Thread 64245016

>Tusk told parliament on Wednesday that Warsaw had requested the invocation of NATO Article 4. The clause allows a NATO member to convene a meeting of allies to consult on an issue that could threaten its security.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/poland-airspace-repeatedly-violated-drone-type-objects-amid/story?id=125422386

Get ready for the spam cause the bots are going to be nuts this week. That being said, we know the Ruskies have been violating airspace continuously, but it seemed in the past they got out of dodge before getting caught. This is a lot sloppier and makes me wonder if they are opting for more prominent fuckery or if their staff thru attrition is now performing even worse

>>64245016 (OP)
It was just too many drones for Poland not to respond. A drone here or there is accident or coincidence, but 20 of them is "contact with the enemy".

>>64245016 (OP)
It'd be funny if a false flag starts NATO vs RUSKA

>>64245016 (OP)
>We feel threatened, let’s all meet and talk about what to do
Why article 4 even exists?

>>64245016 (OP)
Got some updated info https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/poland-downs-drones-its-airspace-becoming-first-nato-member-
fire-during-ukraine-2025-09-10/

>Polish F-16 fighter jets, Dutch F-35s, Italian AWACS surveillance planes and NATO mid-air refuelling aircraft scrambled in an operation to shoot down drones entering Polish airspace from Tuesday evening until morning, officials said.

I had thought it was just Pole AF, but this is very interesting

>>64245077
>>64245078
>>64245066
Love the bot posts being the only responses in my thread lmao

>>64245092
Yeah but its still a nothingburger. Russia sent drones no matter if intentionally or not. Poland invokes art 4, NATO says some harsh words to Russia, Russia dgaf, we go back to business as usuall.

>>64245100
I'm not a bot retard

>>64245016 (OP)
>they are opting for more prominent fuckery
It's this. Many of us were predicting the lack of real consequences for previous incursions would result in more and more brazen shit played off as accidental/not possible because the Russians see it as weakness to be exploited. If nothing comes from even this then the next one will be "Oops, we didn't mean to blow up your MIC facilities. Sorry... lol."

>>64245133
You know it will happen and NATO won't do anything about it right?

what would monke do if some NATO member states called their bluff and move anti air into western Ukraine and started flying counter air missions during russian drone attacks?

>>64245144
You're a fool if you think that.

>>64245016 (OP)
>Poland leaves some captured dummy training drones lazing around.
>Shoots at some of own roofs.
>Blames Russia
>Gets rest of NATO conspirators to join in with death wish.

Why are Poles like this?

reminder

>>64245133
Well I think it is a bit more subtle. You'll notice it was a drone. This does mirror US policy (tho not in Europe). Seems like they are working to keep it "cleaner", but violating the Poles airspace slow enough to get caught is a bit silly

>>64245157
Ok then tell me what the hell do you think can NATO do if let's say a random Russian drone just destroys some important target? Russians will say it happend because of accident or most likely Ukraine EW.

>>64245173
>do you think can NATO do
holy ESL
why do foreigners have to come here and shit the board up? you guys aren't even allowed to own weapons

>>64245162
Ahh those pesky poles always trying to start world wars and bring upon us nuclear apocalypse.

>>64245016 (OP)
Why didn't they do this when ukraine missiled a girl to death?

>>64245173
Let me get this right. You think an attack on mil assets in a neutral country means that people will do nothing

>>64245184
>uh oh I have no idea how to answer so I will just deflect and hope for the best
Answer the question

>>64245188
i wanna lay hands on that guy

>>64245190
Yes and you will cope here when it will happen and NATO will give Russia benefit of the doubt

>>64245188
Very odd you have that video saved NAFOtard.

What percentage of your nation said it would fight Russia? Less than 15% most likely accordion to western poling.

>>64245173
They can trigger article 5 and all your hopes to own Ukraine or ever be a major military power end immediately. Honestly it's a miracle it didn't happen with this. You should be VERY thankful the poles are trying to avoid going straight to war. And no China won't stick their dick in that blender to save you.

4 being triggered is a big deal and a huge warning to Russia.

Pooland trying to drag NATO into a war because they’re incapable of shooting down a couple of Ali express drones is evidence we live in a clown world

>>64245205
>15%
That's more then enough for deleting Russia

>>64245184
>why do foreigners have to come here and shit the board up?
Because they're paid to?

>>64245205
>Less than 15% most likely accordion
I wouldn't have thought it was that popular an instrument in the first place

>>64245214
>Poland tries to drag NATO into war by getting targeted by Russian drones
Prime example of hivan logic right here

>>64245152
Call Trump and tell him to make them stop, depending on what dirt they have on him it could work.

