Thread 64283089

What's stopping a pair of bored/accelerationist launch officers from stealing the codes and keys out of the cabinet and firing a missile off all by themselves?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YchEuqYjMi8

the armed guards

>>64283089 (OP)
Even if the entire crew of a nuclear silo or submarine went rogue for a year, they wouldn't be able to bypass the PAL to arm the warhead without an EAM. Only in the 40s-50s would localised action be possible before governments realised how insane that situation was.

To fire a nuke you need two people pulling the trigger. They are not allowed to know each other and there are two different crews near their silo but still kilometers away, that can cancel their launch order.

>>64283261

Could you still fire the missile without arming the warhead (seems stupid I know, but if you wanted to start a nuclear war, the Russians and Chinese would still detect that unannounced launch and likely assume it was the opening salvo of a first strike and fire everything they have)?

>>64283313
>They are not allowed to know each other
How does the army prevent this? After a few years in, the military becomes like a small town

>>64283337
>Could you still fire the missile without arming the warhead
Yes, and the real threat is a rogue crew provoking a nuclear response with those inert missiles

>>64283313
The key turners cannot arm the warhead without an EAM

>>64283424

*cocks gun* ANON, YOU WILL TURN YOUR KEY.

>>64283471
*vaginas gun* it seems we're evenly matched

>>64283484
*futas gun* your move, creep.

>>64283471
>>64283484
>>64283494
TURN. YOUR. KEY

>>64283089 (OP)
according to the documentary Crimson Tide it ony takes two people, the catain and XO to authorize the launch of the submarine's missiles.

Psychological question. Does it ever go through their mind that, if shit did hit the fan and they did launch, they are basically responsible for the death of no less than 250-400 million humans?

>>64283089 (OP)
me

>>64284756
Not my problem

>>64284789
This guy right here

>>64284756
ICBMs are essentially just very long range artillery and the artilleryman sees the worlds population in terms of two very distinct groups
Artillerymen and targets

People, whenever you see a thread like this, stop and think who you are interacting with, and why that person asks a question like this.

Why? Because there is a world wide right wing movement that wants to tear down western civilization and replace it with a right wing dictatorship.
It's only relatively few people, but they are very active in their exchange of information, and they are getting gradually and continuously more professional.
The christchurch attack and similar attacks are a direct result of this kind of exchange. /pol/ is one of these echo chambers, so the relevant posters are definitvely also here.
(There are other terrorist groups, but those do not frequent 4chan to the same extend.)

So whenever a thread like this here shows up, ask yourself: Are you helping in brainstorming for a literal terrorist attack?
Because make no mistake: The bomb is not going to go off in some brown people country, it will go off in yours. And make no mistake: According to those right wingers committing genocide against whites is acceptable, if it's in the name of preventing white genocide.

>>64284756
Psychological screening paired with constant drills mitigates the chance of a crisis of conscience.

>>64284665
There is a difference between launching a missile and arming a warhead

>>64283089 (OP)
its illegal

>>64284821
>muh right wing
the group you're talking about literally invented the terms "left" & "right"
they're not right, nor are they even left - they're a monster that separates people into a fractured collection of movements impeding eachother every step of the way

in the very same way you ask how these idiots to "think", you should be thinking yourself

>>64284837
oh we're good then

>>64284845
I don't care about the semantics, and I don't feel too bad for putting all of them in one pot, because at the end of the day they will throw a pipe bomb at the office I'm working in, and when that happens I don't care if they do it because Q told them to, if it's to own the libs, or if it's because they think that vaccines are totally evil.
They're all fantasizing about the downfall of western civilization, after which of course their retarded ideology emerges victoriously, which is why their diverse set of mental illness is working together right now.

>>64284862
>They're all fantasizing about the downfall of western civilization
yes, they ALL are

if you're truly going to be paranoid, you're going to need to accept that fact that everyone kills a traitor before an enemy
think of how many things that you don't agree with among your kin, now realize that the moment everything goes to shit, they're going to remember every single one of those infractions, no matter how little of offense they are
you'll never be enough for "them", no matter who you are

>>64284862
>Its the guy who hates autists
You do really deserve that though

>>64284821
>And make no mistake: According to those right wingers committing genocide against whites is acceptable, if it's in the name of preventing white genocide.

If you read this book, it's as much a self-genocide as it is a genocide directed at Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians.

>90% of victims of the Day of the Rope are Whites executed for being "race traitors" who don't even receive the benefit of show trials to give the murders some minimal air of legitimacy, they're just executed on the spot with their guilt entirely determined by accusations
>Organization intentionally provokes a nuclear exchange between NATO and the Warsaw Pact that is guaranteed to result in the mass death of mostly white people
>Whites who survived the nuclear exchanges and show-up at Organization-controlled territory are put through some macabre parody of the section process you would have found at a concentration camp like Auschwitz where only children and young women are guaranteed entry and white men are literally forced to murder non-whites to gain admission, the elderly and those whites deemed soft are left to die of starvation
>Southern Europeans (mainly Italians) are just straight-up exterminated for not being white enough

>>64284833
>There is a difference between launching a missile and arming a warhead
Not to the recpients radar - they will launch in response and the war is going.

>>64283261
The code was literally 000000000 until the mid 2000s.

>>64285105
chuds
not even once

>>64283344
There should be no talking allowed. I'm tired of paying these guys to stand around and talk.

>>64285599
>000000000
It was then upgraded to the highly cryptographic 123456789

>>64283089 (OP)
You're seeing a dramatization of a missile launch, giving the impression that it's just a couple keystrokes away on a (faulty) computer. This is not the case at all; a machine like that needs the consent of many operators, commanders, and technicians in order for a successful launch to happen. You'd need to compromise a lot of people, which is something I'm sure there exist counterprocedures for.
You could argue that even a legitimate order to launch would face such problems. I don't know how one would actually convince a crew to follow through on these orders, but fortunately it's not a situation we've had to face... yet.

>>64284862
That’s what happens when Americans let the English language internet turn into a sounding board of hostile Russian rhetoric. Russia has launched an all out information confrontation with the west, under the ruse of “1A free speech”, where failed western males are targeted with myriad of narratives designed to incite them to violence. Until America actually starts listening to allies and taking common sense steps to contain threat narratives, this kind of thing will unfortunately persist.

>>64285649
If the 6 million figure is to be believed, Hitler was responsible for the deaths of more Germans than Jews

>>64283089 (OP)
Launch officers need to be screened to actual do the job in the first place. So I don't think you're going to find the menial "I'm bored of stability" world view there.

>>64283089 (OP)
>What is a Permissive Action Link
Nukes like the W-88 have the peanut shape for a reason. Even if you could detonate some of the explosive lenses, the shape is designed to facilitate a "toothpaste squeeze" effect where you basically create two sub-critical masses in the primary squeezing into two separate spheres instead of one big peanut. That being said, it definitely appears to be a possibility. Two of the Sigma clearance levels within the known DoE classification structure specifically address "knowledge to facilitate the unauthorized detonation of a nuclear weapon". The Sum of All Fears (book, not retarded movie) is pretty great because it addresses this specific scenario.