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Anonymous No.64244461 >>64244918 >>64244941 >>64245717 >>64250287 >>64250540 >>64253260 >>64253474 >>64253606 >>64253635 >>64254315 >>64260807 >>64262228
Will we ever get a working heart attack gun and not just an unused prototype?
Anonymous No.64244472 >>64244487
yeah
Anonymous No.64244487
>>64244472
When?
Anonymous No.64244656 >>64244666
how do you keep it frozen tho
Anonymous No.64244666 >>64254263
>>64244656
It was never frozen. It's a methylcellulose gel.
Shellfish toxin also does not cause heart attacks.
Anonymous No.64244739
Firing even 9mm targeting heart will count as an attack.
Anonymous No.64244871 >>64260766
>fake gun
Meanwhile the real discrete one-shot killer
Anonymous No.64244918 >>64244941
>>64244461 (OP)
>Will we ever get a working heart attack gun and not just an unused prototype?
>unused prototype
>Unused
Sure thing Mr CIA.
Anonymous No.64244941 >>64244961 >>64244963 >>64244972 >>64257475 >>64259936 >>64260408
>>64244918
>>64244461 (OP)
why not just fill a hollowpoint with fentanyl?
Anonymous No.64244961 >>64249869
>>64244941
They had that extra billion in the last month of the financial year, and budgets are 'use it or lose it' . . . .
Anonymous No.64244963 >>64245012
>>64244941
Because the point of this thing is that you can make someone die of apparent natural causes, with no easily detectable signs of assassination. It isn't hard to figure out that foul play is afoot if the victim has a fucking gunshot wound.
Anonymous No.64244972 >>64245021
>>64244941
Fentanyl isn't kryptonite for humans, even embedding it inside someone won't be a very reliable method of killing them. But you can make hydrogen cyanide at home.
Anonymous No.64245012
>>64244963
The point of the fent bullet it to make it seem like someone took fent then shot themselves.
Anonymous No.64245021 >>64245459 >>64253650
>>64244972
You need 0.1-0.5 gr of cianide compared to 20 micrograms of carfentanyl.
Anonymous No.64245459 >>64245472 >>64245482
>>64245021
>cianide
ESL
Anonymous No.64245472 >>64245481 >>64257446
>>64245459
>dyslexia is ESL
Anonymous No.64245481 >>64245491
>>64245472
I don't like to read things written by either.
Anonymous No.64245482
>>64245459
>CIAnide
Moran
Anonymous No.64245491
>>64245481
Close your eyes nigga.
Anonymous No.64245717 >>64248223
>>64244461 (OP)
why do you keep spamming this? Rhetorical question.
Anonymous No.64248223
>>64245717
You don't know what spam means, retard.
Anonymous No.64249869 >>64253655
>stage a suicide
>perhaps a robbery gone wrong
>maybe stage a drunk hit and run
>OR
>use an extremely oddball weapon which will be beyond conspicuous if the coroner does a thorough job
>gee, wonder what this very distinct puncture wound is

The HNNNGGGG pistol was always 50% schizo fantasy, 50% red herring to distract you from real and important shit. There are so many other ways to rub someone out with some plausible deniability that the exotic approach of this concept is completely unnecessary.
They literally do it all the time.

>>64244961
They definitely throw shit at the wall to see what sticks, that was going on even in the OSS days. I would not be surprised if this was something they actually got funded and tried to make happen, but then found the weapon's concept at odds with physics and/or practical application, thus they were fine with throwing it out as a red herring, it wasn't gonna be useful for anything else anyway.
Anonymous No.64250287 >>64250428 >>64250540
>>64244461 (OP)
They don't need guns anymore, they just use 5G towers to locate your heart with wifi imaging and blast it from multiple angles with millimeter wave radiation, creating a sort of gamma knife except it makes the electromagnetic potential of your heart go bananas and stop
Anonymous No.64250428
>>64250287
Wouldn't it be funny if somebody believed this?
Anonymous No.64250540 >>64250965 >>64253124
>>64244461 (OP)
Was this before after the ACME-tier Castro assassination plots hatched by Sidney Gottlieb?
>>64250287
You would be very, very surprised at how many people believe this retarded shit. I know a Q-tard engineer I work with. My former hair stylist also lost her mind, and hilariously enough, she was ranting about this very thing before she vanished and I had find new woman that does scissor cuts.
Anonymous No.64250965 >>64251580
>>64250540
It's not like, 5G in itself, it's just the capability to triangulate targets and irradiate their hearts
Anonymous No.64251580 >>64253106
>>64250965
Do you know about the inverse square law? This is like arguing with my retarded Q tard co-worker who thinks weather radars are somehow heating the surface of hundreds of square miles of ocean dow hurricanes. Keep in mind, we both know and work with AN ACTUAL METEOROLOGIST
Anonymous No.64253106 >>64255587
>>64251580
Thats why you use directional waves from different angles, like a gamma knife. And the wave doesn't need to fry anything, it just disrupts the electric field in the heart which is significantly less energy intensive. It's already publically proven that millimeter waves can effect the electrical potential of the heart. Just weaponize that capability, maybe design the typical 5g tower to implicitly be capable of it. They called it schizophrenia that your router can spy on you until they revealed that wifi radar is actually real
Anonymous No.64253124 >>64253201 >>64257112
>>64250540
>I know a Q-tard engineer
How? The kind of things these people claim can be worked out and shown to be bullshit? I'm working on my license. Are you telling me there's some faggot out there that completed this and is still retarded enough to believe Q shit?