>>64245234
They weren’t targeted it was a combination of ukranian spoofing and inevitable fuckups. I’m not going to shoot my neighbor because he stepped on my grass

>>64245250
>I’m not going to shoot my neighbor because he stepped on my grass
What if your neighbour is a drunk serial killer?

>>64245250
I would if my neighbor was Russian.

>>64245250
cope

>There were no drones
>Okay there were drones but we didn't target Poland
>Okay we did target Poland but we only sent decoy drones
>They are Ukranian drones
>Poland droned itself
>Actually they are our drones all along but Ukraine used EW to make them all fly to Warsaw
^ all of the narratives that have been pushed today

>>64245278
What would Russia gain from any of this?it’s why the situation screams BS like when Ukraine flung air defense missiles into Poland to try to bait them into the war a few years ago

>>64245278
You know that NATO will eat it up and just say some strong words to Russia in retaliation?

>>64245250
>I’m not going to shoot my neighbor because he stepped on my grass
That's understandable so lets just an analogy that's closer to the reality.
Lets say the neighbor 2 doors down said your next door neighbor had no right to exist and it was always his land, he then started shooting up your next door neighbors house and a few stray rounds hit your house.

>>64245219
Do it then NAFOtard.
You have not equipment or manpower enough.

>>64245293
>and a few stray rounds hit your house.
They were not stray rounds in this case, but intentionally fired at your house.

>>64245250
The neighbor didn't step on your grass, he threw rocks at a common neighbor and hit your home and car with some of his rocks causing damage. You should absolutely beat the shit out of that constantly shit stirring faggot but have the restraint of a saint.

The next time this happens, and I'm sure it will, the games are over. The bad neighbor throwing rocks is going to get the shit kicked out of him. Unfortunately for him half the neighborhood including the strongest guy in town will join in delivering the beatings.

>>64245297
Proof?

>>64245202
>NATO will give Russia benefit of the doubt
I'm not sure if you've noticed, but that benefit has been running exceedingly low for russia as they pull more and more bullshit. You can only pull "lol whoopsie I wasn't TECHNICALLY being hostile look at all this 'plausible' deniability!" so many times before someone pulls your card. Even if it doesn't escalate into full armed conflict eventually western nations will be forced to treat russia as a hostile pariah state if it keeps it up.

Wow this really got the shills upset huh
Guess I'll just have to bump the thread :D

>>64245301
This is the drunkard neighbor throwing the rocks himself and then trying to call authorities on the family he is jealous of nearby.

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>>64245016 (OP)
nothings gonna happen. this has happened before and nothing happen and it will happen again and nothing will happen

>>64245297
>>64245304
I don't think it matters if it was deliberate of not, any same person would put the mad man down like a rabid dog.

>>64245205
I’d guess 200% of the men of those nations would like to fuck Russian men because they’ll want sloppy seconds.
They’re not gay or anything as real manly men appreciate buttholes that can suck harder than the VDV can swim. That’s why they have such high aids percentage, their butthole gives blowjobs and their red star is magnetised for sea men. That’s why they call my cock the submarine
>accordion
Come on, now

>>64245313
See>>64245321 this anon gets it

>>64245301
The strongest guy in town has a humiliation fetish centered around the guy you say is shooting at houses and will do anything he’s told to do and the neighbors are mods on r/banguns and r/hrt

>>64245235
This line again? If Trump is on the Epstein list then 5 Eyes glowies have it too and can use it to make Trump do pro NATO moves.

>>64245322
The mad man is the nazi Poland regime trying to start WW3

>>64245334
Don’t worry anon the gloves have finally come off!

>>64245331
I don't think the CIA or NSA would approve telling allies about the sex crimes of US political figures.

>>64245301
>but have the restraint of a saint.
Or your neighbour is a 6 foot buff nigga with an glock 18 and you have just a knife and bunch of "friends" who promise to help you for real this time.

>>64245338
>Poland regime trying to start WW3
Oh shit, who did they invade?

>>64245294
>You have not equipment or manpower enough.
holy

>>64245213
I actually hope that happens because the reality is China can't afford to militarily back up an exhausted Russia.
It would lead to the best possible outcome - two broken nations and only the Jeets as any kind of BRICS power

>>64245338
>nazi Poland regime
Stop taking krokodil, its not good for you.

What would Russia gain from any of this?it’s why the situation screams BS like when Ukraine flung air defense missiles into Poland to try to bait them into the war a few years ago

>>64245370
What would Russia get from invading Ukraine?
Also webm. Russians can't survive without lying for more then 5 min

>>64245370
Nu-/k/ doesn't remember that happening.

>>64245287
>>64245370
>>64245384
Bot responses lol

>>64245347
Lol

>>64245370
>What would Russia gain from any of this?
What did Russia have to gain from invading Ukraine? They have lost nearly all the USSR stockpiles, their Black Sea fleet, their credibility, their economy, several former allies and have driven the largest expansion of NATO in decades.
Don't assume Russia is a rational actor.

