit plantations in the Greenland caves

OP is probably afraid to join gift registries for weddings too

>>64222511
I think being a spoon guy would be more his speed

I really shouldn't harp on OP too much with bait posts. we're all under surveillance
all the time
by everyone
It's the truth, and it's worse than you can imagine.
But that doesn't mean they give a shit about you buying a gun. There are 470,000,000 guns in the US already.

AFT will have my data indefinitely.

>When an FFL closes, all its records — no matter how old — go to the ATF Out-of-Business Records Center.

>If the FBI needs that info, it asks ATF to run a firearms trace.

>ATF can search the out-of-business database without a court order, because Congress authorized it for criminal investigations.

>So, while the FBI itself still can’t browse freely, it can get the info without a subpoena by going through ATF in a valid investigation.

Do you really want the FBI to be able to browse this without a subpoena?

>>64222594
yes

>>64222594
you shouldn't give a shit, there are bigger fish to fry. Why do you care so much about the government having a record of your eye color and whether or not you checked 'no' to the box saying if you're a terrorist? like goddamn you're overthinking this schizOP. Buy your gun, then donate $100 to the EFF, and leave /k/ forever

>>64222589
>There are 470,000,000 guns in the US already.
It's not about the number of guns, it's about taking them away from minority groups who desperately need guns to protect themselves from state and paramilitary repression. (which has happened several times in US history btw)

>>64222314 (OP)
I feel like you are one of those types of people who fail filling out a form 4473, if you care that much about your privacy then maybe getting a gun is not an option, the FLL(LGS) will be a point of failure in case they ever get a leak

>>64222421
Just put it in a briefcase or bag of some kind and dress upper class, cab drivers never check what's in it

>>64222554
>they get shipped off to Breadfruit plantations in the Greenland caves
I heard rumors they get kidnaped to do labor work making GAP clothes in Guatemala?

>>64222541
Lexapro made me feel like I was going legit medically insane.

>>64222630
a sonic backpack would be more appropriate for OP, a briefcase would be conspicuous

>>64222413
>but being a criminal doesn't mean you can't own a gun.
if you have been convicted of a felony, it absolutely means that

>>64222666
>Lexapro made me feel like I was going legit medically insane.
I started taking because I quit my job without any reason or any replacement for it due to depression and was spiraling. It was the only way I could make it though 13 years of retail work.

>>64222677
Or have a domestic

>>64222680
Sweet mother of God why would you devote over a decade of your life to retail? The low wages and bullshit schedules are enough to make a sane person question living

>>64222693
>Sweet mother of God why would you devote over a decade of your life to retail?
Because I got some news for ya. All the steel-mills in PA, they are closed down. All those jobs are lone gone in PA. All the manual labor jobs are done by undocumented and if you are white middle class like me, you got two choices, retail or banking.

>>64222708
How in the hell is retail middle class? Retail is where you top out at maybe 18 an hour and that's it

>>64222708
>retail
>middle class
lmao go to school or learn a trade you retard retail is for kids, retards, and chicken washers

>>64222708
learn to code

>>64222713
Management hell. NTA but I was a general manager before becoming a support engineer

>>64222728
>lmao go to school or learn a trade you retard retail is for kids, retards, and chicken washers
I lost my job due to bankruptcy. I'm not a sales rep.

>>64222737
I have a severe doubt that any employer sees leadership material in OP

>>64222744
>I'm not a sales rep.
you're not much of anything apparently.
>>64222751
he's definitely no leader, but there's always a market for electricians, plumbers, etc. he's just too retarded to acquire a marketable skillset

>>64222751
>I have a severe doubt that any employer sees leadership material in OP
I was an assistant store manager before my job closed down. So you are wrong.

OP is an argument for gun control

OP confirmed one of the 80,000 per year filtered by BGCs.

>>64222755
>you're not much of anything apparently.
I'm gonna make it big in the company. In a few years I'll be in the top board of it. I just started a month ago and I will make it big.

>>64222758
How did you get to a position like that when you can't figure out how to buy a gun

>>64222765
lol
lmao

>>64222760
I would counter-argue that OP shows how quick we are to judge that people on heavy medication and social oddities are not deserved of personal protection.
The statistics do not support the idea that mentally unstable people are actually more violent than the general population. Should we legislate based on facts, or gut feelings? does op being icky mean no 2A?

>>64222765
>delusions of grandeur
Schizophrenic confirmed

>>64222767
I'm not surprised, assistant store manager is basically king of the losers

OK /k/, here is my PLAN

https://www.armslist.com

I found a private seller who can sell me a Ruger AR556. It will cost $1 k, but it's worth it. It's long gun private purchase so I don't have to do a background check or FFL. It's less an than hour from my house. What do you think?

>>64222772
He's not merely depressed, he clearly has something quite a lot more serious than that.
I briefly dated a gal who fell into psychosis like a week in, OP talks the exact same way

>>64222524
>do we do a background check on who you voted for?
You may be surprised to learn that this is in fact tracked in a government registry. I don't know if it's state or federal, but it exists.

>>64222780
I think you should drive to inpatient behavioral health at your nearest hospital and get on some antipsychotics

>>64222780
>What do you think?
I think you're a nut and probably shouldn't have a gun

>>64222780
I think you should do it

>>64222780
I think that I just reported your thread to both the FBI and the Commonwealth Bureau of Special Investigations.

>>64222780
>im worried about being tracked
>post specifics about how he’s going to circumnavigate background checks on a public, well monitored and archived website
>posts screencap from website that would allow feds to identify his location to within 1 hour of this armslist posting
You’re a retarded faggot who should not own a firearm. Your failure to grasp this basic logic shows that you’re going to accidentally kill someone who has more use to society.
I’d say build your own, but you’re obviously not smart enough to do so without killing yourself. Buy a slingshot or rubber band gun, that’s more your speed

Have you tried googling "how to buy a gun in Pennsylvania"?

>>64222314 (OP)
>its the schizophrenic /pol/troon anon who cannot into passing a background check
Gonna have to do the old-fashioned way of either hanging yourself or jumping in front of a moving train.
I'd recommend the latter. That way, your parents can use your pre troon phase for the pictures to your closed casket funeral.

