Thread 64227891

Dichrolam edition

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Monthly pistol qual, regulation B8, make sure when you print it it's sized correctly.
Printable target: https://files.catbox.moe/5ctlkk.jpg
Course of Fire: https://files.catbox.moe/u06i4z.jpg

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ok

Bought the Rugged Obsidian 9 today for my Berretta.
Now I wait patiently like a good boy who obeys the laws.
Is all 147 grain subsonic?
What about 147 grain +p+(all 147 grain basically) or do I need subsonic specifically?

DEAL ALART $350 BERETS* **
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1125255031

*needs barrel and mags
**comment says they have many and condition may not be same as pictured

>>64227926
>just needs a barrel

Do I really need another beretta

I need more ammo

>>64227891 (OP)
If I shoot my G17 & PDP side by side the PDP is noticeably snappier. I know how to shoot doubles at 25yds so it's not a skill issue, fuck you. Should I get a 15lb recoil spring and brass shit for the PDP or give up on it and just shoot the 17

>>64227923
>Is all 147 grain subsonic?
It should be out of a handgun HOWEVER the ones NOT labeled as being subsonic like the speer 147gr are noticeably louder than ammo labeled as being subsonic in my experience. My favorite ammo for shooting suppressed is 150gr federal syntech it sounds great and I get slightly less gas to the face.

>>64227947
This is a universal complaint about the PDP

>>64227947
I think Joel Park/Nick Young have said that a lower poundage recoil spring goes a long way towards making the PDP less snappy, but OTOH Hwansik Kim said it’ll still always be a bit more forceful than a Glock.

You should buy all of the aftermarket PDP stuff and experiment with it for the benefit of /hg/, though. We’re scientists, here.

>>64227891 (OP)
>zesty grips
What a brave and creative way to tell the world you’re gay.

USPSA match went... worse than I'd hoped.

Lots of penalties. Forgot many targets, shot once with foot OOB, and missed a mandatory reload on a classifier where an extra five seconds hurts a lot. My splits are still slow, but my movement is marginally improved. At least I didn't almost have heat stroke.

I think I might want to actually eat breakfast on Match day, not just my usual of a protein bar and a cuppa. Further, I think I need to make a point of insisting on using my chance to rehearse every stage when I have it. I tend to half-ass it and get out of the way of the rest of the squad.

>>64227923
S&B 150 gr is the quietest loud I’ve shot

>>64227926
>needs barrel and mags

so, not a deal.

>>64227969
Are you happy with that Trijicon?
What optic plate are you using?
I almost bought a Holosun but I like to space my firearms purchases out a little, but I'm wondering if the Trijicon is worth the extra ~300 or whatever.
I want another couple/few microdots for my rifles and cc as well.
>>64227958
Thank you

>>64227968
I don’t shoot USPSA or anything really, but have you read Ben Stoeger’s “practical shooting reloaded”. He goes over many skills needed for competitive shooting like stage planning, how to set up your belt, etc.

It’s not super in-depth but I think it’s a good reference in taking your shooting to a dynamic match.

The ACE VR shooting simulator can also help, where it tries to simulate match conditions. You have to stage plan, do mandatory reloads, follow USPSA rules about the 180, etc

>>64227983
I have the Langdon Tactical optic cut on my gun, not the Beretta OEM cut.

The SRO is a great optic, it being circular pleases my autism. I’ve carried it, never dropped it, never had a problem. It does have a reputation of being fragile since it is. If you don’t care about where the dot is made, the Holosun 507Comp is a better deal.

>>64227967
Anon, the guy at the office that's my age and has the most kids in our age bracket regularly wears brightly colored, loud patterned shirts to work. Get over yourself.

>>64227999
It’s just a joke and a pop culture reference, autismo. Take the stick out of your ass lol.

>>64227971
Oh I'm sorry, where are you seeing <$450 Beretta 92s at this time? I don't think you could even get a turkretta cheaper

>>64227926
>Needs barrel
Please don't do this to me Bort. I don't need any more temptation to build a National Match M9.

>>64227995
Do people really get pissy about where something is made? How lomg has Holosun been around? Holosun has proven themselves in literally every market, casual, competitive, and military. What more do they have to do?

