Thread 64223497

I think NAA finally made a revolver that I'd buy. What do y'all think?

>>64223497 (OP)
I don’t know what you’d buy, what the fuck are you asking me for

>>64223499
Their new NAA Ranger is top-break rather than having to fully remove the cylinder, load it, and reinsert it.

>>64223497 (OP)
This looks like something you can comfortably stash in the old prison wallet. It has some nice contours for his pleasure.
I'd say go for it.

>finally made
Huh? They've offered a top break for years.

>>64223535
Have they? I'd only ever seen the version with the removable cylinder.

>>64223544
yeah, the ranger 1 (top) came out like a century ago, and it was a no 3 russian-style opening that you push up to open, then the ranger 2 which was a schofield-style where you pull back, because people were complaining about accidental opening with the ranger 1.
you're pretty late OP.

That’s cool as hell

Posting wheel gun in wheelgun thread

>>64223497 (OP)
>>64223569
Do they make any real guns like this, or only gallery toys? Be neat in .357mag, and actually useful.

>>64223569
That's cool as hell. I never gave a shit about the Pug, but this Ranger tempts me.

>>64223579
>Posting wheel gun in wheelgun thread
Thank you. Wonderful gun you have there.

I want to get a .357 revlover but I don't shoot the guns I do have very often. If I buy one particularly a good one like a ruger or a s&w I know I'm gonna regret it. At the same time I wonder about the quality of the cheaper ones like charter or taurus.

>>64223603
Why would you regret getting something functional out of the box and not having to immediately RMA it like a couple Tauruses I’ve seen on here, you know what their owners did? They sold them and bought Rugers, why add extra steps? Do you like making thing as complicated as possible for yourself?

>>64223595
>Do they make any real guns like this, or only gallery toys? Be neat in .357mag, and actually useful.
Russia designed a .357 Magnum top-break for export, but when Bill Clinton banned the Russians from importing guns into the US, Russia decided not to enter these into production. It was called the MP-412 REX.

>>64223603
>charter arms
Do they even make .357 Magnum? I thought they made .38 SPL revolvers and begged their users to never shoot +P through them.
>taurus.
About the same quality as S&W nowadays, Taurus QC improved a bit when they built their US factory, and S&W QC has gone down a lot over the years, so they match now.

>>64223618
for spending the money on a gun I will very rarely use. I'm lucky to hit the range 2x a year and already have a 9mm handgun I haven't shot yet.

>>64223624
Yes I played BFBC 2 as well.

>>64223639
Yeah and? Most people here don’t shoot anywhere near what they brag about doing anyways, if you want it, buy it. Prices are going up. The longer you wait, the less your money will get you, and the higher the MSRP will be.

>>64223595
Taylors and Co imports Uberti top breaks.
You have either the Russian or the Schofield in many different lengths and finished in 38, 44 and 45. They are pricey and will run you $1500 for the least expensive model.

There are no magnum offerings, the top break frame is thought to not be strong enough for magnums.

https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/russian-6-5-44russian-rc1-550685.html

>>64223624
>Do they even make .357 Magnum?

They do, the professional series comes to mind but I've never had one.

>>64223676
I went Colt Anaconda over one of these since I know I would get bored just shooting .38spl or .44 Russian through them.

>>64223544
>I'd only ever seen the version with the removable cylinder.
They have ones with swing cylinders as well.

>>64223676
>There are no magnum offerings, the top break frame is thought to not be strong enough for magnums.
The tech to do it has been around since the 80s, but no one has made one other than Anderson Wheeler's $10000 .357 webley.

>>64223676
The model you linked isn't being made anymore, but that's a cool wheelgun. From what I can see by poking around the site, they are only making them in .38 SPL, .44-40, and .45 LC (which is surprising as modern .45 LC is pretty strong). All the other Schofield models seem to be discontinued.

I do want a single action cowboy revolver at some point but that's pretty low down on the priorities list. Practical guns come first.

>>64223676
>the top break frame is thought to not be strong enough for magnums

And yet it works for double barrel shotguns. Guess it's just the slim profile of a revolver that precludes a strong enough locking mechanism.

>>64223771
>Practical guns come first.
Bruh, if you have a long gun in an intermediate cartridge and a carry handgun, then you already have all the practical you need. Live a little.

>>64223703
>They have ones with swing cylinders as well.
I discovered those today too. Very practical, not as cool as the top-break though.

More wheelguns plz!

>>64223497 (OP)
The ranger was introduced in 2011/2012, and the updated version dropped in 2016. They're just uncommon and expensive as far as the naa line goes. I had one for a while, I put oversized grips on it so I cpuld actually grip it, then realized it had become the same size as my LCP2, and switched back to that for pocket carry. The ranger is undeniably cool, top break revolvers are peak aesthetics.

>>64223785
Shotguns work on low pressures and also have all the space in the world for a big fuckoff locking lug somewhere.
It's also not so much that it's impossible to make a Magnum topbreak, it's that older designs from 120+ years ago with older metallurgy and older casing styles won't be strong enough to tolerate it.

Now, arguably your frame and lockup would need to be more beefy than you'd really like it to be if you wanted a topbreak which could rock Buffalo Bore loads like it was a Ruger Redhawk, but it's not like it needs to either, normal loadings of .44 Magnum aren't exactly meek stuff.

>>64223771
You can always get a Wrangler or Rough Rider for an inexpensive .22 cowboy gun, they're damn fun.

its NAA so its boomerslop. why even have quick-change loading on a derringer? the entire point is that its the most minimally viable type of gun. adding bulk just makes it the same size/weight of a subcompact.

>>64223497 (OP)
>NAA Ranger
>.22 magnum?

>.32 bore & cylinder?

>>64225088
>Shotguns work on low pressures
Pressure alone is meaningless. What matters is the total force on the latch, which is a product of the pressure and the area of the case head. force = pressure x area. Shotshells are low pressure, but they are also much bigger than a pistol cartridge.
A 12ga is about 10,000 psi and has an area of about .42 square inches, it generates a little over 4000 lb of force at peak. A .357 mag might be 35,000 psi but it only has an area of .11 square inches, which means it makes about the same amount of force as a 12ga.

Nevermind the fact that people were building break-action guns in calibers that were both much bigger, and much higher pressure than a 12ga, even with less than ideal steel of the 19th century. A double rifle in a safari caliber totally mogs the forces involved with a .357. Though, you are right that those guns have much more room for bigger locking surfaces, 3rd fasteners, etc. I think it would be entirely possible to build a break-action 357 or 44 capable of taking full power modern loads, but it would be very expensive and bulky, as it would need a perfectly fitted and rather large latch assembly.

>>64225115
There's also the issue of basic geometry of a revolver exerting more leverage on the hinge point than something like a double rifle would, and the fact that high-power break action guns like double rifles usually have additional locking points, which are often more or less inline with the hinge for additional strength.
Pic rel (>9000 hours in MS paint)

>>64223569
>people were complaining about accidental opening with the ranger 1.
I will stipulate that people are stupid, but I've never accidentally opened my 999.

>>64223703
Look at NAA all grown up now!

>>64225195
>usually have additional locking points
Yes, those are the "third fasteners" I mentioned. Typically you'd have the usual 'double purdey underbolt' inline with the hinge like a typical sxs shotgun would have, and then a 3rd fastener, which could be passive like a doll's head or it could be actively locking like a greener crossbolt, etc, up near the top of the action where it breaks open. Personally I think the Bisley "rising bite" 3rd fastener would be ideal for a break-action handgun. It is extremely strong, can be made self-tightening by using a tapered bolt, and it can be added without interfering with the normal lockwork in the revolver--put one bolt on either side of the hammer. Downside, as usual, is cost.