>>64245384
Natural resources and reintegrating a Russian majority region? They get none of that from Poland

>>64245338
>nazi Poland regime trying to start WW3
The Commonwealth has awaken.

>>64245393
>Bot responses

Poland has a death wish and bumbling NATO governments will let them achieve it with false flags like this one.

>>64245316
Buddy, you might be able to gaslight /pol/ like that, but it doesn't work here. It's painfully obvious Russia started the war and either through incompetence or mistakenly perceiving the lack of real retaliation for past events as weakness has done something stupid yet again.

>>64245350
Just because your CSTO is barely worth the paper it's written on doesn't mean NATO is going to dissolve the second the alliance is called to fight you. Also, even JUST Poland joining the war at this point would be apocalyptic for Russia's ambitions.

>>64245370
Possibly hitting manufacturing facilities that are aiding Ukraine. Even if it really was totally an accident this is a huge fucking deal and still warrants triggering 5. Again, thank fuck the Poles have restraint.

>>64245370
>What would Russia gain from any of this?
OOOK OOOK AAAAH AAAAAH OOOOK OOK

>>64245370
>>64245287
Holy shit lmao, they aren't sending their best today that's for sure

>>64245347
So all of 5 Eyes is compromised by Russia now? Can we just admit that Orange man is fickle?

The vatfrican seethe sustains me.

>>64245416
Russia could saturate Warsaw with drones and all NATO would do is issue a stern warning. The alliance is shot ever since Vladimir Trumpsky shattered everyone’s faith in it

>>64245416
I didn't realise Russia made the CIA carry out a color revolution in Ukraine!

>>64245436
To be fair probably a third of the US govt are fifth columnists so

>>64245445
America sounds weak then

>>64245016 (OP)
This is exactly what russia wanted lol
To show that nothing ever happens if you bomb poland a little

>>64245338
>The mad man is the nazi Poland regime trying to start WW3
There it is. You ziggers must understand how retarded you sound when you try to blame starting wars on anyone else.

>>64245259
Why didn't they declare war on ukraine when they killed a polish farmer with their missile then?

>>64245427
I'm saying why the fuck would the US tell the rest of 5 eyes who is on the Epstein list? That gives foreign governments leverage against the US and what does the US get out of it?
Trump is extremely fickle in his words but his actions have been consistantly to do as much as possible for Putin while maintaining NATO as an alliance.

>>64245338
kys

>>64245457
Careful brother Russia can only handle so many stern warnings before them mentally break and throw away all their gains in the war

>>64245398
>Don't assume Russia is a rational actor.
It's never wise to underestimate your enemies. The strategic advantage they gained from taking the Sea of Azov (and Crimea) is immense. That was a major loss to the west. Only time will tell how significant this may become for Russia, but on paper this is a huge victory.

>>64245474
AI image

>>64245483
>The strategic advantage they gained from taking the Sea of Azov (and Crimea) is immense
And it cost them Lake NATO.

>>64245483
What is the strategic advantage of having acess to black sea?

>>64245466
How does Russia know but not 5 Eyes when Epstein was a western glowie operation? Isnt it exhausting to make up this conspiracy instead of saying Trump changes his mind daily?

>>64245484
>AI image

>>64245320
Lol God bless cats like you

>>64245479
Nah they can throw 10 inert drones every day and see how poles waste tons of money to deal with them.

>>64245493
There’s only one country on there that would actually do anything to help the Baltics and right now they’re busy screaming and crying about WW3 over a couple of drones soooo

>>64245498
I'm not saying "Putin has the Epstien files" but Putin has some leverage on Trump as proven by Trumps actions.
It could be something as stupid and corrupt as Russia buying a fuckload of Trump crypto.
It also makes no fucking sense at all for 5 eyes to know as the whole Epstien case was a US domestic case and the point of intel sharing is to share info on enemies got give allies leverage against you.

>>64245517
>there is only one major threat and they lust for Russian blood
Good point, this is actually great for Russia.

>>64245338
>nazi Poland
more sloppy than your dads pull out game.

If NATO asked Belarus to open their airspace for air patrols, would Luka say no?

>>64245549
Yes because Luka is a Putin puppet

>>64245517
Oh trust me, we are down to fuck up St petersburg and whatever shitholes are in Kaliningrad, it will be Leningrad siege 2.0
t. Swede with finn parents

>>64245549
What does it matter what Luka says? Belarus is Russia in all but name.

>>64245530
I don’t think he actually has anything on Trump, not even really anything financially. Trump is just a retarded pushover who will suck off men he views as “strong”. Zelenskyy didn’t realize he was dealing with an utter spazz at his first white house meeting and proceeded to get yelled at by a dude with guyliner on in his first White House visit. Second one Zelenskyy put on some sharp black suit black undershirt and demanded shit instead of asking for it and suddenly Trump likes him again.