This "thread" glows.

>>64222895
Is there a dude over there that fits the description?
>>64222906
Pic related

>>64222314 (OP)
You're retarded & mentally ill. I bet that you'll go to the ghetto to try to buy a gun, only to get robbed and sodomized. I hope you have a terrible day.

>>64222780
You know this site is crawling with glowies, right?

>>64222780
Horrible plan, seek help also armslist requires you to make an account so you are still going to be tracked on some list.

>>64222958
>You know this site is crawling with glowies, right?
God dam it, what about tor or the dark web?

>>64222372
he didn't even give us a screencap wih funny tabs

>>64222570
>>64222518
>Careful, OP may take it seriously

>>64223022
SPOON MAN COME TOGETHER WITH YOUR HANDS

>>64223038
kek

>>64222314 (OP)
Pay close attention anon. No debate, but if you have questions, ask.

1. Nowhere in the United States can you purchase a gun and have it shipped to you, not unless you are an FFL holder. Regular people do not get FFLs as you have to actually sell or manufacture firearms (and a certain amount of them each year) to keep one.

2. The only exception to point 1 is the Civilian Marksmanship Program, which if you jump through all the hoops you can have an overpriced, beat to shit M1 Garand shipped to your door.

3. You can purchase a longgun (rifle or shotgun) from a private individual in Penn. without a background check. Your state does require background checks and for the transfer to be conducted by an FFL holder if you buy a handgun privately.

4. If you buy from a gun store or FFL holder, a background check is mandatory. No discussion. It's Federal Law. Lying on it is a felony. They have multiple weirdly worded questions these days as well so read them carefully or you might get denied.

5. Your state has no laws on buying or possessing ammo. You can get it anywhere and have it shipped right to you.

6. To buy a gun at a gun store, odds are you will need two forms of ID, I do in Virginia. I advise you call a gun store and ask what you'll need to purchase a rifle and what you'll need to purchase a handgun as it's your first time.

7. DO NOT ask about skipping the background check. DO NOT ask about shady shit like having it sent to you or how else to get them. Ask dumb and shady ass questions is a good way to get visited by the feds.

8. Just don't be a stupid fucking autistic person and you'll be fine. Ft. I'm a stupid fucking autistic person who has purchased several firearms, it's not hard, but you'll need to get over the background check thing.

9. On that note, no retard do not hide your face or license plate, do not go and leave via uber. Stop being an idiot. If you act and look suspicious, at best they deny you. At worst they call the cops on you.

>>64223090
>overpriced, beat to shit M1 Garand shipped to your door.
I paid 1150 for a pristine M1, are you buying rack grades at gunshows?

>>64223097
Granted its been a few years since I last looked, but when I did they only had field grade and rack grade available via CMP. Everything above that was gone at the time so I was assuming they were drying up.

>>64222314 (OP)
You new to firearms or something?

>>64223090
>3. You can purchase a longgun (rifle or shotgun) from a private individual in Penn. without a background check. Your state does require background checks and for the transfer to be conducted by an FFL holder if you buy a handgun privately

Ok so this is the best way to go I think. Do I got to worry about anything? Just contact them? Best method to get it?

>>64223155
you're already on a list from making this thread and googling a bunch of shit about avoiding background checks, just go to the gun store like a normal person bro

>>64222473
I get this reasoning, i mean theres some real retards and psychos out there i probably dont want having guns.

But... SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!

>>64222531
We should have never stopped putting Lithium in 7Up and Cocaine in CocaCola.

>>64223155
Most states have gun classifieds like armslist or other sites where people list to sell or you can post looking to buy.
Just google something similar and you find a Pennsylvania one. a Penn anon might spoonfeed you and post a site to look at.
Otherwise the advise in that post is on point. Stop being autistic and doing/saying shady stuff about avoiding the check because you're a retard and cant do the simplest of things. make you best attempt to be normal. I guarantee if you had reached out to me, then started spouting the shit in this thread to me, I would pack up what I brought for you and walk away AND probably report you. Youve probably already been reported several times from this thread alone.

have fun

>>64223155
Can't wait for you to get pulled over and charged with a 6106 without realizing you were doing anything wrong!

I wonder how much of this thread is pic related and how much is just general retardation

>>64222387
>your cornbread isn't done in the middle
I'm saving that quote for all eternity, thank you anon

>>64223253
What's the difference?

>>64222926
>t.

>>64222492
>How do I know this isn't going to FBI?
It's the FBI doing the check dipshit. Along with 10 million other people every month.

>>64222395
> Gun shows are complete glow ops
They’re not. They’re just generally shit.

>>64222481
> it is not federal
Wrong.

>>64222314 (OP)
looks cheap af, drop a SQL bomb in there

>>64223201
Also, if the seller isn’t a complete idiot, he’s probably going to want to see a concealed carry permit.

>>64222926
All of /pol/ fits that description

>>64222780
Just make sure you present as male. People don't like selling guns to fags in dresses.

>>64223090
Can we get cmp 1911s yet?

OP You can just go ahead and lie on 4473 forms checks. I always just use ID's with old addresses. All they really have is my name

>>64224990
Yes, but they must go to an FFL , even a C&R doesnt count because they demand you have another background check once the pistol gets to you..... so it has to go to a dealer, so fucking retarded I swear. They claim its due to how congress wrote the law regarding the 1911s. A C&R holder cant run a background NICS check so it must go to a dealer....

Right now there is about a 4-5 month wait to get a CMP 1911 after you submit the necessary documents. They did make it easier as it is all done online now, instead of having to physically mail in some dumbass packet.

>>64222683
I've got a friend who had that expunged from his record. he's currently enjoying his legally bought glock43.

>>64225001
Yeah I'm not op, I'm fine doing a background check. I just wanted to know if they were available because I remember reading about them coming out a few years ago and wanted one but the first batch all got snatched up

>>64225001
Do you still have to belong to a gun club or something? Would a regular shooting range membership count?

>>64225011
They're actually very available now, they removed the two pistol lifetime limit and you can now get 4, even all at once if you'd like.