>>64225243
Preliminary idea: Use a rotating locking bolt. That ought to be pretty damn strong. Pic rel, example of a locking lever installed on the left side of the barrel assembly.
Idea in progress; Some type of rotating locking mechanism using an eccentric cam, a bit like the door locks used on shipping containers.

RETVRN

>>64225383
That would work, it's just an awkward manual of arms.

>>64225440
>That would work, it's just an awkward manual of arms.
Fuck it, Lefachaux break action lock!

Fuck, I'm going to do it. Why not?

>>64225208
Your gun is much larger than the NAA Ranger. Don't you think that having a larger, more comfortable grip would make it less likely to happen?

>>64225510
Good choice. GP100s are based.
Absolute tank of a revolver.
With rubber grips and a full lug barrel that long, it'll be an absolute sweetheart to shoot, even with full power Magnum loads.

>>64223497 (OP)
I will admit i like it more than derringers but i still dont like the dainty trigger.

>>64225510
>why not
Safety manual warning engravings, which are unacceptable.

>>64225524
Fair enough, I've never met someone who does like the triggers.

>>64225521
Are the rubber grips better? I was thinking about picking up some wood grips for it, just for the aesthetics at the very least.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1124103625
look at this fat fuckin 22

>>64225544
Rubber grips are objectively better in pretty much every regard except looks and long term aging.

>>64225544
Absolutely, it’s a huge reduction in recoil, especially if you have an exposed frame at the backstrap, but you should be fine with .357mag and wood grips, I have a Match Champion GP100 and those grips are fantastic but if they aren’t tightened down, they’ll sledgehammer your hand, making the recoil even worse.

>>64225195
Rather good for just quick MS-Paint scribbles, desu.

>>64225606
Thanks bro.

>>64223703
Why does the cylinder swing out on the wrong side?

>>64223497 (OP)
They’re cool, but I don’t get it. The whole point of the NAAs are to be as small and light as possible. When you get the ones that are more fun to shoot and easier to reload, you end up with a bigger, heavier gun. Your pic is 7.2oz. A P32 is more effective and weighs less.

Stick with the basic ones.

>>64223785
Shotguns are lower pressure (significantly lower) despite being more powerful. Also you absolutely can make a top break to handle a .357, you just couldn’t 125 years ago when top breaks were common. It’s more expensive to make one now, but you could.

>>64225785
You're supposed to hold the pistol and the reigns in your left hand while reloading with your right, that way to can easily maintain control of the horse, and retain your pistol if the enemy surprises you and you have to draw your saber before you're done reloading.

>>64225820
Thanks anon, I had completely forgotten about fighting from horseback.

>>64225510
Do it

Love me wheel guns. I want a DA in .45 Colt now

>>64225544
https://shopruger.com/Rubber-Grip-w_-Rosewood-inserts/productinfo/70083/
Why not both? My .44 Redhawk has these and it's about as comfy to shoot as it can be, but maybe that's because I have the 9.5" barrel.

I really want a break-top that's got that stupid heavy anvil look on the upper barrel, what are some good options?
I kindof don't want a 22 but if it's really cool looking I would entertain it.
it's just gunna be for shooting bottles anyways.

>>64226026
A break top 22 is some of the most fun you can have shooting bottles and cans.

>>64225387
I really want repro tip ups in actual shootable calibers

>>64226179
I hate to say it but you're better off digging out of a pile of 32s for one that still locks good instead of buying whatever sad turkshit pops up on the market.

>>64225827
and done.

>>64223569
They made the wrong choice. You’re far more likely to inadvertently actuate the Schofield style latch when cocking the hammer than the No. 3 type. I am a fiend for NAA minis and want to love the top break, but I can’t get over that dump decision.

>>64223595
Make it .327 with a 7 round cylinder and at least a 4" barrel and TAKE MY MONEY

>>64226179
Me too. A S&W Model 1 made with modern materials and maybe some beefed up parts to handle modern 22lr would be a super fun plinker.

Goddamit, this thread convinced me to buy a NAA Ranger II for shits and figgles.

>>64227027
pushed me over the edge into buying a gp100 I've been on the fence about.

>>64223497 (OP)
For me it’s the Sentinel

>>64225490
>Saddam Hussein

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>>64225208
>999
Based. I just won one of those at an auction, but it hasn't arrived yet. Anything I should look out for?

>>64223497 (OP)
its not double action so its useless for self defense and its got a short barrel so its useless for hunting. whats left? its only purpose is blasting expensive magnum ammo at garbage on the plinking range

Wheelgun in wheelgun thread?

>>64223785
H&R break action rifles had an endemic problem of popping open, being Turkish shotgun level but in long action center-fire hunting calibers. Anything spicier than 10ga, which is a lot of things, just isn't a good choice for a weak breech mechanism. There is a reason rolling block and high walls were designed to handle those pressures. And those pressures were themselves like black powder 45-90, nothing near modern 45-70 or cramming .30-06 or 7mm-08 or something into a Ruger no1

Thinking of picking one of these up. Anyone have experience with them?

Model 19 Carry Comp 3 inch.

>>64227259
Top kek

>>64227216
Also good.

>>64227480
I already have a carry gun. I can live a little and enjoy things.

>>64227545
10/10

>>64227560
Try not to buy S&W revolvers online. Get them at shops so you can inspect them beforehand. I've had 3 friends buy a revolver online, and it came with problems.
>the first guy's gun had a dent in the frame, purely cosmetic but he was really mad.
>the second guy's gun had a front sight that was diagonal to the gun rather than at the top.
>the third guy's gun had light primer strikes with multiple different brands of ammo and a hangfire.
All three guns were fixed after contacting the manufacturer, but that's a headache of its own, having to send it back to them.

>>64227560
I wouldn't ever shoot .357 magnum out of anything less than 4" but if you're just gonna carry .38 special +P it's fine

>>64227560
I've carried mine on and off for the past 2 years. Love it. But it took a little while to get it where it is today.
>Had to replace the front sight because it was too dim for use.
>Experimented with a red dot for a while and didn't hate it.
>Ultimately go back to a mismatched rear/front sight combo
> VZ tactical Diamonds are mandatory.

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>>64223624
>About the same quality as S&W nowadays, >>Taurus QC improved a bit when they built their US factory, and S&W QC has gone down a lot over the years, so they match now.

youre a fucking retard

>>64228167
>youre a fucking retard
Nah, I just use my powers of observation. Look at all the people who talk about how great S&W's customer service is and ask yourself, "Why do all these people have to send their guns back in the first place?"

>>64227027
>>64227095
Do it!

My common big bore collection is now complete. The x frame in 460 is new.

>>64228625
I did! $600 after tax for the Ranger II, including the .22lr cylinder.

>>64230748
Nice!

>>64230748
You are now a top-break chad. The rarest among revolver chads.

>>64230699
based Magnum Enjoyer

>Colt Python 3" blued
>Colt Anaconda 4.25" stainless
Trying to decide between these two. I already have a 4.25" stainless Python that I love. Do I get the same gun but smaller and in a different finish and potentially be able to carry it, or do I get a .44 for the lulz?

>>64228625
I did get a gp100, 844$ with tax. I just hope I'm not wasting my money and it's also my first time buying a gun online (bud's) vs just buying something in stock locally.

>>64225517
No.
>>64227432
The 4" can "sit pretty". You'll figure it out. I still haven't gotten a 6". And look for the 9rnd HKS speed loaders, a nice accessory. And Sack Peterson will do 999 stag grips on special order. I have yet to ask him if he would do them in Cape Buffalo horn, but doubt. Still worth asking.

>>64223676
>Taylors and Co imports Uberti

My brother got a Taylor tuned SAA in 45LC. Case hardened with a larger walnut grip. They call it the Gunfighter model. I've only finger fucked it so far. Balance and trigger are amazing

Revolvers are intentionally handicapping yourself. Single action even more so. And single action, revolver with a loading gate, are the worst of all possible combinations.

