Thread 64242324

Apparently Gerans that were shot down by Polish/NATO aircraft. Either they were jammed, Russia is regarded, or both.

>picrel with polish Saab 340 AEW&C in search pattern near Lubin

Saw some traffic off Telegram claiming these were blatantly aimed at Warsaw with little evidence of EW sending them off course. Can anyone verify?
Also I guarantee unless NATO collectively slaps russia's shit for this the ziggers will continue doing it. Boil the frog and all.

>>64242339
>They were ukrainian shaheds
Lol ziggers

>>64242339
uhuh le based???

>also 1yr old article kys

>>64242343
>Ukranian sasneeds launched from Belarus
Potato man you double crossing rat!

>>64242339
Ziggers are playing with fire. It woulf be hilarious if the zapad 2025 rumoura are true and the secret Kremlin army tries to attack the baltica and folds within 5 minutes after crossing the border.

>>64242339
>Yeah those crazy Ukrainians in Russia north of Belarus launching dozens of Russian drones from Russia through Poland towards Ukraine. 5D chess right there.

You fucking retard.

>>64242324 (OP)
Could you imagine a world in which a zigger would?

>>64242358
nukes were the greatest plague on interventionism

>regarded
Take that zoomer nigger twitch language back to your Hasan Piker stream fucking faggot

>>64242375
I’ll have you know I jerk off to only the most quality leaked Destiny blowjobs

>>64242375
Man re likely a phone autocorrect fail. Retard.

Might be the big one boys.
Poland apparently now in talks with NATO command.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/sep/10/poland-pm-condemns-repeated-violation-of-airspace-amid-russian-attack-on-ukraine-follow-live

>Prime Minister of Poland Donald Tusk decided to close the border with Belarus due to aggressive Russian-Belarusian maneuvers

Belarus's closed due to raids

>>64242476
A strongly worded response is coming. The Coalition of the Concerned are currently drafting their 34th list of sanctions against Russia. Tweets will be sent from low level government officials condemning Russia's actions. Get ready Ziggers, the time of the exhaled breath through the nose is coming.

>>64242481
Poland should order mobilization before that rus-belarus "training exercise".

>>64242481
Literally pools closed lmao
Shits about to get real /k/ino with finns too I bet

>OMG LE EPIC CODE 5
You niggers never learn, there wont be a nuclear war because some drones got jammed, its literally not even Russia's fault nor Ukraine's its like a natural disaster, Russia has to bomb Ukraine to win the war and Ukraine has to jam drones to win the war what else is there to this?

>>64242505
>Poland should order mobilization before that rus-belarus "training exercise".
What are the ziggers going to do? Send armored shopping carts?

>>64242524
Go the fuck home and give up on ussr dreams?

>>64242476
I highly doubt it, although I can actually imagine a world in which forcing article 5 is seen as the only way for uncle vladtouch to save face and actually retreat from Ukraine

>>64242524
Give up the invasion to reverse the brain drain and your working male population from going extinct

>>64242324 (OP)
Send troon carrier

>>64242524
All indications are the drones were deliberately aimed at Poland.

What is Russia hoping to do here? Get NATO boots on the ground?

>>64242609
same shit as when they fly tu-95s to the british/norwegian/etc coastlines.
just to see what happens. drones probably werent even armed.

>>64242324 (OP)
>regarded
As what?

>>64242609
One or more of these

- Provoke NATO before Trump meeting, showing russia has big balls

- Humiliate NATO as Putin is scheduled to speak to Trump very soon (I'm sure the sanctions will mysteriously be pushed back by two weeks)

- Test Poland's air defence and response times for future happenings

- Test NATO's response (which will be nothing)

>>64242609
Salami slice strategy. If they push slowly enough, people won't want to stop them properly out of fear of 'muh escalation'.

>>64242324 (OP)
This is a russophobic escalation.

>>64242524
>CODE 5
On a scale of 9 to 10, how brown are you?

>>64242609
Does anyone have that cartoon of the vatnik saying tough guy shit about how Mighty Rasha would rise an eyebrow, only it's in its dreams as it sleeps on the street in a puddle of its own piss? I feel like that would be a good indication of the Russian mindset here.

>>64242609
russia is a face saving culture so to them these minor provocations are what makes or breaks a man. outside of some incels on 4chan the west doesn't have this concept (face based cultures are basically incel cultures).

>>64242634
face saver take. it's just that an airspace violation isn't that big of a deal.

notice how face saving thirdies are always performing meaningless "provocations" like this
to understand what western nations think of this, just imagine two time travelers in the victorian
>Why does this poofy haired retard keep slapping me with a glove?
>RESPOND, WONT YOU? SO IT SEEMS YOU DOTH BE A COLOSSAL VULVA. PROVE YOUR MANHOOD OR DIE A SODOMITE.
>Just ignore him. This wouldn't be legal self defense.
>I intended to.
>GENTLEMEN, CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT THESE CURS HAVE SURRENDERED TO ME? THEY ARE WITHOUT HONOR, WITHOUT DIGNITY.

>>64242593
So what if they were? Poland has been helping Ukraine militarily for the past few months. It's a valid target.

>>64242652
cool, so NATO is allowed to strike every Russian military base/piece of infrastructure within 50kms of the border, yeah?

>>64242652
They were aimed through poland because it's a puccian glove slap

Russia knows that if they actually attack poland, they must choose between desperately trying to excuse it as an accident and finding out their nukes can't leave their borders

>>64242652
So Belarus, China, Iran, and North Korea are valid targets?

>>64242657
>>64242659
NATO would be the aggressor in that instance.

>>64242524
>It was on accident
I think this is ziggers testing the water again. These don't look like a few drones that got jammed and flew off course.

>>64242657
If it's the same vatnik from the thread about the Russian strike on a civilian demining operation in Chernihiv, then no, because Russia is allowed to strike anyone anywhere at any time but no one can fight back because war crime.

>>64242660
no. russia threw the first drones/punches.
now they get nato.

>>64242324 (OP)
>Drezno and Lipsko right next to each other
REMEMBER POŁABIE

>>64242524
>not even Russia's fault
>Russia has to bomb
They could just go home and end this idiotic war they started

>>64242658
>>64242662
Agreed, the terminal maneuvers suggest an attempt to strike (or dummy run) on Rzeszow among others.

>>64242660
NATO hasn't been the aggressor even once so far. Slap em with another glove ivan maybe this time they will defend their honor.

>>64242483
and don't forget russia is never going to be mentioned by name, those drones were "unknown origin", foreign, alien devices that will need to be investigated for 10 years until we will know for sure who sent them :(
previously when a shahed entered PL airspace few days ago our attorneys office claimed with straight face that they suspected it to be a drone used by smugglers lmao, we are such a joke man

>>64242685
That's bullshit, that one was a smuggling drone. We had a shaheed before that and nobody said it was something else.

>>64242685
>not going to war is bad, actually
If russia wants war they can declare war like men instead of pussying around like chinese manlets
>oooh we frew crose to you! no fight back? we victolious! -manlets declare and win a war

>>64242440
>Man re likely a phone autocorrect fail. Retard.
It's reddit slang for retarded because the actual word gets you a b& for being non-PC.
It's mostly from r/wsb I believe.

>>64242476
>Might be the big one boys.
This is absolutely an opportunity to aggressively tap the sign.

Polish MOD announces Dutch assistance halting the incursion.

>>64242351
no some actual useful insights came from budanov. with their assessment they wont be attacking. for now. Zapad 2025 is the most pathetic and weakest of all the zapads that has been held as everything ziggers have is stuck in ukraine. Now there is also official confirmation that they strategic reserves are all sent to pokrovsk to get stuck in the mud

but definitely are stockpiling ballistic missiles and drones not used on ukraine. They will attempt an invasion either next year earliest or 2027 when they coordinate with chang assault on taiwan. either way its absolutely going to happen as long as agent orange exists. it such a lottery win for both of them that they would be fools not to capitalize on the political triumph.

only thing that can change it is either two weeks taco croacking, although it wont stop american descent into isolationism, or monke getting acked by somebody capable of it. like ukranians. vatnik bloodthirst wont go anywhere but the new tzar will have his hands full securing his new host assets for his friends and family. playing stalin and this war bullshit gets in the way of making a shit ton of money

>>64242691
russians are like a rabid dog, they will attack only when they sense weakness, if you show them resolve and strength they will leave you alone, Turks shot down their jet and Moscow stopped crossing their airspace. Allowing russian drones and missiles to fly over the border and then pretending that "lol nothing happened actually hehe just a random drone who cares" is inviting further aggression, not the other way around. Im glad we finally shot some of them down after 2137 previous times we ignored them but at the very least I would expect a symmetrical response with some of our drones "accidentally" crossing into Kaliningrad.