The initial demand was great but now that they're on "Round 5" all of the hardcore collectors/boomers met their limits already so now there are plenty to go around.

>>64225019
A shooting range membership would be proof of "marksmanship activity" which is another requirement outside being in a CMP affiliated club. You would need a club official to sign off on an affidavit. The membership itself would not be enough.

Most people join the Garand Collectors association, its like $30 and it automatically shares your info with the CMP For easy use.

Buying a gun from the CMP is a pain in the ass because you have to jump through all these dumbass hoops, which is I guess why there are plenty of 1911s available now, after all of the hardcore collectors maxed out. There are rumors that they are not even halfway through all of the pistols congress allocated to them. Hence why they've now increased the lifetime limit to 4 guns.

https://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/eligibility-requirements-2/

>>64225062
So, basically I just join the garand club, show them my cc permit and pay? I don't need to actually own a garand to join the club do I? Think there are any union switch and signals or singers in there?

>>64223090
Nothing overpriced about this.

>>64222395
Not true, everyone has the right to manufacture a firearm in the privacy of their own home, no paperwork required.

>>64222443
>schizo is too paranoid to go through a simple background check to buy a gun, even though it sounds like he doesn't technically fail any of the prereqs
Kek, I guess the system does work sometimes

Good thread OP

>>64222780
You could buy the upper, LPK, 2 80s and a good router or cheap drill press for less than that

>>64222429
That's absolute nigger shit for multiple reasons

>>64222708
>if you are white middle class like me,

You aren't middle class if you're a retail wagie kek. You're legitimately below the poverty line.

>>64222443
You should see a shrink not a gun dealer

>>64222314 (OP)
I told you, you don't get your gun until you tell me your name.

>>64227856
lel

>>64222677
It's reads SHALL NOT not SHALL SOMETIMES

>>64222314 (OP)
its a complex process to filter out retards. Retards can figure out how it works and just give up. Its the best thing really, for everyone.

>>64222509
I dunno bruh, hippas b big ass muhfuggas. I be seein' shit bout dem hippas eatin' niggas all day time dawg. Dey look cute when dey b little, doh

NICS pulls from a dozen registries for its background check and the digital copy is retained then deleted after 30 days. The FFL however retains a physical copy and if a trace report is initiated for a stolen or criminally used firearm the FFL has to pull out its copy that includes the serial and basic information on the last known owner. The only info retained long term is name, address at time of purchase, and optionally your SSN. If you behaved the way you are in this thread I would decline to sell you a firearm for being extremely suspicious then tell you to get the fuck out once you inevitably turn hostile
>t. Works in the firearms industry

>>64225062
>he doesnt live within driving distance of anniston where he can walk in, pick a rifle and crate of .30-06 off their huge racks, and flash them an ID/cert/permit that meets their criteria before walking out the same day

>>64222314 (OP)
Any gun seller has a FFL. A buyer needs an FFL for certain sales. You're trying to buy online, and avoid a store purchase. That's fine, but you need an FFL or C&R "license" to do that. Thus you need to simply have a gun store as the shipping address, and many sites have a directory of gun stores already preloaded for you to pick.

Why the fuck are you from PA and this retarded about buying guns? They sell them like grapes over there.

>>64228169
ALL your rights can be removed through the legal process. otherwise they wouldn't be able to put people in jail. read the constitution dumbass

>>64223168
OP is a felon trying to be clever. everyone knows that the best form of privacy is to just be a boring average dumbfuck.

>>64228169
Except the Constitution includes the 'you can get your rights removed' in the wording. It's exactly why you get 'Soverign Citizen' bullshit in courts over being pulled over for speeding.
>I was stopped in my action of conveyance so you broke the law, I don't recognize the state of the USA
Well ignoring the judge could then make you work to death in a mine because 'cruel and unusual punishment' goes out the window if you claim you're not subject to the rules of the land, certain laws override certain laws. Example, you can't go into a crowded theatre and yell
>THERE'S A BOMB!
>FIRE! FIRE! FLEE!
And then claim 'muh 1st amendment roights to freeze peace'. Because that removes it. Same as Millers Law removes the rights for stuff being 'obscene'. You can't make CP and then claim its your 1st amendment rights to do it.

>>64222314 (OP)
Assuming you don't live in some retarded state you should just be able to go into a gun store, fill out a 4473 (it takes two minutes) and unless they're retarded they should be able to phone the NICS background check system on the spot.

I've never spent more than 10 minutes picking up an purchase online from my FFL but thats probably because my skin is white so my rap sheet is nonexistent and my BC comes back immediately.

>>64222334
>If I do, will I have to do a background check? What about this "FFL" shit? Can I give guns to other people? What are the rules? I don't know any of this shit. I also need to store it safe, I got a young brother living with me who is a former army vet who tried to kill himself (got PTSD bad from Afghanistan)
Did Elon outsource all the fedposting to India? Jeez

>>64222403
>future school shooter phenotype
no guns for you, retard. you're lucky you aren't in a cage

>>64222314 (OP)
Well, just click no evidence and not guilty

As a local, this guy seems retarded and shit. PA is a pretty damn good state for gun laws.
Montco makes a carry permit cake heard Bucks is very easy too, good luck in Philly proper tho.

Try not being retarded anon, then go to a gun store and do your paper work it's really not hard, you type like a sperg.

>>64231950
>Try not being retarded anon, then go to a gun store and do your paper work it's really not hard, you type like a sperg.
Do you understand the federal government is openly talking about certain groups like autistic people, people on SSRIs and trans people from losing their access to guns? I fit two out of the three (I am not trans). Do you understand that any background check means I'm on a lifetime registry and they can around up our guns at any time? Do you understand why I'm scared? Only 1-3% of the US population is autistic and at any time they can start round us up into concentration camps as I stated once and will state again, I'm on a government registry under RFK Jr., I've been diagnosed autistic since elementary school. I want a gun for protection for my community.

>>64231950
As for PA, I live in Chester County.