>>64223624
>Taurus QC is better than S&W

Only a doofus or a shill would make such an idiotic statement.
Taurus no longer warranties their products past one year, S&W has a lifetime warranty.
And S&W will actually fix it and get it back to you quickly.
Taurus take fucking forever (I think deliberately to get out of the 1 year warranty time span) then sends it back however.

I remind everyone who even looks at Taurus that they are literally a crapshoot and that we no longer service then due to not being able to get parts from Taurus.

>>64232113
Do you remember “fun” anon? Because it hasn’t forgotten you… it’s just waiting for you to ask..

>>64232183
>Do you remember “fun” anon? Because it hasn’t forgotten you…
Is this that thing when your wife gives you a blowjob?
>it’s just waiting for you to ask..
I have asked.

>>64232241
She’s probably just waiting to see you whip out a single action.

>>64232115
>Taurus QC is better than S&W
You must suck at reading; I simply said they matched, not that one was better than the other, a statement that's not hard to believe considering the rate at which their products get sent back is about the same nowadays.
>Taurus no longer warranties their products past one year, S&W has a lifetime warranty.
>And S&W will actually fix it and get it back to you quickly.
>Taurus take fucking forever (I think deliberately to get out of the 1 year warranty time span) then sends it back however.
>I remind everyone who even looks at Taurus that they are literally a crapshoot and that we no longer service then due to not being able to get parts from Taurus.
These aren't talking about quality control at all, just customer service after the gun's been bought. If they were better at quality control, they wouldn't get so many guns back to be fixed in the first place.

>>64232113
See >>64223788 and >>64227715
>I already have a carry gun. I can live a little and enjoy things.
>Bruh, if you have a long gun in an intermediate cartridge and a carry handgun, then you already have all the practical you need. Live a little.

Who's got a 617? Worth the money?

>>64232113
Why don't you enjoy guns?

>>64232567
I have the full-lug, 6", pre-lock. Worth what I paid. I love it. Still need the 10rnd speed loaders by Beez.

>>64231033
You can already carry the Python, an extra inch isn’t going to matter, and you should go 6in Anaconda, not only does it look the best, it has the higher than average muzzle velocity for revolvers that length. If you do get the Anaconda, immediately replacing the grips with Pachmyr Grippers and the Wilson Combat rear sight are a must. The factory grips extend the frame into your hand, and the factory rear sight walks out under recoil in less then 50 rounds.

>>64233894
>You can already carry the Python, an extra inch isn’t going to matter
Inside the waistband, that inch would matter

>you should go 6in Anaconda, not only does it look the best, it has the higher than average muzzle velocity for revolvers that length
Yes, I agree the 6in Anaconda looks the best. But to me the balance of the gun in my hand is more important than muzzle velocity and sex appeal - that's why I'm considering the 4.25".

>If you do get the Anaconda, immediately replacing the grips with Pachmyr Grippers and the Wilson Combat rear sight are a must. The factory grips extend the frame into your hand, and the factory rear sight walks out under recoil in less then 50 rounds.
I absolutely despise the grips on the Colt Python and Anaconda. The wood grips look good but are horrible for shooting. The hogue rubber grip looks horrible and isn't really better for shooting because it leaves the backstrap completely exposed. The rear sights suck ass too. That's why my current Python has the good Pachmayr presentation grips with the enclosed backstrap, and wilson sights.

I wish they took the time to add some serrations to the backstrap given that it's exposed for most grip options out there

>>64234136
>I wish they took the time to add some serrations to the backstrap given that it's exposed for most grip options out there

>Yes, please turn my revolver’s grip into a high velocity cheese grater for hands, said no one ever.

>>64234168
They don't have to be aggressive serrations. Lots of revolvers have serrated backstraps, like the S&W 629

I hesitate to carry a revolver because of the long trigger pull.
In a high stress situation I imagine myself not pulling the trigger all the way through for the hammer to release and strike.
Are there any double action revolvers known for a short trigger pull?

>>64234224
In a high-stress situation youre going to snatch that trigger so fucking hard you'll hurt the joint on your finger.

>>64234230
But you’ve seen the videos of people trying rapid follow up shots. Maybe it’s different in high-stress but often people short stroke the trigger.

>>64234316
Ill always love your revolver. As am.aside, LCPs advertized at $239 in Payson. Made me worder what thier LCR price is. I still want twonor three in different chambers with color coded Forrext grips.

>>64232113
Handicapping yourself at what, you nuguns retard? This is a comfy wheelguns thread, not John Wick Larperator General.

>>64234270
I dunno, I've never short-pulled a trigger and my Rugers are long and heavy af.

>>64235674
You obviously haven't seen 'The A-Team' you pleb. The first mistake of every poser like yourself is to come out as a fake turd, know-it-all while you're still playing retarded "deputy six gun".

>>64235749
We're enjoying wheelguns here. Do you want to participate, or are you just salty about your yoocrane thread getting slid?

>>64235749
Blowing away old spent food cans and soda cans with an old fashioned(ish) .45 brings me joy and mirth. What do you do for fun?

Anyone have any experience with Pietta 1873 clones? I've seen them online for great prices but I wonder how well they hold up, especially in .357 mag. I'd also be interested in getting one in .45 LC to larp with.

>>64235834
Stfu Deputy Fife.

>>64232113
Anything under .357 magnum is handicapping yourself
>W-WELL MY PISSIN HOT 10MM IS CLOSE
That fires out of what 10rd capacity jammomatic and still gets mogged by off the shelf .357?

>>64236000
Shitpost.

>>64236000
I love to reload during a battle.

>>64235749
>"oh yeah, well you haven't seen [insert fictional media here]"
You sound like those people addicted to Harry Potter.

>>64236041
what the fuck are you talking about, not only 10mm is higher caliber but it also delivers more velocity in standard loadings than 357
10mm is 10.1mm, .357 is 9.1mm

>>64236036
>>64236051
I urge you to kill yourself/yourselves.

>>64236036
>>64236051
>>64236345
I'm sorry your country banned fun. You can create your own thread to discuss your hypothetical min/maxed Ukraine loadout. Or there's that airgun thread floating around, that might be more your speed.

>>64223497 (OP)
After the added bulk of the top break mechanism, I don't see that you gain much vs a standard five shot.38/.357. granted, I needed to put a larger Houge grip on my NAA to accommodate my hand.

>>64236693
>more velocity
Are you just trolling? The original .357 magnum loading was a 180gr bullet going 1500+ FPS. The original 10mm loading was a 180gr bullet going 1350+ FPS.

>>64237140
>The original .357 magnum loading was a 180gr bullet going 1500+ FPS
158 gr.

>>64237160
Pretty sure the end stage of this argument is “both the common factory 10mm auto and 357 mag that’s readily available is pretty neutered compared to what they got their reputations from. And while you can get that, it’s expensive…. Also 357 mag has more potential when massively overloaded than 10mm can do, but that really just comes down to 357 revolvers being easier to make a lot stronger than a semi auto…. See 343 casull…. Which is wildly overpowered and kills brass life, and is only safely shot in a handful of absurdly overbuilt revolvers…. But is also just a 357 mag case with a big bullet, and “oops all the powder”

>>64237190
*353 casull….. numbers are hard.

>>64237190
What does that have to do with the fact that >64237140 is wrong about the weight of the original .357 bullets?

>>64237233
Nothing, but it’s generally where this argument ends up any time 357 and 10mm start squaring off

>>64236693
Buffalo Bore 180 Gr. JHP (10mm) is getting 1350 FPS and 728 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle. See link 1. From the same company, Buffalo Bore, the 158 Gr. JHC (.357 Mag) is getting 1475 FPS and 763 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle; furthermore, their 180 Gr. LFN-GC (.357 Mag) is getting 1400 FPS and 783 foot-pounds of energy. See link 2. I'm not trying to argue, but the .357 magnum has higher velocity. Your claim is wrong.