>>64242697
oh, that dutchposter may not have been bluffing

>>64242691
It doesn't matter if Russia ends up annexing areas larger than many European countries within several years and all European populist parties trample over each other to buy Russian energy and goods at the highest possible price.
They'll come for the Baltics next. They would send whatever the 2030 equivalent of little green men will be to squat in Estonia, and by 2035 several EU member states will propose to recognize Russian control of Tartu oblast.

>>64242703
Russians are like a rabid dog, and NATO is like a CCW dudebrah fishing for a confrontation and never getting one

>>64242713
>Russia ends up annexing anything
Lol they bled their country dry trying to annex farmland in ukraine

Russia is weak and offers nothing but a fuel source that has many alternatives.

>>64242643
I have this.

>about to go for a holiday around włodawa
>it's raining drones
i'll need to set up a decoy orphanage to keep myself safe

THE TWO SMALL WHEELS OF WAR ARE TURNING
ESTONIA IS NEXT
IN TWO MORE WEEKS RUSSIA'S MIGHTIEST VEHICLES WILL BE TWO WEEKS AWAY
SOON THE ENTIRE BALKANS WILL BE SCOOTED UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF RUSSIA
EUROPE WILL BE AWED, THE POPULISTS WILL SCRAMBLE FOR A CHANCE TO BUY RUSSIA'S GREATEST TREASURE

THE VLADIMIR SCOOTIN

Only polish casualties are still from ukro chimpout tho.

>>64242722
They annexed Crimea. Ukraine sadly can't feasibly recover the occupied areas by military means anymore, and Russia has already "added them to [their] constitution."
Russia is weak. It is diseased, rotten from the inside and out, more repulsive than pitiful. And yet Europeans let them slap them around, never retaliating for fear of this decrepit husk of a nation micturating over their new hardwood floor built with gay asylum seeker labor. So they give this squatter the master bedroom instead.

>>64242609
they are testing reaction times and airspace holes. expect repeated drone and missile incursion not only into poland but also into lithuania, latvia and estonia. not only for the coming weeks but also coming years

its their got to tactic for numbing response and then suddenly going from "exercises" to invasion. Like they did with ukraine. clueless retards think the exercise they did prior to 2022 was the only one but it has been years upon years since they have taken place. In the zapad lineup from the neo-imperialist putinist pozzia the earliest was in 2009, a year after the georgian invasion

TL/DR. these deliberate drone incursions are a clear signal that muscovia is actively preparing to invade other east euros in the coming years

In russian tradition, a dangerous HATO-Polish apartment building was struck.

>>64242754
I am very demoralized

>>64242697
>Luchtmacht
Dutch is such a funny language

>>64242643
I have a variant for spiderweb, but not the original
I might have it somewhere in my meme folder but can't be fucked trying to find it

Whatever, Dolan Trom will call monke and we’ll see what happens after two weeks.

>>64242754
Bla bla bla

An airspace violation isn't worth an immediate escalation to full scale war between nuclear powers.

>>64242755
Except this is NATO. They're just being retarded.

>>64242755
>invade NATO aligned country
>get NATO down your throat after throwing away a vast majority of material assets and trained manpower into ukraine
>China bails the absolute FUCK out bc white people trade good and getting into a war over your shit stain desires is stupid
Russian retardation is prolific and immense, but they aren't THAT stupid, this is likely just poking the borders a bit for personal clout

>>64242713
well if baltic countries in their inferiority and learned helplessness complex are not willing to defend themselves, even if completely alone, then why should others care about it? for now it seems some of them are taking it very seriously and actively preparing. If they dont want Tartu oblast then nothing is stopping them from making places like leningrad oblast and its adjacent areas cross border the new donbawe killing fields

main reason urkanians had a real collapse of the southern front and lost kherson, melitopol and mariupol was because of their unwillingness to face the reality that ziggers are about to invade. Without that, specially if you take into account the terrain north of crimea, right now melitopol and maybe even mariupol would still be ukranian. Definitely would not have lost access to Azov sea

>>64242767
the EU could easily stop Russia but we don't, that's the point. A united Europe is economically and militarily strong, but that means fuck all if every single country is willing to throw its neighbors under the bus for cheaper gas and the retarded expectation that Russia will surely be satisfied for good this time after they get done raping the neighbor's corpse.

literally
>notmyproblem.jpg
the continent.

>>64242609
Putin wants to challenge article 5 without starting a war

>>64242785
>unwillingness to face the reality that ziggers are about to invade.
unfortunately our politicians are extremely guilty of this. the preparations being made are basically an excuse to expropriate state funds on random flashy projects rather than any kind of cohesive defensive strategy being implemented

t. latvian

>>64242786
>We
An airspace incursion is not worth an escalation between nuclear powers

Russia is too pussy to attack for real. They do these things for face.

>>64242797
>Russia is too pussy to attack for real. They do these things for face.
Then their face can be removed, lmao

>>64242786
t. brown, smelly, fat retard sitting in his safe basement way over the pond who would shit his pants and cry and piss himself if there were even the slightest chance of war on his own soil

>>64242324 (OP)
>mfw when the whole Internet got anxious and frightened, and birds were sent over a few drones all while ukies deal with x100 of that on almost daily basis for many months

>government waits until 08:44 to send out text warnings about the drones
lol

>>64242782
>>64242784
Nato is weak and fractured right now. The all mighty article 5 is mostly an illusion that has no enforcing mechanism for members that willfully ignore it. West europe completely demilitarized not even stockpiling their cold war hardware into warehouses because 1000 year end of history pink haze

for the US you would be a total fool to think agent orange is going to do something in two weeks. Congress is afraid of him and he is a open simp for monke

Realistic combatants in a article five situation for baltic invasion are finland and poland. With sweden, germany, denmark and maybe UK being active in the rear. Even then for finns and poles they will only actively join the war with baltic nations if they defend themselves and blunt the initial invasion push themselves, getting them stuck in the eastern woodland marches and western pozzia. Turning it into a new Donbawe. otherwise its way too tempting to stay within your borders coping from your trenches as assault is always far more expensive and difficult then defending.

>>64242785
>>64242794
There seems to be a little work done by Lithuania at least, but it seems to be more of a local government circlejerk and a very long-term plan which won't bear fruit soon. But whatever the Baltics do, put together they have fewer people than just the Berlin metropolitan area and an economy half as big as Berlin. They are legitimately Europe's most vulnerable people and it's Europe's unwritten duty to defend them, learned helplessness or otherwise.

Guys I'm so demoralised right now

Why can't poland send its own drone swarm to russia? I guarantee you there will be abolutely nothing to stop them. Just send them at random, blow up some cars or buildings, then say the ukies did it. Problem solved.

>>64242821
You russians and your delusions. Sometimes I wonder if russians don't actually lie all the time. Maybe, they're just incredibly stupid.

You know russia has no functioning modern air defenses right
China is the only nation that could help and they have lied about their capabilities constantly

It would be a bloodbath. But do continue to feel like some face has been saved. The glove has been thrown. Honor has been challenged. Gay sex will be had all across mosko. Or whatever.

>>64242337
Convince me Poland couldn't solo Russia.

>>64242324 (OP)
>shot down
So effectively the Poland just've used up their year's supply of AA missiles, amirite Gayrapeans?

>>64242794
European politicians are unfortunately just as retarded as Russian politicians, with much the same incentives
>war? what about my wallet THOUGH

>>64242405
Whatever Snake Plissken ass suicide mission we're planning to send into Leningrad you're the first one in

>>64242324 (OP)
I FUCKING HATE RUSSIAN NIGGERS
KILL RUSSIANS, BEHEAD RUSSIANS, DROP RUSSIANS INTO THE RED SEA, SALT THE EARTH FROM BELARUS TO THE URALS
TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH NOW

Does anyone honestly think that Trump would honour article 5 if it got activated

It would just be some bullshit about how Russia is being naughty and he would talk to his good friend Putin and he would make a deal etc etc.
Vance would probably say that whoever was attacked deserved it, it's not our war bla bla


Tell me I'm wrong

>>64242807
its got not that much to do with fear but more of bafflement and copium about zegroids really being stupid enough to try and expand/continue their war on western civilization even after the disaster that is the stalemate in ukraine

>>64242835
Any of the Top 5 European economies could solo Russia, but this isn't the point. It is a massive liability* if the alliance's top member can just go "nuh-uh" and have the rest of the alliance decide to sit in the pot until they get boiled alive. The European constituents of the alliance aren't just undecisive at this point, they're maliciously incompetent. Forwarding all your problems to the next election cycle is a fucking terrible practice with Russia and soon China on the prowl.