>>64232400
> Do you understand the federal government is openly talking about certain groups like autistic people, people on SSRIs and trans people from losing their access to guns?
Are they? Because everything I’ve seen so far is thrice removed “news network reported on some random website reporting on a Twitter user that was supposedly told by someone in the government that they may possibly be discussing the option” with no hard proof.

>>64232400
posts like this dont help.

>>64232400
That entire schizopost is precisely why you should be on a list.

>>64232743
On September 4, 2025, CNN was the first news outlet to report that senior officials at the DOJ were internally discussing ways to restrict transgender individuals from owning firearms. The report cited two officials familiar with the deliberations.

An unnamed DOJ spokesperson—quoted across multiple reputable outlets—has made consistent remarks in response to inquiries. The key points in their statement are:
1. “Actively evaluating options to prevent the pattern of violence we have seen from individuals with specific mental-health challenges and substance abuse disorders.”
2. “No specific criminal justice proposals have been advanced at this time.”

The unnamed White House official quoted in The Washington Post said that:

The discussions at DOJ had occurred, but the idea was “not on the docket” for the Oval Office.

they are downplaying, but they also denied the trans military ban when that was first leaked. i would prefer if my rights weren’t “up for decision” behind closed doors doors.

>>64232857
Hey stupid, go buy a gun and be done with it. Quit wasting our time and collective singular brain cell power on your faffing around

>>64232949
can you understand why people who are opposed to the state would be opposed to background checks that are logged for life by AFT?

>>64232956
>>64232857
I don't think mentally ill people should have guns

trans people are mentally ill

they are also over represented in every group I hate so there's a bonus there too.

>>64222314 (OP)
>and a safe for it.

waste of $$, too easy to steal unless its huge

>>64232966
That's funny until the blue asscheek of the uniparty shifts in and they start diagnosing political dissidents with bullshit like autism

>>64232974
There will be bigger problems if that ever happens, the slope is already slippery. If you haven’t been paying attention the democrat party is all about letting in hundreds of millions of immigrants to replace America.

You can’t “slippery slope muh tranny guns” after what they tried to do. Plus you guys just shot up another church

Covid fucked me up and I needed to see a psychiatrist for turbogay insomnia. I was a little worried when I made my next gun purchase but I'm not a schizo, I have a respectable job and I am a kind person. I've never had anyone ask me about guns. I've never told a shrink about them because although I don't think there is some grand plan just to fuck up the things I enjoy in life I don't think it's necessary to let everyone know I'm a gun owner. It has nothing to do with me trying to better tolerate this gay earth other than being a hobby which makes me happy. I would never kill myself with one and I'd never turn it on someone who wasn't trying to end my life.

Maybe there is some grand palantir skynet that'll find out I'm not an NPC, I have struggles, and own guns and they'll try to take them. Just as probably there could just be a total ban on guns in America tomorrow. I don't fucking know dude it is what it is, you are a part of society and you're not gonna work yourself into somehow being exempt from the same shit everyone else has to go through. Just go buy your fucking gun like a normal ass human American and nothing bad will happen. If what I just said doesn't help then yeah don't own dangerous shit and get some help to get along with things better.

>>64231744
You ever speed run a form 4473?

>>64233005
There is a Gun Show that is less than 30 minute drive from me in 2 weeks, good place to go you think? I'm looking to guy a long gun so I don't have background check preeminently recorded (Penn purges all long gun background checks after 72 hours)

>Just as probably there could just be a total ban on guns in America tomorrow.

It's all hypothetical till it actually happens. Australia and UK were all in the same position we were in terms of guns and than boom 1990s comes along and boom all guns banned after a mass shooting. And I got friends in England who are upset about that.

>>64222369
Jesus christ.

>>64233033
Then just do it you dunce. /k/ isn't your mother, so you don't have to ask us for permission. Just don't act as retarded at the gun show as you have been acting in this thread or else the seller will (rightfully) refuse to sell to you.

>>64232966
>be seeing therapist like reasonable person
>become deemed mentally ill person
>now you are in forced choice between noguns or fight the brainwashed Americans to the death
calling it now. on the one hand, I'll miss being a free American. on the other it's really funny seeing republicans get mind broken into creating a gun grabbing legal situation.

>>64232966
I think all citizens should have the right to own guns as stated by the Bill of Rights. There's nothing in there about rights not applying to mentally ill people.

>>64233065
Do they sell containers / safes at these shows? I live with my parents and I got a PTSD younger brother from the army who saw fighting in Afghanistan and tried to kill himself a few times. I need to make sure that is nowhere near him.

>>64233076
>There's nothing in there about rights not applying to mentally ill people.
Or felons, which EVERYONE seems to forget.

>>64233077
Probably, but you should buy a container or safe somewhere else like Costco. Everything sold at gun shows are incredibly overpriced.

>>64233079
yes. no doubt. if they're out, they served, any new choices to be retarded should be treated as separate.

>>64233076
>>64233079
>>64233087
Well said. There shouldn't be any kind of age requirements for owning a firearm either, since it isn't in the Bill of Rights. We aren't a truly free nation until every elementary schooler is allowed to drink beer and own a gun.

>>64233100
i don't know why you think consistent implementation of age of majority is a gotcha, but aight. be intentionally retarded if that's what you feel.

>>64233100
>age requirements for owning a firearm either,
Do you really think a 14 year old under the tutelage of their parents on a firing range is gonna accidentally shoot someone?

>>64233113
>>64233110
It's not a gotcha you pathetic retards. Some kids are mature enough to own firearms. Certainly more mature than a lot of adult gun owners, that's for sure.

>>64233130
oh, I just assumed you were being facetious. kids getting beer is a little much. we can keep that as parents sneak it to them to get funny reactions until they're 18 and trying to make bad choices. but yeah shit I grew up with guns and strict handling rules, now I'm not retarded. seems good to me.

>>64233136
>oh, I just assumed you were being facetious.
That's the unfortunate state of things today. Expressing an originalist view of the Constitution is considered so bizarre that people assume that it's sarcasm when stated.

>kids getting beer is a little much.
Kids should be allowed to drink alcohol. Why? Because I know they will take a couple sips and swear it off until they are grown up. When I was a kid, I didn't drink alcoholic drinks bc they tasted bitter when i tried them, but once I grew up, I started to enjoy them.