1. https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/lodge/10mm-ballistics/
2. http://ballistics101.com/357_magnum.php

>>64237233
And you were wrong with your velocity claims. Furthermore, 180 Gr. bullets for .357 Magnum do exist.

This ooks cool. But the Smith n .500 and the Colt in .44 are about the same price. @ RTG

>>64236861
>>64237091
You feel better Barney(s)?

man I can't wait until my gp100 gets here. I feel like a kid on Christmas eve.

>>64237473
>Smith n .500
Most people who jump on the large handgun trend tend to shoot it a few times and then sell it. I know a doctor who bought a .454 Casull, and then he sold it because he didn't like firing it. I also know a hunter who bought a .460 S&W, and he only fires it a few times a year (during hunting season). Don't worry about how its performance looks on paper, and just get what you like.

Buying a .22wmr snubby for my recoil sensitive grill btw
Yay or nay?

>>64232113
Wait till you learn about black powder and muzzle loaders, youre gonna lose it

>>64237562
Be sure to get it in pink

>>64237573
>tfw you remember pink guns exist

>>64237562
Terrible, horrible idea, .22 wmr is made to be shot from a rifle barrel, you won’t have any performance gains going to that from .22lr in a barrel that short, and you’ll have horrendous muzzle blast since most of the powder of any given round is burning outside the barrel, in front of the gun. I couldn’t stop laughing shooting a friend’s .22 wmr Kel-tec pistol, giant baseballs of fire on a bright day in front of the muzzle. You’ll also be paying significantly more price per round over .22lr for essentially the same performance.

>>64237562
I wouldn't buy a rimfire for self-defense, but if you're okay with rimfires, then go for it. I would have chosen a revolver in .32 H&R (similar performance).

>>64237562
how about instead of a revolver, a gun that absorbs no recoil, you buy her an automatic?

>>64227432
Mine has much tighter chambers than my heritage rough rider & I'm learning not all 22 ammo is created equally dimensionally. If I get cases that are tight enough they'll actively work against the extractor and end up depressing the detent that holds the cylinder in place, extracting the entire cylinder instead of the rounds. Winchester 333 copper hollow points were doing that but federal bargain bin LRN was fine
Definitely clean the hell out of the chambers and cylinder when you get it, look up disassembly videos but there's only a couple parts

>>64237593
>Terrible, horrible idea, .22 wmr is made to be shot from a rifle barrel, you won’t have any performance gains going to that from .22lr in a barrel that short
Huh, not the original anon you replied to but if that's the case then maybe I should just get the 22lr NAA revolver after all. I don't mind the extra recoil but if that's basically gonna be a negligible difference at best I'd like to not throw away money unless I also end up getting a 22mag rifle down the line too.

>>64237694
>throw away money
It's not about savong a few pennies when you can use your gun signalling the rescue party or deturring with life. Get the magnum and life.

>>64237694
If you were planning on getting the NAA .22 mag also don’t, it’s a waste of money, I literally scalloped off a piece of my thumb and nail shooting one from an empty chamber due to the excessive recoil. But the real reason is they advertise them as .22lr convertible and they are not, you can shoot .22lr through the .22mag barrel from a .22lr cylinder and despite the barrel being like less than inch, this will generate squibs at a higher than average rate due to .22 mag being slightly smaller diameter-wise.

>>64234316

I want something similar but pic related. Cyberpunk gats are so damn cool.

>>64237593
>>64237694
Some .22wmr ammo can reach 100fps faster in a 2" barrel than similar grain .22lr projectiles. It's not much but .22wmr tends to perform slightly better in gel tests. Some people consider a little more juice worth the squeeze when you don't have much juice to start with.

>>64237473
The 22 hornet SRH is neat. But I think for light caliber hand cannons the xframe in 350 legend is neater

>>64237504
Please…. Continue this trend…. I need more 700$ ish dollar x frames…. On a side note if you actually do want to shoot big bore stuff just get into reloading as soon as you get one…

>>64223569
>name your revolver "Ranger"
>start numbering them 1, 2, soon 3
Good thing there isn't already a revolver named the Ranger. Good thing Hopkins & Allen didn't make a Ranger 1, Ranger 2, and Ranger 3, and very good that they didn't also make it rimfire or anything.

>>64237718
>I literally scalloped off a piece of my thumb
>user error
I have never had that problem, ever. Ever. Dumbass.

>>64237602
>how about instead of a revolver, a gun that absorbs no recoil, you buy her an automatic?
Because this is the mother fucking revolver thread.

>>64237758
The juice definitely isn’t worse the squeeze when the gun is going to a recoil adverse girl, and to be clear, I know .22 mag doesn’t have very much recoil, it’s about the muzzle blast from a barrel that short being pretty significant.

>>64237776
Blame my dumbass friend for 1. Telling me it was a .22lr and not a mag 2. Not loading all of the chambers. It wouldn’t have been a problem if the chambers were loaded.

Recommend me some wood grips for my 686+. I want something proportioned similarly to the houges i got on it

>>64237562
I can imagine the noise right about now. My Beretta 21A in 22LR (~3" barrel) is hilariously loud and that doesn't even have a cylinder gap. It's unsilenceably loud (ie. not even 710s or colibris are comfortable for my ears outdoors with a silencer). Generic pic because can't find anything else in my folder; I have the cheaper black plastic grip model.

>>64237758
>It's not much but .22wmr tends to perform slightly better in gel tests.
IIRC 22WMR has actual real jacketed bullets so they tend to have slightly more advanced bullet tech that isn't "soft lead bullet but it has a dinky hollowpoint pre-clogged with wax/but muh truncated cone/but roundnose/but..." and so on. Hell, fucking V-max bullets exist in 22WMR loads IIRC.

>>64237839
Yeah but none of that matters in this case. You’re just adding to cost per round for a training tool.

>>64237846
FWIW I'm not the anon you were replying to in >>64237758 and I really don't recommend 22WMR in something so short for the absurd wasted powder (and ear rape in a SD use case) alone. However I am agreeing that the bullet selection is slightly better.

>>64225785
Why does your Mom swing?

>>64237768
>On a side note if you actually do want to shoot big bore stuff just get into reloading as soon as you get one…
Reloading is a must, but to get experience, I always just tell people to start with .44 Magnum (that can also take .44 special ammo), and then once they've gotten good at handling the recoil, they can move up to their desired cannon.

>>64237769
This is simply just not an issue for NAA fans (they post what they want in the search bar, and it appears), but H&A fans did get BTFO'd though.

>>64237562
If you want it yourself, go for it, it can be a fun toy, but rimfire in double-action is gonna make for kind of a stiff trigger, and .22WMR from a snubbie barrel is gonna be pretty flashy and loud, so I feel like she wouldn't necessarily appreciate it more.

A better handgun for someone recoil shy would be a full-sized .38 Special only revolver, like a Model 10 or Model 64, or maybe an old fashioned .32 Auto handgun, which is slightly compact, but it's all steel so it's not rough to shoot. I mean stuff like the classic FN1900, the Walther PP, the Sauer 38H, the Colt 1903, etc (the latter might be particularly pricy though).

>>64238220
Just a bit silly is all. Also not at all true; the google images and regular search results for "ranger revolver" are a total clusterfuck. You got NAAs, H&As, and tons of random shit like S&Ws, SAAs, etc. Just going top down image results:
>Fallout RANGER Sequoia, Korth RANGER 357, Cimarron Texas RANGER, Dying Light RANGER, Ranger's Colt, Fallout again, Colt .45 Ranger, Texas RANGER bicentennial SAA, Texas RANGER Dragoon, Italian made RANGER blank SAA, Chuck Norris RANGER SAA, RIA Selling a SAA, RANGER BP revolver, Cimarron SAA RANGER, Fallout again again
NAA doesn't even come up until the ~33rd result and it's through fucking DEGuns lol. Normal results it isn't even the first page.