* mostly to the deterrent capability of NATO, but Westerners are unique amongst the world's peoples in that they are supposed to have integrity. This is shameful.

Two weeks for sanctions ruining.

>>64242821
Russia does ballet on tanks? Amazing!
They are strong and not weak.

>>64242875
Honestly? I wouldn't jinx it.

>>64242873
this

The biggest eye opening thing for me on this war is that not a single nation in general know how to actually fight.
>Russians are full blown retards, who lost their whole regular army against numerically and weaponry inferior neighbor. Golf cars, scooters and fucking donkeys!
>Ukies are actually surprisingly good and smart yet still have failures cause of lack initial training and weapon.
>Iranians send shit ton of missiles and barely scratch shit, but hold on - Israel with the infinite ammo cheat code till stuck in a fucking Gaza and can't execute shit for good.
>US has tried to show power but all they could do was pathetic parody on their 20-30yo operations. And they didn't even really hit nuclear sites for good. Also jets dropping off the ships was peak comedy.
>Pakistan and India lost jets in a clumsy clown fiesta and calmed down, probably realizing none of them have any idea how to fight and win.
>easternnflank of Nato countries are scared of shooting down a single fucking drone and overall look like they know they are not ready at fucking all, while constantly looking back at US to save their assess.
>China's recent ship incident was also peak comedy. These fags are most likely only good at making funny CGI cartoons showcasing how their army take over the world, while in reality are even worse than ziggers.

It's clown fiesta out there. No one can actually fight without looking like retarded with a stick.

>>64242875
no you aint wrong. after the past nine months since he got back in, specially that alaska failure that might not have featured even the real monke on top of everything, its pure denialism right now thinking he is anything but a complete lottery win for both monke and xi

also the thing with him is even if he has a heart failure from one big mac too many the overall trend of US isolationist sentiment that fueled him isn't going anywhere. It will however likely stop US from openly directly aiding pozzia in particular and likely keep the "money-for-weapons" program stable. So friends and allies of the US can still capitalize on their excellent hardware

Yes yes, NATO magazine for peaceful claiming of Lebensraum Ost reported that the evil Russians attacked a gorillion babies in Poland Nato homeland. Clearly we must intensify now our efforts for the Azov Bandera Reich so finally we can conquer uh liberate Moscow and have the pride flag over red square.

>>64242827
It's the same here, it's not as bad as the other Latvian makes it out to be. There are actual civil defence plans being worked out, as well as guidelines for municipal governments (which I recall are already prepared). But yeah, it's also somewhat a circlejerk and will take some time to implement.
Even the "flashy purchases" are necessary (the ASCOD one comes to mind immediately). I just wish we started improving our drone capabilities, both offensive and defensive. The infrastructure is literally there will all the drone coalition stuff.

>>64242803
I've spent my entire life in a country under direct threat of r*ssian invasion, fuck off.

>>64242898
>Israel with the infinite ammo cheat code till stuck in a fucking Gaza and can't execute shit for good.
Gaza is very dense and it's not actually a genocide. It's just less discriminate than white people would prefer it to be.

>>64242898
The only one is disagree with is Ukraine. They've done surprisingly well since even the Pentagon and NATO weren't counting on them lasting more than a few weeks in case Russia invaded.

>>64242904
Did you know same HATO magazine Lebensraum bragged about arming Nazis in Finland for Purple Revolution? Very alarming, Russian peacekeepers necessary.

>>64242905
none of this matters without adequate force generation and munitions stockpiling. we should be fortifying our cities, creating supply dumps for stay-behind operations in our forests, and most importantly buying millions of drones, thousands of SAMs and ATGMs, investing in long range attack capability, and training everyone old enough to walk to operate these weapons systems.

instead our politicians are debating whether the border "obstacle zone" should be 12 or 24 meters wide, and buying fucking CVRTs

>>64242916
>we should be fortifying our cities, creating supply dumps for stay-behind operations in our forests, and most importantly buying millions of drones, thousands of SAMs and ATGMs, investing
You are broke as fuck ahd have no shells

Article 4 is on. Soon the NATO members will gather. Some pics:

House hit by drone

>>64242923
This was not hit by drone. Clearly Tunguska Meteor damage.

>live in 3city on the coast
>literally emailed a shooting range yesterday about joining so i can get myself a gun license
>this shit happens
right

>>64242920
It does look like rusnig gerbera

>>64242898
By its very nature, war is a cluster fuck no matter how organized and prepared you think you are. Expect and embrace the chaos lest it paralyzes you.

>>64242905
>>64242916
As soon as September rolls around or whenever you're supposed to withdraw from the Ottawa convention, you need a 150m wide AT minefield stretching the entire border with Vatnikstan, ATGM emplacements overlooking every bog, dragon's teeth at every access point, remote detonated explosives, and a super ultra secret police to detain every single potential vatnik saboteur. Hopefully Poland will be there to deny them air superiority and take out artillery and Meteorits.

>>64242923
clearly a hohols drone
also this is a bober HATO HQ

>>64242875
Article 5 forces countries to send whatever hep they want(!).
So for example, if Russia will attack default Finland, other countries may just send them some bulletproof vests and food packs and consider it as doing their part.
At this point it's a meme rules that holds power as long as there is no one willing to fuck with them.
Putin seems to be unhinged enough to do exactly that.
Trump, who is clearly in Putin's pocket, may just send attacked countries some cookies and few javelins and say that it's Biden war.
Overall the whole thing is such a shameless chain of historical moments. Ukraine served Russia so well with not a single drop of EU blood in the first couple years and that war could have been literally over by now if EU leaders and Biden admin weren't such a pussies back then and send proper aid and not put every brake possible. Now it will spiral into shitshow with most likely many EU people dead.

>>64242609
Training natocucks like a dogs.
Everyone says: "we cant start war because of that"
Then you send slighty more drones and repeat untill dog is tamed to accept payloads in their mouths as big as you need

>>64242886
>It is a massive liability* if the alliance's top member can just go "nuh-uh" and have the rest of the alliance decide to sit in the pot until they get boiled alive.
ironically its up to the smallest members, the baltic states now to keep Nato skeleton going. if they can blunt the invasion attempt upcoming in the next years it will be enough to at least pull the northern part of the alliance into action. Ignoring them like ukraine at first is just openly inviting war and random terror bombings into your own backyard. that is something even the biggest compromising softies can ignore if they want to keep their seats

>>64242476
Cool, time to destroy that Iskander base near Cape Taran. Easily reachable from Poland and it's security is a rusty barbed wire fence that's mostly knocked down.
I remember picking raspberries past the fence when I was a kid in 2006 and they haven't fixed it since.

>>64242942
>this is actually how the russian mind works
Face saving cultures are literally a lower form of humanity.

See how great that worked for the arabs in gaza.
>SEE, THEY ACCEPT DISHONOR, THEY ARE DOGS! WE ARE WINNING, SOON THEY WILL SIMPLY DROP DE-
>HELP GENOCIDE
>Israel: I prefer dogs to cats now.

>>64242950
Those weren't raspberries anon... those were snozzberries.

Another one from the area of Biała Podlaska.

>>64242953
See, you and ukraine are in position of arabs now

>>64242908
>I've spent my entire life in a country under direct threat of ... invasion
This means it is not a country but a territory

>>64242916
Things like that would make the civilians afraid and lower household spending and lower fertility rates.

>>64242939
>bonjour

>>64242965
People enjoy being at war.

>>64242916
It's not that bad. SAM's and ATGM's are already on the table, the CVRT's are on their way out. The new military base in Sēlija (which, uncharacteristically, is actually being built on schedule) will dramatically increase the amount of people that can be trained, something that'll be very useful when VAD is fully implemented. Munitions production capacity is also being increased (this is all very basic news that should be easily found in our public broadcaster's website).
Of course, we can't avoid our governmental retardation fully (you already mentioned the border defences), but again, it's not that bad. Hopefully we don't try to reinvent the wheel and just buy Finnish mines when that ban is lifted.

>>64242939
>>64242923
It obviously didn't explode, I've seen what that looks like up close.
It's a kinetic impact, presumably a decoy drone sent through to Poland to troll Ukrainian air defences on the way, reconnoitre Ukrainian air defences and targets and then finally troll NATO when it's done its job in Ukraine.

>>64242875
>>64242899
>>64242941
Trump isn't interested in saving you, Ivan.

>>64242941
>Article 5 forces countries to send whatever hep they want(!).
I think it's more about political cover for other countries to join a war without technically being eager to do so.
>oh no, we have to help our allies, I wish I didn't have to order our army to go curb-stomp mobiks but it's just how it is
>please vote for me for peace!