>>64233157
>When I was a kid, I didn't drink alcoholic drinks bc they tasted bitter when i tried them, but once I grew up, I started to enjoy them.
Not all alcohol tastes terrible even to a child's palate.
I remember thinking champagne was nice

>>64233172
Champagne and wine sucks. I don't even like drinking it as an adult. I'd even take cheap Soju over those drinks.

>>64222314 (OP)
Hey fed boy

>>64233190
I can understand not liking most wines I guess but champagne seems kind of universal?
If not something you'd want to sit and get smashed on exclusively.
Though I completely get it if you've only had the really sweet stuff

>>64232857
So again, no actual proof. Just “someone told us that someone else told them that it was happening”

>>64234094
white house confirmed the talks were happening washington post

>>64234094
>>64234100

I'll take a Cheerwine over an alcoholic drink any day.

>>64233076
There’s plenty of historical precedent to deny certain groups of people guns like
>black people
>loyalists who fought for England
>native Americans
>intoxicated people
The Bruen Test as written by the Supreme Court allows stripping guns from trannies

>>64234116
we aren’t asking if there is historical precedent, we are asking if it should or shouldn’t be implemented. as for those board prohibitions, those ones that applied to say black people or native were later repealed or ruled unconstitutional. SCOTUS already ruled in 2020 that transgender people are a protected class. that gives heightened scrutiny when doing stuff like gun restrictions cause of that civil rights aspect. there is also the hypocrisy aspect, “you are banning guns for them but not everyone”. they would also have to boardly ban them, current mental health denials to guns are done though case by case judges ruling and trans won’t even apply as its not a mental illness.

>>64234216
Don’t care

>>64234240
answer the question you little weasel. you can’t just ban guns for certain people and not others. especially with heightened scrutiny for a protected class that transgenders are.

>>64234253
We will get rid of protected class for transgender people and make them a less protected class.

>>64222609
You should be denied guns too purely for being way too cringe.

>>64234275
Oddly enough, every day we inch closer to that beimg the reality. It will be followed by "he gave me the ick and should therefore have no guns"

>>64232972
You usually bolt it down.

>>64234260
You can't, it's SCOTUS binding ruling. You would have to justify it before SCOTUS that it isn't discrimination though heightened scrutiny.
>>64234289
And don't forget who the president is.

>>64234305
Reclassify transgenderism as a mental illness and there is no ruling broken

>>64234253
>>64234305
>le anti-Trump tranny

>>64234323
>Reclassify transgenderism as a mental illness

you are one dumb ass motherfucker you know that right? There is one single universal federal definition of “mental illness” in US statutory law. It is primary handed though the DSM-5. So good luck trying to convince the American Psychiatric Association (APA) of that. Let's say you hypothetically you do, that STILL doesn't mean there is a broad ban on transgenders owning guns, you would need to convince judges all around America on a case by case basis to adjudicate their rights to own a gun because guess what, mental illness is not in it of itself a prohibition on gun ownership, a court adjudicating your rights to a gun is.

>>64234329
I'm not even trans.

>>64234323
Kinda is, because then you open it up to anyone diagnosed with depression, add, autism, etc. Right now the bar is involuntary commitment, but if you add mental illness diagnoses its gonna disqualify a fuckton of people.

>>64234358
>anyone diagnosed with depression, add, autism, etc.

Only depression is classified as mental illness in DSM-5, autism is not

>Right now the bar is involuntary commitment, but if you add mental illness diagnoses its gonna disqualify a fuckton of people

It also sets precedent for other groups to be added.

>>64234351
>>64234358
We will find a way and yes I also think transgenders should be involuntarily committed

Shouldn’t have shot up several schools.

>>64234442
>We will find a way and yes I also think transgenders should be involuntarily committed

You'll have to implement your authoritarian laws and I'm already prepping trans people to defend themselves from federal agents from the state.

>Shouldn’t have shot up several schools.
Are you gonna say that to the 95% of cis shooters?

>>64234466
YNBAW

>>64222314 (OP)
>AAAAARGH I HAVE TO PUT FORWARD A MODICUM OF EFFORT I'M GOING INSANE

>>64222318
To be fair, most LGS are an absolute dogshit experience that seem designed to lose customers and sales.

>>64234477
>setting a precedent for gungrabbing is tradbased
What a fucking cuck

>>64234492
You degenerates pushed and pushed and now you get the stick. Deal with it.

>>64234485
>AAAAARGH I HAVE TO PUT FORWARD A MODICUM OF EFFORT I'M GOING INSANE

I am a diagnosed autist, on SSRIs, live with my parents, has a brother who is a former Army vet from Afghanistan with PTSD bad and who tried to kill himself several times. And closest friend is two hour drive from me. And I never brought a gun in my life. So sorry I'm going about this in the highest of scrutiny. I have a feeling if my parents find out, they are gonna flip their fucking shit and I'm already extremely paranoid of the federal government of AFT having my info. I will go to a gun show not far from me, but I got to make sure there are no piggies and feds there.

>>64234535
You should not possess a firearm. Simple as.

>>64234528
>You degenerates pushed and pushed and now you get the stick. Deal with it.
Stfu you dumb ass boot licker. We will fight and defeat you.

>>64234546
>You should not possess a firearm. Simple as.

I'm an active revolutionary and I need it for my own protection for my revolutionary work.

>>64234554
You should not posses any rights at all. Simple as.

>>64234548
You're too busy fighting your own body (and losing) to fight anyone else.

>>64234528
>you degenerates
It wouldn't affect me, but its stupid to open the door to things that will inevitably used against conservatives in 4 years.

>>64234577
Its been used against us for the last 20 years.

>>64234583
Cool, so you agree it would be as retarded as handing someone a knife that youve been fighting with for 20 years?

>>64234589
You're either under the boot or you wear the boot. Its really that simple.

>>64234574
>You should not posses any rights at all. Simple as.
Wow so full on mask off you just want to tear up the constitution and go back to autocracy?

>You're too busy fighting your own body (and losing) to fight anyone else.