>>64228045
>>64228038
Considering a Vortex just because theyre American made tbqh I just prefer the 32moa circle dot on the Holosun I think they have better reticles especially the comp version with all of the options in circle size.
Green or Red btw
Green helps with my astigmatism and looks cooler imo but it washes out in really bright light too much.
I'll have to check it out at my local gunstore

>>64228059
>Vortex are American made
Uhh, are you sure?

>>64228059
The Sig Romeo X compact has been very nice on my astigmatism due to its blue tint (my eyes like tinted optics better) and I think they’re around 300 dollars and US “assembled”

Got this from a family friend today. Her husband was an officer in California, she asked I take the patches off and get them back to her, but I’m excited for the case. Didn’t know Pachmyer made these

>>64228075
Burris field scope on a swivel mount inside…

>>64228082
I am absolutely not former air force, or a former Burbank officer… nor was I alive in 87…. So even if she didn’t want these back I’d have been taking them off regardless. But they are some cool patches. The mossburg shotgun shield is neat.

>>64228075
That’s sick

I’m imagining it’s a spotter scope for bullseye shooting

>>64228091
Fits my smaller guns very well. Probably won’t put the 22 revolver in there, but I’ve got a 1911 that will fit right in.

>>64228091
If you could put them behind a picture frame or something to display them so they don’t end up in a junk drawer that would be nice

>>64228095
Yup. Has screw on protective caps on both ends. Gonna have an interesting time cleaning the glue off where the patches were but they all came off with no tearing, and the tolex is only lifting a tiny bit in a few spots.. but I got used to fixing that on guitar cases…. Syringe with glue, poke it through then push some into the bubble and flatten it out.

>>64228099
That’s not a bad idea. Thanks anon.

The police Olympics medal is the only one I’m worried about getting off. That looks and feels like something that Pachmyer put on, not something he put on to personalize it.

Hello /hg/ from /arg/. I want to first pay my respects to the local schizos that pissed off our troons

I am looking for a conceal carry murse the kind of fanny pack that goes over your chest. Anyone use those? I live in a hot climate where wearing a belt isn't always an option.

>>64228126
They make elastic bands so you can carry with gym shorts on.
Your pistol will be rusty as fuck after a week btw.
I mean it'll still work fine but its going to get disgusting quick.

>>64228126
Check out Hill People Gear or Vertx.

>>64228126
Just to confirm: sling, or 4-strap harness?

>>64228126
The Phlster enigma is a belt system you can wear underneath your clothes and does not require a belt

>>64228126
945 industries looks well though out, but expensive. I have no personal experience with them.

>>64228126
You could also use the AWS snack pack, but it only comes in "I swear this isn't a gun" colors.

My question: which discontinued model of handgun do you wish they would bring back into production?

>>64228236
CZ RAMI

>>64228236
Hammer fired duty pistol CZs with polymer frames.
Idk if they still make them but I heard they discontinued the CZ-p09/p07 a decade ago for striker fired versions.

>>64228236
HK P7

>>64228015
>>64227971
>>64227926

$200-300 for a barrel though, puts it near a brand new one, that comes with 2 magazines
UPC 082442884967

Where to buy something used or get a real deal on something chambered in esoteric? Can I get a deal on like a Taurus 327

>>64228283
Sure if you can find one used probably.

If I was going to shoot .327, I'd probably snag an SP101 though

>>64228236
MATEBA UNICA.. all other answers are wrong and fuck you if you don’t agree

>>64228279
https://www.ebay.com/itm/388903909946

>>64228361
You're still looking at almost $600 by the time you factor in taxes, gunbroker fees, shipping, transfer fee, etc. There are brand new M9s on gunbroker for $550-$600 currently.

>>64228399
All those things apply to an M9 you buy on Gunbroker too guy. This one starts at $350 instead of $600

>>64228409
480 with that barrel

>>64228420
link someone selling 92s cheaper than that

>>64228236
Sig 1911 TACOPS

>>64228431
lowest I see is 550 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1124719793

>>64228447
so you cant beat his price cool way to go. dont @ me with new or used idgaf about your moving goalposts

>>64228467
>magazines are free

>>64228409
>$430 for gun with tax/shipping (Going by my state's sales tax)
>Call it $50 for two new Mec-Gar magazines
>$142 for used barrel + Shipping
>Brings total to $622
>Brand new Beretta M9 with two mags $550
>$629 with tax + shipping

>>64228498
see >>64227939
it's a deal for anyone who has alot of spare beretta parts retard or someone who wishes to install a BarSto match barrel (semi fit is really easy)

Really hope someone doesn't bid over $200 for this used Taurus curve.