>>64242997
ofc it not exploded, but could have killed anyway

Vid of interception near Cześniki.
(On my phone, sorry for twatter link).
https://x.com/wolski_jaros/status/1965681298250608922

>>64242941
well the silver lining in this slaughter fest is that without the indecisive cuckening vatniks would have been forced way sooner to stop the war. which means they would be regenerating forces and preparing for their next special military disaster right now. With much more of the soviet stockpiles intact

Right now ukraine has destroyed most of it and while I seriously doubt balts could have halted even the 200k invasion force of 2022, they definitely have a chance now. That most of the soviet stocks are gone and vatniks are reduced down to light infantry attacks with donkeys and limited artillery. Drones and glide bombs are now the main threats to counter

The grind is awful and full of gore but there is a real chance of decisively destroying vatnik imperialism once and for all. As they become too weak to resist changs permanently turning them into their client state bleeding them for all their worth. Before snatching siberia away, the last real imperial colony they have left, when they are done with them

>>64243006
>ofc it not exploded, but could have killed anyway
Sure.
Last week's missile strike in Olympsky, Kyiv killed two people who were just in the street and hit by debris, the actual missile was intercepted I think but too close to ground level and the explosion was what took some rooves off and fucked up a commieblock.

drone shot down in cześniki

>>64243003
true it can be used this way. but it absolutely can be used in the cuck way as that anon described. It all comes down to political will and the lines are pretty clearly drawn by that with the ukraine war

>>64243030
>fox 2
>splash
kino

>>64242784
>Russian retardation is prolific and immense, but they aren't THAT stupid
This is what I thought in 2022 then these 67%+ fetal alcohol 'tards actually went for it.

>>64242667
Those drones in the air also had castle doctrine protection. Poland didn't even ask before intercepting the peaceful military suicide drones unannounced in their airspace, they're clearly an aggressor.

>>64243001
all comrade trump trumpovitch has to do is nothing. which is exactly what he is doing

>>64243056
russian drones matter anon, simple as
fuckin hell i'd give my life away so i could wish upon the genie of the lamp to kill every zigger

>>64242755
>its their got to tactic for numbing response and then suddenly going from "exercises" to invasion.
That's literally everyone's tactic. Why do you think the US does those exercises in South Korea? Just in case they need cover for an invasion.

>>64242997
for now. they will be sending explosive ones soon enough if they think the response is too soft

>>64243060
If you made every zigger magically disappear, you wouldn't be able to chase them down with machetes, slaughter them in front of their women, and sentence everyone who allowed that ulcer of a country to fester to a lifetime of forced labor in rare earth metal mines.

>me watching NATO using hundreds millions dollars worth of misssiles just to shoot down 400-500 drones Russia will eventually send into Poland one night, because these retards didn't think of building own interceptor drone factories in 3 years
>then Russia will send 500 more

>>64243093
>hundreds millions dollars worth of misssiles
It's by design, how much more can US corpos earn on those expensive missiles vs making styrofoam drones.

>>64242960
Looks like it wasn't even shot down by the impenetrable nafo defence, it just fell. Can you imagine 1000 sof such drones falling down nightnly?

actual kikes attack Syria and Qatar. Russian kikes attack Poland. We have a serious kike problem.

>>64242965
finns have been doing that for decades since their confidence boost in winter war and it has the direct opposite effect. it boosts morale and confidence. fertility rate has nothing to do with it as that moves separately depending on other factors

estonia also had a huge confidence boost coming from WW1 and its war of independence. where they decisively defeated vatniks and the remnants of the imperial german army. end result was 25% of gdp spent on the military by 1939 and better armed/prepped/more wealthy then finland was at the time. Then the Trump like autocrat at the time cucked out and just let vatniks in during WW2. Now estonians, even after regaining independence, are struggling with self confidence, 5% of GDP spent on military and generally poorer then finland

>>64242609
Remind the world that they can, and there is nothing anyone will do about it.
Ofc this only works until someone does something about it, then they cry like little bitches, like when Turkey shot down that Su-24, again.

>>64243133
Everybody always says democracy is weak but the Baltic states before WW2 were ruled by various enlightened dictator types, which promptly cucked out and were conquered. Finland wasn't and fought to a bitter peace but weren't conquered

>>64243093
Yeah, they invested into maintanance of their airforce to bomb drone launch sites/drone assembly sites instead and kept the production of expensive missiles to destroy expensive aircraft that could threaten their airforce. You shoot the archer not the arrow or even better, the dude bringing the arrows or the arrow maker.

Trump's invasion.
"It wouldn’t have happened (and it didn’t) when Biden was president.

>>64242782
>Except this is NATO. They're just being retarded.
Nobody cares, the western government and societies are cucks. There's no one willing to actually go and fight in a hot war, and die, because people die in wars, even if 20 russians would die for a single European.

>>64242373
Good thing puccia doesn't have any that work.

>>64242483
The sanctions were the drones blowing the fuck out of refineries all along. You sound scared, Olga.

>>64242821
Russia isnt able to produce a decisive outcome in Ukraine. In what planet do they take on numerous other countries that hold significant technical superiority in a multitude of fields. Russia would get butt fucked by the European F35 fleet alone at this point. The US barely needs to get involved beyond gleefully selling arms.

>>64243162
Russia invaded ukraine when Biden was president

>>64242691
>not going to war is bad, actually
Yes, it is. The earlier you strike back at subhuman faggots the less issues it creates for everyone else.

>>64243176
Ukraine is not NATO.

>>64243093
>interceptor drone factories
you never win this intercept game anyway, its always an economic loss.

>I condemn it in the strongest possible terms. I call on Russia to put an end to this headlong rush. I reiterate to the Polish people and its government our full solidarity.
t. Makaron

ARTICLE 4

>>64243166
Let's hope you never have to find out, you retarded blight upon humanity.

>>64243198
Means nothing. Sanctions on two weeks amirite?

>>64242898
even the all mighty germans had prolific major fuck ups in their various theaters across europe. The only thing certain about war is that everything goes to plan until the first contact

>>64243204
so what will happens now? I'm in Poland, will we just get droned weekly from now on?

>>64243175
good luck getting ultra cucked super pacifist states like germany, that "dont want to escalate things" to do any meaningful military action. and even if, trump will probably punish europe for going against his buddy vlady.

>>64242785
>are not willing to defend themselves
My brown friend, they can't physically defend themselves without nukes. They don't have either the demographics, industry or geography.
- They don't have an at least 200K army.
- They don't have local weapons production.
- They don't have hundreds of miles of land to retreat into.
Thus, an opponent which doesn't care about losses can just overwhelm them in an costly attack and occupy them in days. This however isn't a reason why they should be attacked and occupied by mongoloid subhumans though. Being a civilized society is specifically acknowledging that you don't play "might is right" with subhumans.

>>64243150
if I remember correctly the finn president and light autocrat also wanted to cuck out initially but Parliament stood up and said fuck no

>Belarus claims "Drones got lost)))"
>Russian state TV says 'unnamed Polish source' says "Ukranian false flag)))"
The firehose begins

>>64243208
Yes.

>>64242797
Cool it with the ook-ook nook-nook posting, faggot. If russia didn't launch nukes at ukies in 2022-2025, then they won't fly at all. Simple as.

>>64243193
NATO didn't give a fuck when Russian planes violated Turkish airspace and didn't provide any assistance to Turkey when a violating Russian plane was shot down. NATO is a joke. Security guarantees are all a joke. All countries bordering Russia are on their own.

>>64242852
Poland couldn't even solo a strongly worded response to russia

>>64243213
You mean the winter war president? He was more of an endsieg type of guy.

So let me get this straight, Russia can attack Poland, but Poland can't attack preemptively places of launch of these things

seems fucking fair

>>64242873
take a load of this moderate kek

>>64243214
Rushits dont even need to invent anything, when the cuck of poland himself claims it was "unidentified object", "violation" etc.
Lets wait for "the failling debris has damaged polish house".

>>64243221
>HATO is joke why turky shoot down russian jet on own
they clearly didn't need nor ask for assistance

>>64242886
>Any of the Top 5 European economies could solo Russia
With what army though? UK doesn't even have 100 working tanks AFAIK.

>>64243221
lies. nato members gave very much a fuck and very deeply, deeply concerned. followed by stern condemnation of escalation following the shoot down

>>64243221
because turkey is a borderline enemy/traitor of nato and probably the next country to attack europe.

>>64243211
>Thus, an opponent which doesn't care about losses can just overwhelm them in an costly attack and occupy them in days
lmao just like zigger overwhelmed ukraine, right?
zdychaj w mekach rusku pierdolony kurwo jebana

>>64242898
>These fags are most likely only good at making funny CGI cartoons showcasing how their army take over the world, while in reality are even worse than ziggers.
The better the parades and PR shit is, the worse the reality on the ground is for autocratic regimes. Simple as.