Anonymous No.64253201 >>64253216 >>64253217 >>64259306 >>64260792
>>64253124
It's a really intriguing phenomenon. The faggots on Usenet used to call it the Salem hypothesis.
>The Salem hypothesis is an old chestnut from talk.origins. It was proposed by a fellow named Bruce Salem who noticed that, in arguments with creationists, if the fellow on the other side claimed to have personal scientific authority, it almost always turned out to be because he had an engineering degree. The hypothesis predicted situations astonishingly wellβ€”in the bubbling ferment of talk.origins, there were always new creationists popping up, pompously declaiming that they were scientists and they knew that evolution was false, and subsequent discussion would reveal that yes, indeed, they were the proud recipient of an engineering degree.
One potential reason is that engineers aren't usually taught to think *too* critically. They follow standards and codes and base their solutions on preexisting schemes, and when a problem arises in their designs they rarely take a holistic approach. There's also the question of background, civil engineers probably come from religious/conspiracy theory-believing backgrounds more often than researchers.
And with all due respect, you don't have to be terribly smart to get most career *titles,* smarts are really only needed to be competent and even then, they're not always necessary. I'm a med student in a third world country, so I know all about that.
Anonymous No.64253216 >>64253250
>>64253201
>I'm a med student in a third world country, so I know all about that.
Were you that Omani from /his/ that talked about moving to America?
Anonymous No.64253217 >>64253248 >>64253250
>>64253201
I didn't know about that hypothesis. I know that the degree doesn't require a genius, but it is a lot of work, so it just feels like a gut punch to see someone that has some basic reasoning skills not employ those skills when it comes to deeper questions, not just figuring out if a circuit is code-compliant.
Anonymous No.64253248 >>64253290
>>64253217
>basic reasoning skills
Not needed for an engineer.
Anonymous No.64253250
>>64253216
I'm not, but I am from a Muslim country too.
>>64253217
It's always somewhat disheartening to learn that we have to share a world with stupid people, but it's worth it for all the interesting and smart folks around. Remember that your presence and work makes the world a better place for all the great people you know (and the ones you don't), that's what keeps me going. Love you, anons.
Anonymous No.64253260 >>64253317 >>64256048
>>64244461 (OP)
So here's a bit of a related question, /k/. How would you assassinate someone with plausible deniability if you were a spook? Like this isn't some targeted state-level campaign. This is you taking care of something that came up at work and you will get no help other than that which you can secure with yourself and your GTC. Yes, you still have to fill out the voucher.
Anonymous No.64253290
>>64253248
You need even less for medicine. The field is completely brain dead and populated entirely by actual p-zombies. At least engineers get to make cool tangible stuff.
Anonymous No.64253317 >>64253351
>>64253260
How much time do I have? Mugging gone wrong is a classic, put on picrel, wait for him to go somewhere secluded and proceed to plug him wit da 40 glawk.
Anonymous No.64253351
>>64253317
Eh, the murder rate in most western countries isn't that high. That would certainly be investigated, especially if you were somewhere like Japan.
Anonymous No.64253474
>>64244461 (OP)
USA Glowies can shoot a guy twice in the back of the head and rule it a suicide. Russian glowies can sprinkle funny powder on your personal belongings and vanish lickity split.
Mystery guns are unnecessary.
Anonymous No.64253489 >>64253494
People are so fascinated by intricate conspiracies and wunder weapons that
they forget that these are government entities that can do almost whatever they want and change history to fit their story. Even if they did develop such a gun, it is infinitely cheaper to just kill a guy, dump his body out of a building, and sah he committed suicide.
Anonymous No.64253494 >>64253501
>>64253489
>Even if they did develop such a gun,
Like the space pen it was developed by a private company.
The design documents and physical examples still exist.
Anonymous No.64253501 >>64253508
>>64253494
So they did develop it. Even so that still helps my point, that they almost definitely found thaf it was far easier just to say suicide than explain mass sudden heart attacks.
Anonymous No.64253507
What are the chances of this no longer being true because the islamic dumbfucks uploaded it on the internet, of which Israel has plenty and they'd definitely developed a countermeasure for morosn with SPG9s getting too close to their tanks?
Anonymous No.64253508
>>64253501
It did not cause heart attacks.
Anonymous No.64253606
>>64244461 (OP)
its not an prototype.
they have several different weapons .
Anonymous No.64253635
>>64244461 (OP)
Why do you think we don't?
Anonymous No.64253650 >>64253712
>>64245021
Pretty sure you can't inject fentanyl intramuscularly, so you would have to somehow get it in the bloodstream without destroying it like you would with a bullet.