>>64238260
>6
I'm surprised that was your experience; when I looked up the Ranger, the first link was to the NAA website.

>>64237807
I'll buy your M92 wood handguards for $100 if you drop an email

>>64238433
Traded it last week for a cimmeron frontier with a butload of 45lc and a sar k2 45. If i hadn't id of taken you up on your offer

>>64238483
nice guns

>>64238484
The frontier goes nicely with my 1872 open top

>>64237571
>black powder and muzzle loaders
That's just silly. Are you a Musketeer with a big feather in your hat or a Danial Boone with a raccoon on your head?

>>64238242
>A better handgun for someone recoil shy would be a full-sized .38 Special only revolver, like a Model 10 or Model 64
She has a full size revolver in tree fiddy sevun. We're looking for a light weight revolver that won't buck like a mule.
I think I'll take the other anons advice and have her try .32 H&R
>>64237783
>22 mag doesn’t have very much recoil, it’s about the muzzle blast
She just has small grill hands. She's not gun shy.

>>64238571
Bitch I might be.

>>64238571
>Danial Boone

reddit is that way ----->

S&W
>removes the safety that no one asked for (on a few select models)
>still drills the ugly ass hole
Ruger
>READ INSTRUCTION MANUAL
Why do they do this to us?

>>64241354
Ruger's entire brand is focused on being as fuddy as possible.

>>64237586
And are a great way to get a low round count carry gun when they get sold by the same idiot who bought it for his girl after she leaves him.

>>64241510
This is a true statement. Must have burned Bill's ass when criminals popularized the Mini-14 into the American consciousness as rapid-fire death dealers. But I love it when a plan come together.

>>64223497 (OP)
i have a pug with a 22wmr and 22lr barrel, i like it. these tiny naa guns are really well constructed.
i dont think you should worry about it being a top break, you are not going to be firing this a lot and the way to remove the barrel from the regular ones isnt that hard.

>>64232113
>Revolvers are intentionally handicapping yourself
Dumbest poster on /k/
>>64223624
>>taurus.
Twin brother

>>64224816
Does the 2016 top-break Ranger have a release that allows for a CT laser grip to be used without the CT laser being blocked? That was an issue for early top-break Rangers ...

>>64242153
>Dumbest poster on /k/
Weird cope. It is common knowledge that auto pistols are superior to revolvers.

Insomnia tonight, got bored of /pol/.

Here is my free gun. My lame friend gave it to me when he got scared his landlady would kick him out after Trump won. It was his dad's. Double action pull like dragging an engine block over concrete. Single action so light it goes off of you think about the trigger. I guess they made them different back then.

>>64237807
ZPAP with no bulge and imported by century? What is this?

>>64239668
>I might be.
Not surprised a cosplaying fool is having an identity crisis. Figure you who you are and come back when you know.

>>64232113
what an impressively abhorrent post

>>64246948
Zoomers don't understand enjoying something that isn't "meta"

>>64244535
Come back when you actually own firearms, dork.

>>64242192
>It is common knowledge that auto pistols are superior to revolvers.

I fucking hate the young dumbass punks on nu-/k/

>>64223497 (OP)
Have you tried not buying any guns at all, you yankee-doodle retard? Or is it freedom etc etc etc? :)

>>64247905
Just ignore them and continue shooting and being awesome anon.

>>64232113
>Revolvers are intentionally handicapping yourself. Single action even more so. And single action, revolver with a loading gate, are the worst of all possible combinations.
Worth repeating until Fuddits get new batteries for thier hearing aids.

>>64247964
lol sweet summer child.

>>64223497 (OP)
NAAs are meme guns that you either buy as a range toy or if you're like the doctor anon who can't conceal anything larger in his scrubs. Source: I have one. It was too big to conceal on me during my wedding without printing and messing up the lines in my suit, so I pretty much bought it for nothing. At least it was only like $200.

>>64239658
32 H&R j frame is a good choice and if the recoil is still too much, you can load .32 longs instead. I have the new S&W .32 H&Rs but if you want something cheaper you could get a Charter Arms or a Taurus.

>>64241354
That's a different thing. That is a peg inside the frame that the internals need for stability (the hammer pivots around it). All S&Ws have that peg, it just is more visible on the aluminum/scandium frame guns because it's made of steel or titanium instead for better wear resistance and thus has a different finish (like how the cylinder isn't the same color gray).

>>64247985
Then you must think the opposite, that revolvers are superior to auto loaders. A fallacy, but go ahead, say it. I'll wait.

>>64248446
Superior at what? You're comparing apples to oranges, retard.

>>64248652
He thinks only in video game like stats dude. Enjoying something just because you can is a foreign concept.
>less rounds = worst states therefore not meta

>>64248446
It seems like it’s incomprehensible to you that someone can have their own requirements for what constitutes a good gun. Tell me. What do you use a gun for?

>>64223497 (OP)
Hi /k/ never posted here before, but this thread is a seems like a good place to get a quick answer. Sorry if this isn't the right place.
I’m making a horror game where the player wields a single action revolver. The intention is for the player to manually fumble with the guns mechanism as part of the horror and to reflect the protag’s own ineptitude with guns. I’ve watched a few videos to get an idea of the mechanisms of a single actions and thought I’d double check here. Picrel is the planning for the code. The parts highlighted in green are the parts I’m asking for some feedback on. Basically what do you guys think would happen in each instance? I don’t have a gun on hand to test with.

Thanks a bunch :)

getting my gp100 today or tomorrow depending on when my FFL has it ready. Of course the ammo I ordered won't be here until Monday. I hope I didn't waste my money, since it was my first gun impulse purchase.

>>64248908
>If Half Cocked,
I don't have a single action revolver but I do have a DA/SA with a half cock. That one doesn't let me pull the trigger (no additional travel) and the hammer doesn't drop. Smith DA/SA has no half cock. Single action semi auto pistol has half cock, won't let me pull the trigger (no additional travel). DA/SA semi auto lets me continue pulling and cocking the hammer back until the hammer drops like if you pulled the trigger normally and will fire. It should be something like "Trigger won't move."
>loading gate
I don't have any Colt SAA or other loading gate models so I don't know how that works. I think the gate can be opened whether the hammer is down, half cocked, or full cocked, but the revolver has to be on half cock to freely rotate the cylinder? Man it's been so long since I researched those. I wouldn't be surprised if different models work in different ways.

>>64223497 (OP)
Wake me up when they have a double action

>>64248908
Loading gate can be open when ever theres no mechanism to stop it. You could have live rounds fall out if its pointed up or fired with it opened. To freely rotate the cylinder it needs to be on half cock or the second click on a single action army. If you get to the third out of 4 clicks the the cylinder cant spin freely but the hammer will remain partially back,this being the safety notch. You could code that in if you really wanna be a prick about specifics .

>>64249095
To add to this the trigger remains locked untill the hammer is fully pulled back

>>64234316
I love seeing other people post my guns on /k/

>>64223579
based

>>64223771
If you have a 12 gauge pump and a revolver you sincerely have the two most practical guns on earth
For me it’s the colt brand colt in 45 colt, I carry mine with six in the chamber in half cock like Sam Colt intended
If you like wheel guns but feel like a bit of a pussy get a ruger worked on and refinished

>>64249095
I don't know what kind of single action you have, but with all of mine the loading gate is not aligned with the cylinder chambers when the cylinder is locked. A shell could fall out as the cylinder rotates past the loading gate if you left the loading gate open and cocked the hammer with the barrel facing upwards, but not while actually firing.