>>64243213
Finns were very reluctant to cuck out in the slightest which is why the war happened in the first place
But we had the same thing then that we had roughly 1991 to 2022, "who needs an army anyway because there isn't going to be a war"
We even did away with the tank corps in the 1930s because le waste of money

>>64243214
>Belarus claims "Drones got lost)))"
Lmao they claim drones being shot by them and poland was saved by based russia)))
https://lenta.ru/news/2025/09/10/belorussiya-zayavila-o-pomoschi-polshe-v-intsidente-s-bespilotnikami/

>>64243227
Mannerheim yes. Wasn't he both president and also supreme commander of the armed forces? estonians had Laidoner as his equivalent that was giving almost word for word exact same predictions about wartime stockpile endurance of two weeks to a month to the autocrat Pats

>>64243214
>tfw german news say russian drones
huh?

>>64243234
they asked for air defense and got german patriot batteries

>>64243208
Nothing. Russia will stop using polish airspace for dinner strikes. It would take something like a drone hitting a daycare and killing children for politicians to do something other than strongly condemn russias actions.

>>64242905
>I just wish we started improving our drone capabilities, both offensive and defensive.
Ukie drone startups are literally traveling to your countries and begging for investments (which cost less than a single IFV), ready to open up local manufacturing in your countries, and yet the locals are naive and retarded.

Why is Poland attacking peaceful Russian civilian drones? This is a war crime.

>>64243255
>Russia will stop
hopefully

>>64243249
Mannerheim wasn't president until after the war, he spent a lot of time during the 1920s and 1930s being politically undesirable actually

>>64243249
Mannerheim became president only in 1944 after Finland bamboozeled Germans and made peace.
The guy who was in charge during the winter war said ”let my hand be withered away, being forced to sign a paper like this”.

Another one near Wohyń

>>64242942
>dog as an insult
>thinking immediately of cum in mouth
Hello snownigger

>>64243213
>>64243227
Mannerheim knew that while Finland could fight the good fight. without allies it would eventually lose and that is after he spend decades trying to get Finland as ready as he could.
he thought that it was better to accept the terms because he knew they would eventually be driven to the beaking point and then the soviets would take more.
during WWII he threw his hat in with Hitler thinking he could get the lost territory back but also chose a peace settlement over going on to the bitter end.
he simply cared to much about his soldiers to see them wasted in futher, pointless fighting

>>64243267
Like to be called dog by your masters?

>>64243260
>>64243261
but did he have an active role in both the winter and continuation war as an officer? I remember reading about his predictions about the two weeks and was immediately reminded about what Laidoner said to Pats. Which greatly influenced his cucking out

https://wiadomosci.wp.pl/polska-uruchomi-art-4-nato-to-dopiero-wstep-7198689847995296a
>Poland wants to invoke Article 4 of NATO. "This is only the beginning"

>Allied consultations have just now taken the form of a formal request to trigger Article 4 of the North Atlantic Treaty – said Prime Minister Donald Tusk in the Sejm. "The decision to invoke Article 4 was preceded by my consultations with the President. This is our joint recommendation and our joint decision," he added. Tusk stressed that "this is only the beginning."

Its habbening!1

Polish PM confirmed 19 violations of airspace.

>>64243269
wasnt and bad idea. if the germans would have won, which they were on track doing before americans interfered with lend lease, then not only would the injustice have been absolved but also suur-suomi would have become suur-muumi

>>64243214
The classic strat

is this the first time in history NATO country was attacked directly?

>>64243269
Though in the end the defensive lines that had been meticulously built got overrun way too fast.

>>64243159
Naive view point. Even if the interceptor is more expensive than the drone (which isn't guaranteed btw), it still can be just a tiny bit more expensive and not 100x more expensive. An interception drone costs less than a stinger missile. This allows you to fairly cheaply shoot them down, negating the use of conventional AA and thus not wasting it on those BS drones.

>>64243276
Yeah he was the supreme commander of the armed forces throughout, the reason why he wasn't in great demand politically was actually his background as a Russian officer

>>64242936
>By its very nature, war is a cluster fuck no matter how organized and prepared you think you are. Expect and embrace the chaos lest it paralyzes you
Moltke strikes again

>>64243279
>Tusk already says it's not a REAAAAL attack and nothingburger
>Article 4 is essentially: hey retards let's sit down and talk
I could shit in NATO's desk and they wouldn't even ask me to stop. I fucking hate how cowardly people are these days. I miss the warmongering boomers that would engage in MAD over a mild inconvenience. Now all we have are pussies who are aftaid to say something heckin' mean about ruzzia :((((((

>>64243175
>In what planet do they take on numerous other countries that hold significant technical superiority in a multitude of fields
Because they wouldn't be fighting "on numerous other countries that hold significant technical superiority in a multitude of fields", they would be humanwave invading the Baltics, all of which have less population than a single large russian city. Simple as.

>>64243241
>lmao just like zigger overwhelmed ukraine, right?
That's the point, zigger were not able to do it because ukraine was too big for this tactic to work. Ukies just retreated and started fucking up russians, which were away from their staging grounds. This is what strategic depth is. This is what Poland did during the Polish–Soviet War of 1919-1921. And this is what the Baltic states can't do.

>>64243287
An airspace violation is not a direct attack.

>>64243305
but they landed in Poland, looks more like an attack to me

>>64243287
There was a NATO country in the 80s that had to fight off an invasion.

>>64243296
The generation that fought the previous war is nearly gone, so we have forgotten what war is like. Happens time and time again. Retards moan about housing prices and jobs and the military sucking up money without being able to envision what it all would look like under Russian bombardment

>>64243305
Twin towers violation wasn't a direct attack as well

>>64243304
Estonia could fortify its eastern border easy, the south and the sea pose a bit of a problem and that's where you're likely to need some depth

>>64243292
seems like a over reaction in hindsight. As long as the officer is nationalist the training background is secondary. Laidoner was also a officer from tzarist academy and lead the estonian armed forces to victory, coming from scratch, in the war of independence. If anything their background gave them insight into how the enemy operates and how to effectively counter them

for example the prediction laidoner and his general staff gave of the invasion force was almost exactly the same concentration vatniks prepped for the possible invasion if resisted. Which also was the same formations that went straight into the grinder of the Winter War. Parade troops in front of the columns and all

>>64243312
Falklands War? Wrong theater for NATO to matter + Argentina crumbled pretty quickly
Wasn't a war either - no one ever declared it a war and Thatcher sure as fuck wasn't going to declare war over that rump state

>>64243214
>Russia's temporary chargé d'affaires in Poland rejects claims that Russian drones entered Polish airspace.
>"We believe that the claims are groundless. There has been no evidence that these drones are of Russian provenance," Andrey Ordash tells Russian state news agency RIA Novosti.
I see we are at the PROOFS stage too

>>64243313
Most Europeans don't want to fight and prefer occupation. People from the 20th century would be rolling in their graves. An entire French generation sacrificed themselves over some balkan retard in a car

>>64243320
I mean sure, but consider that the Finnish establishment was sucking up to Germany so hard we wanted a German king in 1918
Russian anything was suspicious in the immediate post independence years

>Poland shot down 4 out of 19 drones - Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk.
Whats F-35, NASAMS, Patriot doing?

>>64243320
>Parade troops in front of the columns and all
You just reminded me that history repeated itself

>>64243329
Clearly says 4 shot down
The rest seem to have crashed before reaching their destination or were allowed to continue as their trajectories didn't pass over anything vital

>>64243329
nothing

>>64243304
>ukraine was too big
only place ukranian took a real hit and lost permanent ground was the southern front. Which happened because ukranian government was until the last minute dismissing the invasion force as another exercise. The south also had turncoats the FSB had successfully bribed and reportedly Kharkiv and Sumy also had suspicious elements. but local loyalist like azov and cyborg chads kept a close eye on them not letting them do anything stupid. In kherson in contrast not only were the minefields against crimea removed, but even the bridge across the dnieper was left intact despite demolition crews on the stand by with explosives

point is zegroids can be mulched to death at the borders if you stop huffing copium and prepare to turn the areas around the border into a grinder with trenches, minefields and prepared positions.

>>64242919
>You are broke as fuck ahd have no shells
But enough about Pidorstan

>>64243327
>Most Europeans don't want to fight and prefer occupation
so you are from india after all

>>64243338
>happened because ukranian government was until the last minute dismissing the invasion force
It happened mostly because the current government installed russian agents into the South (this was done by the president’s childhood friend, who had been appointed Chief of the SBU).