Anonymous No.64253655
>>64249869
>They definitely throw shit at the wall to see what sticks,
IDK, when they're throwing shit at the wall we tend to get things like the 'psychic superspies' program, or the 'futures trading will definitely let us build a casino that will predict terrorist attacks!'.
Anonymous No.64253712 >>64254349
>>64253650
You can, you just need a slightly higher dose and it has a slower onset.
Anonymous No.64254263
>>64244666
Well, it causes paralysis. This typically stops the breathing muscles before it stops the heart, but the end result of not breathing is still a heart attack. As in, the heart stops.
Anonymous No.64254315
>>64244461 (OP)
>extremely deadly poison that kills on contact
>stick it in a Gun
for wat purpose???
Russia does fine hiding it inside magazine cologne samples and on the tips of umbrellas
Anonymous No.64254349
>>64253712
This guy knows his opioids.
Anonymous No.64254354
Hell it even works subcutaneously, don't even need to go that deep.
Anonymous No.64255587 >>64260962
>>64253106
Where is the cellphone getting the energy to do that?
Anonymous No.64256048
>>64253260
B&E gone wrong, mugging aren't super common but B&Es are. Some people theorize that the Brabant Killers committed some of their armed robberies as cover for targeted assassinations against political enemies and even today they were never caught and this is regarded as a conspiracies theory because "robber who got nervous" will draw less heat than "professional hitman"
Anonymous No.64257112 >>64257431
>>64253124
I was an automotive engineer for a decade.
The kind of dumb stuff my otherwise intelligent coworkers believed was mind boggling.
Anonymous No.64257431
>>64257112
Tycho Brahe believed that his court dwarf could tell the future. Just because you're good at math doesn't mean that you're infallible. Human belief is not informed by pure logic. It never was and it never will be.
Anonymous No.64257446
>>64245472
do you just ignore the red squigglies?
Anonymous No.64257475
>>64244941
It would just be easier to shoot someone with a tranq gun, if the sedative is strong enough to knock out a rhino it will kill a nigga.
Anonymous No.64259306
>>64253201
>Engineers aren't thought to think critically
This is it. Martin is unironically a very, very intelligent civil engineer, but when it comes to doing forensic stuff for me on insurance claims, I have to hold his fucking hand on code and ATSM/FM standard application that I need included to get him the insurance company to pay for stuff. He's literally just copied and pasted what I wrote for him in his engineering reports. I spent 4+ hours talking to him about Q shit on a building inspection in Chicago, and he still insisted it's real and he works for the DoD, despite me literally showing him the DoE classification levels that clearly state Q clearance has literally nothing to do with the DoD security classifications. He also think I'M THE RETARDED ONE for believing that (((UFOs))) are government projects. He unironically believe retard-tier Tucker Carlson bullshit that they are demons from another dimension. As long as he writes what I need him to in his reports and stamps that motherfucker, he can believe whatever retarded shit he wants.
Anonymous No.64259936
>>64244941
If you're going to shoot them with a holopoint, just shoot them dead. Pretty someone is going to suspect foul play when they find a guy dead from a gunshot wound that shouldn't have killed him.
Anonymous No.64260408 >>64260721 >>64260780
>>64244941
>fill hollowpoint with fent
>Go to load mag
>accidentally touch tip and OD
Anonymous No.64260721
>>64260408
>accidentally touch tip
Anonymous No.64260766
>>64244871
The Moon?
Anonymous No.64260780
>>64260408
That's a serious concern for paramedics treating Fent OD patients
Anonymous No.64260792
>>64253201
Huh, I've noticed this too from a different angle. In counter-terrorism engineers are some of the most common violent fundamentalists, out of proportion with what practical skills, political radicalism, MICE or happy/unhappy life trajectories are involved. It's like an advanced form of midwit syndrome.
Anonymous No.64260807
>>64244461 (OP)
kikes have DNA specific cancer inducing bioweapons anon they dont need 60 year old heart attack technolgoy anymore
Anonymous No.64260962
>>64255587
This is the question they ALWAYS miss when it comes to these half-baked conspiracy theories. They can never comprehend just how much energy is actually required to make shit happen.
Anonymous No.64262228 >>64262591 >>64262703
>>64244461 (OP)
>we
Ah yes, because the CIA will TOTALLY tell us if they had a working heart attack gun.
Anonymous No.64262591 >>64262703 >>64262733
>>64262228
Probably the biggest indicator that it's fake or/and a prototype which just didn't work out.
Anonymous No.64262703 >>64262733 >>64262853
>>64262591
>>64262228
They had to.
This was a congressional inquiry about black funds and chemical weaposn. Since the toxins had just been banned the CIA had to explain publically what their stockpile was going to be used for.
Anonymous No.64262733 >>64262845
>>64262591
>>64262703
It was a limited hangout. This was during the hearings after MK-Ultra, and a lot of documents were 'lost' and erased and hidden. The CIA had to give up something embarrassing but irrelevant to pretend they were cooperating.
Anonymous No.64262845
>>64262733
>limited hangout
no such thing, schizo
Anonymous No.64262853
>>64262703
>CIA will disclose secret spook shit if you tell them they have to
Are you for real?