>>64249567
Taylor's is offering some Uberti guns with a kinda cool quarter cock safety. I like mine.

>>64248908
Exactly what revolver would the player be using? Something like an old colt SAA functions differently than a more modern version like the ruger blackhawk with a transfer bar safety.

I got my gp 100, beautiful thing, much more aesthetic than my semi-autos. Can't wait to shoot it.

>>64250801
Nice!

>>64227545
Cirno my beloved tomboyish daughteru!

>>64250801
Nice dude, get some speed loaders to make range sessions even more fun.

>>64223497 (OP)
Is the PUG, and derringers in general worth it, or no?

>>64252141
Looks bad ass to me. Fags will say no. But they don't shoot at card table distances. I shoot shotgun hulls with my Mini at 3-7yrds. I hit them.

>>64248776
Why are you so insecure? Just enjoy being wrong.

>>64248928
It should be enjoyable. .38 special is easy and fun, .357 magnum is super versatile. You can also save your brass and get into reloading.

>>64252179
Course now I find out they stopped making that particular laser grip

>>64252141
i really like mine. it looks neat and the front profile really hides the whole thing if you throw it in the front pocket.
i dont know what you mean worth it, worth it for what? for fun, sure. for your only self defense gun, well its better than nothing and conceals really well.

>>64237562
I have a 351pd and I love it, but probably 50% of women have the strength to open the cylinder latch and 3% have the strength for the double action trigger. Recoil is low, but muzzle flash and concussion maybe high enough to cause some women to flinch. The jacketed bullets used in 22wmr means you don’t have to worry about barrel leading and the gun is very accurate.

>>64252443
You're right, worth it in just a goof off range toy

>>64252141
I haven’t shot the pug version, but the 22lr NAA that I tried was difficult to shoot past 5 yards. I chose to go with a SW 351 as it’s only 4 more oz in weight and double action. I still want to get one of longer barrel NAA revolvers eventually, but I would probably never carry it.

>>64252141
no. derringers are cope. if you want a tiny gun just get a baby browning. all of these riced-out derringers are the same size as a modern 380 automatic.

>>64250801
>much more aesthetic

why do people on 4chan feel the need to say aesthetic all the time?

>>64252560
I don't know, I think they look better than semi-autos. Maybe just because their old fashioned.

>>64248972
>I think the gate can be opened whether the hammer is down, half cocked, or full cocked, but the revolver has to be on half cock to freely rotate the cylinder
Ah I see. I imagined there was a mechanism preventing it opening unless you're on half.
>>64249095
>Loading gate can be open when ever there's no mechanism to stop it
Is there such a mechanism on a SA army? this video https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=LxBH9XC7s70 which I used as a quick reference (which I'm like 80% sure is a SA army) doesn't really go into depth about the loading gate. I also can't find anything that says the gate HAS to be closed for the rest of the gun to function.
>You could have live rounds fall out if its pointed up or fired with it opened
if the loading gate is left open that'll definitely be a feature. I like the idea of a player dropping a bullet and kicking themselves for forgetting to close the gate.
>If you get to the third out of 4 clicks ... wanna be a prick about specifics
I might if keeping the gun on a safety notch comes up in gameplay. thanks anon I thought there were only 3 positions (full, half, not). Misfires and hanging fires are something I might include so knowing about those safety notches is helpful.
>>64249098
so "Trigger won't move" like >>64248972 said? perfect. that'll be easy to code.
>>64250610
I'm unsure about the specific model but a Colt Single Action Army seems to be basically what I'm imagining. The games set in cowboy times so it seems appropriate to use THE cowboy gun as a base.

>>64248908
I've revised the code planning with all of your feedback. If there are any mistakes let me know, but I'm quite happy with it now. Thanks a ton all of you.

>>64252560
This is a very unaesthetic post, and I disapprove of your lack of aesthetics.

>>64237593
You go 22mag for better ammo reliability fool

>>64239658
Just put subsonic 38 spcl in your 357

>>64223497 (OP)
My S&W 64-8.
What I really want is a Chiappa Rhino.
I know this is a hot take on /k/ but I will take the heat.
Revolvers are the most aesthetically pleasing handguns.
More Mausers, Lugers, 1911s, Makorovs; certainly more than the soulless, brutalist Glocks and clones.
Wheelguns just have something special; I’ll accept the loss of capacity.

>>64227560
It's good, get it

>>64252822
Correct, the loading gate is just a little door that opens and closes. It it not mechanically connected to anything else in the Colt SAA. Also worth noting that the hammer has to be at half cock to eject the spent casings.

Also this:
>>64249895

These NAA revolvers are cool but their main point is being small. Reloading is going to suck, velocity is going to suck, and it being single action sucks. It's not winning in terms of price either. A Keltec P32 or Ruger LCP would be better in every way except size, so if this is the only thing you're carrying it best be because you absolutely cannot risk being caught with a gun. All that being said, the folding grip model is easily the best of the bunch unless you're forgoing size (why) and get one with large grips like the Black Widow.

>>64241354
>>READ INSTRUCTION MANUAL
>Why do they do this to us?
To dab on retards who should READ INSTRUCTION MANUAL instead of asking qtddat.

>>64249411
I really thought he was you.

>>64252141
>Is the PUG, and derringers in general worth it, or no?
Worth it for what? Self-defense? There are better options. Cowboy LARP? Do it. shooting aggressive snakes? They'd be great for that (side note: I've yet to encounter a snake scenario where I couldn't just walk past them, but should the situation ever occur that I have to kill a venomous creature or die, then I am ready).

>>64223579
>>64249495
While i personally prefer long(er) barreled revolvers the snub nose rhino is the one that draws me in. I want both but i'm not paying for both

>>64227560
>>64253350
>tfw that front sight

>>64253990
I know, they could.have at least threaded the barrel.

>>64253384
>unless you're forgoing size
Then get an LCP.

>>64253384
The top of any category (in this case "small") is always going to cost more than moderate options for the same role. You pay a premium for the 1# in anything.

As long as I know I dig the NAA revolvers... sadly it's not easy go get one here in germany
You can only find old and used models here
This is a pic of mine next to the desert eagle

I just wrote to NAA asking if they have someone importing their guns or if maybe I could import them directly from the manufacturer to Germany


I'd really love to own (and commercially sell) the Sentinel or Pug or the top break models

Picked up a colt grizzly about a week ago. I halfway expected there to be some sort of hidden flaw with the design since 90% of the content online I could find was about its bigger brother, the kodiak, despite that it did quite well on my last range trip. The thing is hefty with its full lug, unfluted cylinder, and steel construction but manages to feel well balanced in the hand and does a good job of taming recoil. The porting on the barrel is neat, and I observed it consistently shooting jets of flame to the sides when firing 357 on the hotter end of the spectrum, but I have no other revolvers to really compare it to so I can't say how effective it is in reducing muzzle flip. I briefly thought about replacing the front sight with a fiber optic but after seeing how much soot was on it due to the porting after my range trip perhaps the simple orange post that it comes with really is the best option. I found myself liking the rubber grips that came with it better than I originally thought I would, though I questions their effectiveness in reducing felt recoil due to the exposed backstrap always being in contact with your hand. Whatever the case, I have some HRV grips on the way, but that's more due to my irrational hatred of finger grooves and own my aesthetic preference than any flaw with the grip itself.

About the only negative thing I have to say about it is the fact that there's a slight bend in the ejector rod that's observable only when you spin the cylinder. I suppose I could send it back to colt for that but I just can't be bothered when it's a purely cosmetic defect that I have to go out of my way to even see in the first place, ejection was smooth as silk no matter what I fired.