>>64243338
There are literal Russian-speaking Ukrainian refugees who fled the war only to say that Russia stronk and Ukraine a shit
Maybe the Russian language alone corrupts your brain somehow

>>64243338
>Which happened because ukranian government was until the last minute dismissing the invasion force as another exercise.
That wasn't it.
t. knower

>The south also had turncoats the FSB had successfully bribed and
Yes.

The south was fucked by traitors, retarded local command and geography.

>>64243353
i'm a pole and i don't want to die in a fucking trench
at the same time, i don't want to give fucking ziggers even an inch of polish soil. polish response should be swift and decisive, shoot down anything and everything that invades polish airspace, nothing less.
>but is a mistake, not an invasion!
don't give a fuck ziggers, you are subhumans, don't speak as if you're equal to anyone else

>>64243287
This is not even the first time russian drones wandered into poland during the invasion of ukraine.

>>64243355
I will press X to doubt your assertion, but Zelensky did have a reputation as a pro-Russian president being a Russian speaker and all
His decision to remain and fight probably surprised Putin too

>>64243353
They've done polls, it's legit. When asked if they would fight most of the population of NATO countries said no. Finland I think had the most people saying they would fight. Yuros are demoralized, same reason AfD is rising so fast in popualrity nowadays

>>64243365
>but Zelensky did have a reputation as a pro-Russian
You will be suprised when the war is over. Or if you just read anything but twitter posts of excited western normies.

>>64243006
>That picture on the wall pointing up

Clearly this was a Polish Shitposter's house

>>64243367
>it's legit
>cause i said so
>bro trust me cyka
nigger

>>64243376
>20% willing
No demoralization here

>>64243376
>>64243362

>>64243388
>still no source
>no it's totally legit trust me bro
>euro totally demorilizd
>cyka pls trust me ;_;
nigger

Walmart could easily defeat Muscovy in a war

>>64243376
>Inb4 Gallup is fake news

>>64243389
both of those are me

>putin has the kiddie file with the orange retard
>eastern euros falling apart and/or ran through by fifth column
>western euros continue to pretend the world outside of their iPhone doesn't exist
There will not be a more better time in the foreseeable future to pull a full retard than now. If I lived in the Baltics or Taiwan, I’d be very nervous about the next few years. Good luck to any anons out there...

>>64243367
the polls you refer to are in the line of "would you go and fight for your country"
not "would you rather go fight for your country or live under russian occupation"
you will get very, very different results based on how you word your question.

>>64243256
To be fair in our particular case we actually are doing something. It is not enough and mostly directed at Ukraine, but still.
https://labsoflatvia.com/en/news/drone-coalition-marks-its-first-anniversary

>>64243397
>Poles will go to war!
>Poles are terrified of dying in a trench

>>64243395
man, those numbers are low. that's a max armed forces of, what, 150 million?

>Zig genuinely shocked that human beings prefer not to die
Given how quickly a mobik will off himself once even lightly injured, this doesn't even surprise me at all.

>>64243395
>a picture
lmao what's the metodology? where's the other studies?

>>64243407
Over or under the age of 65?

>>64243403
Not surprised the people who dragged Mussolini through the street hate fighting for their country the most.

>>64243395
>>64243403
Boy, I wonder if there's something about how that question is worded that might influence the answer.
Like how it doesn't specify anything more than 'a war'. No shit countries that got burned backing Team America on the GWOT have lower answers to 'does war sound fun' than countries where people hear that and take it to mean against the real threat of three day special military operations.

>>64243403
Not him. Good luck.
https://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/7,114883,30852534,kto-wyjedzie-kto-pojdzie-na-front-najnowsze-badanie-o-potencjalnej.html

>>64243411
Methodology is the same Gallup has used since 1947...

>>64243405
who are you quoting?

COME ON YOU SONS OF BITCHES DO YOU WANT TO LIVE FOREVER

>>64243403
>>64243395
>32% say yes
that's 150 million people, 75 million men, of whom about 25 would be fit for service
This means the west is already lost
never mind that russia also has 32% yes but only a third of the population

>>64243403
>border or live near russia
>higher yes ratio
lmao

>>64243370
He's willing to fight Russians and that's all I care about for now
I *do* think Ukrainians may experience great culture shock post war when they throw in with the West, and may become disillusioned with it not actually being the Soviet Union but better, but that's a far future thing as things stand now

>>64243405
I, too, do not want to die in a trench but would also be inclined to fight if Russia or someone like them wanted to give me a non-consensual citizenship.

>>64243412
thats what I said max, I'm not sure the cohort they surveyed. if it includes the elderly and people who would not physically quality, it could be as low as 50 million voluntary enlistments.

>>64243426
Western Europe has a severe case of "let the other countries handle it", and it also has the worst immigration

>>64243407
And how many of those would be trained? Finland alone trains more fighting troops per year than Germany.

>>64243426
The Baltics also skew a bit lower thanks to the sheer number of Russians the Soviet Union bused in back in the day
It's crazy, but they still overwhelmingly think Russia was right, and the better living standards where they actually live are actually some sort of CIA black psyop and not real at all unlike Mother Russia

>>64243405
I'm sorry, do you think anybody wants to die in a trench? There's a reason it's a shorthand for a miserable way to go.
Most people, even those going to war, would generally prefer to come home alive after what they're doing for the day.

>>64243427
>He
As long as its not him fighting :)
There will be no cultural shock in Ukraine, but it will be a shock for some (most) westerners who have built an imaginary Zelensky myth for themselves, but will eventually learn more. The main reason why the stayed "to fight" is that he can cover as long as possible for himself and his friends that enabled this invasion.

>>64243440
zigger mind can only comprheand going to war to die, not to defend and come back alive

>>64243441
It brings me immense joy thousands of vatniks a month like yourself die comical deaths inside Ukraine.

>>64243441
That's incredibly retarded logic but I understand coming from a Russian

>>64243441
>That oxcart never had shit in it)))

>>64243448
No worries, you are not the first one coping about me being rushit. I have no grudge.
It gives me joy knowing that, in the not-too-distant future, people like you will realize everything I said and block it out mentally so as not to be upset.

>>64242997
I truly wish NATO had the balls to go for "yeah? mine's real" and bomb a few Russian airfields.

>>64243459
>not-too-distant future
14 or so days?

>>64243459
>TWO MORE WEEKS AND ALL WILL KNOW ASS IS THE ASS
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>64243407
Remove senior citizens, remove children, remove women and suddenly you aren't looking at that many people.

>>64243459
I'm tired of coy Russian ass-in-the-ass metaphors, just say what you mean

>>64243468
Several years at least.

>>64243403
>>64243401
>>64243395
Polls include women.
>throw out the 50% of the respondents that don't matter.
EU as a whole is now 60% in favor.
Even the notoriously pacifist and neutral Irish are now ~76% in favor

>>64243418
>>64243425
>~4m of Poles declares that they would straight up volunteer for army
I don't think that's the own you think it is.

>>64243472
>the OG mobik suicide pit
Man I haven't seen that one in a while

>>64243457
>there was never an oxcart at all

>>64242483
Just like the 637th of russias red lines?

>>64243459
>I-I'm not Russian
Fren, you literally said that after the war, everyone will know everything

>>64243478
Yes he bungled the start of the war
And Russian riot cops still got roasted on that bridge after they thought Ukraine wouldn't fight
Anyone got any pics of the aftermath?

>>64243475
The language is literally not capable of doing that. For hundreds of years if you said something like "Tsar/General Secretary/President bad" it's off to Siberia with you, so they have to use metaphor to describe concepts in case somebody is listening and over time that just bled into ALL Russian language in the form of metaphors, idioms, phrases, etc.
You might as well be asking a cat to describe quantum mechanics to you in Japanese.

>>64243489
When you point it out, it does sound really dumb indeed. But this isn’t the place to discuss it, and it doesn’t make much sense anyway.
>>64243493
Its good that you dont know any Ukrainian. Language barrier will help to save zelensky face for a longer period of time.
However, if you actually want to learn something and not just shitpost, just watch this pro-Ukrainian british journalist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVOC9wJLiUg

I would like to add a timestamp with specific question, but cant find it right now.

>>64243483
hell, the moment reqirements get lowered i'm enlisting
t.

>>64243472
>>64243484
Yeah, there was a whole post going through videos of the history of the pit and how the bodies kept piling up but were never removed.

>>64243510
>wow the president allowed public protests and backed down what an incarnation of Satan!
It wasn't a good look but we don't need him to be perfect, just better than Putin and cronies

Jesus Christ what a shitshow of a thread, it was peaceful here for about twelve hours until the shills got their orders

>it does sound really dumb indeed. But this isn’t the place to discuss it, and it doesn’t make much sense anyway.
>I said something completely retarded and got called out but this is not the place to discuss it even though I started the discussion)))

>>64242754
>added them to [their] constitution
Just like Kherson, which they have 0 prospects of ever getting.

