Thread 64239290

>>64239290 (OP)
Hopefully to manufacture and not just throwing money in shitholes like the US or //-

That was fast, 1 month between proposal and approval.

Estonia and Hungary are getting the most money

poland got as much as belgium

>>64239294
watch them pocket half the money like they did for every single military procurement post 2004

>>64239313
Makes sense that the Eastern European countries get the most.
Except Hungary, what the fuck

>>64239695
Hungary keeps blocking various EU votes, recently they are blocking the renewal of russian sanctions. The EU essentially has to bribe them into following along until they can work around requiring unanimous votes.

>>64239290 (OP)
/k/ hates Poland tho

>>64239695
There's a very big chance that Orban's getting the boot next year. Wouldn't be surprised the Germans would want their protectorate fully funded before that happens.
Plus you can label it as a bribe to orban.

>>64239313
Spain and italy's should go to Finland t b h
Hungary should get the serb treatment.

>>64239313
>Bulgaria joining the Euro on January 1st.
>Bulgaria also "coincidentally" getting a metric fuckton of defense investments from other EU countries right now.
The EU uses the carrot a lot more than people realize.

>>64239695
>Except Hungary, what the fuck
they will spend the money on german KF41 development so it's ok

>>64239290 (OP)
There is a condition that anything bought with that fund must be a minimum 65% EU made, so it cannot be used to just buy more US / non-EU weapons. Germany will most likely benefit the most, as they have a lot of military companies, especially Rheinmetall that will get a lot of new ordered from that fund.
>>64239715
Hungary and Orban are openly parroting anti-western propaganda and suck off Russia 24/7, but when it comes to economic relations they are working very closely with Germany. They even have their own Rheinmetall fabs in Hungary for IFV / tank production. probably why they got so much (majority will be spent on Rheinmetall orders). Still funny af and kinda insulting they got so much, while Romania that is larger and more prone to Russian aggression gets the same amount.

>>64239313
>pay money/take loans to eu instead of investing it in defence yourself
>end up degrading your defense because some faceless commissar decided that your country gets less than it paid in

Typical eu insanity.

>>64239290 (OP)
Rather a pole die then me.

>>64239313
>Estonia and Hungary are getting the most money
>Estonia getting 2.6B, between Bulgaria and Slovakia
>Hungary getting 16.2B, same as France and less than Romania

>poland got as much as belgium
>Belgium gets 8.3B
>Poland getting 43.7B, nearly thrice what Hungary is getting and over five times what Belgium got
Is there some joke I'm not getting here, or are you completely illiterate?

>>64239313
France, Italy, Poland and Spain all get something but Germany gets nothing ?
And then you have retards like here >>64239821 still complaining saying Germany will benefit the most. I would hope Germany gets some benefits since they don’t get any money directly

>>64239726
This site absolutely adores poles, mostly because of rootless americans that view poland as the last bastion of the aryan white race. I don't, i think they're vulgar, hedonistic assholes and just one step above full fledged slavs.

>>64239806
I really hope this shithole doesn't return the draft. Most of our bases are used to house migrants anyway.

>>64239969
Ah one of the British strategies

>>64239290 (OP)
Do we Germans have to GIB again?

>>64239920
you don't understand that countries with bigger defense (to gdp %) spending are getting more money according to SAFE rules

>>64239928
this is a LOAN

EU debt has higher borrowing cost than germanys because Italy/grecce is in the EU

>>64240076
You are lending money to countries that will buy weapons made in your country. It's basically the same as MediaMarkt selling you a new TV with installments.

>>64239937
>hedonistic
now i know you never met a Polish person in your life

>>64240208
They're constantly drunk and/or on drugs, their porn and escort industry rivals russia and the czech republic, and poland is a trendy attraction for youngsters due to the vast number of night clubs and rave parties. They are hedonistic.

>>64240242
Yes, the hedonism of ikea. I blame america for teaching them to live so well too cumrag.

>>64240076
>>>we
I, Hans Wurst, of bavaria oblast, also think that we should stop supporting our allies defences and that we should leave communist EU and warmonger Nato

>>64240350
i mean there are pictures like this floating on german social media

>>64240380
This is based though ?

>>64240447
so /k/ hates poland?

>>64240380
>Pictures with kyrillic writing are floating on german social media
Are poles really this gullible?

>>64240467
Russians sure hope so

>>64240380
>pics with "poland will want le hecking lviv and will backstab xaxa" float early during the war
>never happens, nothing indicates that it would, people just forget about it
>"so eee ukraine and germany will partition poland xaxa"
Wow, same shit different flavor.

>>64240242
Calm down, Dennis.

>>64240467
On other boards they are.

>>64240467
all polaks are gullible and just eat up propaganda

>>64240380
>i mean there are pictures like this floating on german social media
Posted by no doubt pure brahmin stock germans kek
those lulzy russian maps never stop being funny
lmao

>>64240467
>>Pictures with kyrillic writing are floating on german social media
>Are poles really this gullible?
>>64240519
>On other boards they are.
With the exception of grotard pretty much most of them are shills, and not exactly of the smart kind

>>64240554
grottard is posting under memeflag therefore is a case for him not being a pole

>>64240554
Member that time he forgot his vpn? I member.