It only takes 1.5 to 3 years for full male-to-female (MTF) gender-affirming surgery—often called vaginoplasty or genital reconstruction, to take place. after that is is just Dilation, HRT and blood testing.

>>64234370
>Only depression is classified as mental illness in DSM-5, autism is not
Depression can also be arbitrarily diagnosed. In fact, next to autism it's the best candidate for sluggish schizophrenia 2.0.
>Oh you're unhappy? The world is not shit. Everything is great. The GDP is higher than ever. You are mentally ill if you have a problem with glorious motherland.
Many things in the DSM-5 should have nothing to do with firearm rights. They are arbitrary disorders that were formulated because they impede employment and happiness as a low tier wage laborer or public school attendee and do not impact anything else.

Most of psychiatry is "the department of finding people who don't like to be slaves and drugging them until they do"

>>64234466
Several of your trans agents tried to attack a border patrol facility on July 4th.

11 armed trantifa, 1 casualty, 13-14 arrests

I’m not scared, I am scared of you guys attacking people who can’t fight back like children

>>64234609
>Wow so full on mask off you just want to tear up the constitution and go back to autocracy?
You have identified yourself as a "revolutionary" which means you self-identify as being fundamentally opposed to our constitutional order. As such, you get the boot.
>after that is is just Dilation, HRT and blood testing.
As I said: Fighting your own body (and losing).

>>64234599
Boot changes feet about every 4-8 years, chief. But your statement tells me all I need to know about how insufferable of wokie you really are under the thin venier of red you slapped on yourself.

>>64234609
Troons belong in an insane asylum where they can't hurt anyone. It's the safe and peaceful alternative to protect our churches.

>>64234636
>Most of psychiatry is "the department of finding people who don't like to be slaves and drugging them until they do"

That's exactly what happened at my retail job. I quit it without a replacement job because I was depressed and thought I was in a black void, they started putting me on SSRIs and I rejoined by retail job for a another 10 years.

>>64234609
With a little prodding you shown that you don’t give a shit about the 2A, America, rights, but actually you want your revolutionary group armed to kill Americans

OP is gonna fuck up 21a on the 4473 isn't he?

>>64234669
The 2nd amendment was set up to overthrow the government.

>>64234646
>ur woke!
Nope. The asymmetrical use of power is over. This game of "you cant pull the lever! they may also pull the lever!" when we are in power followed by wild lever pulling when the other side is in power is over.

>>64234609
The Constitution's Framers lawfully executed sodomites under the Constitution, so how can it be unconstitutional?

Please don't project your degeneracy and violent impulses on normal American gun owners. Seek mental help before you hurt someone innocent.

>>64232999
>You guys
Why do you think everyone who disagrees with any part of your half of the uniparty is DUH LIBS

The democrat party is 100% willing to do this
>XX% of mass shooters were racist
>Racist beliefs are now grounds for red flagging
They just need the other useful idiots to set the precedent. When you live in a nation that has equal rights on the books, anyone using inequality to justify action is 100% smarter than you and doing it to fuck you over later.

Much like how they ended up with militarized police that trained with mossad "because black people and drugs, baaad!" and now the president openly said he'd consider death for "antisemites" (anyone who opposes the US giving more money to israels war efforts than it gives to its own people)

>>64234637
> I am scared of you guys attacking people who can’t fight back like children
That's what ICE does.

>>64234639
>You have identified yourself as a "revolutionary" which means you self-identify as being fundamentally opposed to our constitutional order. As such, you get the boot.

Where does it say revolutionaries can't own guns or have no rights?

>>64234659
>insane asylum
those don't exist anymore. cope. You can't just start rounding people up into concentration camps, that would be a Gestapo tactic.

>>64234702
Cool story bro. It would be super compelling in 2007.

>>64234711
It was compelling in 2007, which is why occupy wall street got systematically replaced with social justice "for no reason at all" and then the entirety of corporate america joined in.

With feds, you lose.

>>64234696
>The Constitution's Framers lawfully executed sodomites under the Constitution, so how can it be unconstitutional?
You are one stupid motherfucker.

The last confirmed historical record, the last well-documented lawful execution in the United States for consensual sodomy appears to be in 1785 in Pennsylvania, when John Knight and Arthur McKee were hanged for “buggery” with each other.

That was before the US constitution even took effect.

>>64234693
You mustve run with some absolutely r/thedonald tier retards for you to actually believe that happened. Magatards and wokies are the same reactionary purity spiral retards.

>>64234726
The point, retard, is that we've been through the Obama and Biden admins. This whole routine where we dare not use power because "what will they do when they get it!?!?!" is moot because we know they answer: they will use it.

So, when we have power we use it to achieve our political goals within the framework set by the Constitution. The nu-right doesnt care what the left may or may not do, the nu-right cares about doing what it promised voters it will do and stripping schizos of guns has bipartisan support.

>>64234753
>r/thedonald tier retards for you to actually believe that happened.
Nah, I was just an adult during the Obama admin.

>>64234754
Biden didn't get shit done retard

>>64234711
>Cool story bro. It would be super compelling in 2007.
If you want to start confiscating guns against your political enemies (let's face it, that's what you actually), you would have to silence the judiciary and congress and implement martial law. You would face mass resistance and potential civil war and coup attempts.

>>64234754
Why are you still acting like there are two parties?

Everything trump has done so far was planned in advance when obama was "in charge".

There is only one party.
And after this, you ARE losing gun rights for "antisemitism".

>>64234765
>Biden didn't get shit done retard
As I recall he let 12 million people into the country and placed people who attended Latin Mass under federal surveillance, ignored SCOTUS rulings on Student Loans and tried to pass a constitutional amendment via a tweet.

>>64222314 (OP)
I wonder who could be behind this post? Ruzzia lost btw

>>64234769
>If you want to start confiscating guns against your political enemies
Nope.

I think people who are insane should not possess firearms.

>>64234788
>I think people who are insane should not possess firearms.
Great where does it say that in the 2nd amendment?

>>64234795
>Great where does it say that in the 2nd amendment?
Same way that felons are not allowed to own guns.