>>64228525
now do the one you linked. dont forget 3% credit card fee.

>>64228542
That makes a whole more sense

>>64228498
at $10 for surplus airtronics yeah they pretty much are

>>64228635
Please kindly link these $10 airtronic magazines.

>>64228526
Not to mention a threaded barrel.

>>64228059
>>64228063
Not made in America but the company is in America unlike holosun

>>64228070
Giving money to Nusig is crazy though

Soon, I'll be able to shoot again

Sunday and Lube works unpaid in lab with some stupid bacteria. At least i can listen music all day (vietnal war rock)
>>64229866
me too, also new gun soon

>>64229932
For me it was just trying to secure a little stockpile of ammo

Talk me out of buying it and throwing on a brace
It's a handgun, it belongs here

>>64229983
Get the 9mm version

>>64229842
Holosun has a team of people in Southern California. Their marketing, product, accounting and finance guys are all there.

>>64229932
What gun you looking at?

>>64230076
Savage MSR15 Recon2.0
It needs alot of it parts changed but thats fine, another 1K and its a good rifle. Buddy comes to live with me so Shadow 2 and GSP can be used when I wanna.

>>64229995
That will burn through even more money

>>64228236
I want more hammer options.
Bring back the steyr GBs, Walther p88s, S&W 2nd/3rd gens. Would also like some polymer framed options.

test

>>64230111
Its even more fun

>>64230086
Someone said you have a gun cleaner now? I also see the oil and rust preventer.
I really like the oil btw, how it’s very tacky instead of runny.

>>64228236
CZ RAMI, and make it better this time

>>64228249
I thought they merged the p09 and p07 into one abortion of an optics ready pistol that doesn't have enough slide mass to cycle reliably?

The SP-01 got discontinued. RIP.

>>64230143
Tacky oils like Coomoil can be found on fast rotating machines like chainsaws and what i learned 2 weeks ago for CNC machinses where the body needs to slide in its axis. Doing quality controll since 2 weeks and those slide oils are brutal tacky and vsicous, like 10-15x of normal gun oil. Yeah, with my incooming salary i order 400L of solvent for the gun cleaner, than the empty bottles and last label and its ready for production.

>>64228236
Smith DA pistols but modernized. Lighter, red dot, etc.

I like my px4 subcompact but I can see why they discontinued it as it's very close in size to the compact. P2000 is also cool.

>>64230248
The PX4 Subcompact is the ugliest gun I've ever seen

>>64230260
>Look it up
holy fuck that's bad

>>64228236
Steyr GB

>>64230260
>>64230288
It grows on you. Especially with the special magazine baseplates that fold down for a pinky rest

how do you get a gun like this? i know its custom but how does one even get a custom built 1911?

>>64230413
>It grows on you.
So does cancer bro

>>64230414
Find used one. I picked up a "custom" 1978 1911 for 800 and it runs like a raped ape, it was worked over by some gunsmith but there is no paperwork for it - while other 1911s from the same estate sale were from known smiths.
I regularly search gunbroker with "custom 1911 -kimber" where is searches for 1911s that have "custom" in the listing while filtering out all kimbers that call themselves custom. This will miss some things but will capture some weird custom guns


Buy Colt 1911, new or of vintage like your picture. Send to 1911 smith, you may have local ones but there are several shops.