>>64240571
those events happen quite regulary

>>64240554
That picture is from Kiyv though. It's the foot bridge that s missile hit the hillside way below when general supermegadeathkillerdoomsdayatomicnapalm or whatever pissed away most of Russia's missile stockpile on terror bombing.

>>64239313
greece not even a billion?

is this a joke?

>>64240596
6day work week hits different. The populace generally regrets the feeling that the bailout left in them and is now compensating a bit.

>>64239806
I want to make enough children with her to man the entire eastern flank twice

>>64240592
it's not about the pic, rather that Poles usually don't have their PC's set to cyrillic

>>64240380
I trust the man behind this imagine, Hanzovich Germanski Aryanov, this is a real German born and bred in Berlin Oblast.
Da.

>>64239829
name 1 case where that applies

>>64239726
The only people I see talking shit about poles are russian sand Southern Europeans, likely out of jealous because they got their shit together.

>>64240467
Poles are always looking for excuses to seethe about germany. Their biggest party is the World record holder for kraut induced seethe

>>64241112
i wonder why poles might be mad at germans

>>64241112
even that is more cynical populism than actual seethe because they don't even believe that shit themselves, it's just a way to grab retarded boomer votes, kinda similar like happened in the UK with brexit
If they actually believed it they wouldn't haul their asses in kraut cars kek

>>64239726
you again?

>>64239313
>spain
>portugal
those fuckers endlessly complain about having to even know eastern europe exists, let alone contribute anything to collective defense*, so why are they getting defense loans? they'll just spend them on gibs for moroccans.

* I can't necessarily fault them for not giving a fuck, russia has never been a direct threat to them and never will be, and there are no real conventional threats they can face so long as the rest of Europe exists in any civilized state. they've got much more pressing issues to think about

>>64239829
>what you pay in is what you get out
that's not how the EU works. the EU controls its own currency, which means it can create money out of thin air just like the US government does when it hikes defense spending.

>>64239726
Indeed. Its east Germany, not Pooooland. Danzig, Breslau und Stettin sind Deutsche Stätte wie Berlin.

>>64239313
Fucking stupid that Finland only got 1bil when we need to overhaul our armored troops right fucking now.

>>64239726
>>64243254

>>64240695
Even if he turned his Polish flag on you can see he mentions cuckolding therefore he's russian. It's always cuckold or something about gay sex and dicks. It's like their signature.

>>64243235
and buy in kraut markets

>>64243315
Danzig, Breslau und Stettin, sind nich Türkische Stätte wie Berlin

>>64243303
Portugal has been investing in defense lately, including getting new jet fighters, frigates and an aircraft carrier for drones and lighter aircraft to protect its massive territorial waters. They are also building a munitions factory apparently

>>64240596
they have the best airforce in europe
the absolute worst navy and not 3 and whever they decide to sign for a forth FDI wont change this they let their navy rot(having said that their sub fleet is top notch )
somewhat decent sf
and as far as i remember their army in general has left to die alone and depressed they still use m1113s for fuck sake...

last rumor about greece switching to south korea instead of france while i wanted to be true cause the frogs absolutely deserve everything that is gonna come to them it probably just that..rumors

>>64239290 (OP)
Poland is an actual paper tiger, up there with Botswana. Who cares.

Man this thread reeks of sewage and dried up street turds for some reason

>>64239290 (OP)
Damn, American MIC just came after reading those news.

>>64243982
At least they'll have to manufacture it in the EU. (If the US MIC is eligible at all, which I doubt)

>>64243531
correction
yes they do have the best airforce
in fact i think by now they have the most airframes with aesa on them
however their stupid decision of not having air tankers is strange to me....
their navy i agree if you take out the subs its basicly pretty old
their army is beyond shit

>>64243531
Frogs made a big stink about Turkey on behalf of Greece

>>64240076
It's a LOAN...
>>64240138
Also, THIS!!!

>>64240242
>their porn and escort industry rivals russia and the czech republic,
Not even close, tf are you talking about???

>>64240380
Is that an R in the middle of that first Cyrillic word? I don't know what it means, but I know that there is no R in the Cyrillic alphabet; theirs looks like a P. I'm a little suspicious of that "u" as well.

>>64240465
Any sane human being does. "Christ of nations" my ass, you people are low IQ and full of yourselves just like the israelis

>>64244327
they gave the ok to sell meteors tu turkey

marcon is literally the first french president that favors turkey
which shouldnt be a suprise to nobody given the liberals of europe are a total failure

>>64240242
>Most major cities are either planning to implement alcohol prohibition or have done so with popular support
>hedonistic nation
Yep for sure buddy

>>64239294
the US is better than Europe in literally every way lol

>>64239806
Romania and Hungary aren't in the Euro yet and Poland isn't even trying to adopt it at the moment.