>>64234781
Let's see what ChatGPT has to say.

>>64234788
You will now be diagnosed with autism if you have fewer than 10 friends and no social media
You will now be diagnosed with depression if you think the world is shit
Antisemitism will be fast tracked to insanity status under this administration and the WSJ will run articles calling it "the deadliest mental health issue in history"

>>64222787
USA doesn't have anonymous voting? Fucking GRIM

>>64234788
>>64234815

>>64234781
>Latin Mass under federal surveillance
Pope already had cracked down on latin mass, so anyone who did so is a heretic/loony toon anyway. The rest of that is literal nonissues.
>>64234782
>t.falseflag shill

>>64234815
>Biden did not let 12 million people into the country, he let 8.3 million census-acknowledged people into the country. Liberals win!
Thanks, NPC!

>>64234788
Kys gun grabber, back to >>>/pol/

>>64234816
>no you cant disarm the insane because maybe they will say you're insane!
I accept the risk.

>>64234788
>>64234815
>>64234827

>>64223097
In 2019, I got a Service Grade for $750. I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of boomers panic buying in 2020 depleted their stock.

>>64234816
>Antisemitism will be fast tracked to insanity status under this administration and the WSJ will run articles calling it "the deadliest mental health issue in history"
And it will happen real soon with the say the Trump admin is targeting anyone under this "antisemetism" label.

>>64234831
I do not recognize the current roman catholic church as a valid spiritual institution and I do not believe the bible as translated and canonized is entirely without ulterior motives injected by men with political and ideological goals.

This statement may lose me my gun rights in the future.

>>64234815
>>64234827
>Refugee admissions ~197,000 (2021–2024)*
>Afghan parolees >73,000 (2021–2022)
>Ukrainian entrants (Uniting for U.) ~85,000–221,000 depending on program
>Border “encounters” ~7.2 million (SW border); ~10 million total nationwide
>“Gotaways” ~1.5–1.7 million
>Alleged admitted illegal entrants ~5.3 million (congressional estimate)

Just border encounters and gotaways is 11.7 million. Cope.

>>64234850
It will be under JD Vance's catholic papist theocracy.

>>64234735
>the founding fathers didn't exist 10 years after the revolutionary war so uuuuuhhhhhh their actions doesn't count!
I guess it's a futile question but why is mental illness such a comprehensive condition?

>>64234788
Insanity is a legal defense not a clinical diagnosis, maybe you should master the most basic terminology before dictating what other people can and cannot do?

>>64234754
>Vote for Trump, Kamala will take your guns!
>Umm sweaty, Trump was the pro gun control candidate, if you didn't want to see your rights further eroded, you should have voted better
This shit right here is why I don't vote. The whole thing is a sham to blame the citizenry for the ruling class doing whatever they felt like doing anyway. The day of the rope can't come soon enough.

>>64234853
Trans rights are human rights, get over it already you fucking pissbaby

>>64234834
Post guns.

>>64234837
>so low info he has to rely on chatgpt

>>64234708
>that would be a Gestapo tactic
kek
Oh no no no, not the Gestapo tactics!

>>64234835
>They will
They have explicitly announced their plans to.

>>64234862
>resorting to literal semantics

And then one day, for no reason at all...

>>64234850
>sedevacantist
You could have just said you were a schizo and save us all the trouble

>>64234868
>>64234877
Nazis lost, the left wins again, KYS CHUD TRANS RIGHTS NOW

>>64234831
>Pope already had cracked down on latin mass, so anyone who did so is a heretic/loony toon anyway
No? Pope just said that the church should move away from the latin mass to be more inclusive. Each Bishop has total discretion as to what form mass will take in his domain.

>leftypol raid thread
>no screeching about palestine
>no blantant israeli shills
>no retarded browns
>no ziggers
>no piggers
something seems a lil sus ngl

>>64234881
>Humans have free will
>Religions are a form of power
>Could humans have corrupted the faith to gain power?
>God would NEVER allow humans to exercise their free will and abuse religion!
he would and he has to. question of evil.

if mankind as a whole chooses to turn to sin god will, does, and has to allow the entire species to go to hell and mark it as a failure. it began and ended in an eyeblink to him anyways. he doesn't care.

>>64234861
i didn’t realize the founders controlled the state government of pennsylvania, which literally soon after abolished that law.

>>64234900
/pol/niggers strike again

>>64234923
>>64234900
nah its just genuine shilling from lolbert trannies.

>>64234893
That is about the extent of a papal crackdown. Total discretion is not really the cases and is a good way to get defrocked or excommunicated. Pretty sure francis actually excommunicated a guy to make a point that he wasn't fucking about on it.
>>64234901
That's a good deal of outing youself as being a faithless trashcan fire.

>>64232857
Maybe you should have bought a gun before all this started.
This is what I don't get about trannies. You say shit like "Trump is literally Hitler!" then do nothing but bitch and moan.
Where is your rifle? Oh wait, you don't have one.
How is your PT going? Oh wait, you can't even run a mile.
How is your food and ammo reserves? Oh wait, you have none of those because you're a poor rentoid who spent all his money on cow estrogen and cosmetic surgery.
Even the one in a thousand giga nigga tranny who does all this will get overwhelmed by two or three dudes. Do you really think the armed masses will rally around you and protect you after you've done nothing but be a pain in the ass and an advocate for gun control for the last 12 years?
People like you are the worst advocates for the rights of sexual deviants and gun owners. Please go back to >>>/lgbt/ or >>>/j/ or something.

>>64234931
I call no man on earth Father, bitch.

>>64234934
Trannies don't care about this and never wanted guns anyways, correct.

This is concerning to all of the people who could be arbitrarily diagnosed with autism, depression, antisemitism, "antiamerican personality disorder", "sluggish schizophrenia", etc in the future.

>>64234931
You're not Catholic, you have no idea what you're talking about. There is a diocesan parish 15min from me that offers latin mass. Its not a big deal, its being done with the express permission of a Bishop. Which is why it was so extremely offensive when the FBI did that shit and Biden (Catholic btw) didn't immediately slap it down HARD.