Found it, the perfect example of the situation we are in. Especially the laughter.
https://youtu.be/sVOC9wJLiUg?si=M7eWdhGf_hfsRx80&t=1717
Better this for full context.
https://youtu.be/sVOC9wJLiUg?si=T6ctBedYLXwoVrkv&t=1662

Why not learn to write comprehensibly instead of saying the ass is in the ass and spamming videos
Yes yes I know what >>64243497 said

>>64243521
>merely a missstep)))
Better not try to Google what happened to the detectives who uncovered the golden toilets of his companions, which initially led to the destruction of the Bureau. They had to back down due to EU pressure, but the imprisonment continues.
>>64243540
>1h video is too hard for a shitposter
I did not expect much anyway. And this is exact reason why I didnt want to answer to your psots, because this thread now will be nuked.

>>64243535
>Zelensky isn't a perfect goody two shoes hero
>checkmate wectoids!
So? I'm not really sure what your point is here.

Found it, the perfect example of the situation we are in. Especially the laughter.

>>64243545
Yeah the domestic political games of Ukraine are pretty retarded but so what, Russians don't understand where the line is drawn
Anything is better than the pigsty that is Russia

>I demand proofs and answers
>And this is exact reason why I didnt want to answer

>>64243547
Eternal flight...

>>64243445
You know that's an interesting point. Reality of various historical conflicts aside, in the west we tend to think of war as something you do to either protect yourself or to free those that have been the victims of it already, and anything else has to be dressed up in those terms to be able to get anywhere. We generally agree in the modern age that empire, expansion and conquest are no longer acceptable reasons and in fact, are the things we might have to go to war to protect others from. So talking about if people 'want' to die in a trench is kind of irrelevant to begin with, because what you're trying to do is give someone a reason good enough to overcome that self-preservation instinct. We venerate those that overcome that desire in the name of something greater, at least in theory.

So how the fuck does a koolaid-drinking Russian even conceptualise this war at this point? Assuming both knowledge of how dire the on-the-ground situation is and how batshit the justifications are, which is often the case for shills on western sites.
If you see someone saying they'd rather your country didn't bomb quite so many of their hospitals and schools and your response is 'haha urkropigs' or whatever the fuck, surely you can't hold a justification in your head that involves being the moral actor in any sense we'd understand it.

>>64243362
>i don't want to die in a fucking trench
the cruel irony is that the best way to avoid dying in a trench would be for the eastern euro countries to collectively push russia's shit in swiftly and decisively. which everyone is too afraid to try. so we get picked off one by one. in long, drawn out attritional conflicts where we die in a trench.

>>64243546
It's quite a funny line coming from russhits innit, almost like they've never heard of some of the more famous wartime leaders

>>64243553
Well, yes? Your post doesn’t change what I wrote.
But also
>Anything is better than zelensky (entire team).
We would have being in better a position if we had dog Patron as out president in 2022.

>>64243572
Didn't I tell you to stop writing gibberish

>>64243567
Or hell, even Stalin, but Stalin is perfect and beyond criticism now, and besides they respect him because he strong and put the dick in the ass and not the other way or something

>>64243565
their only justification is that they're russian, everyone is out to get them and that they need to kill everyone "who threatens russia" and then drag survivors down to their level of povery and squalor. that's why everybody who was under their sphere of influence hates them, and is opposing with all their might getting dragged to the wonders of "ruski mir"

>>64242919
>shells
you need big, obvious and hard to transport artillery systems to fire shells. what we need are low-profile, easy to conceal, easy to transport systems with high hit rates. so missiles and drones. investing in shells we won't be able to use in a hot war would be a waste, we need weapons systems that can realistically be employed under the actual battlefield conditions we're going to face
>>64242942
cucking out works until it doesn't. no politician is going to make any single event a hill to die on if they can help it. for all their battlefield failures the russians have been consistently able to exploit western political weakness in avoiding consequences for their actions or any kind of decisive response.

realistically if 2022 triggered a NATO no-fly zone the war would be over by now, Ukraine would be back at '91 borders and russia would've completely cucked out, their nooks and red lines only exist in the heads of terminally female-brained western politicians.

>>64242964
according to your own propaganda, the russia has been under the threat of NATO invasion for 70 years now. I guess you're also living in a territory.

I see the firehose of falsehood is in full action already.
Thread about Russian drones deliberately targeting Poland is suddenly and stubbornly derailed with Zelensky's corruption accusations.

>>64243565
>So how the fuck does a koolaid-drinking Russian even conceptualise this war at this point?
The average Russian thinks every Westerner has someone from the CIA pointing a gun at them and telling them to write pro-Western propaganda and Russia hate
It's so divorced from reality I don't even know how they reconcile it with what they see with their own eyes if they go abroad

>4 drones out of 19 we're shot down
>f16&35 were used

It's not looking good natobrehs.
What will happen if they send 190?

>>64243606
Did you expect anything less?
Honestly I'd like to hear some more about the Saab AWACS that was in the air, it's been getting some use this year (other being during the India Pakistan thing)

>>64243606
I'm still fucking reeling from anon's perfect prediction of the timing of it from two threads over des u

>>64243518
U WoT mate? They are taking anyone as long as they have all limbs.

>>64243305
Well, at least one civillian building was destroyed by the drone or it's debries. That wouldn't have happened if the drone didn't violate airspace.
Looks like attack to me.

>>64243609
they think so because they know the FSB is watching them. so why wouldn't the CIA in the west do the same.
ditto with actually seeing the West, russia spends a lot of money on making Moscow, Saint-Pietersburg ect. look nice, so why isn't the West spending money just to make their cities look nice? also brown people, whom our media says are our global BRICS friends, but if they live in the West that shows how weak they really are

>>64243624
These things have been worked out to a fine science
>instant shill flood
Did something evil, trying to get ahead of it
Examples: Bombing of Kramatorsk railway station, children's cancer hospital, Mariupol maternity hospital, Mariupol theater
>a couple hours delay
Something unexpected happened, need to wait for instructions
Examples: this incident, Black Sea naval losses, Belgorod IL-76 shootdown, refinery strikes
>total silence for 24 hours or more
Major incident, narrative needs constructing
Examples: Moskva sinking, Kharkiv counteroffensive, Kherson liberation, Pringles adventure, Spiderweb

>>64243565
>So how the fuck does a koolaid-drinking Russian even conceptualise this war at this point?
Disciplinary rape, cum pits and many beatings

>>64243647
this needs to be made into a flowchart

>>64243624
It wasn't a big prediction, 2-3 hours ago is the time of day when the shilling starts. That has nothing to do with the current disaster, even on most quiet days you will see a handful of shill threads up when you sort by creation date at around that time
t. guy who gets up around that time and sees it almost every day

>>64243441
>vatnigger cope

Lmao, 1 million dead over 1% of Ukraine really did mindbreak you

>>64243636
even if i'm 29, have poor cardio and can't do a pull up?

>>64243565
>So how the fuck does a koolaid-drinking Russian even conceptualise this war at this point?
jewishukronazitrannyhomohatobiolabwhat were we talking about again?

>>64243684
>have poor cardio and can't do a pull up
both fixable quite easily.

the problems that seriously fuck you over are shit like bad knees, back problems, neurological issues, heart disease, etc

>>64243647
Perfect.

>>64243565
>So how the fuck does a koolaid-drinking Russian even conceptualise this war at this point?
xaxxaxa fuck the hohols we will kill and rape them all. to protect the poor hohols from HATO occupation. and to protect donbas from hohol nazi shelling. and also to prevent poor hohol children from getting exposed to globohomo. btw did you see that video of us hunting down a man and his dog in kherson using FPV drones? shit slaps xaxxaxa. we hit kiev with 500 drones yesterday, hope all the hohols die in their sleep.

>>64243272
ESL-kun...

>>64243692
thyroid problem?

>>64243708
dunno about that I'm not a medic. just know from personal experience that you can vastly improve your cardio and upper body strength even in your late 20s

>>64243714
as for strength it ain't over till your 70's, and even then you can at the very least maintain a very respectable strength base, or at least delay the decay hugely.

>tfw Czech militaryfag
>increasingly nervous as the drones are getting closer

>>64243693
>>64243652
I'd also like to add that a great example of the system at work was the Mobik Cube. That started out as "Did something evil, twist the narrative" with shills posting that the cube was found in an area Ukraine had recently liberated
>look what they did! Indicator of massive ukrop casualties
Until suddenly it was geolocated to near Shebekino, Belgorod. That's when shit really kicked off and they moved to stage 2, since they got caught with their pants down. The next angle was
>is just meat from nearby poultry farm)))
Only for anons in the thread to locate said farm, do a little digging and find out it was an battery type egg farm without slaughter facilities
After a few hours it became
>is just dog food for poor starving dogs in pet shelter(((
Until the anons in the thread located the nearest dog shelter in Shebekino, which was closed, and the cube was found on a road leading away from that area.
After that the cube was quickly cleaned up by local authorities and the shills have remained pretty quiet on it ever since.