>>64243334
you can loan the rest of it from estonia

>>64239290 (OP)
Perfect timing. Give them double if you want to win this upcoming war. Would love to see Poland become a powerhouse in drone manufacturing

>>64245874
Double is not enough for that, Poland would need at least 10 times that to do anything worth while

>>64239727
how is that possible. does hungary even have functional elections anymore? what is stopping a gopnik like orban from sending in muscle to forcefully stuff the ballot boxes. like his soul mates did in georgia last time

>>64245880
80 billion euros would create a fuck load of drone - they can manufacture things cheap there

The level of cope in these threads is absolutely hilarious

>>64239726
we hate you inbred swamp pajeets even more

>>64245802
The Dutch orange dress cords are coo

>>64240076
yes denis. you WILL pay for the orderly extermination of Rusland and you WILL like it

>>64244165
frenchies will never allow american subsidiaries to set up in EU and compete

>>64240596
PAY DEBNTS

>>64244716
Touch grass

>>64239290 (OP)
all those eurubles wasted on pooland...will disappear...like cocks in ass

>>64239290 (OP)
Oh boy.
They're going to buy even more tanks and helis now, aren't they?

>E-europe h-hates poland tho!
>T-they will s-steal the money!
>R-rather a pole die than of me!
>S-stop workings together! You.. you hate each other!
>

>>64242216
>still butthurt 80 years later.
yep, poles.

>>64239290 (OP)
That's cool and all but how long till it's legal to hunt Russians?

>>64246268
Its already legal in Ukraine, imagine that you even get paid for it.

>>64246129
Please God, grant our defense minister enough IQ points to develop our MIC, instead of just buying shit from other countries.

>>64239726
We hate you ziggers not Little Texas.

>>64239726
Czy jak nasram na ciebie, to poczujesz się jak w domu?

>>64243453
>It's always cuckold or something about gay sex and dicks.
It's always projection. Fun fact, cuckolding (as in the sex fetish of getting your gf/wife fucked by another man) is very popular in Russia. Of course when you call them out on this they'll pose as enlightened libertines not burdened by outdated western mores and call you a prude. Which doesn't stop them from using cuck as an insult in the very next post.

>>64246344
>they'll pose as enlightened libertines not burdened by outdated western mores and call you a prude
You can post this and they will say its a hohol refugee.

>>64240380
Look, I want prussia back too, but all those resettlements didn't work out so well.
But Königsberg should definitely be repatriated, that's basically free space.

How many Baltic Germans are there left? Could they be resettled?

>>64246363
>the kid doing a double take
holy kek

>>64246282
No only that, but the manpower is rather limited.

>>64246373
I think Kaliningrad should just be walled off from the outside world for ~200 years or so with all outside communication, internet, and traffic halted entirely. After a couple centuries we can peak over the wall and see what horrors the vatnik dregs left simmering there have wrought in the years since they last had contact with real humans.

>>64246422
>I think Kaliningrad should just be walled off from the outside world for ~200 years or so with all outside communication, internet, and traffic halted entirely.
Kek do you want to create a turbo hiv/ hepatitis hybrid that could chew its way through an inner tube thickness condom?
This might seem an exaggeration but Kaliningrad was at a time the hiv capital of russia, and is still the champ for the whole Baltic sea reagion
Same for hepatitis, and that's not even counting the 40% spike caused by Special Needs Operation
Hey but at least they scored a success on the tuberculosis front getting it down to double the rate of the neighboring countries but that's still the lowest in its history kek

>>64246282
>instead of just buying shit from other countries.
Buying shit to have it now rather than in 10 years was reasonable but now that we have all this shit they should definitely invest it instead of buying even more shit.

>>64240978
Romanians love Poland, so speak for yourself, you russian piece of shit. I hope Pooping personally dedovschinas your whole family and with his tiny pecker full of their shit he dedovschinas you too.

>>64247270
I love Romania too. We have history together. No, fucking Romani are not Romanians.

romanians seem like nice people cursed to always fuck everything up

>>64239290 (OP)

Proving once again "All Wars are Bankers' Wars"

"""Polish Money Lenders"""........it's all so tiresome.

>>64248452
Yeah. Fucking Russian Jew banker. Russian need to wake up and realize they are being manipulated by Jewish Bankers in Moscow and St. Petersburg. And point the guns on Petersburg banker instead of their Ukrainian brothers.

>>64239829
Idiot. These things are negotiated well in advance.

>>64240076
>He doesent own german defense stocks
Yesterday was like early christmas for my rheinmetall

>>64246310
Mods = gods

>>64244685
it's just a fancy font. every letter is normal, it just resembles the handwritten or cursive forms more than the capital print letters

>>64239290 (OP)
That's a pretty hefty loan

>>64239313
Who is going to attack Portugal though?

>>64246363
But I thought puccia's based & trad?

>>64248715
>was selectively enforced before the old sticky was gone
>was selectively enforced while there was no sticky
>won't be enforced properly with the new sticky
mods = fags (on \K\)

>>64249882
poortugal has their guy in the commission

>>64248544
meds

>>64243982
Yea, forget about it. Not after orange man called russian drones falling on Poland an "accident".