>>64234937
Nah, i imagine you call them daddy normally you fucking schizo

>>64234957
>that really is the extent of a papal crackdown

>>64234959
Nope.

I simply refuse to acknowledge the manmade bible as an authority, or the manmade church as an authority. The true word of god has been degraded, lost, and altered beyond recognition and the last time real christianity was practiced was shortly before christ's execution. Mankind as a whole is lost and very few people will ever be seen as worthy by god. And we have no way of truly knowing who.

>>64234985
So you call up christian arguments to rile people up because you're a disingenuous subhuman, got it

>>64234982
>Its a Papal Crackdown!
>Pls ignore Bishops allowing it
Go away.

>>64235005
Actually I was proving a point that there are people who would want me declared insane and possibly stripped of my rights for a divergent religious view that nonetheless, holds that murder, theft, adultery, sodomy, etc are self evidently sinful.

>>64235031
Cool, so you want that to have precedent by denying trans peoples gun rights
>>64235018
Yes that is what a papal crackdown looks like, similar to africa being exempt from the recognition of homosexual marriage. Congrats, your diosese is africa tier.

>>64222369
Ask a cop if you can buy a gun. If you're cool they'll check your license and tell you.

>>64235058
I don't. Trannies ARE sinful and succumbing to that neurological disorder is a voluntary act, as is pretending it isn't a disorder that we have an obligation to prevent/cure.

But that doesn't mean they shouldn't have weapons. They're harmless faggots, not my blood enemies. Only like 5 went crazy and the FBI probably groomed them.

>>64235116
Oddly enough, i agree. I don't like trans people as a concept but i abhor the loss of rights for any american.

>>64234934
> Do you really think the armed masses will rally around you and protect you after you've done nothing but be a pain in the ass and an advocate for gun control for the last 12 years?
every person in x group thinks the same and has the same exact political views

>>64235134
Easy. They aren’t Americans anymore.

ITT we have one talking about revolution and planning another attack

>>64234934
>you've done nothing but be a pain in the ass and an advocate for gun control for the last 12 years?

>t. Person advocating for gun control

>>64235252
> They aren’t Americans anymore.
where does it say that in the constitution?

>>64235058
>non-Catholic lectures Catholic about the nature of the Church
Begone, Tranny.

>>64235252
>They aren’t Americans anymore
lol, lmao even no. That's the most slippery slope retarded ahit ive heard in my life.

>>64235333
Look, I'm sorry francis didn't notice the diosecse of bumfuck kansas during his papacy. That doesn't mean the latin mass wasn't supressed by him doctrinally, its more likely just one bishop not complying but not being worth the effort.

>>64235326
People who take up arms against the United States

>>64235375

>>64235402
>People who take up arms against the United States
didn't know Daniel Shays and the Confederates lost their gun rights

>>64235402
>everyone should be judged by the words of one schizo in the group
You'd depopulate the planet following this

>>64235389
You have literally no idea what you're talking about none. Pope Francis whole thing was synodality. Devolving core functions of the church to local Bishops. Per Francis's rules all a Priest needs to conduct Latin Mass is his Bishops permission.

Latin Mass is the least controversial thing in the world. End of story.

>>64235418
Aight, made me google it. He made every bishop send a letter asking for permission. Bumfuck kansas got a permission slip, congrats dude.

Austria should return to having all it's legal laws written in Latin desu.

>>64235415
>one schizo
I saw plenty of trans praising the last shooting and the one before that.

several members of the failed domestic terror attacks at the border patrol facilities were trans

A trans person was in a shootout and killed a border patrol agent January 20th.

>>64235463
>I saw plenty of trans praising the last shooting
I doubt that. The detrans person was planning originally on shooting up a trans furry event, but decided against because "they might be armed". They decided to go after the church because it would be easier and less defended.

>>64235475
Not going to convince me

I saw the posts. I argued with them. You have attached “trans rights are human rights” with imagery of weapons, meaning if I don’t accept your delusion I am basically committing genocide against you and you are justified in killing me

>>64235463
Aight, so should we take the failed men posting at pol as a reason to dehumanize incels?

>>64235389
>>64235058
This is a very transparent larp. The Catholic Church does not recognize homosexual marriage anywhere. You're thinking of the Anglican Church which has the famous "African Split" re: gay marriage.

Tridentine Mass was not "doctrinally suppressed" because mass is not doctrinal. Francis could have easily banned TM throughout the whole Church if he wanted to, he didnt, because the focus is on developing growth orientated devotional practices not suppressing the medium mass is conducted in.

You're spazzing out about whether or not mass is held in Latin or English/Spanish/Whatever. I know Catholic things are very spooky to non-Catholics like (you) but this is fucking lame AF.

>>64235488
Pol is irrelevant and once YOU stop going there and posting there it’s as if it never existed

What is real is the Seattle Public School district teaching trans gender identity to kindergartners without any way to opt out.

>>64235483
>I am basically committing genocide

You are, and link related is what you are doing. The Nazis literally KILLED and detranstioned trans people. Do you understand? You are literally a Nazi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_people_in_Nazi_Germany

>>64235507
>What is real is the Seattle Public School district teaching trans gender identity to kindergartners without any way to opt out.

yes they should be learning it in high school instead. are you stupid? sex ed is common in schools. I barely even learned sex ed, I wish I learned more honestly.

>>64235444
500 parishes across America offer it. Which means effectively every single Archbishop has asked for and received permission. The Vatican itself conducts Latin Mass in both forms.

>>64235502
>You're thinking of the Anglican Church
My church Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) as well since 2013. Presbyterians as well. I think Methodists as well.

>>64235512
I was literally thinking earlier today if thr Nazis won and if we allied with them if we would have to deal with mentally ill transgender people thinking they have the same rights as human beings and also revolving door justice systems that allow black people to brutally murder white people. Imagine that poor girl’s screams muffled by her throat being cut by a 14 time repeat offender

Are we both trolls? I’m here just to tell trans people I hate them

>>64235545
Any Church that has any sort of ambiguity towards homosexuality is not a church worth attending.

>>64235567
why? did you not read jonathan and david relationship?