>filed my form 4 papers yesterday
>its Sunday so the form 4 guys at the ATF probably aren't even at work
Fuck

>>64230448
look at this, I shouldn't post it since I'm actually interested in it. A huge negative would be if the barrel is not ramped, the lack of chamber support with 10mm prevents you from shooting higher power ammo. But I think standard 180 gr 1200FPS loads should be fine

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1125264444

>>64227923
>>64227969
S&B 150s are my goto for factory subs

>>64227923
>>64227969
>>64230502
Federal Syntech 150 are quieter, and HUSH/Quiet 165gr are the best performers in my pistols and MP5 by a noticeable margin.
The S&B "Tactical sub sonic" 150 are actually pretty loud, on par with fiocchi 147s

>>64230502
Man i miss handloading, also pic related

New gun day for me today. Pretty excited for this one. Used, got it for 1300$ but it came with a lot of extras.. Came with a Redding die set. 98 handloaded rounds, 118 Hornady factory 460 rounds, 40 rounds of Magtech factory 454 casull, 4 rounds of Barnes factory 454, 30 pieces of 454 brass fired, and 38 pieces of 460 brass fired, 2000 large pistol magnum primers, and a box of 50 Hornady ftx bullets in .452 for 454 or 460.

So I’m fucking thrilled. The 2000 large pistol magnum primers primers are weird since 460 specs large rifle. But I have large rifle magnum primers and I’m just about out of large pistol mag primers. So that works for me.

>>64230663
Was originally saving for a lever action, but this was worth putting that off for. It completes my “commercially common big bore collection”. 357, 44, 454, 460, and 500.

>>64230667
Gonna need to start figuring out how to better fit this stuff….

>>64230670
whoops

>>64230667
>2000 large pistol magnum primers
treasure
congratulations, anon

>>64230523
What’s that schmidt?

>>64230681
Not sure why they’re so hard to find right now…. Never thought the large rifle magnums would be more available…

>>64230674
please tell me you own a bandolier and a big cowboy hat

>>64230689
I think that press is for production in countries with more handwork. With the right adapter it would be able to make ammo but why spend around 2K € when you get similar style for around 300€. I gonna order a budget reloading press in autumn and in spring something more autistic

>>64230716
Cross chest holster for the redhawk and Alaskan. The only holster I’ve found that the BFR fits in with the brake is an old all leather makita drill holster. Have debated a cowboy hat but currently only have a pith helmet.

Ordered a Holosun 507c with a green dot in burned bronze off Amazon.
Now I just wait patiently for Beretta to ship my adapter plate.
Any day now.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1116297172

>very excellent condition
>early production with tall dovetailed front sight (quickly changed to integral front and low rear)
>no flute on top of slide
>matching box and target
This seems WAYYY cheap. Like this should be near $2,000? $1,600 is fair for any late production model with box but this one is a bit special

dumb nigger here.
Looking to replace my 226 for CC because my hands are small. Looking for a DA/SA decocker only model pistol that could fit RMR and have co-witness irons.

Anything come to mind?

>>64231110
PX-4 Compact

>>64231149
I've looked at the storm and 92 but rather not have safety and be able to have backup irons

>>64227891 (OP)

Don't know where else to ask, what brand of metal guide rods (NDZ, Cajun, CZ) are actually compatible with CZ-75 Compact/P01/PCR flat recoil springs?

CZ says to use the round springs, but on some forums people say they are using the flat springs without any problems.

>>64231173
I JUST POSTED GUNS WITH BACK UP IRONS AND ARE DECOCKER ONLY

are you the same guy from earlier

>>64227947
No don’t give up on it. Go with either zr tactical Ultra Mass/Brass guide rod with 17lb spring or zr tactical V SPEC guide rod. The 15lb can have reliability issues with certain ammo like Blazer. Brass backstrap will help but isn’t necessary imo.

Has anyone tried the 50gr 9mm +P ammo from Liberty Ammunition? I'm tempted to try it as a new defensive round option but I never hear anyone recommend it so it may be shite

>>64231110
E2 grip. P226 is fine.

>>64231326
meme rounds, don't bother

>>64230414
build what you want

>>64231447
What I want is a handgun that fires rounds that actually will blow a man's head clean off

qual-9-25
219 with my 1911 in 45acp. Range only goes out to 50ft so I scored stage 1 as if everything was in the next ring out.

>>64231490
Would not have qualified in 460, but did get to try some rounds through it, this was 5 shooting double action with 1 miss at 50 ft. Came close to qualifying with it with 45lc but no dice. Probably gonna try that again next weekend. Gun shot great though. Too many other people also shooting to run more than a handful of rounds of 460 through it.