Picked up a colt grizzly about a week ago. I halfway expected there to be some sort of hidden flaw with the design since 90% of the content online I could find was about its bigger brother, the kodiak, despite that it did quite well on my last range trip. The thing is hefty with its full lug, unfluted cylinder, and steel construction but manages to feel well balanced in the hand and does a good job of taming recoil. The porting on the barrel is neat, and I observed it consistently shooting jets of flame to the sides when firing 357 on the hotter end of the spectrum, however I have no other revolvers to really compare it to so I can't say how effective it is in reducing muzzle flip. I briefly thought about replacing the front sight with a fiber optic but after seeing how much soot was on it due to the porting after my range trip perhaps the simple orange post that it comes with really is the best option. I found myself liking the rubber grips that came with it better than I originally thought I would, though I questions their effectiveness in reducing felt recoil due to the exposed backstrap of the frame always being in contact with your hand. Whatever the case, I have some HRV grips on the way, but that's more due to my irrational hatred of finger grooves and own my aesthetic preference than any flaw with the grip itself.

About the only negative thing I have to say about it is the fact that there's a slight bend in the ejector rod that's observable only when you spin the cylinder. I suppose I could send it back to colt for that but I just can't be bothered when it's a purely cosmetic defect that I have to go out of my way to even see in the first place, ejection was smooth as silk when I was actually shooting the thing.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

>>64258308
The porting has an effect. The lighter and faster bullet your firing the more pronounced it’ll be.. it won’t work as well with heavy hardcast.. but in 357 the weight of the gun is probably a bigger determining factor in felt recoil than porting. 454 casull. 460 xvr and 500 are where porting and brakes really show a very noticeable difference in my opinion..

I want to get a Kodiak one of these days, but the slab cylinder grizzled is pretty cool. Congrats on the gun anon.

>>64258136
The appeal of the NAA mini revolver has a similar kind, but inverted appeal of the desert eagle

>>64258284
haha i saw that

>>64258393
What was it?

>>64223497 (OP)
Will it fit better in your ass without a trigger guard?

>>64223728
>Detonics made a revolver
How did I never know about this?

>>64258308
Did you have to fuck with the rear sight? Mine would not stay set no matter how tight the set screw was, have the Anaconda here >>64251801 had to replace with a Wilson rear and everything is good now. I 100% agree with the grips, they accentuate recoil instead of reduce it, I have a set of Pachmayr Grippers on mine now and it’s a massive reduction in recoil, having the grip fully enclosed.

>>64258316
The Kodiak is probably one of the better factory .44mags but I just can’t get over the slab side cylinder, looks great on Rugers, not so sure about it on Colts.

>>64258308
OP here, showing up with a working Colt on a board usually dominated by S&W and Ruger is such a power move. Nice gun BTW.

>>64227560
Being a lockcuck is crazy work

>>64253925
I have a couple small revolvers but I don’t really take them out too often, i have an old steel frame Taurus 85 .38 Special I use as a backup sometimes. I dig full size or long barrel revolvers, the snub nose Rhino does look nice though.

>>64258911
>Detonics made a revolver
Technically they didn't. That version of Detonics went under and the revolver was never made.

>>64262063
Is that a s& w 29? That's nice, I kinda regret getting an Anaconda over it.

>>64264613
>I kinda regret getting an Anaconda over it.
I'mnot the guy you're replying to, but why regret it? They are both highly sought-after.

>>64264630
It really just boils down the cylinder release, I prefer the s&w push to colts pull

>>64264718
I should say I had both of them available at the time and choose the anaconda

>>64264718
>I prefer the s&w push to colts pull
Fair enough.

>>64264613
They’re not any better, and the Anaconda has a better DA and SA, in fact I prefer Redhawks for shooting over S&Ws, they’re just nice to look at, but again, the Anaconda has nicer finishing.

>>64266205
You're smoking rocks if you think colts have smoother actions than smiths

>>64266672
NTA, but Colt's King Cobra, Python, and Anaconda line were much nicer than their Grizzly and Kodiak line. Colt used to be a great company before they decided to focus on MIL/LEO contracts and suffered multiple bankruptcies because of it (governments give companies huge contracts but never pay in a timely manner). After the bankruptcies, there was a drop in QA and QC, and that's how we got the shitty Colt.

>>64264613
It’s a S&W Model 29-2, arguably the -1 and -2 are the most sought after. The first Model 29 had some issues with the frames cracking after a while and the -2 was the last model with the pinned barrel and recessed cylinder. I wouldn’t mind an Anaconda either but I got this specific Model 29 because at the time I was absolutely infatuated with Martin Scorsese's Taxi Driver and Travis (Robert De Niro) used a Model 29 with the same 8 3/8” barrel. You have no idea how excited I was when I saw this at the gun store I frequent, absolutely one of my favorite purchases.

>>64266672
Smith and Wessons are nothing to write home about, just take pictures of, really all they’re good for.

Question for the wheelgun thread: Was the S&W Governor any good? I had a friend who loved his Taurus Judge; he'd put .45 LC for home defense and sometimes carry rat-shot .45 LC while hiking in case a venomous snake approached him.

>>64268363
Never gotten to try it, but from what I’ve heard it’s pretty much the same except it costs a bit more, and for that premium you can run 45acp in moonclips in it along with 45lc, and 410.

Should be able to pick up my NAA mini today.

>>64269276
Which one did you get?

>>64268363
I would use Federal handgun 000 buckshot.
It puts more holes in the target per trigger pull and makes decent groups at defensive distances.
All handguns are poor at putting threats down. More holes are better.

>>64268380
The benefit of the S&W Governor was that it was cut for moon clips, and it held 6 rounds rather than 5. The benefit of the Taurus Judge was that you could get a lightweight polymer version or a heavier version that could also take .454 Casull. Despite the differences in features, I'm just worried about reliability; new S&W prioritizes the Performance Center guns, while old S&W tried to make all their guns great.

>>64270542
Classic .22LR with a 1.25" barrel

Just got my first revolver, a used GP 100. I got some snap caps for it and have just been fucking around. I opened it up and found that one of the snapcaps is REALLY chewed up, like the rim is gone, it didn't even come out cause the ejector had nothing to grab on. What causes this? What is it even called? I figure I'd have to send this in to get fixed right?

>>64272266
Yikes

>>64274553
I'm new to revolvers, any insight?

>>64272266
glad I bought a new one, holy shit

>>64274584
Some retard was probably spin slamming it closed and bent the cylinder rod and/or crane. The extractor also looks a little fucky.

>>64274919
Is that something I can fix on my own or do I have to send it off? I've fired live rounds through it with no problem, is this going to become an issue?

>>64274919
>slamming it closed
This only matters in crappy revolvers.

>>64272266
Is your revolver still shooting real ammo fine? It looks like a regular case of shitty A-Zoom snapcaps to me. I've gone through a few sets of those in my time because the impact of the firing pin will break the rims off with use, and some guns wear them out faster than others.

>>64275746
> I've gone through a few sets of those in my time because the impact of the firing pin will break the rims off with use, and some guns wear them out faster than others
I haven't put a ton of ammo through it but I have fired about a box through it and nothing blew up on me. If it's just the impact of the firing pin breaking off the rims, why just that one cap though?

are snap caps even needed for revolvers? The manual states dry firing is okay, is it not?

>>64275769
I buy snap caps for all my guns, it's a personal training thing. To me, my guns are never unloaded, so I always double and triple check that I have a snap cap in there, not real ammo, before I fuck around with it. I also like them for malfunction drills and reload drills.

>>64275751
I wish I could tell you. The two I have left here are different colors, but they both came in the last pack I bought years ago. The one on the right is starting to have the rim crack off, but the left one is fine. I gave up on normal snap caps and started using brass with rubber packed into the primer pocket and it has been much better, so I would try loading up your revolver with spent brass and dry firing it for a while. If the brass gets that mangled, it's a gun problem, and if it doesn't, then it was a snap cap issue.