>>64243724
Now that the dust is in the ass, was it literally a mobik cube?

>>64243723
Don't worry, you can fight Slovakia first

>>64243730
The existence of the mobik dungeons earlier this year and Occam's razor suggest it was indeed full of mobiks.
Plus you could see DPR patches on the bodies.

>>64243724
how did the whole mobik cube episode conclude anyway, is there a summary? I remember dismissing it as too silly back at the time, were there actual digging threads?

European need to stop wringing their hands and start wringing Putin's neck.

>>64243746
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/58830718/#q58830937
An anon quite handily covered all the threads into a few caps, starting here

>>64243684
I have two friends who recently enlisted, both are overweight, one of them i bet dolarydoos against roubles wouldnt be able to do even one pull up.
Do you have "A"? You can always try, ive heard that "16" aint that bad, you can learn alot and quit anytime before oath.

Remains of AIM120-C-7 used to down one of the drones.

>>64243723
The Russians are being faggots, weighing NATO responses and poking the alliance with a bunch of "misaimed" decoys.

>>64243740
>mobik dungeons
.... do tell

>>64243817
Mobiks that refuse to go on assaults are locked naked in small enclosed (usually underground) spaces. There have been a number of webms.

>>64243822
amazing, what the fuck

hmm

>>64242324 (OP)
I guess now thete opens the posibility of Poland to enter in Konigsberg.

>>64243836
Sometimes they are also forced to fight to death in these dungeons too.

>>64243822
>>64243836
Sometimes they are forced to fight each other to the death to get out again.

>>64243881
>>64243882
>IRL CoD Warzone Gulag
Incredible

>>64243881
>>64243882
Snuffmind

>>64243777
i have A

>drones instantly swarmed by dozens of NATO aircraft
Of there is one good thing that came out of this it's proof that NATO organisation is effective at countering sudden threats in its airspace

>>64243915
Then you should be fine.
Im thinking of joining myself next year, have to finish building my house first.

>>64243927
>shot down 4 out of 19
That's pussia-tier AD.

4 of 19 downed is a more realistic number than the ukrainian air-defense propaganda

>>64243937
already confirmed 9, still looking for more. eat shit zigger faggot

>>64243547
Gorkamorka was fun

>>64243846
Are we sure that's not from missiles used to shoot down the drones? Like in >>64243778 (also RIP that guy's tomatoes; I'm still waiting on mine to get around to ripening)

>>64243959
Almost certainly.

>>64243236
>implying tanks matter
Just 500 SCALPShadow on the right infrastructures would send Russia back to the stone edge, they can't do shit against any of them, you wouldn't even see any light from the ISS. North Korea would appear more developed in comparison. From there you just wait 1 week until starvation and riots start.
Zero tank needed.

>>64243778
won z pomidorów!

>>64242821
>Bow tie on the BMP-3
Ngl that was pretty cute

>>64243302
I wonder what Tom would think of the current timeline

>>64242593
if so, why wouldn't Poland just Pearl Harbor it to force a real NATO response? it's not like a few drones could cause serious damage, while the pressure on NATO leaders including Trump to crush Russia would be intense if an undeniably deliberate strike on a NATO ally occured.

shooting them down gives Russia plausible deniability, they can say it was an accident.

>>64243609
>It's so divorced from reality I don't even know how they reconcile it with what they see with their own eyes if they go abroad
Sometimes they can't.

>>64243567
>filename
tell me more, I'm curious. Are they cucked out like chink and their firewall?

>>64243416
Poland was pretty involved in the GWOT.

Funnily enough I've talked to some Polish officers about their service in Iraq and whether they regretted Poland's involvement and their stance was that regardless of political or ethical matters, actually having boots on the ground and getting experience in a real war scenario while coordinating with allies was invaluable in itself.

>>64242739
>ESTONIA IS NEXT
why is it always us?
scatvia is far shittier and easier to deal with

>>64244094
Fair point, I mean more that when you ask a Pole right now 'would you fight for Poland' their first thought is going to be in a defensive war against Russia trying their luck. If you ask a Brit right now they'll think 'oh fuck not another forever war in the sandpit'.

And yeah, even if it's a regrettable political mess there's real value in testing a force and coordinating with allies in the real world. I don't think Australia shipped forces so far past the ADF's comfortable logistics capabilities that they literally had to pay the USAF to help support their deployment in Afghanistan because it was really the closest place that NATO and friends could find some commando regiments.
Japan even got in on that, the JSDF found a loophole to have some unarmed engineers over there escorted by other countries for much the same reasons.

>>64243959
fucking same, fuck this gay summer
for some reason zuccinis went fucking nuclear though, no idea why those specifically

>>64244114
Russia can theoretically invade you from two different fronts and you have the highest GDP per capita among post-Soviet countries, and ziggers are extremely envious
>easier to deal with
Dude, all of your countries have as many people as a single neighborhood in a major European city, even if they got Latvia first it'll be your turn next anyway. If you don't work together, you're doomed

>>64244268
its far easier to go trough scatvia first than estonia

>>64243403
To be fair, it's a very vague question to ask when there is no perceived immediate threat. Having Russia on your direct border is different than having to leave your home to fight somewhere else.

That being said, you'd be surprised how people change their willingness to fight once it's their cities, their homes, their families being bombed.

>>64243979
>Just 500 SCALPShadow
UK doesn't have enough for that

>>64242476
Response will probably be to crash a small hobby RC plane in the middle of Red Square and deploy a little flag with "BOOM" written on it. For the bantz

>>64243846
>missile of unidentified origin
Sounds like a Ukie AD missile or they'd be much louder about it.

>>64244682
Or part of one of their interceptors that they haven't ID'd yet. We've already got photos of a chunk of AIM-120, aided by it literally saying AIM-120 on it. Could be another chunk of one less helpfully labelled.

>>64244723
>Could be another chunk of one less helpfully labelled
Depending on the timing of that post, it could actually be the AIM120 they're talking about and the ID hadn't been made yet.

>>64243263
WOŁYN KURWAA

>>64242324 (OP)
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-poland-shoots-down-russian-drones/

>NATO hohol escalation

>>64244764
>vlaaddiiii staaaahhhpp

>>64243609
I mean, I do have someone from the CIA pointing a gun at me and telling me to write pro-Western/anti-Russian posts on social media, but I have very specific and niche tastes.

>>64245156
Shit, they get that for free over there? Maybe Russia really is superior.

>>64245156
Based special CIA female investigator fetishist

>>64245231
if CIA gets me a regular tiddyfuck sessions with Hitomi, I will post pro-western comments daily and in great volume.

>>64244764
Why does he post like a city skylines npc

>>64243684
I'm in worse shape than you, and I'm too old to get drafted, and I've been wondering about this. Because obviously, I wouldn't try to fight to defend my country because I would just die and probably get other people killed too. But you can bet your ass I would learn how to repair tanks, or refuel fighter planes, or any of the other shit my grandfather did in WWII. He never shot anyone either, but he absolutely helped other people do it. So for that survey about what percentage of people would fight, are the support guys included, or is it only frontline soldiers?

>>64245243
Understandable if they would be offering that there is very little I wouldn't do.
Maybe assassinating heads of state, primarily because I wouldn't be able to do so without getting caught and loosing access to those sessions.

>>64243565
pic very much related

>>64245324
>Why does he post like a city skylines npc
Because he's an NPC.

Or at least his persona is.
There's no true "me" with a narcissist, they reinvent themselves constantly and have no attachment to their previous selves, actions or words and no core identity.
Not in a Buddhist way, in a "lol, that was five minutes ago, why are you hung up on the past? lol"-way.

>>64243730
You could literally see puccian uniforms if you looked closely. They didn't even bother to strip them.

I swear to God, I want to fucking sleep, and Jets were goddamn loud. on the top of that they are probably using 1 mil missiles to shoot down this little shits that are wired with VHS cables.

>>64243937
>Stupid wectoids can't shoot down our drones if they crash before the aircraft arrive! Xaxaxa mighty bear of win again!

>>64246091
Time to send Poland some APKWS for drone slapping

>>64243006
>a mógł zabić

>>64242784
>China bails the absolute FUCK out bc white people trade good and getting into a war over your shit stain desires is stupid
Might just try invading Taiwan for shits n giggles while everyone else is doing their thing