>>64231490
Nice!
Sweet color on that piece

>>64231469
I… I may have some options for you anon…

10 points shy of passing. I'll leave my badge when I go.

>>64231707
I count 252. Isn't 200 a passing score?

>>64231715
Well, shit. You have no idea how much that brightened my evening.

>>64231715
yeah 200 is a passing score and a eye opener since FBI agents weren't even able to get 200 when armed with 10mm autos >>64231544

>>64231721
Add to that the dispersion is mostly vertical, which a torso also is. Those are all solid center mass hit, even the farthest out. Your widest shots side to side are all within the 9 ring's diameter.

I wish to collect and train with weapons beyond what is necessary but the fucking liberals closed every non-club outdoor shooting space within a 3 hour drive

>>64230869
You or anyone here grabbing this? I don't wanna bid any of you up.

>>64231469
>>>64231447 (You)
>What I want is a handgun that fires rounds that actually will blow a man's head clean off

blow it clean off and burn it up at the same time

>>64231964
try again

>>64231469
i've got just the thing for you

Is it true revolvers take less maintenance?

>>64232062
>Is it true revolvers take less maintenance?
Not at all. Still need to clean them, and they still need to be lubed. And if / when something goes wrong with them, they're far more complicated than a semi auto.

>>64232062
Not exactly. You can probably neglect them more than an autoloader but if you are firing regularly they still need regular maintenance as stated by the Anon above

How long does it take Beretta to ship something?

>>64231328
E2 grip is insanely gay looking

Anybody here have a .460 Rowland? I traded for a Glock 21 last week and I want to convert it.

>>64232136
About 3-4 pasta

>>64232136
I ordered a threaded 92 barrel and it got to my house in like a day. It was borderline scary fast

>>64232150
I keep debating ordering one of the lc carbines converted to it. But I don’t own any 460 Rowland guns yet

>>64232062
Nope. Keep your revolver extremely clean so all the parts run smoothly. The mechanism is more complex than the average autoloader and there are more things to jam from dirt.

Autoloaders need good ammo, revolvers need good owners. "Failure to clean" is the most common revolver malfunction.

>>64230869
>>64231927
Not me. Damn somebody got one HECK of a deal. Holy smokes I almost wish I didn't have a P88 I would have bid that up quite a bit more

>>64232062
Literally the opposite.

What are y’all watching tonight?

>>64232406
Hogan's Heroes on Prime.

>>64232406
Football because I'm a straight American man

>>64232406
S2 Underground on Youtube

>>64228236
Mateba or the hi power

newbie here

what are must dos and dont dos my first visit on the range

>>64232604
Unless you're going to an outdoor range, you'll probably have to watch a gun safety video before you sign a waiver. Just pay attention to the video.

>>64232604
Do ask the range what their rules are. Don’t take your gun out until you know what the rules are.

>>64232604
Wave your weapons around wildly and fire them in all directions

>>64232604
Read and follow the rules of the particular range you go to
Some places have weird rules and will ban things you'd assume are ok, like drawing from holster or rapid fire.
In general, point guns downrange, a habit I developed from a hot/cold range is to just always remove magazine and lock back slide, or leave revolver with open empty cylinder if I put a gun aside.
Be mindful about what is behind the paper target, don't shoot the floor or ceiling indoors (it might be behind the target), or above the backstop outdoors.

>>64232406
The Simpsons season 2

>>64232406
Alien Earth

not that bad for a Alien movie after 3

>>64228236
Just one more run of Coonan

>>64232819
This
I really wish I could have picked one up.

>>64232757
Bort, you fuck. Clear framed p2000
https://www.proxibid.com/Heckler-Koch-P2000/lotInformation/95447620

>>64232802
fucking love Alien3

bros my M9A4 is so fun to shoot that I might try carrying it

>>64232638
The indoor range I go to with my dad actually told him at one point that the bullets were supposed to hit the (concrete) floor before hitting the bullet trap so they wouldn't be going too fast. Reasonably sure that's horseshit and just something they tell people so they're less likely to hit the pulleys/hangers and the ceiling which is less bullet resistant than the floor. Though they could still hit the ceiling after hitting the floor if the target is close enough