>>64275789
Thanks, I'll try that.

>>64275751
They make those snap caps out of the cheapest shit metal they can get. That one probably came out of a batch they got a discount on because it was so shitty someone else rejected it.

Woot my grips showed up just before the bump limit. Something about the contrast between the dark wood and silvery stainless teel tickles my brain. Also, despite being out for more than a year at this point my grizzly's serial number is just below 5000, I don't think they're selling many of these.

>>64259013
I noticed the rear sight was loose after shooting it but I can't say how tight it was beforehand. If it does come loose again I'll probably be getting a wilson rear sight as well. Ridiculous that a gun this expensive uses a set screw to maintain the windage setting, even something far cheaper like my ruger blackhawk has a better designed rear sight.

>>64258316
>>64259512
Thanks

>>64247839
>1875
WINNINGTON CHADS RISE UP

>>64232113
>>64232447
>>64247964
SAMEFAG
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nu-/k/ is the worst

>>64259604
thanks kind of sick but its kind of ugly compared to this handsome beast

>>64278911
>SAMEFAG
Whatever helps you cope, my man.

>>64279489
Well, there basically only 3 guys itt, so he had good odds.

>>64278218
>64259013 I noticed the rear sight was loose after shooting it but I can't say how tight it was beforehand. If it does come loose again I'll probably be getting a wilson rear sight as well. Ridiculous that a gun this expensive uses a set screw to maintain the windage setting, even something far cheaper like my ruger blackhawk has a better designed rear sight.

Yeah I partially agree it is always annoying to have to change out parts but that’s the fun of new guns, getting to change out and customize stuff like the grips on your Grizzly. The Wilsons are a plain improvement anyways, the light bars are slightly larger on either side of the front sight on the Wilson and the notching on the rear will match how the front is serrated makes ranging and fine adjustments much easier, you can literally just count the serrations.

>>64279509
My comment is in disagreement with the other two. His odds were 0.

>>64279509
Lies, there’s only you and me

>>64279542
Also a lie, it's just you. You have to let us go, anon. The cash wasn't your fault.

>>64223513
Top break anything immediately makes it cool

>>64227948
What's the watchband.

>>64280317
That’s exactly what I’d tell myself if I wanted to make me believe it. I can’t fool me anon!

What do you guys think of the kimber k6s?

>>64280622
Am I still drunk? I don't remember posting this.

>>64280845
>Am I still drunk?
Okay, maybe the crash was your fault, but you still should let go. Move on.

Got a cimmaron pistolero SAA clone.
It's a really nice gun, but I've had such a headache with the ammunition.
>got some cowboy action loads, run through the gun completely fine, smooth as butter
>decide to try some different brands
>casings scrape up against the backplate, so much that it got stuck up with live rounds
>5 stressful buttclenching minutes later I can rotate/scrape the cylinder enough to eject the rounds
>take it down to a gunsmith to get the backplate and firing pin entrance looked at
>they of course charge too much and take days to get to mine.
>take it back and try it with the empty casings
>not getting stuck up so it's a bit better, but the backplate and firingpin
-seal still scraping/scratching the casings
With two different brands of 45 ammo. It pissed me off how different the rounds were. Now every time I go out to buy ammo for it I'm going to have to bring the gun along to check it with the clerk.
I Know if I take it back to the smith they are just going to tell me "hurr durr, only keep using the ammo you know works!"
Either the smith botched, hammering and sanding the backplate, or I just got really unlucky with two different brands of shitty 45.
Going to go to the store soon and check as many cowboy actionbrands as I can with the clerk to see if it's actually an ammunition issue or if the smith was a hack.

>>64283483
I have a ruger blackhawk that had the same issue. I was able to resolve it by polishing the upper part of the backplate near where the firing pin hole is with some fine sandpaper and now it can cycle every brand of ammo I have. Just be sure to clean the firing pin channel of any material that gets in there before trying to shoot it again. It seems like some brands of ammo have slightly thicker rims than others leading to binding against the backplate.

>>64280752
Just bought the K6S DC. Havent shot it yet but I love it.

>>64283483
Does this happen randomly or guaranteed every round on said brand? Because I have a S&W that does the same thing with Remington, but since .38 went retarded considering what it used to cost, I can't say I've tried anything else.

>>64283566
thanks anon.
yeah that's what I'll probably end up doing, just worried about overdoing it and ending up with some kind of other issue regarding sealing or rounds moving too much.
Slow and steady until the problem rounds no longer scrape/drag.
I'm a newfag so I went to the smith like a loser first because I wanted to air on the side of caution before jacking around with anything myself. He only sorta fixed the problem and took a chomp out of my wallet in the process, so at least I learned a lesson from that.

>>64283834
I had three brands of ammo,
it was random, but some ended up binding more often than others from what I found.
like the other anon said it's probably just slight casing size differences between brands + gun with an overly tight tolerance.

Is there any way to determine what ammo will do it without firing them? How much clearance should there be been the the ammo and the back plate of the revolver? Just enough to see light through

>>64283883
Holy shit my S&W might not be fucked after all, anon. Thanks. I got it years ago when the surplus police ones were being imported that no one seemed to have an exact pin on the origin of. Like, when Model 10 Anon was posting a lot. That reminds me, I wish I knew where that came from so I could update my gun map.

>>64283921
I'm still that newfag from earlier, so take what I said with a grain of salt. Just in my case specifically with my cimmaron pistolero I've had varying results with different ammo. me firing some higher grain 45 rounds than cowboy action may have also put a bit of stress on the system and played a bit of a factor (though how much is probably up for debate.) definitely going to avoid doing that from now on and stick with cowboy loads.

Also secondary question for any anons. Is there a good place to get 45 blanks/wax rounds? or do I really have to buy and self load the
primers/wax into the casings all by myself? of course with SAA stuff I want to practice quickdraw times with a shot-timer and a balloon, and doing that with actual rounds is dangerous and expensive. any suggestions?

>>64280533
>/wbg/

>>64283855
>just worried about overdoing it and ending up with some kind of other issue regarding sealing or rounds moving too much.
If you can, load the cylinder with ammo and shine a light through the other side of the cylinder to see precisely where the rounds are binding up against the backplate, or check the backplate for tell tale signs of brass scraping against it. Then just focus on those areas with fine sandpaper until those surfaces are very smooth to the touch. Again, use fine sandpaper so you remove as little material as possible when polishing. Pretty hard to fuck up.

>>64283855
>>64283952
>>64284006
There's an old machinist's trick - paint up the back of your brass and the face around the firing pin with Sharpie. Wait for it to dry. Then cycle the gun. It'll polish off the parts where it's biding up. Lets you know both where it's hitting your brass and what parts of the gun need cleanup. If only one or two rounds have issues, swap them around and see if different rounds in the same cylinder slot have problems, or it's those specific bullets. Either way you'll get a much better idea of what's going on.

>>64223497 (OP)
I'm about to buy my first wheelgun next week, a used Ruger GP100. Is there anything I should look for when inspecting it?

>>64286293
Look up videos on how to check for timing issues and light strikes. Check if the cylinder wobbles when spun while it is open, that is a sign the cylinder has been slammed shut too hard and the shaft is bent. Also look for extreme wear or unusual marks on the cylinder locking cuts or the timing star on the back of the ejector.

>>64283483
It sounds like there also could be an issue with the cylinder bores sticking. With the low pressure cowboy loads, the cases won’t expand much and stick. When you are shooting the higher pressure loads, the cases are sticking and can’t slide back forward after firing. This causes back of the case to be held back against the back plate and bind. Thoroughly clean the bores to remove grit and then check the surface roughness. You might need to sand or polish the bores.