>>64245188
Would

>>64245555
The suit thing pissed me off more than it should because any semi-competent brief would have told the US deligation Zelenskyy hasn't worn a suit since the war started.
I get it's a pretty hollow popularist move but hollow popularist moves are sometimes required of wartime leaders to keep the double digit IQ half of the population happy.

>>64245338
Only a russian could get this uppity over poland

>>64245574
Or Indian.

>>64245574
I too would be annoyed with a bunch of welfare babies that bastardized my language and culture.

imagine being a Russian nationalist and waking up every day in agony knowing your retarded leader has tried to kill himself again

Part of me wonders how this would have played out if this whole thing happened exactly a week later, on the 17th.
You know, the anniversary of the Soviets invading Poland in 1939

>>64245592
Imagine being a poor American and waking up thinking about how on earth you’ll be able to scrape together the funds for your daughter’s life saving sex change operation.

Hey Guys OP here. I knew it was gonna be a shit thread, but can we discuss thoughts on how you'd run opps to avoid a similar situation?

>>64245551
Other way around.

>>64245613
Stop supplying Ukraine. Kinda easy

>>64245592
They have spent decades being told they are poor so the military can be strong, now they have seen the military isn't strong the have fully detached from reality.

>>64245613
If it was up to me I would have a NATO enforced no-fly-zone over Ukraine and dare Russia to find out.
As for what could actually be agreed upon by the current breed of spineless "leaders" I think Poland will get some more NATO SAMs deployed to their border.

>>64245615
>I must spread my legs so I don't dwarf the boss

>>64245615
>Spreading his legs wide so that he doesn't appear gigantic next to Putin's 160 cm height
The balls on everyone involved in taking this photo. I couldn't keep my laughter in that situation.

>>64245077
Putin has the Epstein files on Trump.
Ain't happening.

>>64245615
>Luka is actually the most powerful man in the world
>He engineered the war to get Russia out of his way and tie up Ukraine
>He has been secretly accruing resources (potatoes and vodka) since prior to the start of the war
Belarus will be the other pole of the multipolar world.

>>64245606
>Imagine being a poor American and waking up thinking about how on earth you’ll be able to scrape together the funds for your daughter’s life saving sex change operation.

>>64245606
Imagine being a r*ssian
I thank my Christian judeo god each and every morning I don’t wake as an inbred mongoloid. Your life as a pathetic caricature of a peasant must be tiring. I have livestock with a higher quality of life than you. I think I’ll rawdog my wife and ponder your sad existence afterwards pidor.

>>64245652
>Luka puts a Prigo and rushes Moscow
>doesn't leave his family in Russia like a retard
>doesn't back down thinking treason will be forgiven

>"The Polish side once again failed to present evidence of the Russian origin of the objects that entered Polish airspace (and there is no reason to expect that it will), and completely groundlessly accused Russia of provocative actions," the Russian embassy told Newsweek in a statement.

>Belarus, one of Russia's closest allies, which borders Ukraine and Poland, said drones fired by both sides in the conflict had been impacted by "electronic warfare assets" that caused them to go astray from their intended paths.
>It also said Belarus had destroyed wayward drones over its territory.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-poland-drones-nato-ukraine-war-2127718

we are a couple of posts away from to everyone basedjaking the thread
jannies, clena it up

>>64245664
That fat fuck isn't capable of that sort of thought process. Not to mention Belarus has its own problems at the moment, their potato harvest failed lmao

>>64245370
kek very 23rd of Feb. 2022 post

>>64245665
See pics >>64244489 & >>64245071

>>64245632
NATO will cuck out on any response further reinforcing the former eastern block’s independence is just an unnatural post Cold War hallucination. Ethno-nationalism in Europe (why do we have like 10 different -akias) is what caused general intolerance towards migrant populations. People in the US won’t make new countries based off of their accents. Why the hell did Europe do that?

>>64245668
It's an offtopic thread. Jannies cleaning it up would mean flagging it for deletion.

Man, it seems like they deployed the entire lakhta center in here.

What should Poland do as a response?
>fly regular CAP over Ukraine to do early interception
>place troops, AD and fighters in Ukraine itself
>shoot their own drones at Russia
>seize Kaliningrad

>>64245517
Even Belarus was stopping Russian drones m8

>>64245615
SOON

>>64245679
>geopol in relation to an active war isn't /k/
I fucking hate all the newfag scum that think all politics is /pol/ only and /k/ couldn't possible discuss gun laws or military alliances.

>>64245712
>Discussions about (..) current events (..) belong on >>>/pol/